Does Life Have Objective Purpose?
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"All is vanity."
It’s interesting to imagine what kind of people we would become if we lived as though God didn’t exist. Life would be extremely shallow, self-centered, delusional and materialistic. Unbeknownst to many, this is already how they live. It can’t be anything besides utter insanity.
Of course, Dr. Craig is right again. Life without God is meaningless.
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 LSB
[13] The end of the matter, all that has been heard: fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the end of the matter for all mankind. [14] For God will bring every work to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
And what proof is there that the bible, or your version of it is correct?
@@hugolindum7728 have you tried not being dishonest?
I'm always hilariously amazed at the atheists who insist we have no meaning, purpose, or point, trying to make that point.
There is a God, you have a purpose. If you don't know it yet, you will at an appointed time.
None, have the purpose of floating in a cloud, or at the feet of God, for eternity.
Kingdoms, are hierarchy, and jobs.
The fact that he doesn’t like the bleakness of a godless world, doesn’t mean that there is a god.
True. But Dr. Craig isn't arguing that the bleakness of a godless world means that God exists. For that, he employs arguments from cosmology, philosophy, design, morality, etc. - RF Admin
Craig has said the exact same thing himself in his published work. You should have a read of it some time.
Life purpose is- Go back to Home back to Godhead. Radhey Radhey ❤🙏
A comment I left on another video:
"No matter which way we go, it is no better than any other." -Cioran
So it makes no difference whether you live as a serial killer?
Not only is this false, I think we can safely say it is certainly false. It is certainly the case that pain (intrinsically bad qualia) and happiness (intrinsically good qualia) are different. It is also certain that they are real. To quote Jordan Peterson (one of the few things I've heard him say that has any substance), "There's nothing more real than pain." (Davie Addison. 08 Feb 2017. “Jordan Peterson Chats with Duncan Trussell 2017.”)
Because all fates lead to the same death, we wonder what difference anything makes. The answer is the real experiences real people really have. Our actions make the difference between whether we and others experience moments of suffering or moments of flourishing, and the difference between those moments is not only real, but certainly real.
When someone says life is meaningless or pointless, it sounds to me like they are saying there are no good reasons to live. But this would imply that everyone who chooses to live when faced with the choice to live or die is making an irrational choice. But surely all the world's smartest living folks have faced this choice and chose life. Are they irrational to do so? What are the odds that you are more rational than they are? Really, there are objectively good reasons to live (e.g., to maximize the moments of flourishing for yourself and others), and these reasons cause the smartest folks to choose to live.
In this sense, not only is life meaningful, but it is objectively so such that when someone says "Life is meaningless (and thus there are no good reasons to live)", they are saying something false.
In a million years time everyone you ever knew will be forgotten, whether they be a serial killer or a saint.
Life is full of moments that are great, but the whole thing is pointless.
I agree the atheist has no objective purpose of life. But look at the passion we have for things like supporting our sports teams and playing video games. theres no meaningful benefit to our lives when our team wins or beating a video game but it does cause us great joy. So made up purposes are functionally enough for our psychology.
On the topic of objective purpose, the concept of lasting effects for eternity is an interesting one. It makes me wonder if that's a necessary criterion for something to be considered objectively purposeful. Perhaps objective purpose could exist within the context of our current lives and the impact we make on the world around us.
Yes, that invented purpose might be enough to survive, we can see in history however how that ends up. Always with people playing God, and all others living under tyranny and slavery. I think Christianity(and only that) is what would give us better lives, if people believed it, regardless of whether it is true or not.
The universe doomed in that way regardless of gods existence or not. What is he trying to say? That god will stop that from happening? Or that we will be taken to heaven (reborn on a new earth)?
How does gods presence effect what happens after the inevitable? Id like to know, is there a clear concensus m?
The dying universe becomes the kingdom of God. It means God intervenes when enough of humanity in the history of the universe, are born to run it, including those who died.
Professor John Walton linked the story of the creation of the universe to the creation of function
I am against John Walton's words
But John Walton asks to determine the age of the Earth from the creation story. Is there an answer to this?
Of course I am against John Walton
Can I give an opinion on the issue of determining the age of the Earth? I can say very good things that refute John Walton’s claim
And I would love to hear Dr. Craig's opinion about the age of the Earth
One of these days I really hope Craig will even attempt to actually provide an argument for why “objective” purpose is even remotely desirable. Because I certainly don’t think that it is.
No objective purpose to life is far, far better than a God giving life an objective purpose and making most of humanity suffer in a Hell for all of eternity future.
You are misinformed concerning God and hell, for your understanding of even what hell is, is also most likely false.
According to the God of the Bible the dead, are simply dead, and other reasonable conclusions.
@@eltonron1558 If the dead are simply dead, then what is the purpose of the judgement before God ?
@TheMirabillis It's the main tenant of Christianity.
Resurrection of the dead.
Resurrection of the dead to judgement, at the appointed time.
@@eltonron1558 What you wrote didn’t really answer anything. You wrote previously, that the dead are simply dead. But there is a resurrection. Why resurrect the dead and judge them if they are only go back to death again ? Or do they have suffer in some Hell first ?
@@TheMirabillis A resurrection to judgement is just that.
The unforgiven recieve the wage of sin. Ro. 6:23. In Revelation, it's called the 2nd death.
Humanity isn't evil enough to deserve what Satan gets, so most of humanity is to be FORGIVEN.
Mt. 12:31-32
Mk. 3:28.
To end Islam and the war you have to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized. You might ask "how come asking for proof that the Quran was memorized is going to end Islam?". In life to be happy we have to be wise. In life to be happy we have to understand reality. In life to be happy we have to be good persons. Why don't you ask for proof that the Quran was memorized and see how it goes?. What will be the future of atheism and christianity after christians and atheists refused to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized? How the refusal will be justified?. To end the war and other undesirable suffering the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. The truth, that is censored, is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. I will rephrase the atheist logical fallacy to facilitate the understanding. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Emergency! The true God is Spinoza's God and if you don't believe me you can read Spinoza. Thank you.
Sill Copy paste lying huh?
Life has to have a meaning? If there is no god then life has no mraning? Thats a very narrow-minded and miserable view of life.
more baseless nonsense from Craig. It's great how these cultists can't even show their imaginary friend exists yet they have to claim humanity's purpose is to stroke off this entity.
What's baseless about it? Many atheists agree that without God, life has no objective purpose. - RF Admin
@@drcraigvideos Really? Then you will be able to give the names of these atheists. Life has plenty of purpose, and curious how it doesn't have to be objective, just like the morals of christians aren't objective even when they try to lie that they are.
You guys are always so fun when you think claiming that something is "objective" is important. Alas, not one of you can show your morals are objective, or that your purpose is objective, much less showing your god exists at all.
If morals or purpose are not objective or don’t need to be, then why should anyone listen to what you even have to say? You’re trying to make a point when there’s clearly no reason or purpose in doing so. How exactly are you any less deluded than you think William Lane Craig to be? If Atheists had any sense at all they would stop telling anyone how to think in all honesty. There’s really no debate here. The only reason people have to be upset that there is a God is because they don’t want it to be true.
@@marketmagus They don't need to, I never said they did. Nice fail, dear. There is plenty of reason and purpose in making an argument, to change minds and stop the lies of your cult.
I can suport my arguments. Poor WLC simply has baseless claims and assertions. There certainly is a debate here, but since you have nothing to suport your nonsense, you try desperately to convince me to not show how your lies fail.
Your god is a petty, vicious failure, and I would indeed be upset if it were real. Happily, it is not, and your sadistic little fantasies will never come true.
WLC becomes more desperate and irrational as time proceeds. The complete opposite of listening, learning, and adapting.
We note you were unable to refute his argument.
@stephenglasse9756 So, that those reading can follow along, state WLC's argument in syllogistic form. And don't claim you can't. EVERY argument is a set of true premises leading to one inevitable conclusion by proper inference. Do so, and I will GLADLY refute it.
So either present the argument or cower away and accept my comment as fact.
@@stephenglasse9756 Smart move.
@@stephenglasse9756
Refutation of his argument is simple. He says life without a god has no objective purpose, which would be so horrible there must be a god.
Just because you don’t like something it doesn’t mean it wrong.
What are you talking about. Sometimes he ssys sth strange, true, but he is 100% correct in this case. This is not firstvtime that he speaks about this also