My second ever production, I had constant rewrites-big rewrites-right up to day 1 of shooting. I thought I was going to go insane. It was a real baptism of fire. Looking back on it now, it was a painful but very useful experience.
@@southlondon86 We had to drop and change characters early on, yes. On a couple of mornings, during the shoot, they wanted scenes substantially reduced because of time constraints 🤯
@@GrandSlamSilverI have discovered that some of the best writers have only a rough idea of where their stories are going. That includes Elmore Leonard and Patricia Highsmith. Highsmith said she only planned one chapter ahead of the chapter she was working on and her only rewrite was a line edit.
Though I’m unpublished, this is my process. I need the first scene to be mastered (not perfected) before I move to the next one. A lot of people say to write the story, then refine the dialogue and actions. But for me, if the dialogue and actions aren’t set, then the story isn’t being tokd
@@travisjacobson2334 I know Wilder operated the way he did because he said if you change scene one later on, it sets in motion a cascade of effects through the rest of the story that you then have to deal with. If a story is a house, you need to build a secure foundation before you can work on the floors above.
@@familycorvettethis is how I write literary novels. But it doesn't work nearly as well for screenplays, which are much more tightly constructed and leave much less wiggle room. I don't attempt a script these days without at least writing about four Word pages with what I expect to happen... this does often change as I write though.
The trouble is you can write an almost perfect script and then the producer, director, and actors get their say and it is not always a good say. I had a director change 75% of my script without even consulting me. And it bombed. A producer friend had a script where the main female character was a mom. And then they got this semi-famous actress to play the role and she demanded they change her character because she felt she was too young (late 20s) to be a mother. So they made the daughter into her younger sister. On another movie during shooting the director wrote and inserted scenes so the main actor got more screen time. The scenes didn't fit well and if he had only asked me to do that I might have been able to fix it better.
This is definitely an excellent perception of configuring thought processes and free writing. I, however, can't write, or should I say produce, a pattern of storytelling with collaboration on paper, but I have been trying for a long time! I have a story based on true events with factual people over the years. ( people who had books that were written about them and held High ranking in organized crime that were on the bunk right under me, along with others that were never known to the public; however, they still have fascinating stories) I have been looking for the right person to help me, to no avail. What I need is to put it in a readable, comprehensive context! When I tell people my story, they say the same thing: It is unbelievable that it's true and should be told!! (They were aware of my situation.) My answer is that I can only express myself verbally. Communication is the main thing that has helped me to excel in life. Or should I say keep me alive? Verbal communication was necessary for my survival throughout my entire life. I know I talked too much, and the subject was writing, But that's just it. He gave me a better understanding! Thank you. moments ronald reeves
All sounds reasonable until you take a movie or episode of TV, eliminate the dialogue and the m&e audio, and then dub in new dialogue and m&e to complete the movie or TV episode. Like Mario Bava did for The Day The Sky Exploded , you could simply take old material and treat it as stock footage and recut . . .
@@Wasthere73 story has nothing to do with it, a great story can be badly written just as a greatly written story can be ignored, just as many great films had their scripts rejected by many places before becoming classics.
@@Matt_Mosley1983 Blaming the audience because they're not xyz enough to get it is just cope for bad writing Keep in mind scripts being rejected is not necessarily because the readers couldn't "get it". There are a myriad of other factors that go into it, such as commercial viability.
@@Wasthere73 no, you just don't understand, I'm talking about scripts that went on to be big hits that were rejected all over the place for years first....Luke SQUID GAMES
@@ProphetVictory It would be highly illogical to base the totality of one's understanding on historical phenomena with no regard for chance or change. Live long and prosper.
Thanks Paul. Can I ask you wich is the process of your writing? What is your first step, from the moment you have the idea? For instance: write the meaning of your story, fill out character sheets, the outline for the hero's journey. Because I think there's a lot of confusion about it, or maybe there's more than one way to arrive at a good story that is not just writing down what comes to mind.
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My second ever production, I had constant rewrites-big rewrites-right up to day 1 of shooting. I thought I was going to go insane. It was a real baptism of fire. Looking back on it now, it was a painful but very useful experience.
Were they major rewrites, sir? I can’t imagine having to drop/add characters for example.
If you're rewriting it means it is not finished.
@@southlondon86 We had to drop and change characters early on, yes. On a couple of mornings, during the shoot, they wanted scenes substantially reduced because of time constraints 🤯
Billy Wilder wouldn't move on to scene two until he nailed scene one. After that, he didn't rewrite.
He’s a great writer, so I would assume that he already had an outline?
@@GrandSlamSilverI have discovered that some of the best writers have only a rough idea of where their stories are going. That includes Elmore Leonard and Patricia Highsmith. Highsmith said she only planned one chapter ahead of the chapter she was working on and her only rewrite was a line edit.
Though I’m unpublished, this is my process. I need the first scene to be mastered (not perfected) before I move to the next one.
A lot of people say to write the story, then refine the dialogue and actions.
But for me, if the dialogue and actions aren’t set, then the story isn’t being tokd
@@travisjacobson2334 I know Wilder operated the way he did because he said if you change scene one later on, it sets in motion a cascade of effects through the rest of the story that you then have to deal with. If a story is a house, you need to build a secure foundation before you can work on the floors above.
@@familycorvettethis is how I write literary novels. But it doesn't work nearly as well for screenplays, which are much more tightly constructed and leave much less wiggle room. I don't attempt a script these days without at least writing about four Word pages with what I expect to happen... this does often change as I write though.
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The trouble is you can write an almost perfect script and then the producer, director, and actors get their say and it is not always a good say. I had a director change 75% of my script without even consulting me. And it bombed. A producer friend had a script where the main female character was a mom. And then they got this semi-famous actress to play the role and she demanded they change her character because she felt she was too young (late 20s) to be a mother. So they made the daughter into her younger sister. On another movie during shooting the director wrote and inserted scenes so the main actor got more screen time. The scenes didn't fit well and if he had only asked me to do that I might have been able to fix it better.
This is definitely an excellent perception of configuring thought processes and free writing. I, however, can't write, or should I say produce, a pattern of storytelling with collaboration on paper, but I have been trying for a long time! I have a story based on true events with factual people over the years. ( people who had books that were written about them and held High ranking in organized crime that were on the bunk right under me, along with others that were never known to the public; however, they still have fascinating stories) I have been looking for the right person to help me, to no avail. What I need is to put it in a readable, comprehensive context! When I tell people my story, they say the same thing: It is unbelievable that it's true and should be told!! (They were aware of my situation.) My answer is that I can only express myself verbally. Communication is the main thing that has helped me to excel in life. Or should I say keep me alive? Verbal communication was necessary for my survival throughout my entire life. I know I talked too much, and the subject was writing, But that's just it. He gave me a better understanding! Thank you.
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All sounds reasonable until you take a movie or episode of TV, eliminate the dialogue and the m&e audio, and then dub in new dialogue and m&e to complete the movie or TV episode. Like Mario Bava did for The Day The Sky Exploded , you could simply take old material and treat it as stock footage and recut . . .
The hardest thing isn't writing the script well enough... It's getting a person with a good imagination to read it so they can see it as you do.
Imo this is a failure of the story.
@@Wasthere73 story has nothing to do with it, a great story can be badly written just as a greatly written story can be ignored, just as many great films had their scripts rejected by many places before becoming classics.
@@Matt_Mosley1983 Blaming the audience because they're not xyz enough to get it is just cope for bad writing
Keep in mind scripts being rejected is not necessarily because the readers couldn't "get it". There are a myriad of other factors that go into it, such as commercial viability.
Wrong mindset. It's your job to write a good enough script that things come across. I'd suggest reading more screenplays.
@@Wasthere73 no, you just don't understand, I'm talking about scripts that went on to be big hits that were rejected all over the place for years first....Luke SQUID GAMES
Measure twice cut once. Who says a script can't be right the first time?
history.
Opinions outside of self will confirm..
I’ve never heard of a script or a novel that didn’t have an editing phase.
@@ProphetVictory It would be highly illogical to base the totality of one's understanding on historical phenomena with no regard for chance or change. Live long and prosper.
@@wexwuthor1776 maybe you’re just looking for excuses not to do the work?
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Thanks Paul. Can I ask you wich is the process of your writing? What is your first step, from the moment you have the idea? For instance: write the meaning of your story, fill out character sheets, the outline for the hero's journey. Because I think there's a lot of confusion about it, or maybe there's more than one way to arrive at a good story that is not just writing down what comes to mind.