RINGS OF POWER main BATTLE, Fight Scene Autopsy
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Oh boy, Let's take a look at the main battle from RINGS OF POWER episode 6.
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@CanisMalus That would be actually a smooth marketing move. :P
@@meleardil yeah that was reaaaally smooth it definitely doesn't scream of desperation
@@santaclawz4431 🤡
Its such a shame shad puts himself in the video now. The audio is poorer quality, theres no editing, so going through the fight scene is poorer quality. Its actually made me unsub.
Shad, go back to just voice over!!!! Such a great series, ruined.
Interesting fact right off the bat; Vigo Mortensen insisted on using a real steel longsword while filming, which he took everywhere with him during the three years they filmed the trilogy. Everywhere, even when not on set. And because he insisted on using a real steel longword instead of foam or aluminum, when the actor playing the lead Urukai threw the dagger at him in Fellowship, when it accidentally flew at Vigo instead of toward the side, Vigo was able to deflect it perfectly.
Vigo is such a badass.
I’m sure Galadriel could do that right ? 😮
@@blacksheep9505 Considering the stunt coordinator who trained all the actors how to spare with their weapons called Vigo one of the best swordsmen he's ever worked with, I wouldn't count on it.
Damn, even that was like hearing about a legend compared to RoP. No CGI neccesary, just badass
The moment where the big Urukai licked the blood off the knife before throwing it was also apparently an ad lib by that actor during one of the takes.
@@blacksheep9505 Gayladarielle just uses the Force!
I find the lack of shields disturbing
Indeed; in Tolkien’s •The Lord of the Rings• the Rohirrim take shields into battle; Théoden’s carried a “golden shield and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun as he thundered into the battle of the Pelennor Fields; ”Éowyn’s shield “was shivered in many pieces, and her arm was broken” by a blow from the mace of the Black Rider, but the shield undoubtedly saved her life; Éomer “thought to make a great shield-wall at the last, and stand, and fight there on foot till all fell, and do deeds of song on the fields of Pelennor”, and shields are a •sine qua non• for a shield-wall.
Even orcs bore shields: in Moria’s Chamber of Records, a “huge orc-chieftain, almost man-high” was able to overwhelm Boromir by effective use of his shield, and he then nearly killed Frodo:
“With a thrust of his huge hide shield he turned Boromir’s sword and bore him backwards, throwing him to the ground. Diving under Aragorn’s blow with the speed of a striking snake he charged into the Company and thrust with his spear straight at Frodo. The blow caught him on the right side, and Frodo was hurled against the wall and pinned. Sam, with a cry, hacked at the spear-shaft, and it broke. But even as the orc flung down the truncheon and swept out his scimitar, Andúril came down upon his helm. There was a flash like flame and the helm burst asunder. The orc fell with cloven head. His followers fled howling, as Boromir and Aragorn sprang at them.”
It is not permitted to argue with the Hollywood School of Defending Outside the Walls.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 the codex astartes names this maneuver "Incompetence."
@@tarektechmarine8209 May the Emperor protect us from this show.
Gimli in The Two Towers: "Their armor is thick, their shields broad."
Rings of Power: "What's a shield? What's armor?"
To be fair, swords have always been keys. If you insert and twist a sword in someone's body, it unlocks and opens their body.
“Or the sword is a key all the time, and when you stick it in someone, it unlocks their death.” ☠️ -Caboose, RvB 😂
@@brobafett21 Is this armada broba fett? lol
"lift with your back, it's the biggest muscle in your body". - Sarge
@@markstenquist2315 Not sure I’ve heard of Armada Broba Fett…?
“Don’t exhale after every lift. Hold your breath. Your body creates oxygen under stress.” -Sarge 🤣
Galadriel knew all along and was trying to tell the Numenorians; 'stab, twist, gut'
How else does the red water come out?
The Numenorian Ship diagram made my day. It perfectly sums up the logic of the whole show!
Tolkiens writings actually say that Numenor had flying ships that did not rely on sails for propulsion. It would have been more accurate for Numenor to be a steampunk society with lots of zeppelins. Once Sauron gains influence there they should be using guns too.
@@magister343 That was ONE ship that was blessed by gods to do a very specific thing if I remember correctly, and it was explained. the horses and number of people shown in this show are never explained even with magic.
I was so annoyed by this. First, they blew up 2 ships (with no apparent consequences what so ever) and then they use the other 3 to bring a fucking invasion army to middle earth. Why didn't they just animate more ships? Its basically copy paste! Or why not have a sizable fleet, have it burned down and then have the heroes struggle seaching for new ships to charter, so they can make it in time.
Whouldn't be a great plot, but still better than that inconsistant pile of crap we got
All the RoP battle/fight scenes seemed intentionally made for Shad to absolutely obliterate to pieces. And I'm here for it!
Deadass 😂
You just revealed the billion dollar secret!
I love it when Shad says that they "just force ridiculous contrived cr@p to get the moments they want". Liberals in the US making the show. If they can do it in politics, they can do it in their shows and not expecting it is a mistake
RoP must have hired programmers to put exploits for Guyladrial into the narrative
Hehehehe
Confirmed. Sauron is an engineer. He built the dam to provide fresh water to his subjects. The dam maintenance team was issued the sword, which acted as a key so only authorized people could operate the dam through a blood sample DNA test. After a while the initial team's decendents forgot about those things and the sword was lost. After sevearal budget delays the orcs completed the trench that would supply water to their city near Mount Doom, as well as supplying cooling water to the early model RBMK reactor housed within. Unfortunately the initial water flow overrode the safety wier and entered mount doom...
This explains everything, the dam, the blood demanding sword, why Adar had no clue about the sword or spillway (seperate contract), the Plainly Difficult episode on how the water acted as a unintended moderator in the volcano core. Sauron isn't evil, this was really just a run of the mill engineering disaster.
W take
Practical Engineering needs to do a video on this.
As I’m currently studying to be an engineer, I can get 100% behind this and laugh all the while
have you watched the 'Empire did nothing wrong' video? It's a very well done parody that takes the side of the Empire on SW, arguing against the rebels and jedi. It would be awfully easy to turn reverse the good and bad guys in this show. It really is like they're low key wanting us to root for Sauron and the orcs.
LOVED THIS
XD
What’s RBWK? ( hope got it right)
Question: As an Orc living in the darkness wouldn't you use your advantage of having night vision like an owl against creatures used to bright sunlight and instead of bringing more torches extinct those of the others in order to fight in total darkness?
Even Tolkien, the author the showrunners claim to read, understood this.
Your syntax pains me.
Orcs hate to be in sunlight and feel sick, but I'm not sure they can see well in the dark either, since they still use torches to light up their caves and they're briefly thrown into chaos when Gandalf plunges their throne room in darkness (The Hobbit)
I suppose they can see in the dark, but not perfectly and would rather use torches to see better
@@dariovirga7711 they still use torches cuz it's goblin town. Not all the orcs and goblins are the same.
Cuz these goblins can talk, but not the goblins from Moria. Then only acouple orcs of the misty mountain in the hobbit.
And plenty of times the orcs didn't need to use torches especially when Azog and his hunting party was chasing the dwarves they've never used torches.
@dariovirga7711 it was mentioned in the two towers that orcs have night vision. Literally while Mary and pippin were captive.
You know your show is in trouble, when one YT review provides more entertainment than the whole season
Absolutely agree with you well said!👏👏👏
I just don't see how you can feel that way. Shad's entertaining, sure, but being *that* un-entertained for the whole season just makes no sense to me. Unless you already decided you hated the show before you started watching.
@@Draezeth I tapped out after the first episode. Tolkien is my favorite all time author. This was an insult to Tolkien and the incredible world he built.
Lol so true
I think Better Call Saul is a masterpiece, but it was on RUclips that I took full advantage of this piece of art.
Mainly in editing content 👹
1:05:00 Shad, you miss a key plot point that perfectly explains this scene. It may seem stupid to jump off your horse unarmed to tackle an orc. But that's only because you don't understand how big brain this scene is.
If you remember back to previously in this show, this soldier interacted with Galadriel. And because she is so unlikable, he became really depressed. And because of that, he really needs a hug. He isn't trying to kill the orcs, he is just trying to hug one of them.
That is indeed the truth of the matter
Ah, our fella Guyladriel is an orc molester now.
Yes but can you testify this in court ?
This also explains the orcs attacking Elendil.
The poor man lost his wife, has doubts about his son and regrets rescuing the elf who dragged him halfway around the world.
He's badly in need of a big, group hug.
Fortunately, several of Adar's children are happy to oblige.
More like he wanted to commit suicide to get away from her.
I can answer some of these queries you've got fairly easily, Shad;
The tower with a burning light on top of it collapses like that because it is supposed to evoke the collapse of Barad-dûr at the climax of Return Of The King.
The Orcs take all night to batter down an inn door only for the Númenóreans to come charging in with the dawn light because it mimics Gandalf arriving with Eômer and the Rohirrim to relieve the siege of Helm's Deep.
The water comes cascading out of a dam and through a excavated and ruined region of once-lush woodland because that's exactly what the Ents did during their march on Orthanc.
This show tries desperately to ape the dramatic highlights of the original trilogy without one iota of the buildup, character development, or dramatic weight that those films had. And all it does is make me wish I was watching them instead; so that's what I'm gonna do.
Yes indeed, they try to copy so many PJ things. But, they copy those things in a ridiculous way. A tower being held up by a rope, which burns instantly when shot at by a fire arrow... that's just too dumb for words. They do not defend the chokepoint at the watch post, which would have been a much better idea than defending 3 houses and a tavern. The Númenóreans seem to be capable of time travelling, as they suddenly cross the sea and land much faster than they would have been able to do. And then the entire idea of a damned dam releasing water into Mt Doom causing it to errupt is just way too stupid as well.
@@wulfheort8021 its elven rope. WhY dO yOu EvEn cArE iTs A kIdS sHoW wItH mAgIc
@@mandowarrior123 lmao
It becomes even more frustrating when watch the original trilogy and see how awesome it was. The original 3 had a budget of around 300mil. This 1 bill budget is fucking trash
I’m sure you’ve read this many times before in relation to this show but:
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made”
-J. R. R. Tolkien
This man's rage could fuel New York City for a week.
HAHAHA 😂 that's good that's good, good joke
BTW the axe that was totally wrapped up in the bundle the whole time was a mostly modern roofing hatchet made rusty to look old lmao. They are mainly used for splitting cedar shingles and the slot in the bottom is for pulling out roofing nails and measuring the overhang/overlap of the singles. 😂😂
I was wondering about that. Thank you :)
I like how it’s painfully obvious at this point that the writers just think they are so smart. Like “ok the audience is going to EXPECT that the villagers would do the most obvious thing and hold the tower but let’s SUBVERT those expectations with our super brilliant alternate plan.” It would’ve made sense if they defended the tower until it was breached and then had a escape path while bringing the tower down on the Orcs. These writers write themselves into corners time and time again
I still don't get how they managed to survive
This is why I have always said that sometimes it’s alright to use tropes. It’s ok to do it because there’s a reason they became tropes. People like having a big battle scene with the good guys defending the castle against faceless monsters. The fact that it’s in a castle kinda helps the brain rationalize that with planning a small number of heroes can defeat a large number of baddies. But then to say nope the castle sucks let’s go to the super open village because reasons. Well then your brain is just thinking the whole time “why don’t the bad guys just surround the whole thing and all walk forwards until all the good guys are dead?
@@bcfb21 The thing is... Defending a castle with a small amount of people isn't a "movie/story trope", it's historical FACT. If it makes the most sense, let your protagonists defend a castle!
If you have dragons or something that would nullify a castle it could realistically shake things up (like in HotD when the sea folks go inro the cliff caves to prevent the dragons from attacking them). But this? It just hurts...
You seem to labor under the suspicion that this show is episodically written?
Because I have heard - though I have not yet been able to isolate the actual recording - that the show was written in one sitting and not revised.
@@generalerica4123 Yup it's first draft bad. That's why there are so many plot holes. They didn't have any quality control or revisions or editors with an ounce of functioning brains. IDIOTS!
The sad part is that good fantasy battle scenes exist. Just look at The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. It has an amazing fantasy battle scene. Rings of Power is just...sad.
Loved the first Narnia movie. I love somebody talking about the battle scene, it had the right amount of chaotic nature to it, considering it was war between two chaotic mushes of fantasy races that weren't that used to warfare, and you could even get yourself looking at somewhat legit tactics you could have thought of without a deep knowledge of what could magic do in that universe. Yet, both sides looked like taking things seriously, like they both tried to coordinate their efforts despite their chaotic nature to get the upper hand. So even if things devolved into lots of 1v1 fights and similar things, it feels natural.
Filming good fights and battles is an exhausting process wich is so hard to make, let alone nail, we have to cherish those times it actually is achieved.
Really sad RoP fumbles at it.
The cheetahs *alone* in Chronicles of Narnia had more weight and dramatic impact to their combat than most of the ROP stuff.
@@Zombiewithabowtie considering that speed is the only thing what cheetah have
Even bad fantasy movies from that time had better battle scenes than this; the Eragon movie had a better battle scene than this.
I wish he could review that battle.
Many reviewers (genuine, competent reviewers) have stated that characters are only as intelligent as the writer creating them. That should tell you everything.
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It's not hard to make characters smarter than you since you know everything they need to have seen to reach the conclusions that will make them seem smart. I'd argue it's a lot more to do with laziness than anything intelligence related on the writers part which I'd also argue is more damning than they're just dumb.
@@definitelyadarkangel9225 This is absolutely true, with time you or me could write amazing mind bending books because we have the luxury of doing perfectly in a book what we would not be able to think of in the moment. my mind thinks of all the memes about people alone in the shower coming up with the perfect counter to an argument they had with someone a year ago.
Shad’s righteous anger gives me life.
Currently wallowing with a severe head cold, feels like death but hearing Shad shout in unabashed wrath is just bliss.
Facetanking a pyroclastic flow is probably the least bitter pill to slow.
@@taddad2641
At this point considering how little magic is used it would be an utter arsepull to bring magic that could stand in the way of a volcanic eruption.
Pyroclastic flow is no joke. On top of being as hot as you’d expect a volcanic eruption to be it’s also a gargantuan amount of heavy molten (or semi molten) matter being propelled with inexorable force.
It’s hot, it’s heavy and it’s being launched with incredible force.
@@taddad2641 Magic in the LoTR is not harry potter magic. Or at the least it shouldn't be.
@@bananasaur5209 exactly, its intoantions and prayers to the spirits of nature or eru himself to do something, it is channeling reality to your will by praying to it, proof of it is the moment at caradhras where saruman called upon the mountain itself to awaken the "blood horn" (if i am correct) while gandalf tried to ask of him to lay low and remain asleep, but the storm suffocated his words, hence why the peak fell.
At first glance, I thought you said “severed head cold” 🤣. Also, I assume that meant to say “pill to swallow”?
@@brobafett21
… yyyyes.
The tower falls apart pretty much like a building that is being professionally demolitioned with explosive changes. So they looked at references, but for the wrong thing.
The tower clearly is an allegory for WTC Building 7...
why they did not destroy one of the many bridges that lead to the tower and stay and defend it while they will figure out something, and just said well lets just go to the undefended village in a open area and just accept we are completely morons?
i guess i know the answer cause the writers are completely morons themselves...
Should have had a dwarf builder.
Also although shad keeps calling the “scaffolding” wood it’s obviously supposed to be steel. The top piece is obviously steel, and the “scaffolding “ is the same material when looking at as a whole.
Destroying the metal structure that supported the tower would be more difficult than just rocks.
I think it’s kinda funny how they were trying to say that this was some epic battle on the scale of Helms Deep, but it was more like when Merry and Pippin escape from the orcs in The Two Towers.
“We saved the Southlands!! Woooo! All 50 of them!”
The people of Southlands could and did fit in a tiny village's tavern and it wasn't even crowded.
that is TV to you, 60 million TV but still... xD
Wow it really is like tried to remake the battle of Helms Deep but with not even a smidgen of talent or ability. LOL. This is just so pathetic.
@@poilboiler it 100% is, that is why galadriel arrives at the first light just like gandalf did in the battle for helms deep.
just put the "Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east." over it...
the whole "evil can not creat, it can only corrupt" comes back to mind... it was true all along!
No I’ll even say it was on comparison with the battle at the end of the fellowship in terms of SCALE. Like oh yeah this is a small skirmish and then theyre talking about it like it’s this epic final battle and it’s like ‘well no’ the sad thing is is that it was more believable in fellowship that a two men, a elf, a dwarf and four hobbits could do battle with a company of Orcs than this army of peasants led by a healer
Man the Orks and Urks must have learned a lot between this show and Shadow of Mordor because they were all armed in that game.
i once went to fight an Orc captain, and he called in another, who called in another, until i was fighting 6 captains and too many orcs all at once. i managed to kill one before they overwhelmed me.
@@CaedusX see. They even understood the use of overwhelming forces which these Orks thought, "well ten out of our thousands sounds like a good enough for the tip of the spear."
The Orks of Shadow of Mordor had already defeated all the inhabitants of Middle Earth.
@@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947?
51:30 Btw Shad there is a major artery in the shoulder area. That arrow could have hit her left Subclavian artery which runs under the Clavicle (collar bone) and carries blood through the arm.
This is in no way meant to defend any part of this scene or this show, just to share some knowledge. Great video and keep up the good work!
Did the arrow pierce her scapula? I genuinely can't tell from the positioning in the shots.
I get that Elves are more acrobatic and can pull of some crazy stuff but Galadriel twisting on her horse looks like she broke every bone in her body to do it seriously she’s wearing armour and she’s twisting like she’s got no bones
Yah, it didn't even look cool, just awkward. If she dodged the arrow, cut the orcs head off and then jumped off the horse and sword landed on another orc, that would have been cool
Yeah but the armor is made of rubber and plastic, can't you tell.
why even dodge a arrow from a cheap orc bow if you wear high quality elven/numenorian armor? i mean it lacks a helmet so did he aim for the head? are orcs suddenly snipers again? they only seem to miss if they tried to kill the token elve!
if he had aimed for the only not armor covered place - > the head < - she wouldn´t have had to make such a huge move to avoid it in the first place.
nothing makes sence, it is ONLY supposed to look cool but it fails to do eevn that!
The horse stunt is pretty ordinary for horse volting (Gymnastics on horseback), we had girls at my highschool 20 years ago that did this kind of stunts all the time. The scene looks stupid because of the exploding orc and bad editing. The stunt coordination is ok, but the editing is horrible, in this case.
Plenty of bad fight coordination and stunt coordination elsewere..
I'm more irritated by her ability to cause orcs to explode by barely tapping them with a sword. Without magic.
This makes Aragorn look like a military genius at Helm's Deep.
Totally agree. At least the battle of the hornburg is a believable assault and defense of a “castle”, despite the hornburg’s flaws as a fortress.
@Steven Novak One thing I just couldn't understand was why, when the Uruks rushed through the wall he would give them one volley, and after that when they still had the advantage of range, not keep firing but drop their bows and run towards the enemy. Instead of looking epic and cinematic, it looked inexplicably idiotic.
I love watching Shads videos and Kramer's over on living anarchism.
Shad is like: This is crap they can't even fight.
Kramer is like: This is crap they can't even direct.
Can you link that second channel?
@@albertofernandez2490 youtube.com/@LivingAnachronism
I think you're confusing anacrischism with anarchism.
One is a blending of modern and past ideas and material cultures, this is Kramer, what Kramer does. the other is a form of leadership philosophy which proposes that committees of effected parties should form to solve issues as they arrive, anarchy was a legitimately proposed line of political thought in the wake of the 1st world war where it was felt that poor depictions from the leadership of the day caused the war, and caused excessive casualties during the war. Anarchisim is not anarchy it is decentralised leadership and descsion making by way of committees formed of the citizens concerned.
It's 3:28 a.m. and I'm watching a grown man with a sword rant about how unrealistic the combat scenes in a FANTASY TV show about ORCS, HOBBITS, ELVES and whatnot are and I'm here for it all. What has my life come to?
There's "It's fiction, there's orks" and then there's "The writers have an average IQ of 87 and nothing about any of this makes any fuckin sense because that's not enough IQs to form a coherent narrative"
Something you’re not asking Shad, that you should ask yourself is this, how did the Numenoreans know, the Orcs were attacking a village, which village it was, and where the village was at?
The Numenoreans ride like they’re headed for a battle to rescue people in a village, before it’s too late.
However, with what they know, they should be cautiously headed toward the Watchtower, the last known destination for the Orcs, according to Halbrand, assessing the situation, size and fortifications of the Orcs as they travel, not riding full gallop to save the Southland humans from Orcs.
The audience knows this is happening, but the Numenoreans shouldn’t, unless they had access to read the script.
Also, if the Numenoreans went to the watchtower prior to going to the village, why didn’t they leave a few men there to secure that location so they would have a fall back point, and an area to stage from where troop movements could be seen, if needed, that would’ve also prevented, Baldrick dude from releasing the dam.
If the writing in this show were a membrane, it would have a very high permeability.
Yeah he raised this point in the review over on Knights Watch
they may have seen it from afar like galadriel is an elf so I think it's sort of plausible, not sure if there's a good like of sight to the village though because of the camera
But the Numenoreans had to show up like the riders of Rohan did at the battle of helms deep (then again at pelennor field)
Thanks for commenting this. I was about to rewatch a few episodes to see if I missed anything since the Numenoreans and Guyladriel seemed to come to the rescue on time.
Am I the only person that noticed the vanishing spears? as soon as the cavalry charge across the bridge, the spears vanish never to be seen again. No spears in dead bodies, No spears in scenery, & no numenoreans are carrying them anymore. They disappear & everyone just uses swords. Magic.
It's hard to see details with your palm permanently planted on your forehead.
At this point, I'm looking at background characters to see if any of them are playing on their phones.
It's like the whole theme of this show is "it doesn't matter. We'll fix it later."
I guess Halbrand had need for them all to conjure the mighty spearthrow that killed one orc
In the next episode Mt Doom blows everyone’s helmets off never to be seen again lol
The fact that the length of this battle fight scene autopsy video is actually longer than the length of the episode itself says a lot….
Let's be fair, a *lot* of this is Shad's own conjecture. Reading Adar's facial expressions? Really?
@@Draezeth I don't think you understand what the word conjecture means. How can it be conjecture when it's literally what's on the screen?
Your autopsies are incredible, thanks!
"i know we have a castle with fortified walls, and a high tower perfect for our amazing archery skills, but wouldn't it be better to give up all that to fight in close quarters within a small town?"
"What will you think of next? Trying to slap an orc to death?"
"...Actually...that might work..."
There are many ways to kill an orc.
@@walkir2662 some of them are considered unnaturally
@@roylichtenstein8871 How can I learn this power?
@@professorx3060 not from a man...
Hey why kill people with weapons when we can open hand slap them and leave them alive! Literally half the fight scenes that matter in this episode! LOL
Shad, you are providing a service to humanity in convincing us not to watch the dung put out by Netflix or Amazon. For that, I thank you.
Thanks, i was undecided and shads videos made my mind
Amen to that.
I'd say he's providing a service to humanity by taking absolute trash and using it to make hilariously entertaining videos.
@@jackmcslay Reuse and Recycle.
I lost braincells watching this and now I literally can't comprehend stuff that would considered normal
Also, don't forget about the bridge in the elf outpost. The bridge was already a bottle neck, but, more importantly, the door was even tinier than the bridge, which was a bottleneck of a bottleneck. So it makes that much more sense to give it up.
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Shad, I love you...dont let this show give you an aneurism. You're far more valuable!!!
@1:04:19 I'm impressed that the numenoreans had the foreseight to bring trick riding saddles with them into battle. What she does isn't impossible, but you need a specialist designed saddle to do it, it is however super impractical to do on a battlefield. At least when Galadriel heads back to the elf lands and ends her quest, she might have a future on the Rodeo scene.
Pretty sure various groups of plains Indian are documented as doing these kinds of feats in battle (dodging arrows and so forth in battle).
She founded the middle earth fabulous circus and appears there as contortionist on horseback in her spare time, don't you know?
It's the main plot of the upcoming RoP spin-off. 🤣🤣
@@Kefka. 1. Any evidence?
2. Do your Indians use medieval saddles?
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@@Kefka. It assumes that groups of Plains Indians have perfect vision good enough to see arrows coming at them & can dodge in time.
The sword hilt was the key to Sauron's infinite cobblestone creator, he did it in a really roundabout way though
Yeah he was doing the basics for a skyblock
I enjoyed this so much more than when I actually watched the show!
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To be fair if the seemingly defensible tower is the kind that might be brought down on my head by a single random arrow-hit, I think I'd take my chances with making a stand in the village (or better yet, running away) too. :P
I love this. I want to write a perfectly awful story for Shad just so I can watch a reasonable person loose their shit over purposely terrible storytelling
Even if you tried your worst, you'd still do a better job. Take, for example, Space Balls. It's a purposefully disjointed, inconsistent parody, yet it somehow manages to be classier than this amazon series. The type of "bad" that smart people make is inherently better than the type of "good" that bad people make.
@@r3dp9 I would animate a dead Celeborn but his legs were so decayed he learn to walk by using the polyps from his prolapsed anus…of course he would need a catchy catch phrase to satiate his vengeance now his wife is such a bitch
lose*
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 I’m typing on a phone but a typo is what gets your goat?
Lol
Just as the scrolls have foretold. Here he comes with a vengeance.
And he speaks naught but *the truth*
For duration of whole video i was wondering, who will win, Shad or stupid. I think Shad came on top...but at great cost.😁
I bought your audiobook today and I'm going to get stuck in while I walk around. Thanks for creating things! Your efforts are appreciated.
I love the breakdowns a lot and your energy and knowledge is infectious!! Thank you for cutting past the overtly gross parts and also just thanks for how entertaining you made this educational video. It's honestly just a really good example of you as a channel haha. Wonderful content
Fans: Do you know where the Númenóreans would have to be in order to have the sunrise behind them during their charge?
Payne & McKay: Um, east, I guess?
Fans: Do you know where Númenor is in relation to Mordor?
Payne & McKay: Uh. . .
Fans: So are you trying to tell me that these trained warriors wasted an entire evening riding around the enemy to be more dramatic?
Payne & McKay: The fact that you're asking these questions is patently evil.
no, the orks just took so long breaking that door down the sun was setting.
@@rhettbrown6341 Remember when orc battering rams could destroy giant castle gates?
Because the show runners don't.
@@carljohan9265 that is in the future where they have better tech.
@@meangenec1 better tech? It’s a battering ram, it’s not high tech. Heavy thing smashes into other thing.
Your poor attempt at excusing lazy storytelling because of confirmation bias has cost you 1000000 social credit. Glory to the CCPPP
Couldn't Adar simply have walked himself into the village (less scary than an Orc) and told the villagers that the volcano was about to erupt, to convince them to leave without a fight ?
I still can't believe they have a character who's name translates to Father.
@@AJStarhiker Well if the Orcs think he is their father... but then the weird thing is they'd use an Elvish name instead of calling him "Father" in Black Speech.
One does not simply walk into Mordor
@@esquilax5563 Indeed. One rides horses into Mordor.
Congrats, you just broke the entire plot for this series first season, you are smart then a room full of writers who acquire a billion to make this shit.
Plot armor LITTERALLY DISARMED this orc 42:00, and that is why plot armor is best armor. Never go into battle without plot armor. ❤
1:14:24
Horse riding expert here,
Ive been on horseback jumping hitting solid wooden beams, given yes they were stationary, that would knock the wooden beam flying and my horse would not care at all. Once again these wooden beams are made to fall quickly for everyone's safety. But I've had less safe jumps during cross country events.
To answer your question, can you trip a horse with such a spear the size of a broom stick? No, spears counter horses because you can put the backside of the spear in the ground/dirt behind you and then aim it towards the charging horse. This will most likely break the spear but also put the shaft into the horse's chest given it has no armor to deflect the tip.(this horse no armor aim it at its chest, even though this would still break your hand if you hold it like that and dont lock it on the saddle)
A human holding the spear like that in front of a charging horse...? If deffo not Sauron was not Sauron he would 1 break his hand if he attempted to hold on to that spear and 2 the spear would be flying off/break by the speed and momentum of the horse and 3 if this horse had eyes and saw a spear come swinging towards it it would pull up its hooves / jump............ there is too much wrong with this I could go on longer but ill finish here.
edit: RoP logic charging horse can trample human but not stick gg
Shad's pedantic rants about the internal logistics of a fantasy story rivals that of the Professor himself. Call that Big Tolkien Energy.
I love that Shad was so blown away by the guy having swords and still picking up an orcish sword to fight that he didn't notice that YOU COULD SEE THE DAMN PRINT OF THE "SCALE MAIL" DOESN'T FULLY COVER THE SHIRT IT'S PRINTED ON! IT'S SCALE-LESS UNDER THE DAMN ARMPITS!
It is called Visual Stupid Overload. It's when there is so much dumb happening all at once that the human brain can no longer take it all in without assistance.
It was probably what he was going to mention before the weapons that he was carrying on his belt and refusing to use were pointed out to him.
That´s not scale mail, it is a romboid gambeson underneath the scale mail to keep with the visual cohesivity. But yeah, their gambeson were unfinish, which is cheap as shit.
@@mytotim8978 actually its a t shirt
Hey Shad, there could be an even simpler gripe to destroy all of the orc scenes. Being that they are creatures of the dark, shouldn't the orcs be adept at moving and fighting in the dark with no fire at all?
Let's be honest though. That huge Orc beating the shit out of Don Lemonlas was one of the most satisfing things that we saw on this show.
Who would win (Fight Scene Autopsy?)
- Two great armies clashing against one another with all the money Amazon can throw their way?
- A bunch of Targaryen kids having a scrap in a hallway?
The answer is more surprising than you’d think. 😂
I´m waiting for the hallway autopsy
yeah, me.
???
My money says neither. The real winner is 500 men, elderly, and boys with a few hundred elves fighting against tens of thousands of orcs for an entire night.
@@spiffygonzales5160 And in the book they didn't have the elves...
I can't wait for the final episode where Galadriel jumps her horse over a swimming pool full of sharks and crashes into Arnold's fried chicken stand. Gonna be epic!
I've been following your channel for years but never had seen this series of videos (the autopsies), I must say I love when you scream in rage and shock at the stupid writing, it's funny and also manifests how I feel too. Keep bringing this content I love it! House of the dragon has moronic scenes like this too
Legolas (though I love him) was always discount. Stabbing through an uruk-hai face with a handheld arrow, shield surfing, shooting iron chain links to break them, climbing arrows stuck in an oliphant, shooting through the base of the skull of said oliphant, etc... I would say Arondir's shenanigans are on brand 😂
Yesss. But he's so pretty 🥺 ( PJ's Legolas, I mean)
Didn't he have a magic bow and string though? I think in the books they talked about him getting these gifts from Galadriel. Also, Elfs had inhuman agility and dexterity, and were so light they could run on top of snow (thus not leaving tracks) and do things that were impossible for humans to do.
You know, but when they were making Legolas scenes, they put more thought into making it, like instead of it being "Hey this looks cool, lets do it." it was more like "Okay, we need to make this unrealistic, but cool moment. This moment still has to make sense, and not be just "Are you taking this seriously" moment". With DL, its more like "Hey it looks cool, lets do it!".
Arrow through Uruk's face part, arrow tip is sharp, and you can stab with it. The whole "Oliphant climbing", i dont know if i remember it right, but wasnt there a spear deeply cut inside the oliphant that Legolas used as ladder? That and Tolkien's elves are more athletic and i would say more agile, considering they can jump this high with their weight
Why does everyone criticize the shield surfing so hard? Is it realistic or possible? No is it cool? Yes, unlike ANYTHING this show has put out, I can't believe you even consider legolas anywhere near the same level as this crap
Can we all take a moment to appreciate Shad’s “news hair?” That hair is TOP notch. The height! The hold! The shine!
Conan would be proud
Some would say its... Salon quality.
wish i had hair :|
@@jamespruitt4756 i feel you brother!
or at least a well distributed beard growth to compensate for the lack on top...^^
Johnny Bravo
It makes me weirdly happy to hear that they're working on season 2 because that means we get to see more entertaining videos of Shad going nuts. Im just worried about his blood pressure!
Keep it up my man!
you mean the blood pressure?
As there was so much nonsense in the RINGS OF POWER,partway through the autopsy,I stopped watching the background shots & started watching Shad,instead.I’ve never done that for any show.
good, more stuff for us to rip appart
Don't know if it has yet, but wanted to address Shad's inquiry about the arterial bleeding. Yes, in the shoulder area is a major artery call the axillary artery which is the main blood supply to the arm. If severed, you can pass out from the bleeding in 15 seconds, and bleed out in just about a couple minutes. The blood loss is accurate if that was the case. Although they make the same mistake like Halo did with cauterization. She would likely lose the arm even if done properly (blood supply), but they basically just sealed the outside of the wound without actually stopping the bleeding; the artery is still severed.
Shad, this is a marvelous blend of scientific analysis, outrage and humor. Wonderful video and stay on the attack Amazon Slime to defend JRRT!
Let's not forget that orks canonically have excellent night vision so they shouldn't need any torches even in a dark night. The only time they'd actually need torches is when they want to set something on fire.
I thought they relied more on smell and hearing, but the point still stands. Orcs canonically don’t need light sources in the dark.
Right? I guess maybe for intimation to show how powerful their army is. Yeah idk.
That's what I thought. Like, if orks are so sensitive to light, don't all those torches blind and bother them more than they help?
@@richardmetzler7909 Well technically speaking the orks aren't sensitive to light per se. They are sensitive to sunlight. And that's because in this age the sun is actually the last remnant of the last fruit of Laurelin guided across the sky in a vessel steered by the Maia Arien. Now that's a lot of unfamiliar words for someone not familiar with lotr lore. So let's start simple:
Laurelin and Telperion were two sacred trees created by the Valar (think: goddes) Yavanna. They were her greatest creation, one that could never be recreated if ever destroyed. Laurelin shone with golden light and Telperion shone with silver light. And their light waxed and waned in a seven hour rythm and their lgiht served as the lightsource for all of arda (the world). However, Morgoth became jealous of yavannas creation, enlistd the help of the giant spider ungoliant and together raided the golden land and destroyed Laurelin and Telperion. Yavanna, aided by nienna tried to resurect the trees but they only managed to reviving Telperions last flower and laurelins last fruit. And those became the moon and the sun respectivly.
Arien is a maiar, essentially a lesser god or maybe you could call her an angel. She was tasked with guiding the last fruit of laurelin across the sky so that it's last (rather weak compared to the full bloom of laurelin) light may illuminate all of arda. And it's her gaze that's actually hurting all the beings of morgoth which isn't only orks. As a sidenote, The last flower of Telperion was given to another maiar named Tilion to illuminate the night. But Tilion was actually deeply (and completly one sided) in love with Arien which is why he sometimes comes out before his appointed time to chase after arien and be near her. And that is why you sometimes can see the sun and the moon in the sky at the same time. This is also why in the lord of the rings the sun is always refered to as "she" and the moon as "he" after the gender of both the trees and the maiar guiding them. Also, the reason why Tilions gaze is not burning morgoths creatures is because he only has eyes for arien.
@@tranquilthoughts7233
"The Moon doesn't kill the orcs because he's distracted"
It takes a special kind of genius to write something that causes someone to say this, mean it, and be completely on board with it.
That back slap had me rolling 🤣
Is this show supposed to be like Monty Python or something?
"On second thoughts, let us not go to the Southlands. It is a silly place."
"Did you ride here after sailing from Númenór?"
"Yes!"
"You're using coconuts!"
"... What?"
"You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're banging them together!"
Don't you love how they rode with the sun rising behind their backs, in the West? Or did they take the time to ride around to the other side?
I loved your book, Shad. Looking forward to the sequel.
"Discount Legolas"
gets me every time XD
love it!!!
im partial to "Don Lemonlas" from Nerdrotic
Love the line Shad said that Galadriel survives not because she's in Lord of the Rings but because she's in the preview trailer for the next episode LMAO
This show? To be fair they could kill her and resurrect her, it does happen to elves. Ladriel the White.
Makes since. This is a completely different character after all
@@Kale13000 sense* and... no it isn't?
@@sorin_markov The point is that they wrote her badly enough to make it feel like it was a different character altogether
That's because she's not in LotR. This bitch will never be able to become Cate Blanchett level Galadriel. She's just never gonna change.
I salute you for all your sacrifices!
I love your fight scene autopsies, and I just have to say that I would be absolutely enthralled to see you cover the final duel from Rob Roy. From what I can tell, it is one of the more practically sound sword fights in cinema, but I would love to see how it holds up to someone with your experience.
The other thing about the tower... apparently, the Elves had occupied it for nearly 80 years, but never cleaned the place up or took more than a cursory look around the place.
Exactly!!! Elves were made completely incompetent... absolute disgrace...
One batch of quick lime poured down the sword keyhole (broadcast to anyone who saw the instruction mural) would've shagged Saurons entire plan.
@@jamiemunn9200 Elves were made completely incompetent... As opposed to?
They also can't spot the orcs building an enormous trench and burning an entire forest. So much for the keen eyes of elves...
The thing I hate about the keyhole for the sword...it's on the ground. It's been there for a very long time with no cover. That thing would be filled with dirt and grim and mud. That sword would never fit inside, let alone turn it
If Arondir knew it was the keyhole that the enemy wanted to use, he should have done this himself. Fill it with dirt, maybe cast some metal inside, damage the hole... Then hide or destroy the mural, and hide the keyhole with vine and leaves. Maybe tell the villagers to use this spot as latrines before leaving...
Also, if he knew that the sword was the key, maybe he could have tried to destroy it, failed, and decided to swim or row to the middle of the lake, and toss the sword hilt in the lake ? Not as safe as destroying it, but surely better than keeping it with them...
Naaah. See you're wrong. Adar would have brought an air compressor with him. An 80 gallon big boy 220volt one. The Mordor80 max air. not one of those wimpy 30 gallon 120v Numenorian home units. And blown all of it out with a compressed air nozzle. Or some key board blaster if all else failed.
So no one there even bother to investigate it?
@@nicklab1927 That would require a functioning brain. Clearly his character doesn't have one and is only useful for action sequences or to be saved by 'strong woman florist!' when in danger!
We've had CGIing out a knife.
Now we have (failing to) CGIing *in* a knife!
We truly have come full circle
Delightful, hilarious, well informed content 👌 10 out of 10
Bless you, Shad!! Your pain and suffering in the midst of this disaster is evident 😭
0:15 i guess Shad doesn't know elves have the mightiest battle technique, the Bro Back Slap of Doom
the amount of anger and frustration transmitted through my screen fuels my day. Thank you
Really happy for you. That whole author thing of your's seems to work out pretty well!
1:05:21
"He's got swords on him!"
"You're right!"
I don't know why Shad's delivery of that line killed me, but I keep replaying it, and it's still one of his funniest moments.
And in answer to your question at 1:12:56 "Can she not dodge anything without dismounting?"
I think the answer would be "No she can't! Do you have any idea how long it took us to train the actress to pull off that move! We didn't hire anyone who actually knew how to write or choreograph, so we're keeping our competent horse-rider trainers locked up in the basement until they give us at least 3 times the stunts they'd normally do!"
What move? Look again at the cuts, all she does us cock a leg before it's a two cut pass for the rest of the action. One for down and one for back up. Horrible.
That was the best.
I burst in laught when he said "you bleeding astronomical moron. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!"
Dude the behind the scenes video for this battle is hilarious. The person directing everything that happens is a 66 year old Womyn who does that thing where they stick their nose up and speak gently like they have centuries experience. She's like, "Yeah our goal was to give Bronwyn her chance to shine", and that's how you got her slaying orcs and being in charge and being killed but not dying and healed the next episode. Lmao
What a delight of captured time.
Great video, haven't laughed that much in a long time 😂. Also everything you brought up seems very reasonable.
I thought for sure Episode 6 had to have been a dream based on that ending. Surely that was her seeing her death to the volcano unless she acted to prevent it. But, nope, episode 7 confirmed shes just invincible. I mean we were told that fire doesn't work on evil so maybe everyone left is evil and just the good people died.
I lost it when Valandil barehand tackled the orc from his horse, even allowing for the continuity error with his sword. He clearly had his dagger in both versions, which would have been the perfect weapon to use for that incredibly risky manoeuvre.
The volcano rant might be my favourite Shad rant ever.
The Volcano part is just so stupid
Fire Resistance has reached 100
You have gained Fire Immunity
Fire Proficiency increased to 85
Your Fire attribute spells now deal 50% more damage
Burn time increased by 45 seconds
You will now survive any Fire based attack
You will now be able to walk and be submerged in lava
You have leveled up
You have leveled up
You have leveled up
LOVE THIS
XD
Shad raging at the stupidity of the fight choreography broken down bit by bit is amazing. Thank you Shad for the proper roasting of Amazon's most expensive TV show ever!
Awesome video, as always!!! Was actually taken aback when I heard Michael Kramer narrating that bit in the beginning. Listening to him narrate Wheel of Time, and he is so good! :O )
"Any idiot can build a tower, but only an elven engineer can build one that only BARELY stands" - paraphrased from Real Civil Engineer
The embarrassing thing is, my father and sister gush about how good this show is every time I talk to them.
I feel your pain bro
Barely standing is one thing, but barely standing for over a thousand years before falling on a hair trigger is impressive.
sounds like you were adopted.
Get a new family
I'd like to add Shad missed the fact that as the initial shockwave from the magical eruption hits everything is sent flying apart from the food on the tables. Just a tiny detail I found incredibly amusing to top it all off.
... but but it's enchanted food! You see, this is a reference to [completely made-up bullshit]
Elven food why do you even care kids show etc etc
Ah that is not in this video?
Yesssss I've been waiting for this
Man you got one of the best narrators for your book. Great job man!
I'd like to underline that the stabbing move in this world is a special attack used to kill Orcs, that is known only by galadriel and her students, so the Orc in 1:07:38 couldn't use it.
He hadn't unlocked it yet. Should've leveled up more.
@@bananasaur5209 He didn’t have enough dragon souls to purchase that skill yet anyway.
With every episode, this show makes Peter Jackson's masterpieces shine ever brighter.
Amen. Long live the books and the Jackson directed films.
Yeah, but did Peter Jackson have $1 billion budget?
@@johnsmith361 No. That's the point.
And the hobbit trilogy look good(they're not but compared to this they are a masterpiece).
That's because Peter Jackson was trying to do a decent job and wanted to make it as realistic as a fantasy story could be made
Obryn Martell VS The Mountain from GOT would be a good one. I’m far from an expert, but it appears pretty valid. Some minor unnecessary spinning, but I have a hard time finding fault with the rest
@@chillyavian7718 exactly. And I’m not talking about the lil show he puts on before the fight. That was clearly for the crowds entertainment
There is a pretty good fight in this movie I saw a while ago. It's called The King or something about a kid who's brother is going to become king but he's a total wuss. They have a 1v1 fight instead of a giant battle and it's over pretty quickly and I remember it being realistic enough to be quite shocking. None of the get stabbed and keel over instantly, or stand there making a stupid face with frozen body nonsense
The unnecessary spinning was Oberyn being cocky on purpose. It was that very thing that got him killed.
@@johns1625 The King was an awful movie, that duel looked so fake, it was hard to watch. They did a better version of a gritty knight duel in The Last Duel.
God damn this was a good video..well done Shad 😤
Shad continually offers his health as payment to review RoP... all for our entertainment. What a man.
I really want to know who they had as stunt coordinator. Because either they were totally unfamiliar with depicting medieval style combat, or we're neutered by the production for the sake of pre planned story "beats".
They spent the budget for the stunt coordinator on the intimacy coach for that brief scene where Guyladrial and Not-Sauron have a brief heart to heart chat.
1:19:00 The key hole remaining unobstructed all that time and the sword key not getting lost in all that time is definitely improbable
I finished your book and it was amazing. I loved it.
I just realized that I am literally watching Shad in a slow descent into insanity. He might break, if not this season: likely next.
yeah, I think the next season is probably going to be even worse, for one they have a smaller budget and also they are rushing it
@@frantisekstehlik6888 In a way it might be a forte. It might get to the point where it is so bad it can be watched ironically. For now it is just a blend of facepalmingly dumb and boring.
I'm looking forward your tactics on how to defend against a volcanic eruption!
Tungsten skin
Ah.. I got 50+yrs of defending against volcanic eruptions
Here's my 💯 guaranteed to work top tip.
Don't live near one.
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
another great video,good job you are doing great
Watched this again as I showed it to a couple of friends, still hilarious seeing Shad's reactions to the ridiculous things in that episode.
So I know it’s been a while, but I did want to update Shad on the situation. A while back I commented asking Shad to review the “Fortified Whiterun” Skyrim mod. It directly states that his videos on Whiterun were the inspiration for the mod which fixes the medieval inaccuracies. Since then in the Work In Progress section of the mod page for Skyrim Xbox (what I play on) there is also Fortified Riften and Fortified Windhelm. I’d love to see Shad’s reaction to these mod, as a student of Shad I can confirm…there are…indeed…MACHICOLATIONS
Neat
No there is not. There's no machicolations liar. Only hoardings.
@@Madmax45247 on the Windhelm one I swear I saw machicolations
@@Madmax45247 so the ones on Riften were removed but Windhelm definitely has 3 sets of machicolations. Keep in mind that Riften and Windhelm are still WiP and subject to change
@@ryanalex4671 Honestly doesn't make sense for them to have machicolations in the first place. They're supposed to look like Norse castles from the early middle ages. Machicolations weren't even a thing back then.
I dunno what's worse. The heat from a pyroclastic cloud... Or the BURN from this EPIC video.
Well done Shad. This is akin to Fingolfin inflicting ONE mortal wound to Melkor.
We must continue to rail against this abomination.
"You attempt to stab the orc in the side with your dagger. But instead gently caress his back."
Most of the orcs, humans, and elves make the storm troopers during the Rebellion vs the Empire within Star Wars from the old movies look like sharpshooters.