What a great response by Mohler, when we talk about our faith and who the only true G-d is, our words should be in line with scripture, leave little to no room for our own assumption or logic, our words should be the same as Christ’s words and the same as the prophets words which are the voices that G-d used to describe us and Himself.
Yes they are very interesting to get such a powerhouse of theological wealth of knowledge on so many different subjects! I just love watching these panels with these men!
Regarding the question about abortion, what does the post-abortive woman expect people to say when she tells them she's had an abortion? Most conservative, strongly pro-life Christians would be horrified, and not know what to say. I'm grateful RC pointed out that we should disapprove of what she's done.
14:00 Not only did Jesus Himself say that, but His Apostle John repeated it: Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also. - 1 John 2:22-23
The Bible says there a degrees of punishment however it doesn't matter if the furnace is 5000 degree or 500000 degrees, when you on fire you are on fire.
A question I would like to ask is why is it that Jesus said we shall do greater works than those he did and the world hasn’t seen miracles as those that Jesus performed
A lot of people like to say that the greater work is the reach we have with the gospel, Christ stayed in the area around Israel due to what His purpose was, but the church has spread around the world basically at this point.
I wish modern American Christianity, or at least the Reformed community, had a more sophisticated view of terrorism. The prophets were very clear in their condemnation of Israel for their injustice towards neighboring countries. The United States and NATO is the root cause of international terrorism. The sad fact is that the United States has been waging offensive wars and overthrowing democratically elected governments since World War 2. Any act of terror committed by Muslims has been done a hundred fold by the US and its allies. I feel that church leaders have the responsibility to seek accurate news outlets and inform their congregations of international injustice. The ignorance and extent of brainwashing on this topic of the average parishioner is astonishing.
I agree with most of your point. I would like to add that the greatest travesty of it all is the fact that it has made sharing the Gospel around the world very difficult. The West used to send missionaries to save lives and now we send solders to take lives. We have created an environment that is so toxic making the spread of the Gospel unnecessarily hard. And never use the "its a human rights issue" to justify the atrocities we are committing. Because, the West's greatest ally is Saudi Arabia, which has the worst human rights abuse on earth! Even worse than North Korea, at least there the women can drive. What the West does has nothing to do with human rights. If we did then we wouldn't choose which human rights to involve ourselves in and which ones to ignore. We ignored the Rwandan genocide because Rwanda has no natural resources but we overthrew Qadaffi, because Libya has oil. Our involvement in removing leaders has been the main cause of the complete elimination of Christians in the Middle East and other Muslim dominated lands. At least there were some Christians living in the Middle East prior to the USA involvement. We have sowed so much pain and suffering on this earth that we will reap ten times worse. The West doesn't know it just yet. At least perhaps some can repent and save their own soul, because they will never save their country. God's wrath is about to be unleashed on our planet. We haven't seen anything yet!
I have heard lots of people saying that the Old Testament people were saved by looking forward to the cross as we are saved by looking back to the cross. I believe that they were influenced by the doctrine of John Calvin. However I cannot agree with this concept because It will contradict several verses in the bible. For instance: Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins ( Hebrews 9:22 ) Christ died once and for all ( Romans 6:10 ) Abraham, David, Solomon, Samson, etc were not yet saved until Christ shed His blood at the cross, They were potentially saved but not yet saved. There sins were not yet remitted until the shed blood of Christ. To be saved means to be born again or to be regenerated. Obviously they were not yet regenerated otherwise David should have not committed a grievous sins of adultery and murder...
At 1:25 The question was: If God gives faith and He wants everyone to be saved, why does He not give faith to everyone? (01:25) Sproul did not answer it correctly, He also ignored 1 Timothy 2:4... Too much of Calvinism can lead you astray...
God only saves his favorites. So anyone in the comments enjoy life. If your not called God hates you and is glorified by you being in hell. Because he is love. Insane people will have an issue with what I said.
Where did Steven Lawson get the idea that the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the cross as we are saved by looking back to the cross? Is this also Calvin's doctrine? I do not think that this is biblically correct. Will somebody answer my question in lieu of Steven Lawson?
I am not saying I agree nor am I defending or saying he is wrong but yes the vast majority of Calvinists believe this. I may also add that many others who do not consider themselves Calvinists also believe that.
+Robert Baker , Thanks for your reply, I disagree with that concept for the following reasons: To be saved means to be regenerated, or be born again, Regenerated means you are alive again spiritually because all your sins were remitted by the blood of Jesus, Those people in the OT were potentially saved but not yet saved completely until the blood of Jesus was shed in Calvary, Their sins were not yet remitted because the blood of Jesus was not yet shed! I will give you a good example of my point: King David committed a grievous sin of murder and adultery, A truly regenerated person cannot commit such a grievous sin. This also destroy the concept that a fallen man is totally wicked and don't even have a desire to do good. This will be more clear if you have the knowledge that there are 2 kinds of people in the world, The sheep and the goat or The wheat and the tare (see the parable of Jesus about the wheat and the tare) The wheat is of God and tare is of the devil, Though fallen the wheat can still have a desire to do good but they always fall short because they are not yet regenerated. The theory of Calvin applies only to the tare but not to the wheat, Look at David, Samson, Jacob, They always have a desire to do good but they always fall short. The tare like Cain, Judas, some of the Pharisees whom Jesus said that they are the sons of their father, the devil never desire to do good...
Romans 3 is one of many New Testament places to answer this. Quote below. Notice: 1. The righteousness of Christ is apart from the law but born witness to by the law to God’s Old Testament People. 2. All are condemned apart from the righteousness that comes from faith in Christ (this has always been the case). 3. God was able to ‘pass over former sins’ precisely because he was looking forward to the redeeming work of Christ. 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it- 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. - Romans 3:21-26
The sin against the Holy Spirit is impossible to commit in todys society. That sin was the sin of Jewish people who continued to follow the gods of Rome.. and they perished in Jerusalem in AD70 because they did not repent
John 1-18 No one has seen God at any time;* *The only begotton Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.* a) That means; that Jesus cannot be God because all the apostles saw Jesus. b) Also the multitudes who followed Jesus saw Him, therefore Jesus cannot be God. c) If no one seen God at anytime, that means Jesus did not see God; therefore He cannot be God. d) It also says; *the only begotten Son;* which means Jesus never existed in any form before Mary gave birth to Him. e) This is more evidence that the trinity is a false doctrine; because thousands of people saw Jesus and interacted with Him. . God dosnt give faith
When a highly intelligent theologian says God did not give faith to everyone because of His Glory; then we must know that church doctrine is a bottomless of evil. Because the glory of God is God's will. According to church doctrine we were all born sinners which really means that God allowed us to be born in someone else's sin, and then according to His own will He chose not to give faith to some people to get them saved. To rectify this false doctrine it says in Eze 18-18-20 God does not hold the sins of the father unto the children. So everyone was not lost after the fall of man. And to add to this the bible never mentions the phrase the fall of man.
I miss RC Sproal and I’m sure I will see him again after the Lord takes me home
What a great response by Mohler, when we talk about our faith and who the only true G-d is, our words should be in line with scripture, leave little to no room for our own assumption or logic, our words should be the same as Christ’s words and the same as the prophets words which are the voices that G-d used to describe us and Himself.
Wonderful godly men speaking the words of God so all can understand!! Listen to them!
wow... their response to abortion is both loving and very truthful.
I really enjoyed the Ligonier conference as a first time visitor :)
Yes they are very interesting to get such a powerhouse of theological wealth of knowledge on so many different subjects! I just love watching these panels with these men!
Very good and accurate explanation Dan.
Mohler, layin' it down
Regarding the question about abortion, what does the post-abortive woman expect people to say when she tells them she's had an abortion? Most conservative, strongly pro-life Christians would be horrified, and not know what to say. I'm grateful RC pointed out that we should disapprove of what she's done.
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Not only did Jesus Himself say that, but His Apostle John repeated it:
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
- 1 John 2:22-23
The only unpardonable sin is not believing in the Christ. Jesus!
RC is right but how are we to understand the verse that God is not willing that any should perish but all come to faith.
The Bible says there a degrees of punishment however it doesn't matter if the furnace is 5000 degree or 500000 degrees, when you on fire you are on fire.
A question I would like to ask is why is it that Jesus said we shall do greater works than those he did and the world hasn’t seen miracles as those that Jesus performed
A lot of people like to say that the greater work is the reach we have with the gospel, Christ stayed in the area around Israel due to what His purpose was, but the church has spread around the world basically at this point.
Everyone has a measure of faith ..mustard seed.
Mohler be thinking, should take it easy this time or I'll be taking heat from RC.
It sound like the aloners conversation
I wish modern American Christianity, or at least the Reformed community, had a more sophisticated view of terrorism. The prophets were very clear in their condemnation of Israel for their injustice towards neighboring countries. The United States and NATO is the root cause of international terrorism. The sad fact is that the United States has been waging offensive wars and overthrowing democratically elected governments since World War 2. Any act of terror committed by Muslims has been done a hundred fold by the US and its allies. I feel that church leaders have the responsibility to seek accurate news outlets and inform their congregations of international injustice. The ignorance and extent of brainwashing on this topic of the average parishioner is astonishing.
I agree with most of your point. I would like to add that the greatest travesty of it all is the fact that it has made sharing the Gospel around the world very difficult. The West used to send missionaries to save lives and now we send solders to take lives. We have created an environment that is so toxic making the spread of the Gospel unnecessarily hard. And never use the "its a human rights issue" to justify the atrocities we are committing. Because, the West's greatest ally is Saudi Arabia, which has the worst human rights abuse on earth! Even worse than North Korea, at least there the women can drive. What the West does has nothing to do with human rights. If we did then we wouldn't choose which human rights to involve ourselves in and which ones to ignore. We ignored the Rwandan genocide because Rwanda has no natural resources but we overthrew Qadaffi, because Libya has oil.
Our involvement in removing leaders has been the main cause of the complete elimination of Christians in the Middle East and other Muslim dominated lands. At least there were some Christians living in the Middle East prior to the USA involvement. We have sowed so much pain and suffering on this earth that we will reap ten times worse. The West doesn't know it just yet. At least perhaps some can repent and save their own soul, because they will never save their country. God's wrath is about to be unleashed on our planet. We haven't seen anything yet!
I have heard lots of people saying that the Old Testament people were saved by looking forward to the cross as we are saved by looking back to the cross.
I believe that they were influenced by the doctrine of John Calvin.
However I cannot agree with this concept because It will contradict several verses in the bible.
For instance: Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins
( Hebrews 9:22 )
Christ died once and for all ( Romans 6:10 )
Abraham, David, Solomon, Samson, etc were not yet saved until Christ shed His blood at the cross,
They were potentially saved but not yet saved. There sins were not yet remitted until the shed blood of Christ.
To be saved means to be born again or to be regenerated.
Obviously they were not yet regenerated otherwise David should have not committed a grievous sins of adultery and murder...
@Falcon you make a lot of sense. Thank you !
At 1:25 The question was: If God gives faith and He wants everyone to be saved, why does He not give faith to everyone? (01:25)
Sproul did not answer it correctly, He also ignored 1 Timothy 2:4...
Too much of Calvinism can lead you astray...
I need a music piece at the 13 minute mark
God only saves his favorites. So anyone in the comments enjoy life. If your not called God hates you and is glorified by you being in hell. Because he is love. Insane people will have an issue with what I said.
Golly, if you guys did not have the Institutes of the Christian Religion you could not quote anything and then you would be windless windmills.
Theom/i'agre //nd.D
Where did Steven Lawson get the idea that the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the cross as we are saved by looking back to the cross?
Is this also Calvin's doctrine? I do not think that this is biblically correct.
Will somebody answer my question in lieu of Steven Lawson?
I am not saying I agree nor am I defending or saying he is wrong but yes the vast majority of Calvinists believe this. I may also add that many others who do not consider themselves Calvinists also believe that.
+Robert Baker ,
Thanks for your reply,
I disagree with that concept for the following reasons:
To be saved means to be regenerated, or be born again,
Regenerated means you are alive again spiritually because all your sins were remitted by the blood of Jesus,
Those people in the OT were potentially saved but not yet saved completely until the blood of Jesus was shed in Calvary,
Their sins were not yet remitted because the blood of Jesus was not yet shed!
I will give you a good example of my point:
King David committed a grievous sin of murder and adultery, A truly regenerated person cannot commit such a grievous sin.
This also destroy the concept that a fallen man is totally wicked and don't even have a desire to do good.
This will be more clear if you have the knowledge that there are 2 kinds of people in the world, The sheep and the goat or The wheat and the tare (see the parable of Jesus about the wheat and the tare)
The wheat is of God and tare is of the devil,
Though fallen the wheat can still have a desire to do good but they always fall short because they are not yet regenerated.
The theory of Calvin applies only to the tare but not to the wheat,
Look at David, Samson, Jacob, They always have a desire to do good but they always fall short.
The tare like Cain, Judas, some of the Pharisees whom Jesus said that they are the sons of their father, the devil never desire to do good...
Romans 3 is one of many New Testament places to answer this. Quote below. Notice:
1. The righteousness of Christ is apart from the law but born witness to by the law to God’s Old Testament People.
2. All are condemned apart from the righteousness that comes from faith in Christ (this has always been the case).
3. God was able to ‘pass over former sins’ precisely because he was looking forward to the redeeming work of Christ.
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it-
22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. - Romans 3:21-26
Right. They knew nothing of the cross. He should have stopped at ‘they were saved by faith in the OT’. That part is true.
Not exactly sure what Calvin thought, but Heb 11:13 is absolutely explicit on this - Lawson's phrase is pretty much a paraphrase of that verse
The sin against the Holy Spirit is impossible to commit in todys society. That sin was the sin of Jewish people who continued to follow the gods of Rome.. and they perished in Jerusalem in AD70 because they did not repent
John 1-18 No one has seen God at any time;*
*The only begotton Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.*
a) That means; that Jesus cannot be God because all the apostles saw Jesus.
b) Also the multitudes who followed Jesus saw Him, therefore Jesus cannot be God.
c) If no one seen God at anytime, that means Jesus did not see God; therefore He cannot be God.
d) It also says; *the only begotten Son;* which means Jesus never existed in any form before Mary gave birth to Him.
e) This is more evidence that the trinity is a false doctrine; because thousands of people saw Jesus and interacted with Him.
. God dosnt give faith
When a highly intelligent theologian says God did not give faith to everyone because of His Glory; then we must know that church doctrine is a bottomless of evil.
Because the glory of God is God's will. According to church doctrine we were all born sinners which really means that God allowed us to be born in someone else's sin, and then according to His own will He chose not to give faith to some people to get them saved.
To rectify this false doctrine it says in Eze 18-18-20 God does not hold the sins of the father unto the children. So everyone was not lost after the fall of man.
And to add to this the bible never mentions the phrase the fall of man.