@@AnalogInsights always love your videos, but indeed... a friend of mine sent me the link to your new video and I paused to tell him that the Thypoch folks very clearly stole the lens body design from Kern lenses.
@@darrellowens4648its not so uncommon nowadays for new manufacturers to pick details or copy entire pieces from classic designs. Light lens lab for example makes their whole business on rebuilding Leica collector pieces for a lower price. Voigtländer also has its modern takes on classic Leica and nikkor lenses. The only case that I would call problematic today is the "Brighting star 28mm" stealing from MS Optics, which is a one man company still in business.
Excellent video. A number of years ago you reviewed the Leica 28.. Elmarit F2.8 asph. I have this lens but am considering a faster 28mm. Ignoring the extra 2 stops and the weight difference, how do you compare the sharpness and the bokeh from F2.8 onwards of these 2 lenses? Love your channel - one of my favourites. Thank you for doing this.
Very difficult question. I haven’t compared these two side by side but would argue that sharpness is comparable and the Leica is probably a bit sharper and cleaner. But only to a small extent. I hope this helps.
Very interesting lens. I hope that their next lenses are a stop slower to allow for significantly smaller body size, however. I like the body design and correction but I don't need the extra stop and size that comes with it.
Thank you for your comment and interesting perspective. I agree that it will be interesting to see what comes next and whether this will include some more compact lenses.
The introduction portions are filmed with a Leica T with a 35mm f/1.8 Minolta MD lens. There is a review of this lens on the channel if you are interested.
These Chinese lens makers are a bit scary at the 1st glance. The Thypoch lens is an innovative approach. But when I assess lens performance, it must be sharp wide open. This is why I pay the extra money. If it does not and I need to stop down , I prefer a solid solution like a Leica Summicron. The pictures taken with the Thypoch look pretty ok, but I am afraid that shooting the lens on my digital Leica could show results that may explain the price. It's all about price / quality sensibility. You are always doing a great job with your reviews, well balanced, but for a purchase decision I would need to get more clarity about the performance at f1.4 and this would require digital shots.
Thank you for your feedback. There are plenty of reviews available of the same lens tested on digital cameras. Feel free to take a look if it helps you to make up your mind. In my tests, the performance wide open was really good.
I've joined the thypoch group in facebook, seen so many reviews with digital or film cameras, not single of them convincec me to purchase, especially with the image quality and the price, yes it is innovative for current modern lens on the market, but i think its quality almost the same like 7artisans version of 28mm f1.4. Maybe they have more better QC, so have consistency in every copy. Prefer to get the voigtlander 28mm f.1.5, in my area its only sold $40 more expensive than this lens
Interesting. Chinese made with no verifiable heritage to speak of. Might take a look in ten years and see if they have built a reputation of IQ and build quality. Until then just a curiosity from my point of view. Thanks for taking it for a spin.
@@JamesBoyer-plus If you’re going to cut and paste stuff from Fred Miranda maybe we should discuss some other posts of concerns about the lack of flare control and light leaks from the mount retaining screws..? Like I said… Chinese made and I’m going to wait a few years before plonking down any of my cash for one of these things.
the focusing scale is actually taken from the kern 50mm macro switar for the old alpa 35mm cameras.
Very interesting. I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks for pointing it out.
@@AnalogInsights always love your videos, but indeed... a friend of mine sent me the link to your new video and I paused to tell him that the Thypoch folks very clearly stole the lens body design from Kern lenses.
@@darrellowens4648its not so uncommon nowadays for new manufacturers to pick details or copy entire pieces from classic designs.
Light lens lab for example makes their whole business on rebuilding Leica collector pieces for a lower price. Voigtländer also has its modern takes on classic Leica and nikkor lenses.
The only case that I would call problematic today is the "Brighting star 28mm" stealing from MS Optics, which is a one man company still in business.
@@AnalogInsights "Wer hat's erfunden?" Viele Grüsse aus dem Aargau, schöne Vorstellung.
Excellent review! 2 additional stops & 14 blades are very appetizing. I have always favored this focal length, too. Thanks for this post!
Thanks for your kind feedback. Glad you enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed your images. Thank you for the wonderful review!
I just picked up the Voigtlander 28mm F1.5 which I really am enjoying. ❤
the 28 and 35 1.5 voigt are amazing lenses!
Great video and very inspiring and informative about a new interesting lens.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your kind feedback.
This lens really piqued my interest. So happy to see you all cover it here. Thanks for the video!
Thanks so much for your kind feedback. I really appreciate it.
As mentioned, the DOF scale is an exact copy from the Alpa Kern.
But, it does look like a nice lens.
Gutes Video, schöne Bilder.❤
Well done again Max!
Thanks so much. Really appreciate it.
Great vid as always!
Thank you for your kind words. 🙏🏻
The 7artisans 28mm 1.4 for Leica M, the underdog, was forgotten. As almost always.
great review! i was wandering which scanner did you use for scanning potra 160?
Sehr Interessante Linse und ein tolles Video. Danke 🙏🏾
Excellent video. A number of years ago you reviewed the Leica 28.. Elmarit F2.8 asph. I have this lens but am considering a faster 28mm. Ignoring the extra 2 stops and the weight difference, how do you compare the sharpness and the bokeh from F2.8 onwards of these 2 lenses? Love your channel - one of my favourites. Thank you for doing this.
Very difficult question. I haven’t compared these two side by side but would argue that sharpness is comparable and the Leica is probably a bit sharper and cleaner. But only to a small extent. I hope this helps.
sehr schöne Review und eine interessante Alternative.
Very interesting lens. I hope that their next lenses are a stop slower to allow for significantly smaller body size, however. I like the body design and correction but I don't need the extra stop and size that comes with it.
Thank you for your comment and interesting perspective. I agree that it will be interesting to see what comes next and whether this will include some more compact lenses.
Dear , which camera and lens have you used to make the video of yourself here ?
The introduction portions are filmed with a Leica T with a 35mm f/1.8 Minolta MD lens. There is a review of this lens on the channel if you are interested.
@@AnalogInsights Yes, I have seen the video. Well-made.
welcome to hk
Really, really.....👍
These Chinese lens makers are a bit scary at the 1st glance. The Thypoch lens is an innovative approach. But when I assess lens performance, it must be sharp wide open. This is why I pay the extra money. If it does not and I need to stop down , I prefer a solid solution like a Leica Summicron. The pictures taken with the Thypoch look pretty ok, but I am afraid that shooting the lens on my digital Leica could show results that may explain the price. It's all about price / quality sensibility. You are always doing a great job with your reviews, well balanced, but for a purchase decision I would need to get more clarity about the performance at f1.4 and this would require digital shots.
Preaching to the wrong crowd. Might be a digital insights channel where you can get your digital fix
Thank you for your feedback. There are plenty of reviews available of the same lens tested on digital cameras. Feel free to take a look if it helps you to make up your mind. In my tests, the performance wide open was really good.
I've joined the thypoch group in facebook, seen so many reviews with digital or film cameras, not single of them convincec me to purchase, especially with the image quality and the price, yes it is innovative for current modern lens on the market, but i think its quality almost the same like 7artisans version of 28mm f1.4. Maybe they have more better QC, so have consistency in every copy. Prefer to get the voigtlander 28mm f.1.5, in my area its only sold $40 more expensive than this lens
@@ElmarJournal Thanks, Elmar. It confirms my suspects. If I had spent 700€ for a bargain, it would end up with a write-off.
Interesting. Chinese made with no verifiable heritage to speak of. Might take a look in ten years and see if they have built a reputation of IQ and build quality. Until then just a curiosity from my point of view. Thanks for taking it for a spin.
Thypoch appears to be an offshoot brand of DZOFilm, which is a relatively new (founded in 2013) but well-established manufacturer of cinema lenses.
@@JamesBoyer-plus If you’re going to cut and paste stuff from Fred Miranda maybe we should discuss some other posts of concerns about the lack of flare control and light leaks from the mount retaining screws..? Like I said… Chinese made and I’m going to wait a few years before plonking down any of my cash for one of these things.