Destroying the magic was by far the stupidest decision in the world. What makes the decision even worse is that there are so many people who ended up dying when the magic got destroyed
@@bluejay8453 According to what? What if families or relationships had come from different worlds like Marco and Star that didn't have there worlds merge, those families and couples will now be split up forever from being from different home dimensions.
Imagine if instead of Moon and Eclipsa joining star in destroying magic, the ghost of Solaria sits next to star and they have a talk about how the world has changed and solaria gives star the means to undo all the solarian warriors
@@sarahtelles1931She changed close to the end, the show didn't show it, but close to the end the crusaders had a revelation and changed which is why Lolliberry revolted from the new change and why Eclipsa had the mindset to fall for a monster.
TWO episodes about the wandering creatures, actually. Makes it worse because they (tried at least) to go out of their way to characterise literal magic.
@Lydia-l7m Not to mention, even to the extent where two of them had a BABY. A _BABY._ That would mean that Star has canonically killed at _least_ one baby. 😬
Toffee only wanted magic destroyed because it was the only thing that could stop him. Without it there is nothing stopping another Lizardman warlord from raising up.
@@Wileybot2004 If humanity needs to drop nukes to stop one guy, and there is a whole race of that guy that would also require nukes (so we better make sure they are grouped up) then there is a problem. The spell that took Toffee's finger only hurt Toffee. There was no collateral damage. Not to mention third world countries that don't have nukes and/or are small enough that they would basically be nuking themselves. Plus I am fairly certain Star and the others that helped her (besides Marco) don't know about nukes, but did know about lizardmen.
@@Wileybot2004 So Lizardmen might not conquer the world, but that they can absolutely conquer several small countries without the big nations thinking it is worth going nuclear over. The spell that took Toffe's finger just hits one target. A nuke hits the whole are and leaves it irradiated afterwards.
@@Devlerbat we’re smart things, if push comes to shove I’m certain with current day IRL tech and with enough time we could genetically engineer a pathogen that only infects the regeneration lizards
there are thousands of fan kids on the internet, they could've even have a contest to submit one of those kids to appear in the show for the finale, the ultimate thank you move.
Why have a complicated story about an entitled, hyper princess learning how to be a good and wise queen when you can take the easy way out and destroy the very pillars of the universe of the story by placing blame on an easy solution and sweeping EVERYTHING under the rug.
The thing is they never used the magic to benefit society in the same way that science and technology was used…. The mewmans were literally living like it was medieval times lol. They had an infinite power source that could create anything from imagination and they used it to farm corn. That’s it. Corn. That’s the best thing magic did for mewni lmao. Magic was gatekept and used almost exclusively selfishly… name a moment in the show where they used magic to truly improve society outside of fighting and throwing parties lmao.
I love how they just gloss over the many, MANY problems and disasters that will inevitably occur from Mewni and Earth forcibly merging. You think that the monster/Mewman racism is bad? Just wait until human racism gets thrown in the mix. And humans have nukes. Without magic, monsters and mewmans have nothing.
Exactly. And if they don't nuke each other than they'll find another way to kill each other. Let's not forget, without Star's magic and cash, getting out of trouble is gonna be impossible...
Yes a lot of volcanos would go off due to the pressure of the two worlds being merged, a lot of earthquakes would also occur and merged ecosystems would soon collapse in this calamity. The gravity would double and the planets orbit would turn into a mess, a lot of species would soon die out in less then a year due to their ecosystems being merged and the gravity doubling. The heat on the newly merged planet would raise due to both planetary cores being merged together.
@@emperorofscelnar8443 not to mention all magical beings made by magic are confirmed dead too since she doomed 2 species and ended a third. possibly 5 if you count plants and animals
@ I forgot to mention bacteria and viruses from two different worlds would infect the new ecosystems that their introduced to, it would be just volcanic activity and earthquakes going off in this calamity that I said earlier. Humans from would treat the Monsters as invaders and start a war with them, Star didn’t solve anything, she just made things worse if you ask me and like I said with the gravity double due to merged worlds well that would cause problems on the Human body.
Indeed. You should never allow your characters to be able to destroy a fundamental piece of the world. It would be like destroying gravity. For some reason though writers see magic as an unnatural part of reality. They see it as different and thus primed for destruction. Too many stories end by destroying the thing that made the story possible. That isn't good. Its worse than the main character dying. Because it makes the world left behind worthless.
7:40 YES, THOUSAND TIMES YES. 15:26 Toffee is a puppet of Glossaryck, Glossaryck set up Toffee on his war path to destroy magic on the first place. Glossaryck brought Meteora to scare Toffee into anti magic rhetoric and when Star disrupted that Glossaryck began pushing Star to destroy magic. 31:42 honestly I feel that Owl House is result of Dana Terrace watching all of Star vs, talking notes and makes a better show just to show Daron Nefcy how to right a proper fantasy story.
Exactly magic is a tool it's up to you how you use it the main reason why meteora got corrupted as an adult due to having bad mental health and abuse Magic is not the main cause of problem it's you how you use it thus toffee is just a puppet for glossarycky and how much magic you use the reason why eclipsa mother considered a dictator because she made the spell with no spell is dangerous
I said the same thing and no one talked about it until now. If Toffee knew the truth, he would have back down and not go through with the plan. He would have been furious that he was being used.
glossaryck is the true villain of the series. He could have easily sent the first mewmans back to earth but instead he gave them magic and let things progress.
Honestly, Star gets a lot of Hate when she is just another Puppet for Glossaryck. Everyone ignores him and blames Star, yet they do not blame the one behind everything. Star was thrust into an impossible situation with much pressure on her. The Adults who should have helped were also not much Help and more of a Burden on Star (Caused the problem). The Ones who could have stopped her, given her maybe another way, just went with a Plan a child came up with ( a plan Glossaryck pushed on her and made her think it was her own). They did not question her, did not think a bit further, yet again Star is the one to blame when she had many different Adults by her side, who were also more than okay with destroying magic! Glossaryck created all the Events, Gave Humans Magic, pushed Humans into invading the Monster territory, Increased and spurred the Hate of Monsters towards Magic and Humans, and in turn made Humans hate Monsters more. He guided the Queens, hid important information, and tricked multiple queens who trusted him (Like when he acted insane), All to destroy magic, because Glosseryck wanted to die. All because he had enough of life, he was more than ready enough to create a genocide and make a little Girl do the dirty work while acting like a Hero who sacrifices himself at the end ("A Captian always goes down with his Ship") funny quote for a Captian who made others drill holes into the said ship, so it would sink.
Destroying the magic didn't fix anything. Mina litterly said in the finale that she is truly never gone if they kill her since there are gonna be others in the future who will cause conflict and start war eventually which she is right because history always repeats itself somehow. Technically speaking, destroying the magic is the worst decision because it means it's gonna be harder for the Mewmans/Humans to defend themselves against monsters since species such as septarians like Toffee, and Rasticore who are almost invincible due to them being able to regenerate. Also, mixing two universe together is stupid, like I feel like there will be a war already happening since it's a democracy and a monarch mixed, which is a problem, lol
Nah. Humans will easily defeat everyone. Their technology faaar outclasses them. What they going to do against a tank, or a heli, or a nuke? Bows, and swords? Their regeneration will only make it worse for them once they face some flamethrowers. No i think monsters would learn to adapt. They never used magic, and their physical capabilities are useful. Humans would find them valuable as workers, and soldiers to be integrated. Mewmans would suffer the most. They are nothing special now, and they are primitive, and poor. Their value is same as any human beggar. I would also add, that we aren't sure if these abilities are not connected to magic. And if it is, then they will lose it.
@@akuladoctor7355 Eh I think you are underestimating the ones that regenerate, (other then that one that was seemingly just a gag), we saw some that reformed quicker then you could bombard them, if it turns into a war of attrition... well the unkillable monsters are going to win eventually unless you can find a way to contain them scp style.
@@Parasolhyena Humans will just tear them into pieces, then while they are busy regenerating put them into chains, then throw them into an ocean. Or just contain them. Or design a poison, or virus. The problem is, that humans have technology that makes them immune to everything the monsters have. What are they going to do with a damn tank? Or a fighter jet? Also when Meteora destroyed Rasticore it was just a strong grenade. Humans have rockets with similar power. I also think, that flamethrower would deal with them. Even, if they can out-regenerate it they will have so much pain, that they cannot move.
Magic wasn't the real problem, it's the monarchy. After all, the Mewni journal did admit that there were some lousy/chaotic/corrupted rulers that used the wand. Instead of destroying magic entirely, set all of the spell created creatures free & just destroy the wand or just seal the magic, that way no one dies nor will in cause more harm than good.
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 They tried before with Justine, but they didn't believe that he could be taken seriously. As if his bloodthirsty psycho sister was any better.
I haven't read the printed spellbook to know exactly what spells are mentioned, but the fact that you can make your own spells means she could have summoned queen Solaria to talk to Mina or create a reversal spell or just transport them to another realm. Or even have them get lost in time or loose their memory in the realm of magic. SO MANY OPTIONS albeit varying degrees of effectiveness but all better than the "destroy the power souce for all magic beings" idea. You could even tie this in with characters like Moon and Eclipsa with having 3 magic users create an ultimate spell would be amazing.
Exactly. Eclipsa and Star were the most powerful queens Mewni had ever seen (ignoring the fact Star’s bloodline had significantly weaker magic than the original Butterfly line and it makes not a whole lot of sense that she could be so strong), and what came naturally to them were complete opposites. Eclipsa was a master of destruction and volatility, and the only thing Star ever did was create. Together they could have easily modified the spell with no name to only target the solarian warriors and specifically only strip them of their magic.
I honestly would've preferred that Star decided to end the reign of Queens instead of destroying magic. They could instead turn Mewni into a democracy similar to Moon and River's new home. Mewmans wouldn't have someone to solve all their problems and be forced to learn things on their own, the MHC wouldn't have anyone to manipulate from childhood into becoming monster racists, and the monsters wouldn't have a power source to steal in the form of a wand.
I would have also went with them safely freezing time, gathering mina's army and the commission. Trap them in the neverzone with pro monster merch on the commission. Heckapoo close off dimensional travel to and from there. Mina's broken mind would cause her to destroy the commission AND they would be trapped in the Neverzone forever. While corrupt magic would be real issue, Star and Marco fight Tom. Tom gets cured but Marco gets corrupted via impalement, his monster arm returns but he becomes one with it. *Think Monster Human hybrid*, Star kisses him which purifies him but he stays a monster hybrid but is fully in control of everything, then they fight Glossaryck who showed up and got corrupted. Absorbed all the corruption too gain all the power of it, and unlike the other corrupted beings he'd be able to talk. Fights star and marco in a final fight with his full power in his true form, they blast him with the wand AND in their own butterfly forms, marco's being a bit more monster like. Star becomes the new guardian, etc.
*glances at the history of US expansion across North America, Israel's ongoing actions in Gaza, the French Republic's colonialism, etc.* Why exactly would being a democracy do anything to solve the problems of racism and genocide?
This ending ruined the show for me. I can’t not even rewatch the show because of it. Other then the magical genocide. There is also the fact that the world now has human and technology from our world. Meaning that monsters will still be persecuted because we know humans will use guns and stuff after the monsters. And the racist mewman would unite with the humans. Edit: I do want a spin off following Mariposa and Meteora and their goal being about bringing magic back. Would be so good.
@@BARALover96 alternatively, the writers could’ve doubled down on Jackie Lynn Thomas being gay, causing Disney to end the show early, forcing the writers to write a new ending around toffee and ludo, and it would’ve probably been better what we got.
I completely understand you. Although for me I can’t say it ruined the show for me, I still love the first few Seasons. The last one was fine by me until…… That atrocious finale. Just horrible.
@@BARALover96 Don't worry. Humans will also be racist against the Mewmins. The people from an alien world that brought the monsters with them when they showed up when humans are still racists against other humans? Forget about it.
It would have been so powerful if even though Glosarick told her too, and even though her tapestry was being finished, if she thought back on the implications, decided not to take the easy way out and destroyed her finishing tapestry, and then went back to actually fight.
Marco: What happened to your hearts? Star: There are no more hearts, there is no magic or kingdom, now I am a normal girl like Janna. Now I'll have to learn how to live without magic...I won't last even 1 week.
destroying the magic was a really bad decision and completely unnecessary. Them destroying the magic and merging the worlds is also going to start a whole new horrible sequence of events but now monsters and mewmans alike wont have magic to defend themselves against guns, chemical weapons and bombs. The fact that their worlds were forced together are going to create entirely new tensions. The humans wont like it because now the mewmans and monsters are screwing with everything they knew. big monsters are destroying houses, humans would see loved ones killed, etc.
imo they should have had the villain destroy magic, and then show magic already coming back at the end. Basically, "the heroes lost the battle, but magic will return, and the war will continue." A perfect ending for how the show presented it all.
I've seen many other shows talk about the destruction of magic and while much of them came from the same reasoning Star did (to a degree,) the other protagonists realized how stupid the idea actually was. Here are several reasons why this is so. 1. Many creatures (in Star's universe, at least) are born from magic itself including but not limited to the Warnicorns, fairies and of course, Spider with a Top Hat. By destroying magic, Star had essentially committed a mass genocide that rivals both the Exterminations from Hazbin AND the universal destruction caused by the Diamond Authority on Steven Universe. 2. Several people traveled to other worlds before Star's choice was made, such as when that one squire decided staying in the Never-Zone was better than her own world. By destroying magic, Star trapped these poor schmucks in those worlds for all eternity; far from their families and loved ones. 3. In other universes where protags considered destroying magic; they ultimately realized, in the end, that their actions wouldn't make THEM any better than their villains. In short, not only did Star make a VERY stupid decision but to this day, many people consider this finale as bad as Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Furthermore, someone should've taught Star that it's not the WEAPON that's good or evil but the individual USING IT! Why is this such a hard lesson for people to remember?! Even in the real world, people wish guns never existed...when in reality, it's the emotionally unhinged yahoos using them that are the problem
Number 2. can also be taken in two ways because if it's true that everyone teleports back to there original realm that means if they moved and made a family outside of their original world they will never see them again... also what happens to the children of the mixed races, do they just teleport back to the planet they were born on with no one or do they at least get the leeway that say a child gets to stay with one parent. Then there is also the fact that so many people left there worlds because their worlds were awful, they then just get teleported back to their awful world one day no idea why but are now trapped there.
I just hate how writers can think that destroying magic should even be possible. No one ever destroys gravity. So why do they keep trying to destroy magic? Because they never saw it as part of their world is why. Not really. It was always this small thing to them that existed to tell the story and nothing more. Magic should be a part of the world. Star could have destroyed the magic source her family drew from. That shouldn't be the only source of magic the show shows though. Even Star VS has to have other magic sources, but we didn't see that and they just described the pools star blew up as magic itself.
@@Merilirem In some stories, they describe magic as a sort of...energy that exists in all things (like chi, mana or aura.) In which case, you couldn't simply wipe it out *snaps fingers* like THAT because it resides within all things
18:18 Star finishing the spell that Soloria started would have been better than what we got in Cleaved. Also, Star destroying the wand in the process is not only bad due to killing the spells inside, but also technically killing another living object (since the wand used to be a living crocodile head when Justin the Uncalculated owned it).
Yeah ok just gonna weigh in here. On something that nobody talks about/has mentioned yet in everywhere i have read. As i re watched the finale i think i got it. I think i got why the finale upset me so much. It was a subtle writing flaw that ticked me off as a writer that i didn't get until now. But now that i do ii understand why i still have issues. Simply put i let myself be confused by her wanting to stop mina. This is not important in the long run. What upset me so much was that Star never considered all the problems for others not on mewni without magic(or the spells) . what star did was the antithesis of the whole show, she became what she hated, a queen making a big decision for everyone else without actually considering the wants and needs of others. That is why i was so upset. When you break it down that is so against what Star's character is that it's downright upsetting. It sort of just...Makes her what she hated so much. Someone who makes decisions for others, saying it's for the best without asking anyone else. Literally her entire problem with the commission was this very thing and them lying about it saying ti was for the greater good of mewni. She basically does the same thing that feels so wrong Its just... So selfish. And there are no real consequences or fallout of this that affects her in a negative personal way It makes Star almost into a Mary Sue Everyone loves her and accepts her decisions no matter what and faces no consequences for her actions She kills magic and gets the guy in the end Simply put it makes star a hypocrite. Think about it. Star is litteraly a giant hypocrite by the end of the series and nobody points this out or addresses it. Heck even most people pointing out the problems of the show DON'T point THIS out either.
100% correct btw. She made a huge decision that effects the entire universe only after talking to like a small group of people about it. That, in itself, is incredibly flawed. No matter how much the writers may say "Everything is fine," logic dictates that it cannot be that simple.
@@PatlandOneTwoThreeFourFive This is a similar issue I had with Legend of Korra’s second seasons last episode where she just randomly decided to keep the spirit portal open and not think about the major consequences that could have on the world without talking to anyone else but Tenzin who would already be bias about the situation.
Yeah she was pushed to it by blue boi but she should have found a way to go beyond his plans. Not just end up playing right into them. He still could have gotten what he wanted but on Stars terms.
It avoids the real problem: that a huge amount of people use the power for terrible purposes. Instead of everyone becoming wiser and able to be at least a little more responsible with magic, they remove the magic and kill everyone that relied on it to live. Better ending, have everyone begin to put in effort to get along better. Not everyone just gets along better, everyone starts working to get along better.
Svtfoe has been trending a lot recently and it really just reminded me how much I hated the finale of the show. Like the way Mina is still the worst villain of the series esp bc Meteora took her out like nothing in the S3 finale so why am I supposed to take her seriously when it’s very easy to deal with her. Then the bs they had to pull to not be able to take away the powers of the new warriors like it makes me mad just thinking about sm character assassination S4 did. Then rushing the dark magic corruption in the realm of magic that went absolutely no where.
It was probably more like the racist bigotry of Mewmans was the real villain than Mina herself being one (kinda like how tyranny of Kree Empire was the real villain in Captain Marvel rather than just Yon Rogg himself). I think even Star acknowledge that Mina herself isn't really much of a threatening opponent and could be taken down again if they tried. Things only got out of hand when they realized there were a lot others that sided with Mina and were powered up to her level.
The Answer is "NO!" With destroying magic Star also destroyed creatures whos made out of magic are now dead! What happens to Mewni WHO relys on magic to function?! All those Spider With A Top Hat episodes now feels like filler knowing that both him and all those spells are gonna die later! Heckapoo (the only good one of the high magic commission), is now dead! and most importantly... THE VILLIAN TOFFEE ACTUALLY WON!!! The finale has gotta be one of the WORST next to Game Of Thrones! And confidently they BOTH came out in 2019! ☠️
I hate almost the entirety of the series finale but there’s one small moment I really really love, when they’re all saying the whispering spell and all the past queens appear, the contrast between Moon tearing up upon seeing her mother and then Eclipsa blocking out Solaria with her wings its such a tiny gem of a moment buried in a shit show of a finale
What I want to know was why the book kept referencing queens being sent into a volcano when they decided to retire. Like, what was that about!? The writers had too many ideas and not enough focus.
Apparently the butterfly family had a volcano resort house that the queens go to whenever they wanted, Skywynne's own mother Lyric apparently abdicated the throne for her 17 year old daughter cause she found reigning boring and wanted to live in the volcano. What the heck why haven't we seen more of the butterfly family? If they were gonna make filler episodes on season two or three why not focus on the royal family of the butterfly queendom? Show them partying on the volcano and flash ou their opinions on monsters or whatever
@@q.s.w.9074 Good point. Why didn't they use a few episodes to have Star review some key members of the family? It could've started out as research that just became an episode from that members life.
@@shadowarchivist2382 Yesh, that is literally wasted potential on the producers. Why have such cool designs of the butterfly family members, only name aunt Etheria, aunt Felicity and uncle Hertrude. Then never use them again, hell give us a butterfly family episode. It would be interesting to hear other members of the family, their opinions, lives, way of thinking, if they could use magic or even what they thought about them not being true butterflies? So much wasted potential
it actually makes me happy how after my svtfoe liking revived this recent december, I found out abt your svtfoe videos and I love how you upload this one this year LOL Edit: In my opinion, no, I dislike how they didn't thought abt the implications of it and how it just feels like a deranged thing in general, there's so much stuff in this show that pisses me off even if it is like my favorite cartoon
If I remember right there's an alternative ending from the storyboard. Which has magic more or less remade. I feel like if that was the true ending then what we got in the show was due to the higher ups meddling
I think we needed to find out about Toffees master more than anything, hey who knows maybe a monster and mewman alliance's against that unknown villain could be the start of the peace that Comet wanted
30:28 I have to disagree I absolutely hate that scene. Because in a way everything conflict in the series endgame is ultimately her fault. The solarian warriors spell. Her grooming mina into a bigot. All her fault and in the end without any on screen development she's all "I accept you and monsters now! " Unbelievable.
Very true, my favorite part of that scene is actually Eclupsa being surprised by her butterfly form & using her wing to block out her mother, it felt like a very purposeful counter to Moon's reaction to her mom. Also, if I was her I would've yanked my kid away from her grandma 😅
To prevent a bunch of people from dying... She murdered far more people and simply added to the death toll with a future delay for the monster execution. After all her death of magic killed far more people, ruined far more lives, and then dumped all of the monsters in the normal human world who have a lot of non-magical ways to defend themselves and murder monsters.... And you have to convince humanity that not murdering the endless swarm of monsters with magic like powers that murdering the monsters running rampant in your world is a bad idea. Verse listening to the monster hating nut job who knows how to best kill monsters while you have modern age weapons. They just delayed the death toll and removed what defenses the monsters had.
I was one of the biggest stans and defenders for this show when I was a teen and honestly I remember the finale was tough to defend even if I liked it. It's one of the ballsiest and most shocking kids show endings ever so I respect it, especially for coming out at the same time as Steven Universe's ending and being the polar opposite. But there is so much wrong with that one decision in the ending that people overlook insanely big plot holes: I have never seen someone mention that time magic is fickle in this universe and theoretically time should just be frozen. And space time should collapse. However, as funny as it is, I think the ending could have been passible if they added one word: "Mewman magic" If they emphasized just the mewman magic, the sacrifices would have been stable, the worlds can still merge, the commentary is still intact, the universe doesn't collapse, the trillions of magical creatures not affiliated with mewni would still exist, we wouldn't have mewni just... control all the magic in the multiverse. Like no one mentions just how that one word would have made the sacrifice mathematically logical.
SVTFOE is forever ruined because of the finale. So much wasted potential. Star and Moon are my least favorite characters now after watching the finale.
Gott say, that early on in the show they laid out hints that this is a narrative they could take and would be very interesting if they actually took time to consider this dilemma, weighing the consequences of magic vs the benefits, actually LISTEN to Ludo's case and the monsters, what sort of power magic gives elected people and how that can be used to oppress others, and even if the current ruler won't do that, the next one might. It was an interesting conversation worth having... But they didn't... And because they failed at having the conversation or consider the negative consequences (Except splitting Marco and Star away from each other.) it feels like a rushed and exceptionally dumb move... if they had followed through and Star did fulfill Ludo's wish, and the narrative had carried the theme, it could have been so great... But it just wasn't...
No Star shouldn't have killed the magic. I don't know why the finale was rushed, but it would have been better if Mina Loveberry had been the final boss. Mina should have turned on the commission, killed them,v snatched the wand in a power grab to transform into her one wing angel form and try to kill Star's mom... There ! That would have been a better ending. Seriously, the commission and Glossirik get off too easily.
Ive always found it funny that the finale aired the same day as the GoT finale, there were two disappointing finales that day and many people were left unhappy. I think it might be a symptom of people not being able to write endings very well.
At least Dragon Age did a better job with the whole Magic is dangerous argument. The Chantry, which is the dominant religion in the Continent of Thedas preaches that magic is meant to serve Mankind, not rule over it. They also state that mages, the people who use magic, fall pray to corruption as they are possessed by demons, who use their bodies as a means of spreading chaos across the world. Blood Magic is considered the most dangerous and evil form of magic since many mages use blood magic to control people as well as summon demons. Both the Ancient Elven Empire and Tevinter Imperium were ruled by corrupt mages who enslaved most of the people of Thedas and the rulers of those two empires, the 7 magisters and the Evanuris were responsible for the many disasters that plague Thedas. The Evanuris unintentionally created the Blight when they used a Lyrium Dagger to cut the Titans from the Fade. There was also the part where Solas created the Veil to keep the Evanuris sealed in the Fade when he rebelled against them for their tyranny over the elves. This resulted in the Elves losing their immortality and empire. The 7 Tevinter Magisters used Blood Magic to enter into the Fade, which caused the Blight to be unleashed on Thedas and created the Darkspawn. A lot of characters in the Dragon Age series were affected by magic like Fenris, an elf who was given Lyrium Tattoos by a Magister named Danarius which causes him to phase through objects like a ghost. There’s another side to this whole thing as the Mages are taken from their families as kids and forced to spend the rest of their lives in towers called Circles, in where the Templars watch the mages any move and kill any who would use blood magic. The Qunari mages have it the worst as the Qun treats them like animals as they are chained and leashed. Some Qunari Mages have their mouths sown shut.
😂 I find it so funny when certain shows randomly make their way back in the algorithm. Star vs has been alllll over my recommended and I ended up watching a ton of your videos 😂 thought it was just me but I guess there was a random resurgence
honestly its a good show but it has a stupidly massive plot hole that being how did the finger get in the wand to corrupt it there is literally no explanation for it what did the finger grow legs and walk in after moon cut it off
Absolutely Not! No one should ever, ever, destroy the foundation of what makes their story's universe unique and interesting for some overhyped ship or other excuses, especially in fantasy or science fiction. This ending annoyed me more than Game of Thrones ending. At least supernatural stuff still exists in George RR Martin's world.
apparetnly tom can still travel through the different worlds (underworld and earth/mewni) even after teh magic is gone? which means his magic is spereate than the magic on mewni (which was supposed to be the magic in the universe (maybe idfferent multiverses have diff magic but they never said anything ablout that). but if that was how it was, it didn't make sense how he couldn't travel back to the underworld when heckapoo shut down all teh portals. its not supposed to eb the same magic, yet he can't portal.
Another thing that bothers me about this decision (among many), is that the episode treats Star like she's wiser beyond her years for making such a mature decision, even if might mean that she never sees Marco again, but I think in reality, she's still an immature little girl who should've _never_ been given this kind of power, because her priorities are almost _entirely_ in the wrong place, and she never really thought through the implications of her decision. Now, for most situations, this could be forgivable, since she is just a young teenager, and immaturity kinda comes with the territory, _however,_ she also still made a stupid decision that affected so many lives in ways she could never have imagined. I hate pretty much everything about that finale, and looking back, the entire philosophy of the show at large is incredibly flawed, and it makes me believe that the creator herself, is perhaps just as immature and shortsighted as her protagonist.
I actually wrote something similar to this when I saw the episode where Toffe destroyed magic. Many of the points also translate to Star destroying it. I reposted it below. "HOW IS PONYHEAD STILL ALIVE? She is a floating head that shoots lasers from her horn and constantly sparkles from the neck hole that she uses like a pocket. There is ZERO nonmagical explanation for her existence. If this is the case, how was she still around after Star destroyed the realm of magic? It goes even deeper than that. How could Toffee regrow a hole in his chest after he tried to destroy magic in 3.4? If they are both using magic, then it's not a stretch to assume that other monsters also use magic similarly. Think of Buff Frog jumping long distances while holding two people and Slime healing spider bites instantly after touching them. I'll give the show points for showing Glosseryck and the MHC disappearing with the magic, but they are the only ones mentioned to have died! It seems the writers didn't think about the full ramifications of how destroying magic would affect the world they built. It would also be ironic that Toffee's plan to destroy magic would make it possible for him to be killed and doom his fellow monster's extinction, while the Mewmans would have a better chance to rebuild and recover." As for your video, it's a good point about if Tom being able of moving between the underworld and anywhere else. that also apply to every other person, industry, or world that relies on Interdimensional Scissors. Immagion the breakdown of trade.
I have a theory that Justin the boy Queen secretly is the father or grandfather of Queen feistivia meaning star butterfly is actually a butterfly Justin whilst being Queen could have been trying for an heir or May of had a secret affair leading to feistivia
Apprently as well. In season 1 and most of 2's development. the show had writers from avatar the last airbender on it's team which honeslty expalins alot. In season 1 the show was great at juggling a large cast of major and minor characters as well as having a slowly building overarching plot. However in 2 you can really feel the show starting to buckle and that's beacuse the writers left to go make dragon prince halfway through season 2's creation. this explains A LOT about what feels so off about seaosn 2 as it's essiently Daron Nefcy startign to to take direct writing control and the old writers leaving. This would explain alot about seasons 3 and 4 and esepcially when some earth characters like Jackie or Janna feel unfinished and like they had something in the works to be revealed but it went nowwhere. Most likley left over plot outlines from the avatar wrriters.
This show felt like improve. It's like someone said, " Here is an idea, let's see where it goes! ", for every episode. To answer the question of this video, NO. The answer is no. Star is so convinced magic is bad to the point she has to destroy it but only hesitates when it means she can't have Marco. She should have thought about how this would affect the multiverse instead of her love life. When the show first started Star was portrayed as being impulsive and running into situations headfirst without thinking and after all this time ...she still is! I don't know why there are rumors of this getting a movie, but not even that can save this show. This needs a hard reset.
I never watched Star Vs. but I've heard about this ending to high heaven and seen enough clips to get a general idea of how dumb a choice this was. It feels to me like some sort of super rushed "anti-gun/anti-war" PSA. The idea that "some people have used magic to hurt others, thus magic can only ever cause harm". Doesn't matter how much good has come from its use, so long as there is a potential for people to exploit it in the future, it must be bad. So what do you do? You use magic to put an end to magic, cause a genocide in the process, and now no longer have that resource to deal with threats that require magic to deal with. There was no way they were gonna pull this ending off, even if they spent an entire season focused on the subject.
honestly part of the reason i never finished the show was mina suddenly being unstoppable like??????? i hardly ever thought of her and SHE was the last big bad??????? AND THEY DIDNT JUST USE THE SPEEL WITH NO NAME OR BLACK VELVET INFERNO TO KILL HER????? outrageous. the other part was the shipping wars i thought it was so stupid and ima be real; thought star and tom worked better. like the whole situation w star n marco feels like that one south park ep u talked about where they changed the flag, i feel like if they just kissed earlier on they woulda got it outta their systems n moved on idk im gonna go get pudding
I've always hated "destroy the magic" plotline. There was a magical girl Anime, I can't remember the name, they destroyed magic too. The plotline always rub me the wrong way. Switch some words in and its this, "Electricity is evil! We need to destroy it!" Then right after Electricity is eliminated, thousands of people instantly die from a lack of medical equipment like pace makers, ventilators and more! Then thousands more will die later from lack of food because of transportation and so on.
its like svtfoe is having a surge people revisiting it or reviewing the show personally im glad the show is still remembered i LOVE this show with the flaws was i disapointed at parts? yes but it didnt ruin the whole show for me.
Does magic have negative effects? Yes. One need only look at how irresponsibly Star uses it to see how it can be potentially extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. Solaria's works also showed how it can be used as a devastating weapon with...concerning effects on those on whom it was wielded, as Mina herself shows. It also has been used as a weapon to conquer territories where those conquerors have no claim, and likely used as a tool to keep some rather bad actors on top (a somewhat miner example can be seen with Heckapoo keeping Marco from leaving his dimension and interfering with the council's plans during the attempted coup/ Monster extermination). That said, let's look at the positives: regardless of the history and politics, it's an effective means of protecting against the wrath of said monsters, and let's not kid ourselves: no one is going to take being attacked, robbed, or worse for the crimes of their ancestors lying down. It's likely served medicinal purposes and has made travel between dimensions a borderline casual affair, a major boon for trade and spreading information, with some entire dimensions set aside for commercial purposes. It's also worth noting that even if a lot of fans don't like her, the horse head is a friend to Star, and while sentimental, I think most would look at a close friend they made through trends like this as a reason why they'd want certain aspects of life to remain in place if that friendship or other close relationships can only exist because of that factor. For example, for all people complain about social media/phones, how many would feel the distance of faraway loved ones more acutely if they again had to rely on hand-written notes for communication? This means that beside some creatures that need magic to live at all, there are many societies spanning an unquantifiable multiverse that rely on magic to function, effecting countless beings' livelihoods and living standards. In short, even giving Star the point of it causing a net negative for her area based on the historical difficulties (for the sake of the argument, as looking above, it's hard to say that even that makes sense), this is ultimately destroying an ocean-spanning ecosystem over the affairs of a puddle.
I thought they were going to do something like use Reynaldo to travel back in time to meet Solaria and try to convince her to renounce the Solarian power and cancel the spell. It would give her and Eclipsa time to talk and hash things out.
Heckapoo's reaction to dying really ticked me off. She was an immortal being and when she was faced with mortality for the first time, she is blase about it. Like she should have panicked or at least expressed that she is uncomfortable at least with dying.
I mean given the genocides it caused, hell no. I'll give her merging the Worlds, if she could have done that without destroying magic, I'm up for that. But no, Destroying magic was never the correct choice.
Notice whenever she did the whispering spell the magic ceases for a moment… then it gets resetted in a sense….. She did the spell in the realm of magic…. And yet after the magic was gone… a portal or a something links between her home and earth… and the worlds clash into one… with strange colors dancing the sky The old magic is dead… prehaps a new age of magic is in its infancy….. I’ll say it once I’ll say it again. This finale is a good SEASON finale… not a SERIES finale
I know it probably will never happen but I would love to see a revival of the series where they fix all the problems and show what happened after the show originally ended
same all the hate for the show could be mended. its kinda crazy people still hating on it like its still 2015 when it came out. its 10TH year ANIVERSARY is coming up in 2 DAYS and peoples hate for its flaws seems to be just as strong. But the show hasnt been forgotten.
I hadn't realized that Tom can never get back home at the end of the show. Portal travel was magic and when it was off temporarily Tom couldn't leave after he broke up with Star.
I think it would have made more sense to destroy the magic if the tainted unicorn was causing the Solarian Warriors to be unstoppable and there was nothing they could do because their own magic stopped working properly and was slowly corrupting them as well. It would have made more sense to make that big of a call instead of Star saying, "My temper tantrum was right" and also brought the magic being tainted full circle in the story arc.
I haven't thought about star vs in a while,I still belive there was another way instead of destroying the magic,there's always more than one way to solve a problem
Exactly magic is a tool Some the butterflies like solaria and crescenta use the magic for dark spells and kill their enemies while Comet/ moons mother tried to get the monster and mewhaumns to get along And, toffie is just a puppet for game to seth and glossarycky and most of the butterflies didn't try with peace trevif comet was the one who tried was killed by toffee while festavia was too busy partying and listening to (heckapoo who she is bad person) and her daughter's end up becoming up worse her and most of them don't even try to help the monsters magic is a tool is up to you how you it and Justin and comet tried to make peace with monsters and the answer is no Theres better solutions to end mina racist War eclipsa could use the spell with no name or black velvet shreek to end the the salarian Warriors or let star master the spell with no name
Star's logic is just so lazy, like what kinda leader just takes away people stuff because people occasionally uses it to do bad things. ... don't answer that
Honestly post Eclipsa's trial revealing she's not related to the current generation of the Butterfly family the writing went massively downhill and I have no clue if it was the network and those higher up in charge to blame (since for some reason Networks have a desire to kill off shows like this, I assume because slapstick is easy to fill in timeslots over trying to be consistent with a long narrative, or in the case of certain shows, obvious homophobic mindsets from the old fat cat investors. Or if it was just a case of the writers not caring anymore and just rushing to finish because the fandom was too toxic or the crunch time to severe. The MHC was also frustrating because they went from a body of obviously near omnipotent representatives of respective magics that well powerful were more childish and naive in nature to a group of supremacists trying to manipulate and control... all for what end? They are all pretty much omnipotent that the whole story line doesn't make sense from their build up. Ironically a better ending well still being chaotic, instead of destroying magic, would be giving magic to EVERYONE. Monsters, Mewmans, Humans, ETC.
The fact that Ponyhead's Flying is innate makes me think the whole "destroying magic" thing is a big load. A headcanon of mine is that Star only destroyed the Realm of Magic, which was something Glossaryck was spreading of use. It was a big power source, but not the source of all magic. Ponyhead can fly. Tom can freely teleport and back. The Laser Puppies are still alive. I honestly wouldn't be surprised Star discovers she could still use magic despite destroying the realm in a fictionalized Season 5.
To prevent a genocide she inadvertently caused a genocide by destroying magic
“I used the chance of a magical genocide to destroy the chance of a magical genocide .” - Star
Star canonically made a war crime and the show is just fine with it
She killed trillions to save a few thousands
And the genocide that she committed was much larger than the one that Mina committed because it affected every dimension where magic existed.
@@danielshaffer-green5684 star is unironically the biggest genocide in the multiverse
Destroying the magic was by far the stupidest decision in the world. What makes the decision even worse is that there are so many people who ended up dying when the magic got destroyed
Heheh that meme withvthe 8 bit chiptune dj gameboy styled.. song titled magic... forvharryvpotter came to mind ngl :D
Not to mention trapping those who might’ve been doing business in other worlds.
@brandonlyon730 everyone form different worlds got sent back to there home dimensions
@@bluejay8453 According to what? What if families or relationships had come from different worlds like Marco and Star that didn't have there worlds merge, those families and couples will now be split up forever from being from different home dimensions.
1000% agree
Imagine if instead of Moon and Eclipsa joining star in destroying magic, the ghost of Solaria sits next to star and they have a talk about how the world has changed and solaria gives star the means to undo all the solarian warriors
Exactly my thoughts.
Why would Solaria do that, she hated monsters
@@sarahtelles1931She changed close to the end, the show didn't show it, but close to the end the crusaders had a revelation and changed which is why Lolliberry revolted from the new change and why Eclipsa had the mindset to fall for a monster.
@@sarahtelles1931 whats 1 Character inconsistency wen there are like Dozens of them
@@sarahtelles1931 Perhaps she had a change of heart in the afterlife.
I hated how it murdered the magical creatures her spells created. We had an episode about them and their life inside her wand!
the salt in the wound was that ponyhead lived.
@@mizv4043 it literally doesn't make sense either! They let her live because they know everyone hates her
TWO episodes about the wandering creatures, actually.
Makes it worse because they (tried at least) to go out of their way to characterise literal magic.
@Lydia-l7m Not to mention, even to the extent where two of them had a BABY.
A _BABY._
That would mean that Star has canonically killed at _least_ one baby. 😬
@@leirawhitehart1236 that we know of...
Toffee only wanted magic destroyed because it was the only thing that could stop him. Without it there is nothing stopping another Lizardman warlord from raising up.
Agree had he gotten control of it he would have been fine with it
To be fair, have they ever tested regeneration vs the power of a thermonuclear warhead?
@@Wileybot2004 If humanity needs to drop nukes to stop one guy, and there is a whole race of that guy that would also require nukes (so we better make sure they are grouped up) then there is a problem. The spell that took Toffee's finger only hurt Toffee. There was no collateral damage.
Not to mention third world countries that don't have nukes and/or are small enough that they would basically be nuking themselves.
Plus I am fairly certain Star and the others that helped her (besides Marco) don't know about nukes, but did know about lizardmen.
@@Wileybot2004 So Lizardmen might not conquer the world, but that they can absolutely conquer several small countries without the big nations thinking it is worth going nuclear over.
The spell that took Toffe's finger just hits one target. A nuke hits the whole are and leaves it irradiated afterwards.
@@Devlerbat we’re smart things, if push comes to shove I’m certain with current day IRL tech and with enough time we could genetically engineer a pathogen that only infects the regeneration lizards
I expected an ending for Star as an adult and a responsible and wise queen giving the wand to her daughter.
there are thousands of fan kids on the internet, they could've even have a contest to submit one of those kids to appear in the show for the finale, the ultimate thank you move.
@@asurathewriter4435 that does sound nice but wouldn't it cause some kind of fandom war...?
@@brokenconstellation as far as i know from, other examples it doesn't
Why have a complicated story about an entitled, hyper princess learning how to be a good and wise queen when you can take the easy way out and destroy the very pillars of the universe of the story by placing blame on an easy solution and sweeping EVERYTHING under the rug.
"I hate science, it's bad and only stupid people use it."
-Star after seeing modern warfare technology.
"Time for me to destroy science"
-Star having had enough of modern technology warfare
The thing is they never used the magic to benefit society in the same way that science and technology was used…. The mewmans were literally living like it was medieval times lol. They had an infinite power source that could create anything from imagination and they used it to farm corn. That’s it. Corn. That’s the best thing magic did for mewni lmao. Magic was gatekept and used almost exclusively selfishly… name a moment in the show where they used magic to truly improve society outside of fighting and throwing parties lmao.
@@jetlaggged_the scissors? The realms that entirely depended on magic?
I love how they just gloss over the many, MANY problems and disasters that will inevitably occur from Mewni and Earth forcibly merging.
You think that the monster/Mewman racism is bad? Just wait until human racism gets thrown in the mix.
And humans have nukes. Without magic, monsters and mewmans have nothing.
Exactly. And if they don't nuke each other than they'll find another way to kill each other.
Let's not forget, without Star's magic and cash, getting out of trouble is gonna be impossible...
Yes a lot of volcanos would go off due to the pressure of the two worlds being merged, a lot of earthquakes would also occur and merged ecosystems would soon collapse in this calamity. The gravity would double and the planets orbit would turn into a mess, a lot of species would soon die out in less then a year due to their ecosystems being merged and the gravity doubling. The heat on the newly merged planet would raise due to both planetary cores being merged together.
Star Butterfly boomed both monsters and humans by merging worlds together, a lot of chaos can happen when you merge planets together.
@@emperorofscelnar8443 not to mention all magical beings made by magic are confirmed dead too since she doomed 2 species and ended a third. possibly 5 if you count plants and animals
@ I forgot to mention bacteria and viruses from two different worlds would infect the new ecosystems that their introduced to, it would be just volcanic activity and earthquakes going off in this calamity that I said earlier. Humans from would treat the Monsters as invaders and start a war with them, Star didn’t solve anything, she just made things worse if you ask me and like I said with the gravity double due to merged worlds well that would cause problems on the Human body.
Short answer:No
Long answer:HELL NO
Me: crank that hell hell no to 11
I was about to say the same.
@@kathyvallejo7884 ruclips.net/video/cfYwCt2eKTQ/видео.html
I used to LOVE this show...
destroying magic means that the world becomes infinitely more boring
Facts
FACTS!!
Indeed. You should never allow your characters to be able to destroy a fundamental piece of the world. It would be like destroying gravity. For some reason though writers see magic as an unnatural part of reality. They see it as different and thus primed for destruction. Too many stories end by destroying the thing that made the story possible. That isn't good. Its worse than the main character dying. Because it makes the world left behind worthless.
@@Merilirem yeah, I've seen so many stories end like this. Like it's just the natural conclusion to destroy magic.
Bro did y’all even watch the ending?? They merged ALL the magical words together.
Glossarych going back in time and setting toffee up killed his character for me. It made him the one pulling all the strings
Yeah, so the whole show was just one guy's overconvoluted suicide
I guess that could be a metaphor for the whole show
glossaryck giving the first settlers access in the first place set everything in motion.
7:40 YES, THOUSAND TIMES YES. 15:26 Toffee is a puppet of Glossaryck, Glossaryck set up Toffee on his war path to destroy magic on the first place. Glossaryck brought Meteora to scare Toffee into anti magic rhetoric and when Star disrupted that Glossaryck began pushing Star to destroy magic. 31:42 honestly I feel that Owl House is result of Dana Terrace watching all of Star vs, talking notes and makes a better show just to show Daron Nefcy how to right a proper fantasy story.
Exactly magic is a tool it's up to you how you use it the main reason why meteora got corrupted as an adult due to having bad mental health and abuse Magic is not the main cause of problem it's you how you use it thus toffee is just a puppet for glossarycky and how much magic you use the reason why eclipsa mother considered a dictator because she made the spell with no spell is dangerous
I said the same thing and no one talked about it until now. If Toffee knew the truth, he would have back down and not go through with the plan. He would have been furious that he was being used.
glossaryck is the true villain of the series. He could have easily sent the first mewmans back to earth but instead he gave them magic and let things progress.
Honestly, Star gets a lot of Hate when she is just another Puppet for Glossaryck. Everyone ignores him and blames Star, yet they do not blame the one behind everything. Star was thrust into an impossible situation with much pressure on her. The Adults who should have helped were also not much Help and more of a Burden on Star (Caused the problem). The Ones who could have stopped her, given her maybe another way, just went with a Plan a child came up with ( a plan Glossaryck pushed on her and made her think it was her own). They did not question her, did not think a bit further, yet again Star is the one to blame when she had many different Adults by her side, who were also more than okay with destroying magic!
Glossaryck created all the Events, Gave Humans Magic, pushed Humans into invading the Monster territory, Increased and spurred the Hate of Monsters towards Magic and Humans, and in turn made Humans hate Monsters more. He guided the Queens, hid important information, and tricked multiple queens who trusted him (Like when he acted insane), All to destroy magic, because Glosseryck wanted to die. All because he had enough of life, he was more than ready enough to create a genocide and make a little Girl do the dirty work while acting like a Hero who sacrifices himself at the end ("A Captian always goes down with his Ship") funny quote for a Captian who made others drill holes into the said ship, so it would sink.
@darkblossum4379 all of these events because Glossaryck wanted to commit suicide. He needed Stars help
I call it bad writing
Destroying the magic didn't fix anything. Mina litterly said in the finale that she is truly never gone if they kill her since there are gonna be others in the future who will cause conflict and start war eventually which she is right because history always repeats itself somehow.
Technically speaking, destroying the magic is the worst decision because it means it's gonna be harder for the Mewmans/Humans to defend themselves against monsters since species such as septarians like Toffee, and Rasticore who are almost invincible due to them being able to regenerate.
Also, mixing two universe together is stupid, like I feel like there will be a war already happening since it's a democracy and a monarch mixed, which is a problem, lol
Exactly, how can they defend themselves?
Nah. Humans will easily defeat everyone. Their technology faaar outclasses them. What they going to do against a tank, or a heli, or a nuke? Bows, and swords? Their regeneration will only make it worse for them once they face some flamethrowers.
No i think monsters would learn to adapt. They never used magic, and their physical capabilities are useful. Humans would find them valuable as workers, and soldiers to be integrated. Mewmans would suffer the most. They are nothing special now, and they are primitive, and poor. Their value is same as any human beggar. I would also add, that we aren't sure if these abilities are not connected to magic. And if it is, then they will lose it.
@@akuladoctor7355 Eh I think you are underestimating the ones that regenerate, (other then that one that was seemingly just a gag), we saw some that reformed quicker then you could bombard them, if it turns into a war of attrition... well the unkillable monsters are going to win eventually unless you can find a way to contain them scp style.
@@Parasolhyena And they can contain them. Or just put them in chains, then throw them into the ocean. They can drown forever.
@@Parasolhyena Humans will just tear them into pieces, then while they are busy regenerating put them into chains, then throw them into an ocean. Or just contain them. Or design a poison, or virus. The problem is, that humans have technology that makes them immune to everything the monsters have. What are they going to do with a damn tank? Or a fighter jet? Also when Meteora destroyed Rasticore it was just a strong grenade. Humans have rockets with similar power.
I also think, that flamethrower would deal with them. Even, if they can out-regenerate it they will have so much pain, that they cannot move.
Magic wasn't the real problem, it's the monarchy.
After all, the Mewni journal did admit that there were some lousy/chaotic/corrupted rulers that used the wand.
Instead of destroying magic entirely, set all of the spell created creatures free & just destroy the wand or just seal the magic, that way no one dies nor will in cause more harm than good.
Not the Monarchy,the problem was the MATRIARCHY. The men should have run things.
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 They tried before with Justine, but they didn't believe that he could be taken seriously.
As if his bloodthirsty psycho sister was any better.
The end of the series is basically
We did it, Patrick. we saved the city from the monster 😂😂😂
I haven't read the printed spellbook to know exactly what spells are mentioned, but the fact that you can make your own spells means she could have summoned queen Solaria to talk to Mina or create a reversal spell or just transport them to another realm. Or even have them get lost in time or loose their memory in the realm of magic.
SO MANY OPTIONS albeit varying degrees of effectiveness but all better than the "destroy the power souce for all magic beings" idea. You could even tie this in with characters like Moon and Eclipsa with having 3 magic users create an ultimate spell would be amazing.
Agreed. She could've made a counter spell with the help of moon, eclipsa, meteora, and possibly even the souls of the ancestors or something.
Exactly. Eclipsa and Star were the most powerful queens Mewni had ever seen (ignoring the fact Star’s bloodline had significantly weaker magic than the original Butterfly line and it makes not a whole lot of sense that she could be so strong), and what came naturally to them were complete opposites. Eclipsa was a master of destruction and volatility, and the only thing Star ever did was create. Together they could have easily modified the spell with no name to only target the solarian warriors and specifically only strip them of their magic.
@@beedoesthings8037 EXACTLY BRO!!! THINK, DARON! THINK!!
I honestly would've preferred that Star decided to end the reign of Queens instead of destroying magic. They could instead turn Mewni into a democracy similar to Moon and River's new home.
Mewmans wouldn't have someone to solve all their problems and be forced to learn things on their own, the MHC wouldn't have anyone to manipulate from childhood into becoming monster racists, and the monsters wouldn't have a power source to steal in the form of a wand.
Yeah, like in the owl house.
That shows how good the owl house is, it successfully where star fails...
@Lydia-l7m The Owl House is Star vs. the Forces of Evil done right.
I would have also went with them safely freezing time, gathering mina's army and the commission. Trap them in the neverzone with pro monster merch on the commission.
Heckapoo close off dimensional travel to and from there. Mina's broken mind would cause her to destroy the commission AND they would be trapped in the Neverzone forever.
While corrupt magic would be real issue, Star and Marco fight Tom. Tom gets cured but Marco gets corrupted via impalement, his monster arm returns but he becomes one with it. *Think Monster Human hybrid*, Star kisses him which purifies him but he stays a monster hybrid but is fully in control of everything, then they fight Glossaryck who showed up and got corrupted. Absorbed all the corruption too gain all the power of it, and unlike the other corrupted beings he'd be able to talk.
Fights star and marco in a final fight with his full power in his true form, they blast him with the wand AND in their own butterfly forms, marco's being a bit more monster like.
Star becomes the new guardian, etc.
@danielshaffer-green5684 That's literally what I was thinking!
*glances at the history of US expansion across North America, Israel's ongoing actions in Gaza, the French Republic's colonialism, etc.* Why exactly would being a democracy do anything to solve the problems of racism and genocide?
This ending ruined the show for me. I can’t not even rewatch the show because of it.
Other then the magical genocide. There is also the fact that the world now has human and technology from our world. Meaning that monsters will still be persecuted because we know humans will use guns and stuff after the monsters. And the racist mewman would unite with the humans.
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I do want a spin off following Mariposa and Meteora and their goal being about bringing magic back. Would be so good.
@@BARALover96 alternatively, the writers could’ve doubled down on Jackie Lynn Thomas being gay, causing Disney to end the show early, forcing the writers to write a new ending around toffee and ludo, and it would’ve probably been better what we got.
I completely understand you. Although for me I can’t say it ruined the show for me, I still love the first few Seasons. The last one was fine by me until…… That atrocious finale. Just horrible.
@@BARALover96 Don't worry. Humans will also be racist against the Mewmins.
The people from an alien world that brought the monsters with them when they showed up when humans are still racists against other humans? Forget about it.
The show was ruined for me a LONG TIME before the finale. This ending was just the rotten cherry on the cake made from salt instead of sugar.
29:00 THIS! The girl who's spent the entire show going "na, I'mma do things my own way" commits genocide because a piece of fabric told her too?
It would have been so powerful if even though Glosarick told her too, and even though her tapestry was being finished, if she thought back on the implications, decided not to take the easy way out and destroyed her finishing tapestry, and then went back to actually fight.
Marco: What happened to your hearts?
Star: There are no more hearts, there is no magic or kingdom, now I am a normal girl like Janna. Now I'll have to learn how to live without magic...I won't last even 1 week.
destroying the magic was a really bad decision and completely unnecessary. Them destroying the magic and merging the worlds is also going to start a whole new horrible sequence of events but now monsters and mewmans alike wont have magic to defend themselves against guns, chemical weapons and bombs. The fact that their worlds were forced together are going to create entirely new tensions. The humans wont like it because now the mewmans and monsters are screwing with everything they knew. big monsters are destroying houses, humans would see loved ones killed, etc.
5:00 Thank you so much for bringing that up! I always thought that Moon would do the same thing if the roles were switched.
It was the writers that assassinated her character. They fired so many people before the movie and fired the continuity executive.
imo they should have had the villain destroy magic, and then show magic already coming back at the end. Basically, "the heroes lost the battle, but magic will return, and the war will continue."
A perfect ending for how the show presented it all.
That would have been better ending
I've seen many other shows talk about the destruction of magic and while much of them came from the same reasoning Star did (to a degree,) the other protagonists realized how stupid the idea actually was. Here are several reasons why this is so.
1. Many creatures (in Star's universe, at least) are born from magic itself including but not limited to the Warnicorns, fairies and of course, Spider with a Top Hat. By destroying magic, Star had essentially committed a mass genocide that rivals both the Exterminations from Hazbin AND the universal destruction caused by the Diamond Authority on Steven Universe.
2. Several people traveled to other worlds before Star's choice was made, such as when that one squire decided staying in the Never-Zone was better than her own world. By destroying magic, Star trapped these poor schmucks in those worlds for all eternity; far from their families and loved ones.
3. In other universes where protags considered destroying magic; they ultimately realized, in the end, that their actions wouldn't make THEM any better than their villains.
In short, not only did Star make a VERY stupid decision but to this day, many people consider this finale as bad as Season 8 of Game of Thrones. Furthermore, someone should've taught Star that it's not the WEAPON that's good or evil but the individual USING IT! Why is this such a hard lesson for people to remember?!
Even in the real world, people wish guns never existed...when in reality, it's the emotionally unhinged yahoos using them that are the problem
Remember The Series Finales For SVTFOE And GOT Aired On The Same Day.
Huh, great points. :)
Number 2. can also be taken in two ways because if it's true that everyone teleports back to there original realm that means if they moved and made a family outside of their original world they will never see them again... also what happens to the children of the mixed races, do they just teleport back to the planet they were born on with no one or do they at least get the leeway that say a child gets to stay with one parent. Then there is also the fact that so many people left there worlds because their worlds were awful, they then just get teleported back to their awful world one day no idea why but are now trapped there.
I just hate how writers can think that destroying magic should even be possible. No one ever destroys gravity. So why do they keep trying to destroy magic? Because they never saw it as part of their world is why. Not really. It was always this small thing to them that existed to tell the story and nothing more. Magic should be a part of the world. Star could have destroyed the magic source her family drew from. That shouldn't be the only source of magic the show shows though. Even Star VS has to have other magic sources, but we didn't see that and they just described the pools star blew up as magic itself.
@@Merilirem In some stories, they describe magic as a sort of...energy that exists in all things (like chi, mana or aura.)
In which case, you couldn't simply wipe it out *snaps fingers* like THAT because it resides within all things
18:18 Star finishing the spell that Soloria started would have been better than what we got in Cleaved. Also, Star destroying the wand in the process is not only bad due to killing the spells inside, but also technically killing another living object (since the wand used to be a living crocodile head when Justin the Uncalculated owned it).
Yeah ok just gonna weigh in here. On something that nobody talks about/has mentioned yet in everywhere i have read.
As i re watched the finale i think i got it. I think i got why the finale upset me so much. It was a subtle writing flaw that ticked me off as a writer that i didn't get until now. But now that i do ii understand why i still have issues. Simply put i let myself be confused by her wanting to stop mina. This is not important in the long run.
What upset me so much was that Star never considered all the problems for others not on mewni without magic(or the spells) . what star did was the antithesis of the whole show, she became what she hated, a queen making a big decision for everyone else without actually considering the wants and needs of others. That is why i was so upset. When you break it down that is so against what Star's character is that it's downright upsetting.
It sort of just...Makes her what she hated so much.
Someone who makes decisions for others, saying it's for the best without asking anyone else.
Literally her entire problem with the commission was this very thing and them lying about it saying ti was for the greater good of mewni.
She basically does the same thing
that feels so wrong
Its just...
So selfish.
And there are no real consequences or fallout of this that affects her in a negative personal way
It makes Star almost into a Mary Sue
Everyone loves her and accepts her decisions no matter what and faces no consequences for her actions
She kills magic and gets the guy in the end
Simply put it makes star a hypocrite. Think about it. Star is litteraly a giant hypocrite by the end of the series and nobody points this out or addresses it. Heck even most people pointing out the problems of the show DON'T point THIS out either.
100% correct btw.
She made a huge decision that effects the entire universe only after talking to like a small group of people about it.
That, in itself, is incredibly flawed.
No matter how much the writers may say "Everything is fine," logic dictates that it cannot be that simple.
@@PatlandOneTwoThreeFourFive This is a similar issue I had with Legend of Korra’s second seasons last episode where she just randomly decided to keep the spirit portal open and not think about the major consequences that could have on the world without talking to anyone else but Tenzin who would already be bias about the situation.
Star would come up with some whacky idea that would solve all problems not just destroy it. Strangely this feels like something Meteora would do.
Yeah she was pushed to it by blue boi but she should have found a way to go beyond his plans. Not just end up playing right into them. He still could have gotten what he wanted but on Stars terms.
Oh my god, this is what was wrong with it. Thanks for pointing it out.
It avoids the real problem: that a huge amount of people use the power for terrible purposes. Instead of everyone becoming wiser and able to be at least a little more responsible with magic, they remove the magic and kill everyone that relied on it to live. Better ending, have everyone begin to put in effort to get along better. Not everyone just gets along better, everyone starts working to get along better.
Svtfoe has been trending a lot recently and it really just reminded me how much I hated the finale of the show. Like the way Mina is still the worst villain of the series esp bc Meteora took her out like nothing in the S3 finale so why am I supposed to take her seriously when it’s very easy to deal with her. Then the bs they had to pull to not be able to take away the powers of the new warriors like it makes me mad just thinking about sm character assassination S4 did. Then rushing the dark magic corruption in the realm of magic that went absolutely no where.
True though
It was probably more like the racist bigotry of Mewmans was the real villain than Mina herself being one (kinda like how tyranny of Kree Empire was the real villain in Captain Marvel rather than just Yon Rogg himself).
I think even Star acknowledge that Mina herself isn't really much of a threatening opponent and could be taken down again if they tried.
Things only got out of hand when they realized there were a lot others that sided with Mina and were powered up to her level.
What's this!? A new Star vs the Forces of Evil video 3 years later!?
The Answer is "NO!" With destroying magic Star also destroyed creatures whos made out of magic are now dead! What happens to Mewni WHO relys on magic to function?!
All those Spider With A Top Hat episodes now feels like filler knowing that both him and all those spells are gonna die later!
Heckapoo (the only good one of the high magic commission), is now dead!
and most importantly... THE VILLIAN TOFFEE ACTUALLY WON!!!
The finale has gotta be one of the WORST next to Game Of Thrones! And confidently they BOTH came out in 2019! ☠️
Even On The Exact Same Day.
It doesn't make them filler. It makes Star's actions worse. She killed those spells.
it also makes toffees plan in season 1 tame compared to what happened as well
I hate almost the entirety of the series finale but there’s one small moment I really really love, when they’re all saying the whispering spell and all the past queens appear, the contrast between Moon tearing up upon seeing her mother and then Eclipsa blocking out Solaria with her wings its such a tiny gem of a moment buried in a shit show of a finale
What I want to know was why the book kept referencing queens being sent into a volcano when they decided to retire. Like, what was that about!? The writers had too many ideas and not enough focus.
Apparently the butterfly family had a volcano resort house that the queens go to whenever they wanted, Skywynne's own mother Lyric apparently abdicated the throne for her 17 year old daughter cause she found reigning boring and wanted to live in the volcano.
What the heck why haven't we seen more of the butterfly family? If they were gonna make filler episodes on season two or three why not focus on the royal family of the butterfly queendom? Show them partying on the volcano and flash ou their opinions on monsters or whatever
@@q.s.w.9074 Good point. Why didn't they use a few episodes to have Star review some key members of the family? It could've started out as research that just became an episode from that members life.
@@shadowarchivist2382 Yesh, that is literally wasted potential on the producers. Why have such cool designs of the butterfly family members, only name aunt Etheria, aunt Felicity and uncle Hertrude. Then never use them again, hell give us a butterfly family episode. It would be interesting to hear other members of the family, their opinions, lives, way of thinking, if they could use magic or even what they thought about them not being true butterflies?
So much wasted potential
it actually makes me happy how after my svtfoe liking revived this recent december, I found out abt your svtfoe videos and I love how you upload this one this year LOL
Edit: In my opinion, no, I dislike how they didn't thought abt the implications of it and how it just feels like a deranged thing in general, there's so much stuff in this show that pisses me off even if it is like my favorite cartoon
If I remember right there's an alternative ending from the storyboard. Which has magic more or less remade. I feel like if that was the true ending then what we got in the show was due to the higher ups meddling
I think we needed to find out about Toffees master more than anything, hey who knows maybe a monster and mewman alliance's against that unknown villain could be the start of the peace that Comet wanted
Literally making everyone else suffer cuz her "family" didn't deserve magic
30:28 I have to disagree
I absolutely hate that scene. Because in a way everything conflict in the series endgame is ultimately her fault. The solarian warriors spell. Her grooming mina into a bigot.
All her fault and in the end without any on screen development she's all "I accept you and monsters now! " Unbelievable.
Very true, my favorite part of that scene is actually Eclupsa being surprised by her butterfly form & using her wing to block out her mother, it felt like a very purposeful counter to Moon's reaction to her mom. Also, if I was her I would've yanked my kid away from her grandma 😅
To prevent a bunch of people from dying... She murdered far more people and simply added to the death toll with a future delay for the monster execution.
After all her death of magic killed far more people, ruined far more lives, and then dumped all of the monsters in the normal human world who have a lot of non-magical ways to defend themselves and murder monsters....
And you have to convince humanity that not murdering the endless swarm of monsters with magic like powers that murdering the monsters running rampant in your world is a bad idea.
Verse listening to the monster hating nut job who knows how to best kill monsters while you have modern age weapons.
They just delayed the death toll and removed what defenses the monsters had.
I was one of the biggest stans and defenders for this show when I was a teen and honestly I remember the finale was tough to defend even if I liked it. It's one of the ballsiest and most shocking kids show endings ever so I respect it, especially for coming out at the same time as Steven Universe's ending and being the polar opposite.
But there is so much wrong with that one decision in the ending that people overlook insanely big plot holes: I have never seen someone mention that time magic is fickle in this universe and theoretically time should just be frozen. And space time should collapse.
However, as funny as it is, I think the ending could have been passible if they added one word: "Mewman magic"
If they emphasized just the mewman magic, the sacrifices would have been stable, the worlds can still merge, the commentary is still intact, the universe doesn't collapse, the trillions of magical creatures not affiliated with mewni would still exist, we wouldn't have mewni just... control all the magic in the multiverse. Like no one mentions just how that one word would have made the sacrifice mathematically logical.
SVTFOE is forever ruined because of the finale. So much wasted potential. Star and Moon are my least favorite characters now after watching the finale.
Better solution share magic and ask
Solaria’s ghost for a counter spell to neutralize her warriors.
Thanos: “you break the rules and become the hero, I do it and become the bad guy, it doesn’t seem fair.”
I will admit, I've been binge watching star vs vids as I just came across you last week
Cleved made Phantom Planet look like a masterpieace
Gott say, that early on in the show they laid out hints that this is a narrative they could take and would be very interesting if they actually took time to consider this dilemma, weighing the consequences of magic vs the benefits, actually LISTEN to Ludo's case and the monsters, what sort of power magic gives elected people and how that can be used to oppress others, and even if the current ruler won't do that, the next one might.
It was an interesting conversation worth having... But they didn't...
And because they failed at having the conversation or consider the negative consequences (Except splitting Marco and Star away from each other.) it feels like a rushed and exceptionally dumb move... if they had followed through and Star did fulfill Ludo's wish, and the narrative had carried the theme, it could have been so great... But it just wasn't...
Star must've watched Attack on Titan, and thought "Hey, I could do that, but WAY worse!"
I've been on a major SVTFOE kick so this is like perfect, I would love to see more reviews/analysis videos on individual episodes from you!
Honestly idk why but ive just been getting a ton of svtfoe recently and now i wanna just rewatch the hole show
No Star shouldn't have killed the magic. I don't know why the finale was rushed, but it would have been better if Mina Loveberry had been the final boss.
Mina should have turned on the commission, killed them,v snatched the wand in a power grab to transform into her one wing angel form and try to kill Star's mom... There ! That would have been a better ending.
Seriously, the commission and Glossirik get off too easily.
Ive always found it funny that the finale aired the same day as the GoT finale, there were two disappointing finales that day and many people were left unhappy. I think it might be a symptom of people not being able to write endings very well.
40 mins ago? Woah! I've been watching your star vs. videos recently though! I've always wondered about this episode.
"No sweetie, I'm not" THAT BROKE MY HEART BRO OMG WTF!? 😭
At least Dragon Age did a better job with the whole Magic is dangerous argument. The Chantry, which is the dominant religion in the Continent of Thedas preaches that magic is meant to serve Mankind, not rule over it. They also state that mages, the people who use magic, fall pray to corruption as they are possessed by demons, who use their bodies as a means of spreading chaos across the world. Blood Magic is considered the most dangerous and evil form of magic since many mages use blood magic to control people as well as summon demons. Both the Ancient Elven Empire and Tevinter Imperium were ruled by corrupt mages who enslaved most of the people of Thedas and the rulers of those two empires, the 7 magisters and the Evanuris were responsible for the many disasters that plague Thedas. The Evanuris unintentionally created the Blight when they used a Lyrium Dagger to cut the Titans from the Fade. There was also the part where Solas created the Veil to keep the Evanuris sealed in the Fade when he rebelled against them for their tyranny over the elves. This resulted in the Elves losing their immortality and empire. The 7 Tevinter Magisters used Blood Magic to enter into the Fade, which caused the Blight to be unleashed on Thedas and created the Darkspawn. A lot of characters in the Dragon Age series were affected by magic like Fenris, an elf who was given Lyrium Tattoos by a Magister named Danarius which causes him to phase through objects like a ghost. There’s another side to this whole thing as the Mages are taken from their families as kids and forced to spend the rest of their lives in towers called Circles, in where the Templars watch the mages any move and kill any who would use blood magic. The Qunari mages have it the worst as the Qun treats them like animals as they are chained and leashed. Some Qunari Mages have their mouths sown shut.
😂 I find it so funny when certain shows randomly make their way back in the algorithm. Star vs has been alllll over my recommended and I ended up watching a ton of your videos 😂 thought it was just me but I guess there was a random resurgence
Toffee wanted magic destroyed. Why did he want that?
Because magic was the only means to stop him and his genocidal army.
GJ Star.
honestly its a good show but it has a stupidly massive plot hole that being how did the finger get in the wand to corrupt it there is literally no explanation for it what did the finger grow legs and walk in after moon cut it off
at least someone is at least admitting its good thanks!
Absolutely Not! No one should ever, ever, destroy the foundation of what makes their story's universe unique and interesting for some overhyped ship or other excuses, especially in fantasy or science fiction. This ending annoyed me more than Game of Thrones ending. At least supernatural stuff still exists in George RR Martin's world.
Short answer: no
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooo
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I think the reason the views on the star versus videos went up is cus of one guy on RUclips shorts putting up a lot of clips lately lol
apparetnly tom can still travel through the different worlds (underworld and earth/mewni) even after teh magic is gone? which means his magic is spereate than the magic on mewni (which was supposed to be the magic in the universe (maybe idfferent multiverses have diff magic but they never said anything ablout that). but if that was how it was, it didn't make sense how he couldn't travel back to the underworld when heckapoo shut down all teh portals. its not supposed to eb the same magic, yet he can't portal.
Star should have just given up her own magic if the writers still wanted the “normal girl” ending. No one had to die for this.
Another thing that bothers me about this decision (among many), is that the episode treats Star like she's wiser beyond her years for making such a mature decision, even if might mean that she never sees Marco again, but I think in reality, she's still an immature little girl who should've _never_ been given this kind of power, because her priorities are almost _entirely_ in the wrong place, and she never really thought through the implications of her decision.
Now, for most situations, this could be forgivable, since she is just a young teenager, and immaturity kinda comes with the territory, _however,_ she also still made a stupid decision that affected so many lives in ways she could never have imagined.
I hate pretty much everything about that finale, and looking back, the entire philosophy of the show at large is incredibly flawed, and it makes me believe that the creator herself, is perhaps just as immature and shortsighted as her protagonist.
Im glad you're covering Star vs. And helluva boss. I used to watch your Star vs. watch your star vs. vids all the time back in the day
Eclipsa could have literally just went up to mewnie and used her total inhalation spell and be done with it
I actually wrote something similar to this when I saw the episode where Toffe destroyed magic. Many of the points also translate to Star destroying it. I reposted it below.
"HOW IS PONYHEAD STILL ALIVE? She is a floating head that shoots lasers from her horn and constantly sparkles from the neck hole that she uses like a pocket. There is ZERO nonmagical explanation for her existence. If this is the case, how was she still around after Star destroyed the realm of magic? It goes even deeper than that. How could Toffee regrow a hole in his chest after he tried to destroy magic in 3.4? If they are both using magic, then it's not a stretch to assume that other monsters also use magic similarly. Think of Buff Frog jumping long distances while holding two people and Slime healing spider bites instantly after touching them.
I'll give the show points for showing Glosseryck and the MHC disappearing with the magic, but they are the only ones mentioned to have died! It seems the writers didn't think about the full ramifications of how destroying magic would affect the world they built.
It would also be ironic that Toffee's plan to destroy magic would make it possible for him to be killed and doom his fellow monster's extinction, while the Mewmans would have a better chance to rebuild and recover."
As for your video, it's a good point about if Tom being able of moving between the underworld and anywhere else. that also apply to every other person, industry, or world that relies on Interdimensional Scissors. Immagion the breakdown of trade.
I have a theory that Justin the boy Queen secretly is the father or grandfather of Queen feistivia meaning star butterfly is actually a butterfly
Justin whilst being Queen could have been trying for an heir or May of had a secret affair leading to feistivia
Apprently as well. In season 1 and most of 2's development. the show had writers from avatar the last airbender on it's team which honeslty expalins alot. In season 1 the show was great at juggling a large cast of major and minor characters as well as having a slowly building overarching plot. However in 2 you can really feel the show starting to buckle and that's beacuse the writers left to go make dragon prince halfway through season 2's creation. this explains A LOT about what feels so off about seaosn 2 as it's essiently Daron Nefcy startign to to take direct writing control and the old writers leaving.
This would explain alot about seasons 3 and 4 and esepcially when some earth characters like Jackie or Janna feel unfinished and like they had something in the works to be revealed but it went nowwhere. Most likley left over plot outlines from the avatar wrriters.
wasnt how disney wanted things also an issue which also caused issues with the owl house and amphibia
13:59 to quote a captain who pushed to the artic "no sacrifice no victory" yet his great great grandson said the same
I wonder who's that captain you're talking about...
This show felt like improve. It's like someone said, " Here is an idea, let's see where it goes! ", for every episode. To answer the question of this video, NO. The answer is no. Star is so convinced magic is bad to the point she has to destroy it but only hesitates when it means she can't have Marco. She should have thought about how this would affect the multiverse instead of her love life. When the show first started Star was portrayed as being impulsive and running into situations headfirst without thinking and after all this time ...she still is! I don't know why there are rumors of this getting a movie, but not even that can save this show. This needs a hard reset.
I never watched Star Vs. but I've heard about this ending to high heaven and seen enough clips to get a general idea of how dumb a choice this was. It feels to me like some sort of super rushed "anti-gun/anti-war" PSA. The idea that "some people have used magic to hurt others, thus magic can only ever cause harm". Doesn't matter how much good has come from its use, so long as there is a potential for people to exploit it in the future, it must be bad. So what do you do? You use magic to put an end to magic, cause a genocide in the process, and now no longer have that resource to deal with threats that require magic to deal with. There was no way they were gonna pull this ending off, even if they spent an entire season focused on the subject.
honestly part of the reason i never finished the show was mina suddenly being unstoppable like??????? i hardly ever thought of her and SHE was the last big bad??????? AND THEY DIDNT JUST USE THE SPEEL WITH NO NAME OR BLACK VELVET INFERNO TO KILL HER????? outrageous. the other part was the shipping wars i thought it was so stupid and ima be real; thought star and tom worked better. like the whole situation w star n marco feels like that one south park ep u talked about where they changed the flag, i feel like if they just kissed earlier on they woulda got it outta their systems n moved on idk im gonna go get pudding
I've always hated "destroy the magic" plotline. There was a magical girl Anime, I can't remember the name, they destroyed magic too.
The plotline always rub me the wrong way. Switch some words in and its this, "Electricity is evil! We need to destroy it!" Then right after Electricity is eliminated, thousands of people instantly die from a lack of medical equipment like pace makers, ventilators and more! Then thousands more will die later from lack of food because of transportation and so on.
I loved the star vs videos they where the first ones I watched on your channel they got me into you you’re one of my favorites content creators
Yay another Star Vs review!
its like svtfoe is having a surge people revisiting it or reviewing the show personally im glad the show is still remembered i LOVE this show with the flaws was i disapointed at parts? yes but it didnt ruin the whole show for me.
Does magic have negative effects? Yes. One need only look at how irresponsibly Star uses it to see how it can be potentially extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. Solaria's works also showed how it can be used as a devastating weapon with...concerning effects on those on whom it was wielded, as Mina herself shows. It also has been used as a weapon to conquer territories where those conquerors have no claim, and likely used as a tool to keep some rather bad actors on top (a somewhat miner example can be seen with Heckapoo keeping Marco from leaving his dimension and interfering with the council's plans during the attempted coup/ Monster extermination).
That said, let's look at the positives: regardless of the history and politics, it's an effective means of protecting against the wrath of said monsters, and let's not kid ourselves: no one is going to take being attacked, robbed, or worse for the crimes of their ancestors lying down. It's likely served medicinal purposes and has made travel between dimensions a borderline casual affair, a major boon for trade and spreading information, with some entire dimensions set aside for commercial purposes. It's also worth noting that even if a lot of fans don't like her, the horse head is a friend to Star, and while sentimental, I think most would look at a close friend they made through trends like this as a reason why they'd want certain aspects of life to remain in place if that friendship or other close relationships can only exist because of that factor. For example, for all people complain about social media/phones, how many would feel the distance of faraway loved ones more acutely if they again had to rely on hand-written notes for communication? This means that beside some creatures that need magic to live at all, there are many societies spanning an unquantifiable multiverse that rely on magic to function, effecting countless beings' livelihoods and living standards.
In short, even giving Star the point of it causing a net negative for her area based on the historical difficulties (for the sake of the argument, as looking above, it's hard to say that even that makes sense), this is ultimately destroying an ocean-spanning ecosystem over the affairs of a puddle.
I thought they were going to do something like use Reynaldo to travel back in time to meet Solaria and try to convince her to renounce the Solarian power and cancel the spell. It would give her and Eclipsa time to talk and hash things out.
Short answer, no.
Long answer, nooooooooooooOOOOOO!
Destroying the Magic is like dropping an atomic weapon on the houthis.
Now that I think of it, why didn't they get Rhombulus to trap mina?
Star should have gotten rid of the monarchy instead of getting rid of magic
Heckapoo's reaction to dying really ticked me off. She was an immortal being and when she was faced with mortality for the first time, she is blase about it. Like she should have panicked or at least expressed that she is uncomfortable at least with dying.
I just realized something Star Vs and Miraculous have in common. Terrible finales to the main arc of the story!
I mean given the genocides it caused, hell no.
I'll give her merging the Worlds, if she could have done that without destroying magic, I'm up for that.
But no, Destroying magic was never the correct choice.
Notice whenever she did the whispering spell the magic ceases for a moment… then it gets resetted in a sense…..
She did the spell in the realm of magic…. And yet after the magic was gone… a portal or a something links between her home and earth… and the worlds clash into one… with strange colors dancing the sky
The old magic is dead… prehaps a new age of magic is in its infancy…..
I’ll say it once I’ll say it again. This finale is a good SEASON finale… not a SERIES finale
14:22 I would be fine with the finale If there were no other options
LIKE WHY NOT USE THE SPELL WITH NO NAME
I know it probably will never happen but I would love to see a revival of the series where they fix all the problems and show what happened after the show originally ended
same all the hate for the show could be mended. its kinda crazy people still hating on it like its still 2015 when it came out. its 10TH year ANIVERSARY is coming up in 2 DAYS and peoples hate for its flaws seems to be just as strong. But the show hasnt been forgotten.
I hadn't realized that Tom can never get back home at the end of the show. Portal travel was magic and when it was off temporarily Tom couldn't leave after he broke up with Star.
Its funny how a month ago we got meet the robinsons shorts and now we get star shorts
I think it would have made more sense to destroy the magic if the tainted unicorn was causing the Solarian Warriors to be unstoppable and there was nothing they could do because their own magic stopped working properly and was slowly corrupting them as well. It would have made more sense to make that big of a call instead of Star saying, "My temper tantrum was right" and also brought the magic being tainted full circle in the story arc.
I haven't thought about star vs in a while,I still belive there was another way instead of destroying the magic,there's always more than one way to solve a problem
What a coincidence, I've been re-watching reviews of the ending of Star vs today.
me too! ive been rewatching star. i wonder why its resurfing? videos being made reactions...
I'm so glad to see a video on this topic. This has been my top pressing thing.
Crazy how this got recommended to me when I just finished watching “cleaved” for old times sake
Exactly magic is a tool
Some the butterflies like solaria and crescenta use the magic for dark spells and kill their enemies while
Comet/ moons mother tried to get the monster and mewhaumns to get along
And, toffie is just a puppet for game to seth and glossarycky and most of the butterflies didn't try with peace trevif comet was the one who tried was killed by toffee while festavia was too busy partying and listening to (heckapoo who she is bad person) and her daughter's end up becoming up worse her and most of them don't even try to help the monsters magic is a tool is up to you how you it and Justin and comet tried to make peace with monsters and the answer is no
Theres better solutions to end mina racist War eclipsa could use the spell with no name or black velvet shreek to end the the salarian Warriors or let star master the spell with no name
Star's logic is just so lazy, like what kinda leader just takes away people stuff because people occasionally uses it to do bad things.
... don't answer that
Dang the RUclips Shorts Got me 😆 Great vid btw
Holy shit. In my East Orthodox lands its Chistmas. Still. F**** yeah
I think magic should have just been heavily regulated and they should have gotten rid of the magic high council and put them in jail
Honestly post Eclipsa's trial revealing she's not related to the current generation of the Butterfly family the writing went massively downhill and I have no clue if it was the network and those higher up in charge to blame (since for some reason Networks have a desire to kill off shows like this, I assume because slapstick is easy to fill in timeslots over trying to be consistent with a long narrative, or in the case of certain shows, obvious homophobic mindsets from the old fat cat investors.
Or if it was just a case of the writers not caring anymore and just rushing to finish because the fandom was too toxic or the crunch time to severe.
The MHC was also frustrating because they went from a body of obviously near omnipotent representatives of respective magics that well powerful were more childish and naive in nature to a group of supremacists trying to manipulate and control... all for what end? They are all pretty much omnipotent that the whole story line doesn't make sense from their build up.
Ironically a better ending well still being chaotic, instead of destroying magic, would be giving magic to EVERYONE. Monsters, Mewmans, Humans, ETC.
Man, that Boy Queen was based and ahead of his time.
The fact that Ponyhead's Flying is innate makes me think the whole "destroying magic" thing is a big load. A headcanon of mine is that Star only destroyed the Realm of Magic, which was something Glossaryck was spreading of use. It was a big power source, but not the source of all magic. Ponyhead can fly. Tom can freely teleport and back. The Laser Puppies are still alive. I honestly wouldn't be surprised Star discovers she could still use magic despite destroying the realm in a fictionalized Season 5.