LIVE: Jamie Lewis Joins Carved Outta Stone
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- LIVE with Jamie Lewis where discussing the "myth of Arnold’s competitive preeminence in bodybuilding" along with realistic protein requirements - "Are we all eating too much protein?" Please tune in and bring your questions!
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Dennis Tinnerino was overlooked in the 80 Olympia,Big & Cut & Complete
Yes good point, man forgot about him totally in that spur of the moment. I thought Roger Walker looked great too
@@carvedouttastone I quite Frankly don’t like Walker Wide Waist Blocky and Bad Case of Gyno ,I actually Believe Anyone with Gyno even Small Amount If it’s Noticeable,Should not be Allowed to Compete,Looks Laughable,Also torn Pecs & Biceps ,(Maybe not allowed is Strong Words)But heavy deduction in Score.You’re a Cool Guy,Don’t want to tick you off that Much for disagreeing.I met them all in the day Pearl,Tinnerino,Platz Ferrigno,Sergio Oliva ,Bob Birdsong ,all in the late 70’s -Early 80’s
Mc Dish a couple months after Miss Olympia Win 🔥🔥🔥🔥Smoking Hot in a Velvet Tracksuit
@@retrobilly1719 hey mate I don't mind disagreement or debate at all, so yes, feel free to disagree any time as I respect your real world experience and intelligence also. Love that you to meet all those pros. A rare thing indeed
@@carvedouttastone Sergio Oliva was the Freakiest of them all ,His Arms Tri’s Bi’s and 4 arms Looked as big as his head ,Chest Back legs gigantic too ,I saw him Guest pose in 1984 in Colonie NY,Jay Cutler I believe was in the Teens Contest ( I think) .Sergio was also More defined than the Reports in the mags said ,When He posed He looked like dynamite explosion.He signed a Autograph for me,
He was wearing a dragon Komono as a Shirt ,Pinstriped Pants Cuban heel shows and Tons of gold Jewlery ,Gold Glasses too ,Looked unreal !all these Guys and I mean all of them I met 1-2 inches Shorter than quoted height even Lou
Also Sergio was a better poser than The mags said ,though He didn’t hold poses long enough
Jamie certainly does not pull his punches. I would agree that Serge Nubret could infact beat Arnold. He waa sabotaged in the 1975 Olympia. He arrived to compete and had trained to win. If you see pictues of him in that shape he was a definite threat to Arnold. He was sidelined and lost muscle after being told he could not compete.Later a deflated Nubret was allowed to compete. Arnold was in great shape but the final would be more controversial with an in shape and bigger Nubret.
Absolutely. It would have derailed the whole production if Serge was a legitimate threat, which he looked to be, because the whole charade would've been captured plainly on camera minus the obfuscation of Weider's literal and figurative airbrush
Roger Walker and non Arnold judges had Chris Dickerson for the win.
That was the consensus even among most Aussies. I think Roger Walker looked great that year too
WHEN JAMIE LEWIS SAID SERG NUBRET COULD BEAT ARNOLD ANYTIME
TELLS ME HE MUST HAVE BEEN DROPPED ON HIS HEAD AS A BABY
HE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH ME AND I URGE PEOPLE NOT TO FOLLOW
THIS FOOL.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOUR VIDEO'S ARE FANTASTIC.
Okay weider
GO MAKE ME A SANDWICH DUMBO@@Hp19956
I hope you continue to tune in to our LIVE casts, even if you have a difference in opinion. I don't agree with everything Jamie says but we still share the common goal of keeping the golden era and physical culture alive. He's just more spirited in his presentation whereas I'm....less so, lol 😂
YES I UNDERSTAND BUT WHEN PEOPLE
DOWN GRADE ARNOLD IT REALLY RUBS
ME THE WRONG WAY
ARNOLD BROUGHT BODY BUILDING
TO THE MAINSTREAM AND AT ONE STAGE
HE HAD LEGS NOT GROTESQUE VERSION OF MALE BEAUTY EG TOM PLATZ
I AM A TWO TIME MR AUSTRALIA SO
I CAN SPEAKE OF EXPERIENCE
ANY HOW GREAT WORK YOU ARE HOLDING THE GOLDEN FLEECE FOR REAL
PHYSICAL CULTURE WHICH IS WHAT BODYBUILDING IS. NOT A CHEMICAL FREAK SHOW IT'S BECOME
@pcblu1 thank you. Great to have a two time Mr Australia watching and commenting. Hope to see you again
Vasily Alexeyev cleaned and jerked 500lbs on a fixed bar with non rotating sleeves . He was state funded and was given a bonus for every world record he broke…. He quickly realised if he only increased the weight by 1/2 kg each time it would be beneficial to him … to say the least .
Great podcast !
Yes! That's apparently who Sergio was there to see. Thanks Eric! We were both a bit nervous going "live" for the first time, but will do more of these bite sized casts with various guests in the future
Vasily was a crazy mfka he got away with shit that nobody else did I even heard rumours bout him 187 a mfka n it wouldn’t surprise me, shit Anatoly pisarenko was a great lifter but due to him clashing with vasily he ended up quitting the sport or something like that, the guy was a menace 💯💯💯
Bertil Fox, robbed.
He was a specimen indeed
Dan Lurie held Great Shows and his Magazine was Awesome too,
Lots of Local & Regional Contests Held and Banquets after the Contests ,Very Good Comraderie,Read his Magazines as a Teenager MTI
I want to try and make a video about Dan eventually. His book is really interesting. Novel character
@@carvedouttastone That would be Great!
He was the Real Deal ,Bodybuilder & Strongman too
To be objective, bodybuilding is a pageant; a beauty contest
Definition wise it also falls under the purview of a "sport", but the athletic component mostly occurs BEFORE the pageant aspect.
Posing onstage however is no fkn joke. At that level of leanness, heat, dehydration etc, I challenge anyone who thinks it's easy to think it's not physically difficult enough to warrant at least a nod towards a respectable level of athleticism.
@@carvedouttastone It also can be a a nod towards a certain kind of obsessive compulsive personality and dysmorphia. A win at any cost mentality that have people reckless do everything including rat poison(DNP) to achieve their goals.
It's still a beauty contest opposed to an athletic contest
That's true that there is a degree of athleticism and that bodybuilders may be the face of fitness but not the paragons of health or fitness. Strongman was a great turn to performance and Wrestling has perhaps a perfect mix of the both.
Even though bodybuilding has had perhaps the greatest impact on training and exercise culture. I would say that aside from military training, I believe that civilian training is far too hyper specialized.
And specialization breeds fragility.
PS!
That's what I love about yours and Jamie's work, it's a history beyond aesthetics.
been watching your shorts! Great stuff! Thanks for the Ric Drasin nod
RIP-
Chris Dickerson and Roger Walker interchangeable for 1980 Olympia winner. I thought the 2 looked great
My two pics also. Chris was just unfortunately not the most overwhelming of Mr Olympias in his day, but better than an 81 Franco that's for sure
Great show lads!
Cheers again!
So much nonsense in this interview. Your solo stuff is great, and I get you don’t like Arnold but you’re letting that cloud any sense of objectivity. Serge beating Arnold any day is one of the stupidest things ever said in bodybuilding. Sergio was the greatest ever but he wasn’t screwed over because of racism, it was because he was terrible to work with and an arsehole who cost Weider money and caused problems with every other bodybuilder
Thanks for the comment. I do like Arnold. He's my favorite bodybuilder, but like us all he's done some crappy things that's doesn't fit with the narrative he's twisting now and I think it needs to be called out. Randy Roach likewise calls out the BS that went to with those earlier Olympias and how certain guys were "shut out" by Weider so "his investment" as he put it, could win. There's a good chapter called Mr Olympia or Mr Mockery that dives into some of the subterfuge
And hey I don't agree with my guests, but I'm not going to contradict them on air. I tried to correct subtly, the earl Maynard remark by saying Reg Park, but Jamie has his views and sometimes, live on air, the slipups happen. It's amazing how often I draw blanks while interviewing.
@@carvedouttastone thanks for the reply. Completely agree a lot of Arnold's recent stuff needs calling out. Love the channel, you've got some great videos on here.
@AW-gg3yw you're welcome mate. Glad you're enjoying the content; I'm gonna try to keep the standard high moving forward, so please subscribe and share my work if you see any value :-)
@@carvedouttastone subscribed 👍
Thanks again!
Jamies freakin great
Fk yeah another one this is always a good thing to find in the new things on yt 💯💯💯
Really glad you checked it out mate. It was a fun cast to do where we could just dive and get it done minus the editing fuss and scripting. Thanks again
Going by the photos from the 1980 Olympia I still like Mentzer's physique the most. To me his physique looked the hardest. Amazing what steds can do though given Arnold came in a late notice.
I think even Mike admits that he was off that show due to some behind the scenes issues with water retention. But in his words, he was happy with anyone winning but Arnold that day. The long and short of it is, Arnold didn't follow protocol or procedure for entering that contest in the first place. Regardless of how he looked, he shouldn't have even been there. In the end, he was a shadow of his former self and the stink followed him for years after
Classic fwerfin
Quick correction for Jamie. The 1.6g/kg of bodyweight is what the science is currently saying maximizes hypertrophy, so he's right. But the conversion to g/lbs was off. 1.6g/kg converts to ~0.73g/lb. Anyway, hope you guys do more of these! This conversation was great!
Thanks Matt. Will pass it on to Jamie!
Hey there! I'm about to order the powerlifting pack and dive in (from Jamie's website), but I''m also considering getting the Feast, Famine, and Ferocity book. My question is, I read all of the original articles on plague of strength, is there a ton of new helpful information in the book that is not in the articles, or would my money be better spent on bite-sized history or one of the others like juggeryoke or biceptual protocol? Thanks in advance! I'm a huge fan of both of you guys and learned a whole bunch.
Thanks mate really appreciate the feedback and support. Will shoot this over to Jamie who will get back to you soon
Where did Jamie come up with the idea that people were living off of savory oatmeal and beans and couldnt get meat year round? I can tell you it was the opposit we could always hunt,and though tedius we could even fish. But we couldnt raise crops year round. And as far as bodybuilding contest in the 60s and 70s I can only say that everyone I knew considerd the IFBB Mr O the top contest of the time. Not Dan Lurie,s contest or the NABA universe. The Mr America was considered almost like a beginers introduction to larger compition.
I'll ask him to reply back to you with his thoughts and I will add mine also after the fact. Thanks for watching mate
There's a good reason why hunter-gatherers converted to farming when they could: food surplus on far less land. To be able to support any number of people by hunting for food required vast tracks of land. Furthermore, hunting isn't easy work at all. It's far from a consistent meal. Beans and grains are far more consistent ways to get calories and their shelf life is far longer.
As for the IFBB, Jamie's right. The IFBB didn't really become the premier contest to win in bodybuilding until the late-70's. Regardless of who actually started the IFBB, it appears it was started as an alternative to the AAU Mr America contest in the 1940's. So, clearly, the Mr America had somre status amongst lifters than you're giving it credit.
@justinpaul3110 great answer. My thoughts exactly on both topics, but you nailed it
@@carvedouttastone hey, nice talking to you and Jamie the other day. Hopefully, you slept better than I did.
I always felt the 6 meals a day was seen as a practical approach for some that got blown out of proportion. Basically guys were trying to eat enough food and fit it around their day, so they ate more often. Then some one took that and made it gospel.
It's interesting because Franco and Arnold were surprised at the meal frequency in the US coming from Europe. They were initially 2-3 meals per day. Arnold had a notoriously low appetite. Once MRPs and protein pulsing became linked to marketing it was like stated, the new gospel