Ed I’ve wanted to know exactly how to form walls the traditional method for several years. You explained this exceptionally well. Your experience and communicative skills are admirable. Thanks so much for explaining this in detail.
After looking and looking and looking, finally I came across this video. Thank you so much. I will be busy this summer building a 6’ tall by 10’ long and 8” wide retaining wall. Thanks again
Ed, that was one of the best tutorials I've watched. You have a very clear and concise delivery which makes is easy to follow and understand the content. Thanks for making this available.
Researching Symons panels and came across this and was rather impressed by how well this was done. I learned about alternative means which will assist greatly in my research.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on this topic. We're building an off-grid house on our property in Mexico, and I've been doing research on how to build these forms. Much appreciated!
Great video. You were really informative and went through not only the proper names but what the hardware is known as in the field. Thanks for the upload.
Excellent tutorial, Ed. Thank you for taking the time to explain so clearly and thoroughly. We could use more experienced trainers like yourself these days!
Agreed, THE BEST VIDEO explaining this concept. What a great communicator! You knocked this out of the park, it’s cleared up every question I had in this type of forming.
Mr. Stanley, Thank you for a great instructional video. I have been interested in learning how to properly build concrete forms. I look forward to watching your future videos about construction of concrete forms. I appreciate your sharing knowledge of construction in this video.
Excellent video. I spent a few years in concrete forming and this covers a lot of the basic stuff we used day in and day out. Great demonstration to. I find most guys learn visually in the field seeing this stuff set up and you demonstrated it well (minus the mud and colourful language I’m used to lol).
The extraordinary Vid, i really got hot to this content of video. I really appreciated, this kind of vid is what i have been looking for during this time coz it will help me at jobsite sometime. Thanks
This was in my recommended so I had to click. LOCAL 157 NYC CARPENTER AND PROUD OF IT TOO WORKED MY BUT OFF TO GET TO WHERE IM AT TODAY- Chris Alvarez 💪🏻
Only thing I see that I think matters is plumbing the wall from the face, instead of the wailers. You could push the 2x4 turnbuckle to push against the plywood while nailing to the strong back for additional support but the leveling is the main one for me lol. Love the video though! Very informational.
This video was for Ed to show just the hardware used for the wall forming project. If he makes another video I'll have him show how he does his projects from start to finish.
The only criticism (constructive) I can offer is that I think you should have had BOTH sides of the form constructed for the demo. You have to have both sides up prior to installing whalers, ties, hairclips or anything else. I absolutely love the snaptie whaler system of forming. It's amazing how well it straightens out wavy plywood. and makes a wall 10x stronger than CMU.
Very informative video, but I'd like to add that it might be better to use 4x4 and 2x4 for your uprights/strongbacks since it would allow the wedges to cover more surface area instead of sticking out 2 inches on either side. Also, the ends of the snap ties are nearly maxed out on the wedge and might not hold up against the pressure of concrete.
We need all those stuff you mentioned if we are planning to be builders/contractors who have another project to me or planning to be professional builders.
As a concrete finisher in the union I went through a 4-year apprenticeship program and working on the jobs with the Carpenters I became a carpenter and I was a part of 2375 before they change to what they are now in Southern California and let me tell you you're going through a for your apprenticeship program pays off you learn a lot more detail I believe and you punish it program then you do working for somebody that doesn't do that
How to set out or mark out t cone of snap tie so that all the snap tie that we install/applied would be the same in size or position? So it looks good.🙏
THANK YOU....THANK YOU....THANK YOU......ON YOUR 2X4 VERTICLE STRONG BACKS.....YOU DID NOT PUT 16 PENNY NAILS IN THE 2 2X4S TO JOIN THEM TOGETHER WITH THE SNAP TIE ROD IN THE MIDDLE......ALSO IF YOU ARE NOT USING THE METAL CORNER BRACKET.......ONE 2X4 COMES IN THE CORNER UNDER THE TIE ROD....THEN THE OTHER 2X4 COMES IN ABOVE THE ROD......BOTH ENDS ARE EXTENDED......NOW YOU CAN PUT 2 16 PENNY NAILS DIRECTLY AT THE OUTSIDE CORNER OF THE PLYWOOD.......NOW FINISH THE OUTSIDE CORNER FORM WITH STANDARD LOG CABIN STYLE.....I WAS A UNION CARPENTER 50 YEARS
I never nail the hair pins and I make sure none of the guys I’m working with does either, it’s way more tedious to strip? I just put a 16d nail at the top and bottom of the strong backs and a vibrator will never shake that apart
A first rate tutorial. I've looked at my share of videos to learn what I need to build forms for a retaining wall. Yours is crisp and clear and explains the (confusing to a newbie...) terminology. One question: is OSB OK for form walls? Assume so but you don't mention that detail. A++
Let's say I would have to build a form withouy engineering specifications. How do I choose if I want to go single waler or double? Also, are there rules of thumb for the center center spacing of the 2x4. Thanks.
It would have been nice to see the entire process from the placing of the wafer board upright, through to the bracing. you don't get a sense of how you initially start
1: layout walls both sides 2: secure 2x4 to outside wall lines including ply thickness to the wall, every 4' 3: start in corner with ply plumb up corner both ways(use wedge if needed to keep in place out side of wall) 4: nail corner to 2x4 then nail end of ply when plumb 5: next ply toenail top to old ply plumb up end and nail bottom 6: temp brace after 8' to not let it fall over, layout holes 2' x2' usually starting 1' up 1' over 7: inside corner holes on outside form wall thickness +9" (for hardware ) drill holes 8: work from corners to center of wall length cut 1 filler ply to finish wall form 9: put in ties, walers, and clamps overlapping waler ends to be a continuous waler
Holy cow it must take weeks to build a wall with this system. When I was working on a foundation crew we used the simplex forms. Building track homes in the 70’s we could strip set and pour one wall a day. Wow the amount of lumber it takes to build with this system is amazing. What a monumental waste of time, materials, and man hours. Oh wait, you're union, never mind. Great informative video though.
Yea ok because somehow union workers don’t work as hard. Please I’m union local 70 carpenter and we use this system but then again we are not scabs building simple little house we are a dedicated team building America’s infrastructure including high rises, bridges, parking garages, you name it. Not a quick turn around home with just a small pour
@Sun Chaser 78 yea my comment was directed towards the other joker but I can see how it can be misdirected. There is a misconception out there that somehow union workers don’t work as hard or are lazier, take more time doing things but that is not the case. I work hard and earn every penny every single day I’m at work
@@395glen Right On Brother! "Kickin' ass for the working class." You don't have to defend anything on our behalf my friend. The proof is when they look to the sky everyday & catch the skyline tops that block their view over their city. I double dog dare any one who begs to differ. Let em' hold on to a tagline & swing on a beam for an hour at 50 stories high in the sky in open air & connect just 1 beam with me? Then they can talk sh!t instead of sh!tting themselves? Blah,ha,ha!!! "UnionProud!" Ironworker Local-17
In those days the walls didn’t have a lot of rebar, if at all. This means they only form one side now instead of just sliding the rebar between the form walls. There’s also more paperwork bs involved. What that means the product is better now than whatever poor quality you used back in the day
Better than any apprenticeship instructor I had
Ed I’ve wanted to know exactly how to form walls the traditional method for several years. You explained this exceptionally well. Your experience and communicative skills are admirable. Thanks so much for explaining this in detail.
Im. Forming 6" wall 40" tall it being poured im 35 'at a time with 2 coners. On a 8"×8 foundations. Also 133 feet long. What bid would thT be.
Very informative - thank you! Your technique of repeating HW names makes all of us memorizing them by the end of the video :)
That was nothing short of OUTSTANDING!!! The one thumbs down must be from one of Ed's competitors!!!???
Most informative video I have found so far on explaining foundation wall framing. Thank you for making this video!
EXCELLENT VIDEO. This is the best video I have seen. Thank you for taking the time to make this education video.
A great presentation Mr Stanley, thankyou very much.
This is my goto video for new carpenter's in the field
The kind of perfection that concrete demands
Please make more
Good one Ed. A piece of really handy information displayed here. Thanks
After looking and looking and looking, finally I came across this video. Thank you so much. I will be busy this summer building a 6’ tall by 10’ long and 8” wide retaining wall. Thanks again
Ed, that was one of the best tutorials I've watched. You have a very clear and concise delivery which makes is easy to follow and understand the content. Thanks for making this available.
Thanks for the video people don’t throw this information out just anywhere
Researching Symons panels and came across this and was rather impressed by how well this was done. I learned about alternative means which will assist greatly in my research.
Gives me the confidence to build my own forms. Thanks so much..
This is one of the best videos I've seen on this topic. We're building an off-grid house on our property in Mexico, and I've been doing research on how to build these forms. Much appreciated!
Great video. You were really informative and went through not only the proper names but what the hardware is known as in the field. Thanks for the upload.
Excellent tutorial, Ed. Thank you for taking the time to explain so clearly and thoroughly. We could use more experienced trainers like yourself these days!
Agreed, THE BEST VIDEO explaining this concept. What a great communicator! You knocked this out of the park, it’s cleared up every question I had in this type of forming.
Mr. Stanley, Thank you for a great instructional video. I have been interested in learning how to properly build concrete forms. I look forward to watching your future videos about construction of concrete forms. I appreciate your sharing knowledge of construction in this video.
Awesome job Ed, thank you. This is valuable information for all of us DIY guys pouring concrete on the weekends. Union Strong!
You’re the best Ed. Much love and respect ✊🏻
Thanks Mr Stanley good day of school
Thank you Ed Stanley.
I’m a 2nd year apprentice local 279.. & this was very informative straight to the point, explaining everything that we need to know thanks brother
Thanks man alota guys go in knowing nothing i send them here cause this is the best ive seen yet you sir are now a legend.
Best video I’ve seen! Very helpful explains and shows you, now I know the actual name of the tools lol
Ed is a great teacher 👍👍
Excellent video, great use of terminology, very clear. good job
I remember taking these required classes back in the day. Bridge forming certification was cool too.
Excellent video. I spent a few years in concrete forming and this covers a lot of the basic stuff we used day in and day out. Great demonstration to. I find most guys learn visually in the field seeing this stuff set up and you demonstrated it well (minus the mud and colourful language I’m used to lol).
Hell yeah bro..thanks for the cletcha..local 213 Concrete city...
Love what im learning..love what I joined 🔨.
Wonderful! Nothing less.
Good video. Explained very well and straight to the point. Also around 17:10; we call them “panochas”😂
The extraordinary Vid, i really got hot to this content of video. I really appreciated, this kind of vid is what i have been looking for during this time coz it will help me at jobsite sometime. Thanks
This was in my recommended so I had to click. LOCAL 157 NYC CARPENTER AND PROUD OF IT TOO WORKED MY BUT OFF TO GET TO WHERE IM AT TODAY- Chris Alvarez 💪🏻
Thanks Ed. Much appreciated
VERY GOOD job on your video.
Great video! Very informative. Wish you had more, taking it further like adding in another section for a 50' retainer wall.
Right on brother, from the your brother 1503 concrete carpenter
Only thing I see that I think matters is plumbing the wall from the face, instead of the wailers. You could push the 2x4 turnbuckle to push against the plywood while nailing to the strong back for additional support but the leveling is the main one for me lol. Love the video though! Very informational.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!!! OUTSTANDING
Excellent video learned alot from you.
Thanks for the info! Great video!
excellent teacher.
Great video ! Thank you
5th period from 714 great job thanks for the video
Exceptional
Would like to know more about panel construction. Good video, thanks
I do miss doing concrete forming - but I also don't miss doing concrete forming - retired NE IL union carpenter
This video was for Ed to show just the hardware used for the wall forming project. If he makes another video I'll have him show how he does his projects from start to finish.
Thanks! Really informative. Great video!
Would really appreciate it. This was really good man!
Overall good video, hammers down. Now all we need is a smaller scale video showing how to stack sheets double wailers etc.
We need more of these!
You’re my hero!! Thank you
Nice demo!
The only criticism (constructive) I can offer is that I think you should have had BOTH sides of the form constructed for the demo. You have to have both sides up prior to installing whalers, ties, hairclips or anything else. I absolutely love the snaptie whaler system of forming. It's amazing how well it straightens out wavy plywood. and makes a wall 10x stronger than CMU.
Excellent! Thank you
Good work
The best education videos thank you very much you have a great day too
Very informative video, but I'd like to add that it might be better to use 4x4 and 2x4 for your uprights/strongbacks since it would allow the wedges to cover more surface area instead of sticking out 2 inches on either side. Also, the ends of the snap ties are nearly maxed out on the wedge and might not hold up against the pressure of concrete.
We need all those stuff you mentioned if we are planning to be builders/contractors who have another project to me or planning to be professional builders.
Thank you so much! Very need all carpenters experience
As a concrete finisher in the union I went through a 4-year apprenticeship program and working on the jobs with the Carpenters I became a carpenter and I was a part of 2375 before they change to what they are now in Southern California and let me tell you you're going through a for your apprenticeship program pays off you learn a lot more detail I believe and you punish it program then you do working for somebody that doesn't do that
Thanks, Ed!
Thanks sr...for education and information...
This guy needs his own channel teaching
Thank you for this video.This is really useful.
How to set out or mark out t cone of snap tie so that all the snap tie that we install/applied would be the same in size or position? So it looks good.🙏
very useful info, thank you Sir
Is OSB sufficient for a one time use or do you recommend plywood?
Excelente thanks sir very helpful video
I live on solid rock I want to form up a concrete wall 4 ft high and 135 ft long. What size does my footing need to be in width and thickness?
THANK YOU....THANK YOU....THANK YOU......ON YOUR 2X4 VERTICLE STRONG BACKS.....YOU DID NOT PUT 16 PENNY NAILS IN THE 2 2X4S TO JOIN THEM TOGETHER WITH THE SNAP TIE ROD IN THE MIDDLE......ALSO IF YOU ARE NOT USING THE METAL CORNER BRACKET.......ONE 2X4 COMES IN THE CORNER UNDER THE TIE ROD....THEN THE OTHER 2X4 COMES IN ABOVE THE ROD......BOTH ENDS ARE EXTENDED......NOW YOU CAN PUT 2 16 PENNY NAILS DIRECTLY AT THE OUTSIDE CORNER OF THE PLYWOOD.......NOW FINISH THE OUTSIDE CORNER FORM WITH STANDARD LOG CABIN STYLE.....I WAS A UNION CARPENTER 50 YEARS
Always learning!
How do you secure turnbuckle to the floor on concrete foundation?
Tapcon or better concrete fasteners, no remset type because of damage to a finiched floor
Thank you you helped me alot🙏
Where can I find this guys Chanel ?
I never nail the hair pins and I make sure none of the guys I’m working with does either, it’s way more tedious to strip? I just put a 16d nail at the top and bottom of the strong backs and a vibrator will never shake that apart
A first rate tutorial. I've looked at my share of videos to learn what I need to build forms for a retaining wall. Yours is crisp and clear and explains the (confusing to a newbie...) terminology.
One question: is OSB OK for form walls? Assume so but you don't mention that detail.
A++
Thanks Ed
Let's say I would have to build a form withouy engineering specifications. How do I choose if I want to go single waler or double? Also, are there rules of thumb for the center center spacing of the 2x4.
Thanks.
16 inch oc for 2x4 and depends on the thickness of your plywood
Interesting what the name of the hairpin on the field is?
whats the spacing for strongback?
this is great, thank you sir
Yes,it is a video that show an demonstrat through out the video
I noticed your using OSB. Is that for demo only or can osb be used to form and pour. I ask because osb is more affordable.
How tall of a wall can you form with plywood and what is the minimum plywood thickness needed?
Thanks ed
Thank you for the video sir! Is that the ontario training center? That’s where I did my apprenticeship school.
nothing beats union made
What's the layout pattern for the snap ties
Depends on wall thickness
8" you can do one foot 1',3' from the edge and then 1 3 5 7 for the length
Muy bueno!!!! Thank You.
All i can hear is Adam Sandler waterboy!! Correct me if I'm wrong but thats a sweet louisiana accent
It would have been nice to see the entire process from the placing of the wafer board upright, through to the bracing. you don't get a sense of how you initially start
1: layout walls both sides
2: secure 2x4 to outside wall lines including ply thickness to the wall, every 4'
3: start in corner with ply plumb up corner both ways(use wedge if needed to keep in place out side of wall)
4: nail corner to 2x4 then nail end of ply when plumb
5: next ply toenail top to old ply plumb up end and nail bottom
6: temp brace after 8' to not let it fall over, layout holes 2' x2' usually starting 1' up 1' over
7: inside corner holes on outside form wall thickness +9" (for hardware ) drill holes
8: work from corners to center of wall length cut 1 filler ply to finish wall form
9: put in ties, walers, and clamps overlapping waler ends to be a continuous waler
good job Eric@@ericbeder1419
Awesome vid,thanks for the insite
Can you reuse the osb for other concrete jobs or is that one use and done?
osb only used in a training center, Evans 107 or better,
Can the corner look used on the inside face of the form
Why not nail the turnbuckle head into the strong back so you can adjust it and look at the level at the same time
Too close to the vibrator , could come loose,
Holy cow it must take weeks to build a wall with this system. When I was working on a foundation crew we used the simplex forms. Building track homes in the 70’s we could strip set and pour one wall a day. Wow the amount of lumber it takes to build with this system is amazing. What a monumental waste of time, materials, and man hours. Oh wait, you're union, never mind. Great informative video though.
Yea ok because somehow union workers don’t work as hard. Please I’m union local 70 carpenter and we use this system but then again we are not scabs building simple little house we are a dedicated team building America’s infrastructure including high rises, bridges, parking garages, you name it. Not a quick turn around home with just a small pour
@Sun Chaser 78 yea my comment was directed towards the other joker but I can see how it can be misdirected. There is a misconception out there that somehow union workers don’t work as hard or are lazier, take more time doing things but that is not the case. I work hard and earn every penny every single day I’m at work
@@395glen Right On Brother! "Kickin' ass for the working class." You don't have to defend anything on our behalf my friend. The proof is when they look to the sky everyday & catch the skyline tops that block their view over their city. I double dog dare any one who begs to differ. Let em' hold on to a tagline & swing on a beam for an hour at 50 stories high in the sky in open air & connect just 1 beam with me? Then they can talk sh!t instead of sh!tting themselves? Blah,ha,ha!!! "UnionProud!" Ironworker Local-17
In those days the walls didn’t have a lot of rebar, if at all. This means they only form one side now instead of just sliding the rebar between the form walls. There’s also more paperwork bs involved. What that means the product is better now than whatever poor quality you used back in the day
can we use that plywood instead of metal form for concrete pour.?
Aluminum for metal form. And there is also a form made in plastic
I loved everything except that hammer