Resume: Holy Pala: broke af on one target healing ( Just best class on burst heal the tank, that's it) Shaman: Good at one target healing also group healing if you are smart on mana administration Holy Priest: Really good at group healing with nice habilities on some moments where only them can provide that efects (like mov speed) Resto Druid: Really good since they HoTs are nice, probably the helear you want in most situations when you have a Holy Priest or Shaman. Discipline priest: They are "special" since the shields they provide are the thing you need when the raid is fully of helers that can make overhealing THE CLASS YOU NEED when you are doing overhealing so much not the best, but they are playable and also potential healing, btw they are healers. Also, if you are good, you are good, playing smart > top 5 on anything
Aye it do be like that, even worse when his uptime is 70% and he forces prot pala to use wisdom, prot pala could easily provide more healing and relieve stress on hpalas role... but w.e xD
I feel like resto druids are really underrated... most people have never seen a really good rdudu. I've seen people say that they are useless at fights like DBS. People need to learn what Living seed is. Spamming the tank with Nourish and proccing living seed is just as good as Shamans Earth Shield. Not to mention that you will always keep a Regrowth+Rejuv on them, allowing to cast a quick swiftmend if necessary. Also Nature Swiftness + Healing Touch for that "oh shit this dude about to die" moment. And don't get me started on AOE fights like PP, Sindy, BQL even on Marrowgars bone storm, that's where they really shine. A good rdudu that knows what hes doing is rare which is why rdudus are so hated but having one in your raid feels so good.
Tako je brate, sve si lepo objasnio. Danas nema mnogo dobrih druida, meni je main rdudu, igrao sam ga u patchu 4.3.4 i solo sam hilao DS 10 Heroic, najjači raid. Kada se raspao server na kome sam igrao, prešao sam na patch 3.3.5 i to pre 4 dana. Danas sam bas izlevelovao druida do 80. I sada polako krećem da ga giram 🙂
I would have place Disc priest in the 3th place then holy priest 4th and resto druid 5th, in my healer experience I remember disco priest was so OP because of Shields he can put on everyone during healing intensive phase/fights ( Syndra tomb's phase for exemple). Also holy priest is very nice to have but it is true in case you already got a disc priest in the raid, but still I agreed it diserve a good rank. Holy paladin is top one because its the only Healing class that never goes oom but if you forget that rsham is best tank/raid healing class for sure ;) And one last thing, resto druid power depends on fights, the more you need to move on a boss fight ( like Ruby sanctum heroic ) the best resto druid is
Very good video and glad to see your opinions on healing, as someone completely new to healing who's never done it before, would you have any clear tips on what to learn first and any tips in general?
Well it might be somewhat of a baptism by fire in the wrong situation but i'dd suggest to queue up for RDF as a healer around level 17 or 18, this way you wont have many spells to use yet and you'll learn things 1 step at a time. At level 80 is really is hard but a RDF HC or even NM could prove fruitful aswell :), GL!
Well im now at lvl 70 playing resto sham and i tell you its hard had alot of strugle with mana and tanks pulling to much so we end up dead bcz it runs out mana so fast .. rdf is wild i can tell you that much form bad tanks to dps not caring about agro and getting them selfs low i try to save them them and tank too and we all die .. well good mental prep and practice with mana
Well, most important ability of holy priest in my opinion is guardian spirit. Like if u fked up and cant heal tank in time, its like free not get raged on card.
So, this is the creative process. First you look at which is the best healer out of all of them, this is the "top" healer, then you go down the list from top to bottom to see which is the "top" healer.
@@AwbeeX57 The title is strange.. there are 5 total healing specs, so "top 5" seems somewhat strange... something like "All 5 healing specs ranked" makes a lot more sense lol It's like saying "top 7 WoW expansions ranked" when there are 7 total
@@H41030v3rki110ny0u I think this works too, having "top" in the title is just such a great clickbait and continuation of the "top" series that I couldn't bring myself to not use it and I'll stand by my decision, I appreciate the thought though.
So, Disc Priests are the best healers in WOTLK... you have them 5th. An absorb is 100% efficient... a heal is not... You can bring less healers on some fights, because of the ability of a disc priest to reduce damage and their absorbs...
I said this before but you should really try to make in depth guides with all the classes that you play and go through every icc fight and mention a few class specific tips and tricks (like dks can ams swarming shadow or that you should use your deathgrip/ams on cooldown on blq in case of MC so you don't one-shot someone) I'd personally watch those on repeat especially if I want to try out a new class. Most of those old videos are old and bad quality and incomplete
Just a cookie cutter guide template that you can use for every class. Talents - stat prio - rotation/prio list - consumables - prof (ofc it's jc/eng, ignore this) - maybe bis list for fun and the aforementioned tips
I'm watching this pretty late, by i totally disagree ... How can you say hpally is better than resto shaman and druid... My personal opinion from what I've played and watch other players Resto shaman has stupid ass healing, and dudu can keep a lot of players alive with those hots ! I will sort em like. 1.resto shaman 2. Dudu 3.hpally 4.holy 5.disco That's pve rating tho.. PvP would be 1.hpally and dpriest
Resto druid is a "Fill" healer mate.Each healer is food in it's own way but when a raid will require topping a target that drops bellow 30-40% and you know that if u do not heal that target in the next second he ia going to die,druid will fail that while Hpala can do it easy.Druids are heals that fill in thw gaps for the others healer while disc priets are just providing straight dmg reduction.Hpala will alwys be a better healer than any druid in any situation and i'm telling you this beacause i' m playing all heals at bis gear and have tried icc 25hc as 3 x heal comp with different healer classes with the guild.Cheers !
with what kind of icc buff are u guys raiding :D 8 (?!?!?!) Stacks exploding on Sindragosa? :D On our Blizzlike Server 5-6 Stacks is wipe :D aside that, nice vid :)
For me its 1. Shaman 2. Druid 3. H-pala 4. Disco 5. Holy priest Note, paladins do 50% sentence healing.... The ones that kept your ass alive are the shaman and druid with shield from discos paladin only useful to stay all time on tanks. Toping healing charts with shaman druid shows who had the skills
And thats why you want a paladin to be tank healer, braindead people do play paladins because you should normally heal 1-2targets. If you lack a paladin healer guess what... Your shaman and druid will easy keep tank up and off heal the raid so.... Don't doubt about it, im letting you know due to playing healer since vanilla and paladins are good but a shaman or druid is better.
Tbh its not "who does best" it's how the healers work together, Holy paladin should be taking care of the tank so that it frees up time for the other healers to do their job, wether that be dispelling or just healing the raid. Working together > Working selfishly, Especially with healers.
In my experience, I think holy priest and resto shammy are neck and neck for number 2. The main contributing factor with holy priest is the experience required to play it. Resto shammy does have an edge in the ability to provide better tank heals, but looking at raid healing, I personally find holy priests to be a notch above resto shammy.
I know this is an old video, but has anyone else here played on private WOTLK servers? Druids are literally best in game. Back in the day Hpal has considered the best, now that people have mastered the game - druids are number 1..... Anyone else agree?
Oh that would be fun too, don't really know everyone however and I wouldn't wanna leave anyone out. besides healing is about team work aslong as we understand that then nobody dies :D
I just dont agree to use PI on top dps caster i prefer to use it on rsham or hpal.I mean is it better to have whole raid alive or 3 of em dead and 1 empowered rdps.
I really wanna disagree with 3 and 5 tho 5 I can’t really because the definition of healing yes I agree tho I believe resto Druid should be over holy but I also never seen a bis holy priest
Tbh im completely on your side with everything.. disco is needed but boring, holy is extremely fun, resto is super strong in solohealing and hpal is just op. But i love my hpriest over everything and i love nothing more than solohealing rs10hv shadowrealm:D (ofc only on icecrown) its actually not too bad as holypriest
One button to rule them all. Except PI, PoM, PS, Penace, Dispel Magic, Mass Dispel, Shackle Undead, 3 buffs :P Everything is one button if you stretch reality.
I played every healer in (good) wotlk private servers for a few years now. This video has a lot of misinformation tbh so here's some more info. It's hpal > rsham > disc > rdruid > holy without a doubt. Hpal top because they have strongest throughput the entire expansion and have best raid cd's. If an hpal is able to soak Judgement of Light heals in 25, they should be top healer easily. They aren't OP because of "infinite mana," actually I found mana the hardest to manage as an hpal compared to every other healer if I wasn't in melee range. Rsham weak at first but in ICC lots of fights' damage caters to chain heal very well. They don't need Judgement of Light to pad the meter and do as much healing as an hpal when there is raid damage. Also I think they are the best wielders of Val'anyr. They just need haste more than other healers, so only start picking up after Uld I'd say. A good disc will actually be top heals/absorbs in a lot of fights because of how bubble works; low damage = disc top healer. They also fill a necessary niche for any 25m. Hpal/disc is usually the best combo in 10 mans too. Rdruid is best in Ulduar and can have similarly high throughput as hpal and rsham, just they won't have it as often. Similar predictive playstyle as disc, only instead of pre-absorbs it's pre-hots. Underrated. Holy always felt like a gimmicky, shittier version of rdruid. They are good in naxx and uld and that's about it. Certain fights it's not bad to have however, including LK 25 hc.
I rolled Restoration Shaman in WOTLK and loved it especially once you learn to actually use Healing Wave with Nature Swiftness Macro keybind to my mouse. Noobs spam chain heal
Plot twist there are only 5 healing specs in wow
It ain't a legit healers list if it has no blood DK
Haha :D facts. could use some Spriest too!
Kek no Blood DK on this guide. noob guide jk. XD
I love how much his accent swallows is R’s
Resume:
Holy Pala: broke af on one target healing ( Just best class on burst heal the tank, that's it)
Shaman: Good at one target healing also group healing if you are smart on mana administration
Holy Priest: Really good at group healing with nice habilities on some moments where only them can provide that efects (like mov speed)
Resto Druid: Really good since they HoTs are nice, probably the helear you want in most situations when you have a Holy Priest or Shaman.
Discipline priest: They are "special" since the shields they provide are the thing you need when the raid is fully of helers that can make overhealing THE CLASS YOU NEED when you are doing overhealing so much not the best, but they are playable and also potential healing, btw they are healers.
Also, if you are good, you are good, playing smart > top 5 on anything
I just always feel cheated when a hpal tops the charts whilst 50% of his healing coming from JoL
Aye it do be like that, even worse when his uptime is 70% and he forces prot pala to use wisdom, prot pala could easily provide more healing and relieve stress on hpalas role... but w.e xD
I feel like resto druids are really underrated... most people have never seen a really good rdudu. I've seen people say that they are useless at fights like DBS. People need to learn what Living seed is. Spamming the tank with Nourish and proccing living seed is just as good as Shamans Earth Shield. Not to mention that you will always keep a Regrowth+Rejuv on them, allowing to cast a quick swiftmend if necessary. Also Nature Swiftness + Healing Touch for that "oh shit this dude about to die" moment. And don't get me started on AOE fights like PP, Sindy, BQL even on Marrowgars bone storm, that's where they really shine. A good rdudu that knows what hes doing is rare which is why rdudus are so hated but having one in your raid feels so good.
Tako je brate, sve si lepo objasnio. Danas nema mnogo dobrih druida, meni je main rdudu, igrao sam ga u patchu 4.3.4 i solo sam hilao DS 10 Heroic, najjači raid. Kada se raspao server na kome sam igrao, prešao sam na patch 3.3.5 i to pre 4 dana. Danas sam bas izlevelovao druida do 80. I sada polako krećem da ga giram 🙂
Lifebloom ontop what you said lifebloom = free mana when combined with clearcast = infinite mana. Its wht they start stacking intel inplace of spirit
i think we all knew hpala would be first :D
my boy Awb with the long anticipated top healer
I would have place Disc priest in the 3th place then holy priest 4th and resto druid 5th, in my healer experience I remember disco priest was so OP because of Shields he can put on everyone during healing intensive phase/fights ( Syndra tomb's phase for exemple). Also holy priest is very nice to have but it is true in case you already got a disc priest in the raid, but still I agreed it diserve a good rank. Holy paladin is top one because its the only Healing class that never goes oom but if you forget that rsham is best tank/raid healing class for sure ;)
And one last thing, resto druid power depends on fights, the more you need to move on a boss fight ( like Ruby sanctum heroic ) the best resto druid is
its more like its ez everybody can do the disc so you feel it feels better in general if u met many heals but it isnt.
Very good video and glad to see your opinions on healing, as someone completely new to healing who's never done it before, would you have any clear tips on what to learn first and any tips in general?
Well it might be somewhat of a baptism by fire in the wrong situation but i'dd suggest to queue up for RDF as a healer around level 17 or 18, this way you wont have many spells to use yet and you'll learn things 1 step at a time.
At level 80 is really is hard but a RDF HC or even NM could prove fruitful aswell :), GL!
Well im now at lvl 70 playing resto sham and i tell you its hard had alot of strugle with mana and tanks pulling to much so we end up dead bcz it runs out mana so fast .. rdf is wild i can tell you that much form bad tanks to dps not caring about agro and getting them selfs low i try to save them them and tank too and we all die .. well good mental prep and practice with mana
Bacon of Light is OP indeed.
Well, most important ability of holy priest in my opinion is guardian spirit. Like if u fked up and cant heal tank in time, its like free not get raged on card.
Whaat my Disc priest is on last spot?:( for me he‘s the best healer
Disc is the lowest HPS healing spec in the game
@@cheedandcheed1592 But one of the most needed ones, as the shields it gives are super nice and it also combos VERY well with Hpala
@@cheedandcheed1592 LMAO stop using your ignorance to deceive people
nice video man it helped me too much thanks keep on top 5 videos please i love all of them
How can there be top 5 heals if there are only 5 healing specs
So, this is the creative process.
First you look at which is the best healer out of all of them, this is the "top" healer, then you go down the list from top to bottom to see which is the "top" healer.
@@AwbeeX57 The title is strange.. there are 5 total healing specs, so "top 5" seems somewhat strange... something like "All 5 healing specs ranked" makes a lot more sense lol
It's like saying "top 7 WoW expansions ranked" when there are 7 total
@@H41030v3rki110ny0u I think this works too, having "top" in the title is just such a great clickbait and continuation of the "top" series that I couldn't bring myself to not use it and I'll stand by my decision, I appreciate the thought though.
Hi guys...i know here may be is not the place to ask but...Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings who is the most efective class for this weapon?
Disc priest
whats the name of that intro song, i know its a remake from a naruto song.
So, Disc Priests are the best healers in WOTLK... you have them 5th. An absorb is 100% efficient... a heal is not... You can bring less healers on some fights, because of the ability of a disc priest to reduce damage and their absorbs...
It seems you never played vanilla when we had to downrank. The point here is the mana cost.
I said this before but you should really try to make in depth guides with all the classes that you play and go through every icc fight and mention a few class specific tips and tricks (like dks can ams swarming shadow or that you should use your deathgrip/ams on cooldown on blq in case of MC so you don't one-shot someone) I'd personally watch those on repeat especially if I want to try out a new class. Most of those old videos are old and bad quality and incomplete
Just a cookie cutter guide template that you can use for every class. Talents - stat prio - rotation/prio list - consumables - prof (ofc it's jc/eng, ignore this) - maybe bis list for fun and the aforementioned tips
Yeah I just finished making the script for the boomie guide, check the channel for the other guide content :)
Some people say Holy priest sucks at low gear is it true ?
They are hard to play, even harder without gear, but they don't suck for sure.
Would be great to see walkaround and guide of it since its so rare on icc
Holy priests are the most Mana intensive healers, so without good gear you won't be able to heal for long in a raid.
You didnt miss anything.
Do i ? :D
@@AwbeeX57 Yes you do , we did alot of ICC's with E N I G M A also i got ya always on discord for a fun chat :)
Great video!
Where can I find similar add-ons like yours?
In the description u'll find my Discord, Gl m8
Disc Priest is A or S tier cus of the reasons stated in this video.
Where are you from?
Love your tutorials
I'm watching this pretty late, by i totally disagree ... How can you say hpally is better than resto shaman and druid... My personal opinion from what I've played and watch other players Resto shaman has stupid ass healing, and dudu can keep a lot of players alive with those hots !
I will sort em like.
1.resto shaman
2. Dudu
3.hpally
4.holy
5.disco
That's pve rating tho.. PvP would be 1.hpally and dpriest
Resto druid is a "Fill" healer mate.Each healer is food in it's own way but when a raid will require topping a target that drops bellow 30-40% and you know that if u do not heal that target in the next second he ia going to die,druid will fail that while Hpala can do it easy.Druids are heals that fill in thw gaps for the others healer while disc priets are just providing straight dmg reduction.Hpala will alwys be a better healer than any druid in any situation and i'm telling you this beacause i' m playing all heals at bis gear and have tried icc 25hc as 3 x heal comp with different healer classes with the guild.Cheers !
with what kind of icc buff are u guys raiding :D 8 (?!?!?!) Stacks exploding on Sindragosa? :D On our Blizzlike Server 5-6 Stacks is wipe :D
aside that, nice vid :)
30% buff is a joke. Not a fan at all sorry. I feel like its a noob move
HPalas are ridiculously broken, just did icc 25 with 4kgs and got top healing in some fights. Other healers were 5kgs+ 2dudu, sham and discp
I would deff put disc 3rd and holy 4th ive actually healed alot as disc and their absorb is god
I agree with you. I played a disc priest in tbc classic.
Hpala is the best ofc. great video Awbee. also 2:31 there is a hidden message 👍👍
👐, ty for the cheers mate! what was the message? xD
Is this music from Chrono Trigger??
Some of the music I use is from Chrono Trigger yeah, probably Frog's theme or WInd Scene was used in this video.
Best youtube channel I know
For me its
1. Shaman
2. Druid
3. H-pala
4. Disco
5. Holy priest
Note, paladins do 50% sentence healing.... The ones that kept your ass alive are the shaman and druid with shield from discos paladin only useful to stay all time on tanks. Toping healing charts with shaman druid shows who had the skills
Heck yea! Resto Shamans :D
Doubt.
If the tank is dead the raid will also be dead.
And thats why you want a paladin to be tank healer, braindead people do play paladins because you should normally heal 1-2targets. If you lack a paladin healer guess what... Your shaman and druid will easy keep tank up and off heal the raid so.... Don't doubt about it, im letting you know due to playing healer since vanilla and paladins are good but a shaman or druid is better.
Tbh its not "who does best" it's how the healers work together, Holy paladin should be taking care of the tank so that it frees up time for the other healers to do their job, wether that be dispelling or just healing the raid.
Working together > Working selfishly, Especially with healers.
can you do a gearing guide for new players
Not in the near future, maybe if you ask Hamsterwheel really nicely?
@@AwbeeX57 :( oke thanks
In my experience, I think holy priest and resto shammy are neck and neck for number 2. The main contributing factor with holy priest is the experience required to play it. Resto shammy does have an edge in the ability to provide better tank heals, but looking at raid healing, I personally find holy priests to be a notch above resto shammy.
I know this is an old video, but has anyone else here played on private WOTLK servers? Druids are literally best in game. Back in the day Hpal has considered the best, now that people have mastered the game - druids are number 1..... Anyone else agree?
I disagree disc priests are better due to their absorption shield
Can u share the addons?
I have them all in the Discord, you can also find a video titled "My addons in 3.3.5", Gl!
Hpal FTW Gj awbee keep going on mate
Thanks mate, will do :d
Oh hey awbee .. almost 4K ... looking for an another extravaganza xd
Gonna be fun :D
what addons heal effect moving in side
MSBT, Its in my Discord, link should be in the description.
I wish there was a channel for apollo twinstar cataclysm :3
Maybe one day when Frostmourne is done/obsolete :D
Here i thought you would list the 5 best healer players on the server. class guide is cool too though :)
Oh that would be fun too, don't really know everyone however and I wouldn't wanna leave anyone out. besides healing is about team work aslong as we understand that then nobody dies :D
Disc priests be like: Boom Bam Bap...Badabap Boom Pow.
But I'm not a rap....healer
Man's Hot BADABAP BOOM BAAAAUW
Imagen having a top 5 list with 5 participants, cant loose
very 2022 of me huh :P
I just dont agree to use PI on top dps caster i prefer to use it on rsham or hpal.I mean is it better to have whole raid alive or 3 of em dead and 1 empowered rdps.
where is the rogue?????
Ahhh yeees i forgot about the assasination talent that increases healing taken with bandage spec, my bad ill remake the video :p
I really wanna disagree with 3 and 5 tho 5 I can’t really because the definition of healing yes I agree tho I believe resto Druid should be over holy but I also never seen a bis holy priest
Check Abuseyourdna on horde icecrown. Dude is a beast. Also Iqui or Fox or Tutan from Afterlight
@@Peruzzy4lfe I'm flattered for mentioning me, Abuseyourdna. ✌
@@eGoisMiNMyHeart Sponji sends his regards :D
That was a luxembourgish flag. Not a dutch.
Awbee, The god.
This list should be healers from worst to best. :)
Tbh im completely on your side with everything.. disco is needed but boring, holy is extremely fun, resto is super strong in solohealing and hpal is just op. But i love my hpriest over everything and i love nothing more than solohealing rs10hv shadowrealm:D (ofc only on icecrown) its actually not too bad as holypriest
Aye solohealing RS10HC is fun.
@@AwbeeX57 hehe yea
Nice vid
Nice one !
Discipline priest on wotlk is same as destro warlock on tbc.1 button spam.Not challenging or fun at all
One button to rule them all.
Except PI, PoM, PS, Penace, Dispel Magic, Mass Dispel, Shackle Undead, 3 buffs :P
Everything is one button if you stretch reality.
I played every healer in (good) wotlk private servers for a few years now. This video has a lot of misinformation tbh so here's some more info.
It's hpal > rsham > disc > rdruid > holy without a doubt.
Hpal top because they have strongest throughput the entire expansion and have best raid cd's. If an hpal is able to soak Judgement of Light heals in 25, they should be top healer easily. They aren't OP because of "infinite mana," actually I found mana the hardest to manage as an hpal compared to every other healer if I wasn't in melee range.
Rsham weak at first but in ICC lots of fights' damage caters to chain heal very well. They don't need Judgement of Light to pad the meter and do as much healing as an hpal when there is raid damage. Also I think they are the best wielders of Val'anyr. They just need haste more than other healers, so only start picking up after Uld I'd say.
A good disc will actually be top heals/absorbs in a lot of fights because of how bubble works; low damage = disc top healer. They also fill a necessary niche for any 25m. Hpal/disc is usually the best combo in 10 mans too.
Rdruid is best in Ulduar and can have similarly high throughput as hpal and rsham, just they won't have it as often. Similar predictive playstyle as disc, only instead of pre-absorbs it's pre-hots. Underrated.
Holy always felt like a gimmicky, shittier version of rdruid. They are good in naxx and uld and that's about it. Certain fights it's not bad to have however, including LK 25 hc.
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The flag you used is the one of Luxembourg! #realdutchpride
This has been my flag since the 16th century, Ill admit im not good at maps but ill be damned if i dont recognise my red white n blue :p
He’s right. The Dutch flag is more blue
@@EpicBoneBreaker Alright fine ill add more blue im fine with that i like blue xd
YESS MAN ♡♡♡♡
Uitstekend!
I wanna the val'nyr in my restoration shammy 😋
Its good, worth the grind but you'll need a guild for ulduar 25 :p
@@AwbeeX57 that's the hardest part hahaha
at lastt
xd fair enough
I knew hpala will be first
Ma brotha combat rogue or some ToC 10 25 boosts IGN Dzonkaapvp
Resto druid shoude be 3rd Holy priest last....
Hpriest is just hard to play hes better raid healer than rdudu
I rolled Restoration Shaman in WOTLK and loved it especially once you learn to actually use Healing Wave with Nature Swiftness Macro keybind to my mouse. Noobs spam chain heal
I spam riptide and chain heal hahahahaha 👀
cringe
I love holy paladin, but i hate that rets use seal of light and stealing my healing ❤️🩹