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  • @Khamae77
    @Khamae77 19 дней назад +213

    In terms of greed, Google is catching up with Apple...

    • @rgt2402
      @rgt2402 19 дней назад +2

      Some "premium" brand things

    • @jevonsims900
      @jevonsims900 11 дней назад +5

      They're worse than Apple.

    • @Khamae77
      @Khamae77 11 дней назад

      @@jevonsims900 iOS 17.5 is arriving at full gallop 😉

  • @sujandhar6613
    @sujandhar6613 19 дней назад +419

    BRUH 53K for 8A .... People should pickup Galaxy S23 for that price

    • @sodabutnofizz1294
      @sodabutnofizz1294 19 дней назад +48

      or even, i hate to say it but, iphone 13

    • @saadjsayed
      @saadjsayed 19 дней назад +20

      60k me Iphone 15 mil jaaega

    • @tarunkumar-lk6rg
      @tarunkumar-lk6rg 19 дней назад +32

      ​@sodabutnofizz1294 not everyone are sheep to buy iPhone some just like android more

    • @thepriestofvaranasi
      @thepriestofvaranasi 19 дней назад +30

      ​@@tarunkumar-lk6rgI like Androids too. But one could probably get a much better experience by paying 60k for an iPhone instead of having a mid spec pixel phone with horrible bezels.

    • @Sushant9763
      @Sushant9763 19 дней назад +1

      Iqoo 12

  • @PreeyanshMehta
    @PreeyanshMehta 19 дней назад +460

    Those borders are horrible in 2024

    • @editsessential1121
      @editsessential1121 19 дней назад +30

      Bro even 2/3 of its price phones like poco X6 in 14,000 have almost bezel less display .

    • @skelleboy4650
      @skelleboy4650 19 дней назад +7

      Go and design a phone then newb

    • @shivanshsaini5275
      @shivanshsaini5275 19 дней назад +1

      Turnoff

    • @mayanksarkar7626
      @mayanksarkar7626 19 дней назад +36

      ​@@skelleboy4650 What's wrong with criticising the design?

    • @shivanshsaini5275
      @shivanshsaini5275 19 дней назад +17

      ​@@skelleboy4650 considering the pricepoint and the fact that even phones 75% less than its price have better and even bezels

  • @rajneeshmadhesiya194
    @rajneeshmadhesiya194 19 дней назад +105

    That Display is the ugliest display in this price range. Go back in 2015 and release this phone.

  • @raktimsaikia1476
    @raktimsaikia1476 19 дней назад +203

    Google is always stupid enough to price pixel phone in India. That's what killed it .

    • @Noname12........641
      @Noname12........641 19 дней назад +7

      Yep if they release the phone under 40 k more people would buy it
      If it's more than 40k people will go for iPhone

    • @hyywizz2687
      @hyywizz2687 19 дней назад +1

      Taxes taxes and taxes tell your government to reduce taxes first

    • @Noname12........641
      @Noname12........641 19 дней назад +8

      @@hyywizz2687 nope these phones are a luxury and it's fair to tax

    • @saikatdas1139
      @saikatdas1139 19 дней назад

      @@hyywizz2687rest companies can provide 8 gen 3 iqoo 12 op12 at 65k but tax only comes in terms of pixel😂😂
      Plus after 2 months price will be 38-40k so why not put it in furst place?

    • @hyywizz2687
      @hyywizz2687 18 дней назад

      @@Noname12........641 when phones start manufactured in india price will be reduced

  • @thepriestofvaranasi
    @thepriestofvaranasi 19 дней назад +120

    "18W fast charging" with 2017 style bezels 💀

    • @Cyanide-2JZ-
      @Cyanide-2JZ- 19 дней назад +10

      Man this is an out of season april fools joke. They even increased the price compared to 7a.

    • @craig__07
      @craig__07 19 дней назад

      Better to buy the pixel 8 only

    • @anoopsingh5012
      @anoopsingh5012 18 дней назад +1

      Ever seen a apple iphone 14 💀

    • @craig__07
      @craig__07 18 дней назад +2

      @@anoopsingh5012 waste phone, nothing different from the 13

    • @jevonsims900
      @jevonsims900 11 дней назад +1

      Don't forget the decade old Gorilla Glass 3 that's been on all three Tensor G series Pixel A phones since Pixel 6a.

  • @PRAG3
    @PRAG3 19 дней назад +119

    Tell people that it's an underclocked G3 chip

    • @lifestyleharley
      @lifestyleharley 19 дней назад +2

      Yes and it sucks!!

    • @sydguitar99
      @sydguitar99 19 дней назад +3

      Google's fault for hiding that information, they're lying to the customers

    • @onlinem8158
      @onlinem8158 10 дней назад

      i was doubting the same. where can we get authentic info about it?

    • @PRAG3
      @PRAG3 9 дней назад

      @@onlinem8158 I read that in a article like this one. It's important to note that the GPU is different as well

  • @shadab1526
    @shadab1526 19 дней назад +12

    3:06 *that's what she said* well done editor 💀

  • @Captaincoolmax
    @Captaincoolmax 19 дней назад +64

    Bezels same as S23FE😂

    • @alhaanjamadar1768
      @alhaanjamadar1768 15 дней назад +2

      Bro s23 fe has thinner bezels than the 8a

    • @Captaincoolmax
      @Captaincoolmax 14 дней назад +1

      It looks the same

    • @chessopediaacademy1159
      @chessopediaacademy1159 14 дней назад

      @@alhaanjamadar1768 its samw when you see them side by side I have a s3 fe and brother got pixel 8a just got pixel 8a coming from US the bezels look almost samer when kept side by side and tbh pixel's bezels look more even than my s23 fe

    • @jevonsims900
      @jevonsims900 11 дней назад

      Samsung makes both phones. Allegedly, Google made a deal with Samsung to purchase their lower tier OLED displays at a deep discount.

  • @ViBesOfINDIA2023
    @ViBesOfINDIA2023 19 дней назад +27

    Was designer drunk, lol those bezels😂.

  • @Chinnuu90
    @Chinnuu90 19 дней назад +23

    50k mobile is mid range for u??
    U a very rich brother

    • @ArhamQureshi
      @ArhamQureshi 16 дней назад +1

      It's not mid range but it's supposed to be mid range according to google and that's what he's telling you

    • @Chinnuu90
      @Chinnuu90 16 дней назад +2

      @@ArhamQureshi we won’t consider what companies think about their products
      Just we consider general pricing when matter comes to budget,midrange,premium segments

  • @You5xD
    @You5xD 19 дней назад +42

    Was waiting for the 8a as an upgrade to my Pixel 6a, ended up buying Pixel 8 for 33k during the recent Flipkart sales with exchange bonus and card discount 😊

    • @DebashisBoruah
      @DebashisBoruah 19 дней назад +6

      Same, But I'm Still Sticking To My 6a. Let's See What Pixel 9 Series Bring 🤞🏻

    • @Athena_101
      @Athena_101 19 дней назад +1

      @@DebashisBoruah maybe wait until 10 if you can , Google may switch to TSMC.

    • @DebashisBoruah
      @DebashisBoruah 19 дней назад +4

      @@Athena_101 That Would Be Great. Tensor is Horrible, Can't Even Handle RUclips Videos

    • @uwannaknowmyname6942
      @uwannaknowmyname6942 19 дней назад +5

      Damn 33k that's a great deal

    • @Dheeraj_k18
      @Dheeraj_k18 19 дней назад +1

      Bhai Mera pixel 6a me to 4k video recording hi nhi hoti. 2 min hote hi device hot ho jata hai warning Ane lg jati hai 🥲🥲

  • @thangapandi535
    @thangapandi535 18 дней назад +9

    That bezel will hide my wallpaper

  • @meetsiddhu3455
    @meetsiddhu3455 19 дней назад +8

    this phone had to be 30k best case

  • @spondandhar7944
    @spondandhar7944 19 дней назад +4

    considering 50k price bracket the thick bezels should be a crime. 2017 phones had much lesser bezels than this.

  • @xantaclaws
    @xantaclaws 19 дней назад +8

    The display is like they intentionally made it thick for people to buy pixel 8 over 8a.

  • @shaktir512
    @shaktir512 19 дней назад +17

    Just thick bezzels... Bro just insanely horrible bezzles for a phone ranging over 35k... Huge turn off

  • @sanketnegi1
    @sanketnegi1 19 дней назад +4

    I am a pixel fan.. but the pricing is ridiculous..for a mid range phone.
    Please get a s23 or s24 at that price..
    Yes some of the ai fratures you miss but no biggie..
    The only major feature I miss is coying text from any screen.

  • @kumarseb2510
    @kumarseb2510 19 дней назад +15

    They have lost it in
    sizing those bezels..

    • @chessopediaacademy1159
      @chessopediaacademy1159 14 дней назад

      the screen is pretty flagship it is way brighter than other displays in same price segment in High brightness mode and also produces sharper colours compare to them you can see geeky ranjits review for that also apart from bezels there is not too much to complaint the benchmark scores are not over the top but can deliver you good performance for those who don't need to game it has pretty much all ai features like flagship pixel 8 and 8 pro except video boost it has a 120Hz display and wont feel laggy like other phones in this segment because pixel ui is well optimized and it has nice battery life in this price segment even with smaller battery life pretty much no phone can compete with its camera performance in this or even higher price segment you can look mkbhd's previous 5 years of blind camera reviews also I haven't seen pixel user actually who uses their pixel everyday saying their device isn't worth the money only people who haven't experienced pixel complaint about it

  • @ft.moder001
    @ft.moder001 19 дней назад +16

    Dammn those bessels 🫡

  • @devendradiwan6521
    @devendradiwan6521 19 дней назад +13

    Tbh i don't care if pixel A series come to India or not, i will consider it only if it comes with sd processor like old days

  • @CallMeShazzamVINES
    @CallMeShazzamVINES 18 дней назад +14

    18W fast Charging? in which Universe?

    • @sathyagiriinfo2
      @sathyagiriinfo2 18 дней назад

      Google ruined this phone actually.
      That huge bezel 😮😮😮😮

    • @thousif8496
      @thousif8496 13 дней назад

      Ikka🫶🏻

  • @pranavsomayajula5265
    @pranavsomayajula5265 19 дней назад +2

    The initial launch price is absolutely terrible but with exchange of my 7a and a bank offer, the price is down to 21k. For that price I'd have to say that it's a pretty good deal. Especially since 27k is what I paid for the 7a and that the exact exchange offer. Overall win-win situation.

  • @sumanthsure
    @sumanthsure 19 дней назад +1

    3:11 you said 7a and prateek realised it as well and went with the flow😂

  • @smrutiranjanmohapatra8972
    @smrutiranjanmohapatra8972 17 дней назад

    Bro could u make some videos on charging and phone battery tips .

  • @prachurjyabarman
    @prachurjyabarman 18 дней назад

    Just when they were doing well and putting up some numbers.... They just had to go ahead and increase the price across all ranges.... I'm truly disappointed, bought 6a in July last year was hoping to upgrade to 9a or atleast 8a by the next year.... Now it seems impossible

  • @abhi5421
    @abhi5421 19 дней назад +2

    What about the service centre for pixels?? Generally if any issue happens what further??

  • @thatAkhilguy
    @thatAkhilguy 18 дней назад +1

    Do you think Apple will have “back to school” offer this year (*not unidays*)? I’m planning to buy the mac air so shud i wait🤷‍♂️?

  • @harryvlogs7833
    @harryvlogs7833 19 дней назад +4

    Dude the display is a huge upgrade

  • @technicaltimes4370
    @technicaltimes4370 18 дней назад +3

    Referbuised pixel 7 Pro with excellent condition at 35k is good ? Or other brand new phone at 35k

  • @gowthambharathi5444
    @gowthambharathi5444 18 дней назад

    cool review man

  • @aswal_0
    @aswal_0 19 дней назад +5

    how many saw "that's what she said"??

  • @amitkumarsingh9657
    @amitkumarsingh9657 19 дней назад +2

    Only visible upgrades are those thick bazzels

  • @g8672
    @g8672 19 дней назад +7

    Excuse me, 53000 Rs phone is midrange???
    That to with those horrible looking bezels?

    • @nomnom11111
      @nomnom11111 18 дней назад +1

      Higher Mid-ranged phone and yes it is mid ranged
      To me 22k is super high-end price range I can't go over 26k for a dumb device

    • @SuyashSharma8
      @SuyashSharma8 13 дней назад

      Exactly 💯💯

  • @blessonsamuel.s9881
    @blessonsamuel.s9881 18 дней назад +1

    Im using Redmi Note 7pro released in 2019 with Corning gorilla glass 5 on both front & back and it costs only 15k at 2019 😌

  • @balchandravora557
    @balchandravora557 19 дней назад +1

    Why are u not talking about the Pre-Book offer ?

  • @bulolo_wilber
    @bulolo_wilber 17 дней назад

    My only gripe with the 8a are those bezels, the best design feature is the very thin camera visor, good for the lads who complain about thick camera islands. This phone is the epitome of a simple phone, love it 🤗

  • @meetsiddhu3455
    @meetsiddhu3455 19 дней назад +3

    nah the s23 goes for 48k. go for that pls. or wait till 8 gets discounted.....

  • @jee098
    @jee098 17 дней назад

    Pixel 3a was the best A series phone. The price was actually for midrange segment. And there wasn't unnecessary so called premium features to increase the price. There was no tensor g series to heat up the phone like crazy. That sd 630 at that time was enough to run the phone for minimum 3-4 years.

  • @dhaneshs3618
    @dhaneshs3618 19 дней назад +2

    With the launch of 8a , the pixel 8 price increased to 76K

  • @VipinKumar-mw4dw
    @VipinKumar-mw4dw 19 дней назад +2

    18W fast charging, great....like yeah that's an understatement.

  • @xdadev
    @xdadev 19 дней назад +1

    As I'm not into heavy gaming, I would pick the Pixel 8a over every other phone had it been launched at 40k.

  • @kunalsharma7973
    @kunalsharma7973 19 дней назад

    Amazing Review and brilliant editing 🎉 😍

  • @satwiktatapudi5710
    @satwiktatapudi5710 16 дней назад

    Please tell me the battery checker app bro you used in every video which shows the mAh.

  • @young_n._older
    @young_n._older 19 дней назад

    So they made the 8 Pro with matte back and glossy sides but 8 has glassy back and matte sides. 8A has both in matte. Should have waited for the 8A

  • @shubham-------
    @shubham------- 19 дней назад +4

    I will never buy a phone with that bezzels no matter how good it is

    • @thetvtech
      @thetvtech 19 дней назад

      Who cares

    • @Andrew-it7fb
      @Andrew-it7fb 19 дней назад

      Good for you? I'll never buy a phone with a glass back or screen that curves around the edge.

  • @vimalstark7878
    @vimalstark7878 19 дней назад

    What about bezels comparison between 7a and 8a?

  • @PrinceGautam-hh4uo
    @PrinceGautam-hh4uo 18 дней назад

    how smart a company's marketing analysis and how stupid is clearly reflected in pricing but there is a thin line between both

  • @yashchandak8016
    @yashchandak8016 19 дней назад +1

    3.06 he said pixel 7a instead of 8a we all got it wrong while pixel. Not a surprise at all

  • @Smykonis
    @Smykonis 19 дней назад

    8 on Amazon is the same price. Why choose 8a?

  • @aexthetics.
    @aexthetics. 19 дней назад

    Acer Swift Go 14 EVO OLED
    Lenovo yoga slim 6i
    Asus S15 OLED
    Which is best? On your opinion

  • @News24city_
    @News24city_ 17 дней назад +1

    Hoogle is getting back to its greedy prices like before . There phone 6a was selling good at 30k and thats it . They got their greed pretty soon.

  • @tanmayseth3575
    @tanmayseth3575 18 дней назад

    I don't know what is the problem with bezels. Why do people want bezel less phone?? Just why?

  • @badblast7774
    @badblast7774 18 дней назад +2

    How can anyone even suggest a phone like this even it is priced around 30k, kya kare 7 saal ka updates jab ufs3.1 diya gaya ho aur 8,00,000 ka score bhi nhi aa raha ho, after 3 years it will be useless for heavy softwares, and charging speed is a hell for the people, just 18w come onn, experience ke liye tho moto edge 50 pro lelo isse tho behtar hi rahega in everything except camera, even if someone want to buy a phone for camera, it comes without a telephoto, Think it is a 30k mobile even then this should be not be considered by people.
    BTW i am not even considering the bezels and heating issues it have.

  • @zeuronplana8541
    @zeuronplana8541 15 дней назад

    Fasta and canvinient.His accent cracks me up 😂😂

  • @ciprianadrian21
    @ciprianadrian21 17 дней назад

    I honestly would have preferred to have a camera upgrade instead of a display upgrade .

  • @sudarshanraja9556
    @sudarshanraja9556 19 дней назад

    Astrophotography mode available?

  • @manojj5213
    @manojj5213 16 дней назад

    Please explain on Xiaomi 14 full specifications and testing details

  • @sainaresh7398
    @sainaresh7398 18 дней назад +1

    The brand killed its own phone.

  • @dhananjaykadam9679
    @dhananjaykadam9679 19 дней назад

    How's the network connectivity part?? Same issues compared to 7a Or resolved??

    • @vashishtmadhur
      @vashishtmadhur 19 дней назад

      Heating and network issues are less compared to 7a but they are still there

  • @abhijitmishra5243
    @abhijitmishra5243 18 дней назад

    Been using pixel 6a for a year now and I am honestly very satisfied with it.
    My main requirement was a mid-range, good camera phone which pixel 6a surely gives.... The hype is very true!
    And I have compared it's pictures with other top tier mobiles, be it apple or samsung or even vivo x series mobiles, and pixel 6a never disappoints.
    The main thing that stands out in pixel cameras is how they produce very balanced and realistic pictures. They may look dull sometimes to certain ppl, but you may tweak them according to your own taste.... But again, trust me you don't actually need to tweak them.
    People talk about it's over-heating issues and very surprisingly, by God's grace I never faced such issues even in peak summers of 41 or 43°c!
    My only small concern is with the battery life of 6a.... Battery life is mediocre at best.
    And it has a vast scope to improve.
    Otherwise it's a great phone in every sense!
    And it's not for gamers. Frankly I don't think any of the Google pixel phones are originally meant for gaming.

  • @siddu9068
    @siddu9068 19 дней назад

    Huh Goggle have to make a phone with thinner borders but 90hz display with Tensor G1s(similar to 8Gen s ) and same design with plastic body and a single camera with a depth sensor around 30 to 35k. A Dream of mine.

  • @usmanabdulkadir3334
    @usmanabdulkadir3334 19 дней назад

    Great content keep it up as always love your video bro

  • @bulolo_wilber
    @bulolo_wilber 17 дней назад

    7 years of software and security updates 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @NagarajCruze
    @NagarajCruze 10 дней назад

    53k for a mid-range phone? I was about to suggest 8A to my brother thinking it will cost less than 40k, but I think I live in stone age.

  • @jha1309
    @jha1309 19 дней назад +2

    I would rather buy one plus 12r than this, 53k and so many compromises wont work in India boss

  • @sydguitar99
    @sydguitar99 19 дней назад

    Even though Google uses the same chips in their high-end phone, that chip is still slower than the Snapdragon 8 gen 3 so it's not saying much

  • @tusharnagpal741
    @tusharnagpal741 18 дней назад

    Make a difference video between Google pixel 8a and Samsung s23

  • @shivampadhan4941
    @shivampadhan4941 19 дней назад

    They made bezel thick only to differ it from p8

  • @Nevi-bc1dl
    @Nevi-bc1dl 17 дней назад

    My 30k phone has amoled curved 120 hz screen with 1400 nits max brightness.... With 1 M antutu score, cameras might be better on pixel but hey i mostly click manual and with editing you can almost close the gap.

  • @Phoenix-ju8hf
    @Phoenix-ju8hf 18 дней назад

    I like a series they shouldn't discontinue it.

  • @ramchaitanya9504
    @ramchaitanya9504 19 дней назад

    at 3:60 you said Pixel 7A instead of 8A

  • @manojj5213
    @manojj5213 16 дней назад

    Please explain on Xiaomi 14 full specifications testing details

  • @raswanthjayaprakash3109
    @raswanthjayaprakash3109 17 дней назад

    1:31 Really bro.. 🤦🏻‍♂️
    please dont mention 18w charging as fast charging in 2024

  • @user-mh6lj5vh9p
    @user-mh6lj5vh9p 19 дней назад +1

    Phone - 😺
    Price. -🦁

  • @Hyzen-os9ed
    @Hyzen-os9ed 19 дней назад

    I played heavy games and also used mobile data 5g never faced heating (I have pixel8)

  • @unapologetic19
    @unapologetic19 18 дней назад

    At 3:06 , you said 7A instead of 8A 😅

  • @tusharsharma9983
    @tusharsharma9983 17 дней назад

    Pixels are great phones in terms of software experience and still photography, but the after sales support is nearly absent. S23 is a very good option. It's compact, feels premium and has a good display (better than most iphones), the photos are great too. Moreover the network connectivity issues are absent. I purchased S23 256gb from an offline retailer for 48k. It was a good deal. If pixel service centers are available in less prominent cities, they will become unbeatable in 30-40k segment.

  • @sojoysaha5742
    @sojoysaha5742 17 дней назад

    The pocket mode on my Galaxy note 10 lite doesn't work half of the time.

  • @sukhesh445
    @sukhesh445 19 дней назад

    I would actually buy S23 8/ 256 for that price , it almost beats 8A in all areas

  • @sanketchhajer
    @sanketchhajer 19 дней назад +2

    That's what she said. 😂👍🏻

  • @MrMasudal
    @MrMasudal 18 дней назад

    If you need a pocket heater, you may buy pixel 8a for upcoming winter.

  • @akkiraaaaaaaaa
    @akkiraaaaaaaaa 18 дней назад

    The display looks like its aftermarket display 😂😂

  • @AmalJoseph-uf1hc
    @AmalJoseph-uf1hc 19 дней назад

    I can't even think about how those big big bessels look in reality 😂

  • @ramakrishnamanukonda757
    @ramakrishnamanukonda757 16 дней назад

    How about a comparison video between Samsung s23 Fe and this pixel 8a ? @TechWiser

  • @samnafiszahinsunny8725
    @samnafiszahinsunny8725 18 дней назад

    What about network issues

  • @sayanmandal2246
    @sayanmandal2246 19 дней назад +1

    Pixels are good...if only the heating would be less, they'd be great.

  • @pseudousername1145
    @pseudousername1145 15 дней назад

    6 months later when its available for under 40k, people will be recommending it

  • @subhadipdatta3613
    @subhadipdatta3613 19 дней назад

    It's better to wait for the pixel 9 series.....

  • @manojj5213
    @manojj5213 16 дней назад

    Please explain on Xiaomi 14 full specifications

  • @krazzyrahul8092
    @krazzyrahul8092 18 дней назад +3

    My 2019 Realme XT has Gorilla glass 5 both front and back 🙄.

    • @jee098
      @jee098 17 дней назад

      Gorilla glass 3 is more scratches resistant than 5 and victus series. So I think protection wise it's okay but other things are unacceptable such as that ugly asymmetrical bezels and the price

    • @jee098
      @jee098 17 дней назад

      Also that 18w charging in 2024 is atrocious

  • @shoaibtheshariff8990
    @shoaibtheshariff8990 19 дней назад +4

    I love all the Google pixal phones and stock Android software is amazing.

  • @Tom123754
    @Tom123754 19 дней назад

    What about the signal reception 🤔

    • @vashishtmadhur
      @vashishtmadhur 19 дней назад +1

      better than its previous generations but still worse for the competition and price bracket

  • @KrushiBhavishya
    @KrushiBhavishya 19 дней назад

    I just purchased google pixel 7 pro from Flipkart under open box policy..after 2nd day of delivery.. volume key button fell of..its really heart yar..help me how to solve this problem.. Flipkart not provide any help not taken return the Mobile.. seriously google can do this.. I'm not only one guy after i search same problem on RUclips lots of videos available on RUclips..😔💔
    Google 💔 ❌

  • @saswatmeher05
    @saswatmeher05 18 дней назад

    1:12 its way too old. My Asus zenfone 3 had gorilla glass 3 in front and back. This is a 2016 phone.

  • @tamilvananm4432
    @tamilvananm4432 19 дней назад

    Waiting for this....

  • @yogeshrathore5961
    @yogeshrathore5961 18 дней назад

    18W Fast Charging ?

  • @mayurdahiwale5907
    @mayurdahiwale5907 19 дней назад

    18W charging? Is this 2018

  • @Joseph-il5yc
    @Joseph-il5yc 19 дней назад

    Thank you for speaking in the same language as the title of the video

  • @Petrolhead11
    @Petrolhead11 19 дней назад

    Only if it was launched below 30k