I have to be honest, if we should of known that Zovaal was the mastermind behind the corruption and transformation of Arthas Menethil into the 2nd Lich King as well as the mastermind behind the events of both Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, there could of been a possible chance to save Arthas and free him from Zovaal's control as both Varian Wrynn and Varok Saurfang did for Anduin Wrynn, but while it's already too late to save Arthas, Anduin is already saved and freed from Zovaal's control thanks to both Varian and Varok, and I'm happy that both Varian and Varok saved and freed Anduin from Zovaal's control.
How close Voss and Calia became as friends was cool; as they both have tragic family backstory; voss with the Scarlet Crusade and Calia's with her little brother, Arthas. She is like Terenes, her Father
Despite WoW's downfall, it's actually really heart-warming to see Lillian Voss' journey from her humble beginnings as someone you helped raise into undeath at the beginning of the Forsaken starting area. Honestly I wish Blizzard would give the High Apothecary, leader of the Dark Rangers and other iconic Forsaken characters their own unique models and flesh out their stories some more because they have a gold mine of deep lore to expand on there.
@@cameronmcewen9666 Partially... Let's not restore full faith in Blizzard, but they really did good with Dragonflight. It's one of my favorite expansions so far.
Read the story about what she did after the theramore mana Bomb; she was all set to destroy OG with a tsunami and just level the Whole place. she was THAT pissed and her power went off the rails OP
I hate it when Calia, Sylvanas etc always blame Arthas for everything. It was Nherzul and the legion who were responsible for everything. Can someone finally have pity on Arthas. He was a fucking victim. The blame for Loderon's fall does not fall on him.
i find the line near 9:40 interesting: "Necromancy is the art of animating unliving flesh. Here in Maldraxxus we use the magic of Death to accomplish our craft." does that mean, if we change the type of magic, that we get different types of forsaken? Light magic -> light(forged) forsaken ( Carlia Menethil) Fire magic -> fire(forged) forsaken Frost magic ... Arcane... Shadow... Nature... or even Fel ?
I guess you could argue that resurrection spells are already based in a variety of elements. paladins and priest derive those from the light, shamans from the tides / elements, monks with spirit, druids with nature, warlocks with shadow. granted those aren't "undead" as we know them. it can still be argued it's reanimating unliving flesh.
@@wowplayerstar5489 Resurrection is...awkward within the lore. Fel reanimation is effectively what works for demons, as well as Illidan and the demon hunter player. It grants them an "immortal soul" as Illidan puts it, allowing their soul to retreat to the Twisting Nether before eventually returning to the physical plane. Whether you could consider it resurrection or reanimation is another considering, but I lean towards resurrection since they come back in a living body rather than inhabiting a dead one. The Light has often been used to resurrect, usually on the freshly killed. It could be argued that for the majority of resurrections, their spark wasn't fully extinguished and that you're merely reviving them before they die. Those are when people come back living. Calia is what happens when the LIght reanimated the fully dead. Shadow is an interesting one, since it's drawn from the Void. It could be conceivable that you can consider some spawns of the Old Gods as Shadow Forsaken since they are flesh being animated by Void Magic. But again there's the question of whether its resurrection, reanimation, or something more similar to elementals (where its the energies forming a body out of nearby materials). There's alot of food for thought here.
The type of magic in stated in that line could refer to the main six magic: Light, Shadow/Void, Fel, Arcane, Nature and Death. Imo, death do it through the normal necromancy, Nature do it through Ardenweald, Light do through resurrection, Fel do it by returning their soul to their body right before entering the Twisting Nether like explained by Illidan. Not sure how Shadow/Void and arcane do it tho.
@@zealox1148 I was more hinting towards a new allied race (insert magic type)-forged forsaken. As a new neutral race, similar to pandaren, who can choose to which faction they want to belong.
If you're into degenerate cannibalistic zombies that kidnap people to lobotomise them and perform other fucked up experiments on them, then, yeah sure.
I still don’t understand how Calia was raised as an undead by the Light. Wouldn’t she just be a regular human again instead of essentially being a “Lightforged” undead?
Boom, there is your answer, I would assume lightforged Undead will be a neutral race that picks horde or alliance sort of like the Panderan. Not 100% you never know with WoW.
Most resurrection spells, both in game and in lore, have a timer. If someone had used the light to bring her back right after she was killed, then maybe she would. But I think the idea is they just took to much time for that.
The ablity to enter the realm of death at will creates alot of problems and eliminates Death itself from the game. But I can understand the Expansion Shadowlands has created an insane amount of problems.
Burn em all, i say. Even death knights. Raised into service and war. They deserve rest. Not continued agony in a rotting shell of a vessel. Abhorred for the monstrosity they became in undeath.
9:39 The types of magic in stated in that line could refer to the main six magic: Light, Shadow/Void, Fel, Arcane, Nature and Death. Imo, death do it through the normal necromancy, Nature do it through Ardenweald, Light do through resurrection, Fel do it by returning their soul to their body right before entering the Twisting Nether like explained by Illidan. Not sure how Shadow/Void and arcane do it tho.
Arthas: my soul was first to be claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > i became 100 anima, and despite people know about the split soul thing, Im hitler scum-lord. Sylavanas: My soul was claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > Forgive me UwU my soul was split, but fuck Arthas. Uther: My soul was claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > Sylvanas and mine souls were split, hence our actions; forgive and forget, but not that fuck-boy Arthas. You cant make this shit up.
If there was one character who deserved a redemption story, it was Arthas. I was hoping we would find him fighting the Jailer’s forces. He would be forgiven by Uther at the end before facing the Arbiter’s judgement. I could have seen him going to Revendreth or maybe become a Kyrian.
@@QuantaSolace yeah, thought they had been building it up with all the expansions they teased he would be in. Using him as a red herring each time instead to get old fans back into the game. Alas, the writer used a self insert as Nathanos and had a hate boner for Arthas. And how they treated the WOW universe verion of the afterlife is just another WoD trash writing in the making. But uniquely so of how all this BS was accepted. Still salty as fuck about this.
I've always wondered, how does a Forsaken reproduce? Blaming Slyvanass for reanimating deads is one thing, but what else did she have? Without Valkiryes, Forsakens will just fade away.
Basically this... the existing Forsaken are very finite and while techncially they might be exceptionally hardy (by human standards) they have no real reserve force to build from. If I remember this was partially why Sylvanas hated Garrosh's plans for the invasion of Gilneas that basically amounted to throwing forsaken at the walls like fodder till something broke. As a nation, the forsaken can't really afford wasteful losses... granted teh Valkyr can mitigate much of the losses but it they're not around then there's nothing to be done accept rummage through the scraps and see what works as patch work for those that remain.
I am sorry but Disney Princess Calia shoehorned into the Forsaken at the same time as they ruined Sylvanas is just unforgivable. As someone already pointed out, the Forsaken lore was the best of all the races in WoW. They had a great opportunity to tidy it up but they just went for moustache twirling villain (again) at the expense of another Horde leader (again). Everytime i see a WoW vid covering certain parts of the WoW story, its like looking at photos of an ex you were totally in love with and had to break up with because they couldn't just stop disgusting habit "X" but you know in your heart if this wasn't so you'd be the happiest person in the world together. The Scourge should have been under the Jailer's direct control, whereas Sylvanas and her Forsaken though independent should be under his influence since he retains a shard of the souls of all those risen by the blight (the rage, the bitterness left behind)................................................ I deleted a vast long rant on how i wouldve written it all and then realised im wasting everyone's time. Sorry about that breaking up is hard.
But the Lich King's will over the Scourge is too powerful for Zovaal to comprehend with, and both Sylvanas and her Forsaken would of been under Zovaal's influence if he haven't revealed his true intentions to Sylvanas by saying the same word that Arthas said upon shish-kabobbing her with Frostmourne, "Serve".
@@jefferykelsey all she did since bfa and shadowlands was serve him. Not only moustache twirling but dumb as well. How could she not see through him considering her prior experience with arthas, her intelligence and her overall paranoia is beyond anyone's ability to suspend disbelief.
He was actually captured by her but Blizzard couldn't be assed to show that in game from alliance POV for some odd reason. The Horde frees both him and Faranell in their version of the Darkshore warfront.
@@psyonicflare6681 Yeah you are absolutely right. Tyrande destroyed all of the Orcs and Forsaken in Darkshore and then she "freezed" Belmont with her new moon powers. She should have just executed this pawn. But Yeah its Blizzard. You are right.
Just hate how Bias for the Alliance happen for this... Honestly saw this and thought "great Tauren are gonna be Alliance races now." ... but a far worst fate beheld our Tribe.
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10.1.7 Fyrakk vs Vyranoth: ruclips.net/video/2qotLxgRu5Q/видео.html
Night Elf Prologue: ruclips.net/video/NGf0T6qgOqs/видео.html
Murozond Defeat: ruclips.net/video/d2ndbyQiGno/видео.html
(7)All Shadowlands Cinematics: ruclips.net/video/4MKtq_9n7RI/видео.html
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I have to be honest, if we should of known that Zovaal was the mastermind behind the corruption and transformation of Arthas Menethil into the 2nd Lich King as well as the mastermind behind the events of both Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, there could of been a possible chance to save Arthas and free him from Zovaal's control as both Varian Wrynn and Varok Saurfang did for Anduin Wrynn, but while it's already too late to save Arthas, Anduin is already saved and freed from Zovaal's control thanks to both Varian and Varok, and I'm happy that both Varian and Varok saved and freed Anduin from Zovaal's control.
"Death is cold, even to those who burn." - that's a cool line.
Reminds me of what happened to Bolvar Fordragon. Burned by dragon flame and raised into undeath as the ruler in Northrend.
@@Alarak87 True !
Still get chills when she asks if he's the bomb this time. Shew. Games story maybe all over the place now, but some of that voice acting is noice.
How close Voss and Calia became as friends was cool; as they both have tragic family backstory; voss with the Scarlet Crusade and Calia's with her little brother, Arthas. She is like Terenes, her Father
Despite WoW's downfall, it's actually really heart-warming to see Lillian Voss' journey from her humble beginnings as someone you helped raise into undeath at the beginning of the Forsaken starting area. Honestly I wish Blizzard would give the High Apothecary, leader of the Dark Rangers and other iconic Forsaken characters their own unique models and flesh out their stories some more because they have a gold mine of deep lore to expand on there.
With how arthas was desecrated, I doubt they'd do a good job of it. Better they don't try.
They recovered with Dragonflight.
@@cameronmcewen9666I agree, they went on the path of redemption themselves and for now it's better than it was for sure
@@cameronmcewen9666 Partially...
Let's not restore full faith in Blizzard, but they really did good with Dragonflight.
It's one of my favorite expansions so far.
Yeah, she has earned it ..
jaina was about to go for another crazy arc there
She needs to come to the Dragon Isles and we all know it.
Can you honestly blame her?
Read the story about what she did after the theramore mana Bomb; she was all set to destroy OG with a tsunami and just level the Whole place. she was THAT pissed and her power went off the rails OP
My favorite part of Lore! I main an undead because I love the story of the "Post-Lordaeron empire"
I hate it when Calia, Sylvanas etc always blame Arthas for everything. It was Nherzul and the legion who were responsible for everything. Can someone finally have pity on Arthas. He was a fucking victim. The blame for Loderon's fall does not fall on him.
Right they spit again on Arthas's name, even tho he died the moment he took frostmourne
I mean, did those characters ever find out it was Nherzul? The champions did, and I can’t remember if khadgar and magni did, but idk about the others.
i find the line near 9:40 interesting:
"Necromancy is the art of animating unliving flesh. Here in Maldraxxus we use the magic of Death to accomplish our craft."
does that mean, if we change the type of magic, that we get different types of forsaken?
Light magic -> light(forged) forsaken ( Carlia Menethil)
Fire magic -> fire(forged) forsaken
Frost magic ...
Arcane...
Shadow...
Nature...
or even Fel ?
this could be a nice little bow for when they open paladins to all races
I guess you could argue that resurrection spells are already based in a variety of elements. paladins and priest derive those from the light, shamans from the tides / elements, monks with spirit, druids with nature, warlocks with shadow. granted those aren't "undead" as we know them. it can still be argued it's reanimating unliving flesh.
@@wowplayerstar5489 Resurrection is...awkward within the lore. Fel reanimation is effectively what works for demons, as well as Illidan and the demon hunter player. It grants them an "immortal soul" as Illidan puts it, allowing their soul to retreat to the Twisting Nether before eventually returning to the physical plane. Whether you could consider it resurrection or reanimation is another considering, but I lean towards resurrection since they come back in a living body rather than inhabiting a dead one.
The Light has often been used to resurrect, usually on the freshly killed. It could be argued that for the majority of resurrections, their spark wasn't fully extinguished and that you're merely reviving them before they die. Those are when people come back living. Calia is what happens when the LIght reanimated the fully dead.
Shadow is an interesting one, since it's drawn from the Void. It could be conceivable that you can consider some spawns of the Old Gods as Shadow Forsaken since they are flesh being animated by Void Magic. But again there's the question of whether its resurrection, reanimation, or something more similar to elementals (where its the energies forming a body out of nearby materials).
There's alot of food for thought here.
The type of magic in stated in that line could refer to the main six magic: Light, Shadow/Void, Fel, Arcane, Nature and Death. Imo, death do it through the normal necromancy, Nature do it through Ardenweald, Light do through resurrection, Fel do it by returning their soul to their body right before entering the Twisting Nether like explained by Illidan. Not sure how Shadow/Void and arcane do it tho.
@@zealox1148 I was more hinting towards a new allied race (insert magic type)-forged forsaken. As a new neutral race, similar to pandaren, who can choose to which faction they want to belong.
The forsaken are objectively the coolest race with the coolest lore.
If you're into degenerate cannibalistic zombies that kidnap people to lobotomise them and perform other fucked up experiments on them, then, yeah sure.
No, just a version of Frankenstein's monster
After the Night Elves, Worgen, Dwarves, Orcs, Tauren and Blood Elves yes.
blood elves i can kind of get behind but all the other races you mentioned are dogshit tbh @@Lupinemancer87
2nd to gnomes
I still don’t understand how Calia was raised as an undead by the Light. Wouldn’t she just be a regular human again instead of essentially being a “Lightforged” undead?
Boom, there is your answer, I would assume lightforged Undead will be a neutral race that picks horde or alliance sort of like the Panderan. Not 100% you never know with WoW.
Most resurrection spells, both in game and in lore, have a timer. If someone had used the light to bring her back right after she was killed, then maybe she would. But I think the idea is they just took to much time for that.
Calia be looking like a sims1 char with a cheatcode skintone
Hey now, that's not fair. She's totally a Sims 2 character.
The ablity to enter the realm of death at will creates alot of problems and eliminates Death itself from the game. But I can understand the Expansion Shadowlands has created an insane amount of problems.
Another time Proudmoore hits on Menethil
Their faces have more emotion on them than hollywood actors have
I had hoped that Shadowlands would never be mentioned again...
Boo fucking hoo!
@shaun3713 And is nonsensical, especially in regards to shamans.
Burn em all, i say. Even death knights. Raised into service and war. They deserve rest. Not continued agony in a rotting shell of a vessel. Abhorred for the monstrosity they became in undeath.
It's disgusting the undead haven't been purged from Azeroth.
And they never will be.
Population is the only one not growing anymore. Barely even staying even with what they had pre BFA.@@80sgamer76
9:39 The types of magic in stated in that line could refer to the main six magic: Light, Shadow/Void, Fel, Arcane, Nature and Death. Imo, death do it through the normal necromancy, Nature do it through Ardenweald, Light do through resurrection, Fel do it by returning their soul to their body right before entering the Twisting Nether like explained by Illidan. Not sure how Shadow/Void and arcane do it tho.
Where does Shamanic under too though???
Ironically, the undead heritage quest line seems pretty… fleshed out.. 😅
Hey how about NOT trying to do clickbait videos when everyone is waiting for the actual new forsaken heritage quest chain and cinematics?
Arthas: my soul was first to be claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > i became 100 anima, and despite people know about the split soul thing, Im hitler scum-lord.
Sylavanas: My soul was claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > Forgive me UwU my soul was split, but fuck Arthas.
Uther: My soul was claimed by Frostmourne > A part was claimed by Frostmourne > Sylvanas and mine souls were split, hence our actions; forgive and forget, but not that fuck-boy Arthas.
You cant make this shit up.
If there was one character who deserved a redemption story, it was Arthas. I was hoping we would find him fighting the Jailer’s forces. He would be forgiven by Uther at the end before facing the Arbiter’s judgement. I could have seen him going to Revendreth or maybe become a Kyrian.
@@QuantaSolace yeah, thought they had been building it up with all the expansions they teased he would be in.
Using him as a red herring each time instead to get old fans back into the game.
Alas, the writer used a self insert as Nathanos and had a hate boner for Arthas.
And how they treated the WOW universe verion of the afterlife is just another WoD trash writing in the making.
But uniquely so of how all this BS was accepted.
Still salty as fuck about this.
Arthas story still brings aches to my eyes. 😪
I really hope light infused undead become a playable race, the idea of an undead paladin sounds so cool
I still hate the fact I missed out on the Windrunner Xmog for my Troll hunter.... didn't know I needed to talk to the LAST person after UC... -__-
I enjoyed this questline
at least one proudmoore can get together with a Menethil.
Arthas & Jaina story sad relationships❤😢
HELP! what is the music theme called that starts at 1:43 when Menethil & Proudmoore talk????
I call a Darkranger class. Now that the nightelves have some it could happen.
I swear an AI uploads this with the way the clips are ordered.
I've always wondered, how does a Forsaken reproduce? Blaming Slyvanass for reanimating deads is one thing, but what else did she have? Without Valkiryes, Forsakens will just fade away.
Basically this... the existing Forsaken are very finite and while techncially they might be exceptionally hardy (by human standards) they have no real reserve force to build from. If I remember this was partially why Sylvanas hated Garrosh's plans for the invasion of Gilneas that basically amounted to throwing forsaken at the walls like fodder till something broke. As a nation, the forsaken can't really afford wasteful losses... granted teh Valkyr can mitigate much of the losses but it they're not around then there's nothing to be done accept rummage through the scraps and see what works as patch work for those that remain.
I am sorry but Disney Princess Calia shoehorned into the Forsaken at the same time as they ruined Sylvanas is just unforgivable. As someone already pointed out, the Forsaken lore was the best of all the races in WoW. They had a great opportunity to tidy it up but they just went for moustache twirling villain (again) at the expense of another Horde leader (again).
Everytime i see a WoW vid covering certain parts of the WoW story, its like looking at photos of an ex you were totally in love with and had to break up with because they couldn't just stop disgusting habit "X" but you know in your heart if this wasn't so you'd be the happiest person in the world together.
The Scourge should have been under the Jailer's direct control, whereas Sylvanas and her Forsaken though independent should be under his influence since he retains a shard of the souls of all those risen by the blight (the rage, the bitterness left behind)................................................
I deleted a vast long rant on how i wouldve written it all and then realised im wasting everyone's time.
Sorry about that breaking up is hard.
But the Lich King's will over the Scourge is too powerful for Zovaal to comprehend with, and both Sylvanas and her Forsaken would of been under Zovaal's influence if he haven't revealed his true intentions to Sylvanas by saying the same word that Arthas said upon shish-kabobbing her with Frostmourne, "Serve".
@@jefferykelsey all she did since bfa and shadowlands was serve him. Not only moustache twirling but dumb as well. How could she not see through him considering her prior experience with arthas, her intelligence and her overall paranoia is beyond anyone's ability to suspend disbelief.
All i want is to see Lordaeron restored
nicely done mate :)
Why is Belmont still there? Why didnt Tyrande kill him at Darkshore? Blizzard writing is sometimes....
Maybe because he just escaped flying ? Duhhhhh hellooooooo duhhhhh?????
Because Belmont is a gigachad
He was actually captured by her but Blizzard couldn't be assed to show that in game from alliance POV for some odd reason. The Horde frees both him and Faranell in their version of the Darkshore warfront.
@@Erick-yh4ou Nice bait troll
@@psyonicflare6681 Yeah you are absolutely right. Tyrande destroyed all of the Orcs and Forsaken in Darkshore and then she "freezed" Belmont with her new moon powers. She should have just executed this pawn. But Yeah its Blizzard. You are right.
Who ordered these clips? The timeline is out of sequence
As an Alliance main I'm so excited to see characters on our side go and join the Horde. /s
do you think we want them? this is a lose lose situation.
Baine is a legit G
Just hate how Bias for the Alliance happen for this... Honestly saw this and thought "great Tauren are gonna be Alliance races now." ... but a far worst fate beheld our Tribe.
good job bro
W Baine
God i want to play as a Necromancer in WoW and not a death knight...
Finally, something other than that silly dragon storyline.
Wasn’t this a SL quest line?
That's why it said prologue
Sadly... Destiny AND Division 2 have better plotted set ups for their stories... and their replaying for expansion. -_-
Still glad we didn't get a Vamp race or class. ONLY thing in our favor how lazy the new millenial writers were at these times.
Beyond sub par writing.
I hate Calia so much it's unreal and now the Forsaken are stuck with her. Whoever decided she fit in as a leader for them was on something for sure.
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good god, new wow feels terrible to play watch, and even look at.
little sister got into our toys
Good thing classic exists
@@JeffHongchang haha no doubt
Then why are you here?
@@cameronmcewen9666 because i feel like it.
Nice clickbait