This is going to take things to the next level. Just to have automations for TuN is going to simplify installation in the install bay. Thus by saving time to get to the next vehicle. Super stoked and so glad to Support JL Audio since 1992 for me.
Oh cool, im not at a JL audio dealer as an installer anymore, I did it for the better part of 17 years I've been out of it for about 13 years. So I go all the way back to jls first attempt at car speakers and the launch of the slash series amps. Back when JL made the orignal w6 series speakers pre w 7 speakers and durring the w7
What integration interface are you using in the demo vehicle? I know the ZEN-AVB was pulled from the market (I have an OG one that glitches every so often using toslink into my twk d8) but is supposed to be re-released soon.
Alrighty @JLAudio what USB Microsoft would you recommend for a DIYer like my self using TuN 4.0 and a Laptop with Windows 10, I know that there is a Rysen 5700 CPU in it and 8GB of RAM I got plenty of storage in it other then the low 8GB of RAM. I did a C7 system in my 2019 Ford Flex and even Though it's only been about 5 months since I've had the system installed using HD amps and 2 TWK88s I would like to Declutter my car a bit and throw in 2 VXi amps to cover those 4 HD amps job. I would most likely do the whole Rebuild on my channel and took some feedback from my subscribers about getting an RTA, I feel the TuN 4.0 and a USB mic is more than good enough for me since I don't run a shop and I'm simply doing this as a Hobby. Any feedback from you guys would be appreciated. On my PC I have 1 USB Type C thunderbolt 4 port with backwards compatibility and a USB 3.2 USB port.
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This is awesome. As a consumer of JL Audio car audio products I would want to know what dealers have this equipment available. Will JL Audio be able to provide information on which dealers are setup to tune with the JL Audio MAX system hardware?
Hi JL Audio! Long time user of your products first time C7/Vxi buyer. With the Max have you all provided your local JL Audio resellers and licensed installers here in Florida with the equipment necessary to provide a Tuning service with the Max? Once I get my C7 setup finished I'm looking for a local audio shop to tune my C7/Vxi system with your max equipment to really fine tune everything. Or could I drive down to Miramar and have you all do it professionally for me when my setup is complete? Thank you JL Audio for a great product.
Thank you for reaching out and we appreciate the support! Those may be questions better suited for our tech team. Feel free to send them a support ticket with this link: jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
I’m planning on starting my own business soon in the car audio industry, starting off by just replacing and upgrading friends speakers and installing amps, eventually going to be building custom subwoofer boxes and a pillars just gotta do more practice, will the JL Max have everything I need to get started or is there more I have to invest into?
Thank you for reaching out! This is very exciting! This question may be better suited for our tech team. Feel free to submit a request here: jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
I dont see installers buying this for there own toolboxes, but I recommend dealers invest in this as it can add a revenue stream you do not now have. It will also show what shops are decated to perfection. As for none JL audio dealers looking for this will it be offered to anyone to buy. I can see someone who compeats spending the money on one. Or lets say the home audio installer and or audiophile. How can this be used on a home Av system that has its own mic and setup built into the AVR like my advantage 3040.
Ok Guys, this is somthing you need to developed for home audio also, its not like you dont have your foot in that door, you do. But this is somthing av systems could benefit from, like Yahama has a selfe tune system but this could bundle with other products in home audio as well as automotive audio. Rockford got its start in home audio years ago then moved into car audio and never went back JL started in home audio went to car audio and broke the mold of home audio with its subwoofers I belive there is room in home audio for JL to expand as it is in mobile audio. Products like these are cutting edge Making a system computer based that can set up a 11.2 system or even more could go as far as doing true movie theaters and other commercial systems. How sensitive are the mics.
Microphone sensitivity: The microphone’s sensitivity is approximately 7.6 mV/Pa. These microphones feed a purpose-engineered analog front end & ADC buffer, which feeds 5 individual, differential inputs of a 24 bit Delta Sigma ADC. The dBFS level at 1 pascal (94 dB SPL) is ~ -39.5 dBFS.
TuN and MAX are an audio measurement system, not really a stand-alone sound processor that is installed into a system. TuN and MAX can be used to help set a wide range of parameters in home theater or stereo systems, such as subwoofer to main speaker integration.
I can see tuning a system with this is time intensive your going to have to charge labor with this time in mind if it takes an hour the 1 hour shop time, this is clearly a reason to bill the customer for this time, becuse its taking away bay time you could be charging to do somthing else, this tools not cheap im going to bet its 1500 to 2k dollars or even more, the customer just spent that much or more to get to the point to even use this on his system, he's looking for perfection in sound qulity, dont give it away. Shop time 150.00 dollars and thats cheap go to the dealer for auto repairs you spend a lot more depending what brand car it is. Most shops charge 160 an hour shop time or even more.
Thank you for reaching out. For more information on our Max Audio Measurement System including pricing, visit our website here: www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602
For more photos and information on MAX, visit www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602 For more photos and information on TüN™ 4, visit www.jlaudio.com/pages/discover-tun%E2%84%A2-4-0-jl-audio-s-dsp-tuning-software
Too bad they wont enable a lot of these functions to work with TwK88 & D8 DSPs. Multiple functions only work with Jl Vi amps. I guess spending $500 on a JL DSP and another $1000 for JL amp isnt enough for them.
@@robhaynes210 I understand that TuN 4.0 just rolled out yesterday, but when can us TwK'ers expect TuN 4.1 to be available for us DSP TuN'er beginners?
@@robhaynes210 that's good to hear, I was super excited to see the long awaited helix-esque functionalities finally available in Tun then disappointed when I read it wasn't available for my TwK. I'm sorry to say I preferred my original helix DSP to my TwK88. I hope 4.1 comes out soon. Been a JL fanboy forever but Audiotech Fischer was taking you all to school with their extended DSP functionalities. I understand the importance of marketing timing in releasing the software update in sync with your max-kit but honestly it was long overdue. Looking forward to 4.1!!
It's called "auto set EQ" but isn't as quick and easy as they want it to be. They have the capability to be a sweep-and-done solution, but I didn't see that here. Taking notes from Yamaha's YPAO, Pioneer's Auto EQ, and Alpine's Audyssy would be helpful for us tuners.
@@JesseJames83 I guessed “auto eq” before the stream aired. But yeah, I was hoping for an alpine aidessy like solution. I really liked the results in my last car.
@@rtiid22 that was my guess too! 😁 Maybe they'll update the software for just us? From their site: "With TüN 4.0 in RTA mode and connected to an MVi or VXi system, you can use the “Autoset EQ” function. As the name implies, you simply click a button in the EQ panel and the software adjusts the parametric EQ automatically to fit your selected target curve. It is amazingly accurate, performing thousands of calculations to arrive at the best combinations of center frequency, “Q” and gain for all ten PEQ bands (or any number from 1-10 you wish to assign), and it does so in mere seconds, saving huge chunks of time and effort in the tuning process."
@@JesseJames83 , TüN and MAX are primarily an audio measurement platform. The Auto EQ and Delay setting functionalities built into the software interface with our car and marine DSP amplifiers, But, TuN and MAX are not intended to be permanently installed into an audio system and are not sound processors, such as what you would find in an AV Receiver that has some of the technologies you mentioned. Since we don't make receivers or pre/pros, we're not in that particular business at this time. You can use TuN and MAX to measure the before and after of those processes, however, and these measurement could guide you to make further adjustments in the receiver's menus. TuN and MAX are very useful for integrating subwoofers as well. The ability to see phase in real time, along with high resolution RTA is a big help in that process.
@@msmith954 that was wordy. I'm not sure I understood what you meant to say? I realize the Max is a tuning hardware kit that uses Tun 4, and is not a permanent fixture. I fully understand both the home and car versions of the tools I mentioned above.
This is cool software, but expensive, and still requires a decent amount of tuning knowledge to use it. For under $1k, a miniDSP 8X12 with Dirac Live is also very sophisticated, but also much easier to use, and it tunes beautifully, and I can use any amps I want with it. I won't be swapping it for the JL software.
![[Live] JL Audio Training | Using TüN™ 4 with USB Microphones & Sound Cards](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gL0QwzrJzF4/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[Live] JL Audio Training | TüN™ 4 & Autoset EQ to Target](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JFj9XnAUTt4/mqdefault.jpg)
So jl audio really just combined REW with dsp. I dig it. Having to switch between dsp menu and rew menus is annoying
This is going to take things to the next level. Just to have automations for TuN is going to simplify installation in the install bay. Thus by saving time to get to the next vehicle. Super stoked and so glad to Support JL Audio since 1992 for me.
Mr. Manville Smith.....
This is amazing sir!
JL Audio has me rethinking my 2022 competition season!
We greatly appreciate the love and support!
Oh Snap! TuN 4.0? I'm listening! 👂
Oh cool, im not at a JL audio dealer as an installer anymore, I did it for the better part of 17 years I've been out of it for about 13 years. So I go all the way back to jls first attempt at car speakers and the launch of the slash series amps.
Back when JL made the orignal w6 series speakers pre w 7 speakers and durring the w7
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 JL always a step ahead.
OMG Tun 4.0 ??? YESSSSS
TüN 4 Good Buddy. Can't wait to dive in.
Let us know if you have any questions!
Ingenious 101
Thank for this video
Thank you! Cheers!
What integration interface are you using in the demo vehicle? I know the ZEN-AVB was pulled from the market (I have an OG one that glitches every so often using toslink into my twk d8) but is supposed to be re-released soon.
It is a ZEN from NAV-TV. Glitches are few and far between, and we will update when new version is ready.
Alrighty @JLAudio what USB Microsoft would you recommend for a DIYer like my self using TuN 4.0 and a Laptop with Windows 10, I know that there is a Rysen 5700 CPU in it and 8GB of RAM I got plenty of storage in it other then the low 8GB of RAM. I did a C7 system in my 2019 Ford Flex and even Though it's only been about 5 months since I've had the system installed using HD amps and 2 TWK88s I would like to Declutter my car a bit and throw in 2 VXi amps to cover those 4 HD amps job. I would most likely do the whole Rebuild on my channel and took some feedback from my subscribers about getting an RTA, I feel the TuN 4.0 and a USB mic is more than good enough for me since I don't run a shop and I'm simply doing this as a Hobby. Any feedback from you guys would be appreciated. On my PC I have 1 USB Type C thunderbolt 4 port with backwards compatibility and a USB 3.2 USB port.
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This is awesome. As a consumer of JL Audio car audio products I would want to know what dealers have this equipment available. Will JL Audio be able to provide information on which dealers are setup to tune with the JL Audio MAX system hardware?
Hi JL Audio! Long time user of your products first time C7/Vxi buyer. With the Max have you all provided your local JL Audio resellers and licensed installers here in Florida with the equipment necessary to provide a Tuning service with the Max? Once I get my C7 setup finished I'm looking for a local audio shop to tune my C7/Vxi system with your max equipment to really fine tune everything. Or could I drive down to Miramar and have you all do it professionally for me when my setup is complete? Thank you JL Audio for a great product.
Thank you for reaching out and we appreciate the support! Those may be questions better suited for our tech team. Feel free to send them a support ticket with this link:
jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
It’s now on the list!
:)
I’m planning on starting my own business soon in the car audio industry, starting off by just replacing and upgrading friends speakers and installing amps, eventually going to be building custom subwoofer boxes and a pillars just gotta do more practice, will the JL Max have everything I need to get started or is there more I have to invest into?
Thank you for reaching out! This is very exciting!
This question may be better suited for our tech team. Feel free to submit a request here: jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
This is awesome!
awesome!
Seems to be a very great tool!
Thanks for the love! It really can be the night and day difference when tuning a system.
Wow!
I dont see installers buying this for there own toolboxes, but I recommend dealers invest in this as it can add a revenue stream you do not now have. It will also show what shops are decated to perfection.
As for none JL audio dealers looking for this will it be offered to anyone to buy.
I can see someone who compeats spending the money on one.
Or lets say the home audio installer and or audiophile.
How can this be used on a home Av system that has its own mic and setup built into the AVR like my advantage 3040.
Nice. It’s basically REW Integrated into the dsp.
JL, head and shoulders above the competition
Thanks for the kind words!
"Engineer This" 😉
Love it!
Ok Guys, this is somthing you need to developed for home audio also, its not like you dont have your foot in that door, you do. But this is somthing av systems could benefit from, like Yahama has a selfe tune system but this could bundle with other products in home audio as well as automotive audio.
Rockford got its start in home audio years ago then moved into car audio and never went back JL started in home audio went to car audio and broke the mold of home audio with its subwoofers
I belive there is room in home audio for JL to expand as it is in mobile audio.
Products like these are cutting edge
Making a system computer based that can set up a 11.2 system or even more could go as far as doing true movie theaters and other commercial systems.
How sensitive are the mics.
You can use it for home audio. There’s nothing that makes it car audio only. 👍
Microphone sensitivity:
The microphone’s sensitivity is approximately 7.6 mV/Pa.
These microphones feed a purpose-engineered analog front end & ADC buffer, which feeds 5 individual, differential inputs of a 24 bit Delta Sigma ADC.
The dBFS level at 1 pascal (94 dB SPL) is ~ -39.5 dBFS.
TuN and MAX are an audio measurement system, not really a stand-alone sound processor that is installed into a system. TuN and MAX can be used to help set a wide range of parameters in home theater or stereo systems, such as subwoofer to main speaker integration.
Saludos
I can see tuning a system with this is time intensive your going to have to charge labor with this time in mind if it takes an hour the 1 hour shop time, this is clearly a reason to bill the customer for this time, becuse its taking away bay time you could be charging to do somthing else, this tools not cheap im going to bet its 1500 to 2k dollars or even more, the customer just spent that much or more to get to the point to even use this on his system, he's looking for perfection in sound qulity, dont give it away. Shop time 150.00 dollars and thats cheap go to the dealer for auto repairs you spend a lot more depending what brand car it is. Most shops charge 160 an hour shop time or even more.
How much can I buy it for?
Thank you for reaching out. For more information on our Max Audio Measurement System including pricing, visit our website here: www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602
What is the MSRP going to be?????
$3,499
For more photos and information on MAX, visit
www.jlaudio.com/products/max-kit-audio-measurement-system-90602
For more photos and information on TüN™ 4, visit
www.jlaudio.com/pages/discover-tun%E2%84%A2-4-0-jl-audio-s-dsp-tuning-software
Too bad they wont enable a lot of these functions to work with TwK88 & D8 DSPs. Multiple functions only work with Jl Vi amps. I guess spending $500 on a JL DSP and another $1000 for JL amp isnt enough for them.
Ya really. I have a twk 88
The TWK is like $500 and it’s pretty damn good as is for $500 …. Any added features will be a bonus IMO
The next update of TüN™ 4 will include TwK™ functionality. We aren't forgetting about you TwK'ers! :)
@@robhaynes210 I understand that TuN 4.0 just rolled out yesterday, but when can us TwK'ers expect TuN 4.1 to be available for us DSP TuN'er beginners?
@@robhaynes210 that's good to hear, I was super excited to see the long awaited helix-esque functionalities finally available in Tun then disappointed when I read it wasn't available for my TwK. I'm sorry to say I preferred my original helix DSP to my TwK88. I hope 4.1 comes out soon. Been a JL fanboy forever but Audiotech Fischer was taking you all to school with their extended DSP functionalities. I understand the importance of marketing timing in releasing the software update in sync with your max-kit but honestly it was long overdue. Looking forward to 4.1!!
New products?
Yes!
Auto EQ?
It's called "auto set EQ" but isn't as quick and easy as they want it to be. They have the capability to be a sweep-and-done solution, but I didn't see that here. Taking notes from Yamaha's YPAO, Pioneer's Auto EQ, and Alpine's Audyssy would be helpful for us tuners.
@@JesseJames83 I guessed “auto eq” before the stream aired. But yeah, I was hoping for an alpine aidessy like solution. I really liked the results in my last car.
@@rtiid22 that was my guess too! 😁 Maybe they'll update the software for just us?
From their site:
"With TüN 4.0 in RTA mode and connected to an MVi or VXi system, you can use the “Autoset EQ” function. As the name implies, you simply click a button in the EQ panel and the software adjusts the parametric EQ automatically to fit your selected target curve. It is amazingly accurate, performing thousands of calculations to arrive at the best combinations of center frequency, “Q” and gain for all ten PEQ bands (or any number from 1-10 you wish to assign), and it does so in mere seconds, saving huge chunks of time and effort in the tuning process."
@@JesseJames83 , TüN and MAX are primarily an audio measurement platform. The Auto EQ and Delay setting functionalities built into the software interface with our car and marine DSP amplifiers, But, TuN and MAX are not intended to be permanently installed into an audio system and are not sound processors, such as what you would find in an AV Receiver that has some of the technologies you mentioned. Since we don't make receivers or pre/pros, we're not in that particular business at this time. You can use TuN and MAX to measure the before and after of those processes, however, and these measurement could guide you to make further adjustments in the receiver's menus. TuN and MAX are very useful for integrating subwoofers as well. The ability to see phase in real time, along with high resolution RTA is a big help in that process.
@@msmith954 that was wordy. I'm not sure I understood what you meant to say? I realize the Max is a tuning hardware kit that uses Tun 4, and is not a permanent fixture. I fully understand both the home and car versions of the tools I mentioned above.
I get it, is a badass product but they forgot the price tag??? 💵💵 and when I getting out on the market …
Thanks for watching, Raul. Pricing is on our website... we expect to ship the first units to customers in December.
Thanks, Raul! Take a look on our website. Pricing is listed there!
Different spokesman, please
23:30 you gave up on the highs, so sad.
This is cool software, but expensive, and still requires a decent amount of tuning knowledge to use it. For under $1k, a miniDSP 8X12 with Dirac Live is also very sophisticated, but also much easier to use, and it tunes beautifully, and I can use any amps I want with it.
I won't be swapping it for the JL software.
The TuN software is free and you can do quite a bit without investing in a MAX. The MAX just takes it to the next level.
Ingenious 101
Thank for this video
Thanks to you!