HOT MATCH: Francisco BUSTAMANTE vs Joshua FILLER - 2019 DERBY CITY CLASSIC BIGFOOT 10-BALL CHALLENGE
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Pro pool at its finest - two men, 33 years difference, yet both a perfect match for eachother! From the 2019 DERBY CITY CLASSIC, journeyman "Django" Francisco BUSTAMANTE meets the focused intensity of the youthful Joshua FILLER on the 10' Diamond Bigfoot table playing 10-ball. Lots of green to navigate... A lot on the line in this single elimination invitational.
Hosted by Mark Wilson with Special Guest Danny Diliberto
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that guy... django... he is so spectacular. Look at him gliding around the table with his very particular walk, his NBA player hands, and his exquisite delivery of the cue. Him right there, win or lose, that is my pool idol.
yaaaa!
I see you are a man of culture as well.
He ranks as one of the 'pool gods', no doubt. :-) You could have far worse idols. I liked your comment, it was positive, funny, and true.
Lol you know
Him @😮0.33 😅
56:20 one of the most amazing shots i’ve seen in pool
why does everyone slam on the players and commentators. If you don't like it turn off the sound. Quite frankly this match was great entertainment, great shotmaking by both players. Danny Diliberto has accomplished more in his life than any of you youtube trolls. Good job Danny, Francisco and Filler for a nice match. Also miss Ken Schuman commentaries, but he was the ref here which was cool. I appreciate the great vids
"why does everyone slam on the players and commentators."
Because they have nothing better to do, and they know FAR more than a professional pool 'hall of famer', and a guy who was a pro player and the coach for the Mosconi cup, among many other things.
Most everyone on YT thinks they are genius oracles, they aren't, except on very rare occasions, like me (kidding, the 'me' part). In most cases they are so far beyond clueless that they have no way to know how clueless they are. My favorite is "I could'a made that shot". Yeah, so could half the 'good' pool players out there, but can they do it as consistently as the pros do it, often shooting 900+ in potting percentages, MINUS errors? Nope, not even remotely. Are they 'at risk', and in fact likely to run at least one decent string of outs in ANY given match? Most of them aren't likely to do that in a given month, and many of these experts have never done it, not once, in their entire lives. Some can't pocket three balls in a row.
If pros were lousy, people would go take money from them all the time. They do not, especially not these morons. There were some VERY good shots during this match, like the Boosty shot breaking the 8/whatever up on the rail. Filler had several, as well. Their overall level of play wasn't great here though, compared to their normal levels. It happens. It still puts all these know it alls, mine, and I expect yours, to shame. When you watch them play even VERY excellent amateurs it is often brutal.
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Shot @ 56:24 DAMN!!! breaking out the tied up 8 - Busti is phenomenal 👏
Absolutely love and appreciate these matches you are sharing. A nice touch of sanity. I would like to suggest a few commentator matches and old timers. Bring out a few from the 90s. Did Billy ever really shoot? LOL Thanks again.
I am continually amazed at the plethora of things that folks in these Accu-Stats videos seem to find fault about and criticize. Everything from how the commentators speak, to how bad the camera angles are. And then there are idiosyncrasies of each player. Those critiques are endless.
Listen, if one loves the game of pool then it would seem that these ‘smaller’ things would be far outweighed by the enjoyment and pleasure that watching the world’s greatest play brings. Seems like that if you love some thing or some one, then you learn over time to make allowances for those critiques knowing that the good and pleasure they bring you far outweighs those smaller things.
I’m willing to watch a little ‘magic’ on the table, and endure a little ‘nose picking’ at the same time.
I am grateful for these videos and all of the efforts that so many put into them.
Efren Reyes is my favorite player, Francisco Bustamonte is my second favorite player though.
This is how a football and a baseball fan will sound like when they become an announcer in a pool tournament 😂
I think ever since Filler's arrogant win against arguably the best player, SVB at the Mosconi cup, a lot of the players have been a little shooken up psychologically by Filler.
Josh Randolph I’m genuinely curious on your opinion, do you think Shaw treats him differently or is intimidated by him? Or embarrassed of his behavior because of that Mosconi instance?
Both of them Shaw and Filler are mentally unstable, with arrogant behaviour, loudly, they think they play soccer, the pool table is not Webley or New Camp, guys.
I would ask Pia if she is facing a girl, with gender disphoria dissorder, marring Filler, because he acts like one.
I doubt it. Any pro can beat another pro at any given time. When they play again, almost certainly SVB will win some. And there are players in the world ranked above FIller (not much, I'll grant you) in probably almost every game of pool. I know he is second in ten ball in one governing body, and third in the other. Ko Pin Ye, James Aranas, and Jason Shaw are currently rated higher in two of them (Filler is second in one, third in another, currently). In the future, who knows, he is really darned good.
@@elitxp Wow Almex, do you know what that comment makes YOU look like? It ain't good, so to speak.
The front man with glasses just missed one of the best shots in the history .. 56:22
They have a bright future ahead of them 🎱
You can see how that extra foot of table plays an important role in their game and confidence
Bustie one of my favorite players.
Just a few random thoughts that occurred to me while watching this match:
1) It's nice to see incoming and outgoing generations of greats play each other, even if neither one was 'on' his game. I already know that both of these two would spellbind if they were.
2) Will someone please put the final nail in the coffin of that (compost) criticism about a shooter missing because 'he jumped up on the shot'? Even some people who are far from professional level (like me, for instance) can tell a split second after they've 'pulled the trigger' on a shot that it's failing. So (except for new players, perhaps), the 'jump-up' is usually a RESULT of the bad shot; NOT the CAUSE of it.
3) At this point, after so many decades of low-grade camera work covering these matches, i can't help wondering how big a role that has played in the reasons why pocket billiards hasn't gained more popularity.
"the 'jump-up' is usually a RESULT of the bad shot; NOT the CAUSE of it."
If you really believe that, do a little experiment. Shoot 25 balls on a shot that you can make say 75% of the time. Do this twice, same shot each time. On one set jump up each shot. On the other set stay carefully down, and still. I think you will discover your statement to be incorrect. I know that EVERY pool coach, including professional level, that I have heard weigh in on the subject directly disagree with what you are saying here.
The other two points have merit, I think.
@@MrJdsenior Apparently, what you heard is not what i said. (Because, there is no experiment that could possibly address what i did say.) I didn't say that jumping up _couldn't_ cause a missed shot. I said it _didn't_ cause one in most of the cases when commentators (in general) said it did, because the jump-up actually occurs a fraction of a second *after* the cue ball has left the tip of the stick.
Wow. @6:52 Bustamante basically had to shoot that Z shot from the Efren-Earl Sands 12-12. It requires accurately predicting the arc just to make the hit. Great shot. And I'm guessing over the years of talking to Efren about it he's probably shot it a few more times than most people have. Granted, the obstructing ball off the 2nd rail is absent, but it's still very similar. Try it some time.
Nice camera work. Thank you!
Thank you too!
Iv never seen bustee play so bad
No jump cues should be the rule in all pro events in my opinion
I agree.
Agree also, if they want to jump, use a player cue, then it brings the difficulty level up more on par with kicking. Jumping with a jump cue for a pro is often just too easy an 'out' from a well set safety. A really well planned and executed safety deserves better than that. On amateur level tourneys, go for it.
I agree
I agree too.
Play better jam up safeties 🤷🏽♂️
Human vs machine. Heart vs mercedez benz. Art vs fundamentals. Action vs drills. Icon vs youth.
"Oh! Thats not the Busti" ...I heard a few times. Filler ist the new pool-generation. He is throwing thisPearl-girls and shame-Shanes away. Its pool in perfektion. And a nice guy too, very friendly and humerous.
You are absolutely right.
You are an idiot. He's hardly taking over pool, though he is very very good. Ko Ping Chun is rated ahead of him in WPA ten ball (this game on this video). And Jason Shaw and James Aranis are rated ahead of him in BCA ten ball. Shane is a match for him any day, and Filler would be the first to agree.
And dude, calling what Filler did in THIS match 'pool perfection' only shows how minuscule your level of understanding of the game of pool is. He played pretty poorly here, by pro standards, which he would also be the first to admit. The stats demonstrated that. Playing like he did here, if Boosty had been on, he would have gotten trounced...no question. Filler would be the first to admit that, as well. Boosty was having an as bad or worse night. Grow up and wake up.
Prime Django would have crushed Filler without any problem.Filler is good but nothing crazy,he is just lucky to take on an old out of his prime Bustamante.
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Po Pe - Are you kidding me? Filler's ranked number two in the world right now. He was ranked number one, and will be again soon! He's damn near a real life "Vincent Lauria!"
@@MaachoMaan I agree. Filler is like a young Earl Strickland. Plays fast and plays well under pressure. Makes key shots look easy. Raw talent is filler, his game will be more refined in the years to come.
Bustamante was good in times when level of players was lower.
@@MaachoMaanwhat ? Hahahahah arew tou kidding me ? Filler is feeler lol 😂 rank number 2 ? What the heck he is lucky bustamante is 80% of 99% of efren bata reyes lol
There are any reasons Bustamante is no Efren.. Joshua on the other hand would do well to learn the subtleties of Efren's play. Fora start I suggest Joshua must learn how to play 3 cushion.
Yeah Gus, Filler is certainly in need of YOUR suggestions. LOL You should get right on that. And play him a few games while you are at it, just so he knows what your suggestions are worth (as if he didn't already). And BTW, Boosty beat Efren many many times. so there's that. Maybe you should put your brain in gear before you put your keyboard in motion. Just sayin'.
Reading down through these comments is a freakin riot, yours takes almost top billing, so far. And there are pool players playing right now that will likely beat Efren's tournament records. Many already have, for certain events. Stop mythologizing Efren. Amazing pool player, probably one of the best, and well loved, but not a god, not remotely.
Danny the commentator says the cringiest stuff lol
Is it just me, or do these two commentators seem REALLY negative towards Filler and Pro- Bustamente?
It's you, I heard no such bias. I think they were just apologizing for Boosty a bit, who had a horrendous night, as all pros do occasionally. If you've watched many of his matches, he pretty much doesn't EVER play like that. And he won't the next time out, I can pretty much guarantee you. When he's really on he's capable of winning against anyone out there, again, like most top level pros.
Commentators are there to sway public perception which has a palpable relevance on the ultimate outcome of any sport. Commentators can evoke good or bad feeling of millions of people towards a certain player which has a measurable effect. You are not wrong the lisping wonder and old man river seemed to be pulling for the older player.
There was definitely bias for Bustamante from the older commentator.
So nice to watch Bustamate and not just another draw shot player.
I know he didn’t win but he made some shots others can’t even come close
looks like Django has a dose of the "Yips"
These tables are absolutely treacherous
buste made a trenendous effort to be the 3rd rack
Bustamantes stroke makes me think he thought twice about shooting every time
I really like the Rack Track visual!
We do too. Thank Patrick Jr.
@@AccuStats a potential variation could be showing wins vs who broke.
time is the second enemy of busty.. he is old enough, though can kick still some..
Set 9 what a shot djanggo hood shot 😙
nice camera !
Good job bro
Thanks
Filler's shot for position on the 9 (~1:34:40) did NOT hit the point! It clearly hit the end rail and check english did the rest! Come on!
I wonder if Francisco and joshua speak in german to each other.
I know they are both from the Philippines but buste and eferen both scratch their heads when they miss. Just something I noticed.
buste gets diappointed with his errors. just cant get over with his errors. everytime he make good shots it destroys his concentration and srarts to mis.. then a boost will go to his opponent up till the end of game
Bustamante has done something weird with his stroke ... adding another pause just after he initially follows through. Very odd.
He's always addressed the ball to the LEFT of where he actually strikes it. Don't believe me..? See for yourself:
To watch in frame by frame slow motion ... pause the video, then, use the period key to move forward a frame or comma to go back one frame at a time.
If you don't know the rules of the game, you should not be commenting about it.
That was ugly. I don't think I've seen either one of these guys play this badly before. Filler started to come around in the end, Boosty never did. He was missing EASY stuff, like his head wasn't in it or he wasn't feeling well. Obviously I mean 'this badly' from a pro measuring stick, and more specifically from their specific normal level of play. If I played this badly, I'd be in 7th heaven.
Jump cues been around for awhile you can't use them because you don't know how
Commentator Danny is just as ready for retirement as Bustmante. That was cringy to listen to.
56:22 👌
buste is uncertain ith some shots its been long he was that reason he got few champs records not like efren he always does it easy no pressure.
Wow really? Busti has handled pressure just as good as anyone in the sport ever has.
OH yeah, Efren was never under any pressure whatsoever. What strange convoluted made up world do you live in?
Excelente partida i lo mejor bien vídeo buena oluminasion o los de tales claro el mejor vídeo que visto felisitasiones
Usually I want filler to win. Not this time
Young Busty would have won
That reach is killing you Bustamante. Use.your extention!
Busta lost control of the cue ball when he shot the 3. He thought the 7 ball would stop the cue ball but he hit the 7 too thin and it went to the rail and snookered him. He should have played the cue ball to go straight to the rail and bounce back to the center of the table. He must have been tired from so much playing.
I don't think he snookered himself there. There's still room for potting like he did but just didn't make it
Danny used to be a great analyst. I repeat USED to be
Youth vs age on a slippery 5x10 deep pocket bitch of a table. Fast very fast
Yeah, and both not playing well. I'm not sure this was much of a demo. I would be more worried about pocket width than 'depth', not even sure what that means. You can see pros playing everywhere on bigfoot Diamonds playing FAR better than this. It wasn't a good night for either of them. I'm pretty sure they would have BOTH been glad when it was over. It was basically that Filler played less badly.
Porque en el tiempo 1h:28min ..cuando Bustamante parte, y cae la 10 no se le declaró ganador de esa mesa?.....
Regularmente cuando se juega 10 ball todos los tiros tienen que ser hechos a propósito incluyendo el 10 y en la partida no cuenta....en 9ball las reglas permiten que la suerte decida ya sea con el nueve o cualquier otra con tal de que le pegues a la bola adecuada en tu turno incluyendo la partida
That masse' bank on the 1, tight, thanks, good match this kid's got ..
Glad you enjoyed it
buste is a nervous pool player uncertainty makes you it to thats why he struggles in some of his games.
Ha! You don't have a clue bub. Might wanna backpeddle about stuff you obviously know nothing about.
You stand up because you know you just missed
Bustamante had the win but I think psychologically he got too excited about the prospects of winning against a hot shit player like young filler and then began overthinking his shots. That's why he gave away 3 games.
how much are they playing for?????????????????? 1er 2nd 3rd
$16,000 for 1st. $8,000 for 2nd. $4,000 for 3rd & 4th.
THANKS FOR THE INFO.............
I was thinking he is running not play pool, when i see the jacket
good criticism
After 3 or 4 years, why do they still play by the old rules?
What in the holy hell does that even mean??? Pool's been around since something like the 1600's, and the rules, and game, have changed dramatically all throughout that time. You make some industrial strength weird comments, dude. Maybe you should try to at least make them make at least some level of sense. Maybe you are computer translating from another language?
@@MrJdsenior What I mean is very simple and straight-forward.
Ask someone to read and try to explain this to you:
This match is from the 2019 Derby City Classic.
With BCA’s 2017/2018 edition of Billiards: The Official Rules and Records Book came changes to the rules of several games. Ten Ball is one of them. Ten Ball is now a call-shot game, and THE 10 BALL MUST BE THE LAST BALL ON THE TABLE. (There are other changes, too.)
From the 2017/2018 and the 2021/2022 editions, here is an excerpt from the Ten Ball rules:
“9.8 Continuing Play
If a shooter legally pockets a called/nominated ball on a shot (except a push out; see 2.4 Second Shot of the Rack - Push Out), any additional balls pocketed remain pocketed (except the ten ball; see 9.9 Spotting Balls)’and he continues at the table for the next shot. IF THE PLAYER NOMINATES AND LEGALLY AND LEGALLY POCKETS THE TEN BALL PRIOR TO THE TEN BALL BEING THE LAST REMAINING BALL, THE TEN BALL IS RE-SPOTTED AND THE SHOOTER CONTINUES. …” (Emphasis mine.)
They’re playing by the old rules in this match (and others). If they pocket the 10 while there are still other balls on the table, they win. So, I ask again: After 3 or 4 years… Oops! - My bad.) … After a year or two (the time between the rule-changes and this match), why do they still play by the old rules?
It’s a reasonable question, and I’m sure it has a reasonable answer. I’m curious. Do they play by rules other than BCA? APA? Are tournament directors rejecting the rule-change?
I like the rule-changes. Ten Ball used to be the same game as Nine Ball, but with an extra ball. Now, they’re two very different games. I like that.
The co-commentator ruined the match for sure
django, a little luck is all you neeed,...
Bustamante cues?
bear custom cues
1:28:44 Why are these people commentating?... Gosh, that was frustrating to listen to.
Bro some of these announcers for pool say absolute nonsense. They don’t talk about the game at all in depth or try to call out what the shooter is going to do… so lame
Agreed
Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line. Fifty yard line.
So, how's that Magic Rack workin' for ya? :)
Strange match.
Not that sharp bustamante anymore😢
Way too many shots where Django was not staying down. He looked old and tired. Father time gets most people in most games and sports. Early in the match there were some tough shots he made where he did stay down longer.
@@AlexZander688 maybe he's not practice the way he does before
Well he isn't young anymore, just like Efren say, when you got older your body not working the same anymore..
I want to know how long have they been playing pool 🎱
How long have FILLER been playing pool 🎱🎱
Pool is fun LOL 🎱🎱🎱
Pool is great 🎱🎱🎱🎱
Pool is amazing 🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱
Pool is wonderful 🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱
Who's that one guy in the audience that's in every video? I'm not the only one who notices him am I?
that guy is stu matana. i don't know who he is, or his relationship to pool; heck. the only reason i know his name is because i asked the same question in the comments
Which one?
There's more than one, but I suspect you mean the bearded guy here. I think he maybe works for one of the outfits that puts on these matches, because he is almost always front an center, near the time clocks. That Asian gal is, too. Either that, or he needs to get a life. /S :-/
django looks drained, he's off.
Danny's great. Mark Wilson couldn't run a rack of 9ball if he had to.
rigged?
‘8
No hay Golden break??? Así cualquiera... Psss
that kid is good, but your experience.
Nasty filler
Those 'doily' racks are just a nuisance.
Really? Have you ever used one? They actually work pretty well, especially with new matched set of good balls. Most of the pros I have seen comment on them say they make a more consistent good rack, with proper usage. Watch SVB, he has using them down to an art form. Probably because he's done it about three trillion times. Are they perfect, no. Are they good, yes.
Effren and Busta swing that stroke like they're paddling a boat.
How the hell do they make a ball like that?
Their machanics are shit.
But cant argue with success.
I've seen guys like that b4. They can run em out.
People have talked about my stroke I shoot mostly open bridge.
Like I said. Can argue with success.
After watching for a few games I can see this table is a little funny.
It might be a little fast and has a slight roll on top of that.
Meaning a little too far and to one side or the other.
They're both struggling a little with that I can see.
You're a guy who definitely don't know what he's talking about
earl stricland
filler
efren
The worst commentary! Jeez! That ruined watching this match
Facts
Then turn the damned volume off. It's not god damned rocket science. Jesus H Christ. Obviously you don't need it anyway. It's a mouse move away, dude. Do you whine about everything?
Joshua filler you are the best player. Bustamante you are too old.
Lol score are close
2021 masi aja ngejudge pake umur
Pretty sure neither of those is true. I think a couple of the Chinese players are ranked #1, and Boosty is definitely not 'too old'. His game was off here, like everyone's is at times. I don't exactly think I would write him off though. He is libel to beat ANYONE on a good day, including Filler. If you think he's too old, go put your money on the table and play a few matches against him. Beat him, and maybe your comment might mean something. Let me know how that goes for ya. :-/ And BTW, Filler's was not remotely stellar here, either, compared to his norm, or even the norms for top level pool play, of which both of these gentlemen are members in good standing. I know, don't feed the trolls. My bad.
@@MrJdsenior Bustamante still got it even with his older eyes that are definitely not sharp as once was
Look at these offended people make excuses^^^
Bustamante is a failing player this is a fact he just depends on style
His back tightened up on him. Look at his sitting posture
I'd like to fail like him.
Prime busti would have destroyed these new kids on the block.
BIDEN 2020
we're here for billiards you idiot. troll somewhere else.
@Jerry Bailey hahahaha 😆 look at the child who resorts to name calling
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Hahhahah how you feeling about that now.. smdh
@@mikehopkins7384 pretty good