Never would I have believed that you could dial in that part on a 4 jaw by eye and so fast and with precision. Amazing skill. I'll learn a shit load from you so I subscribed
No chatter on finishing cut, no chatter on radius cut, you got mad skills, Max! 🤣 Got a chuckle when you showed the big birdsnest, been there. Glad you found a way around it considering the amount of material coming off there 😁. Looking good mate! Cheers! 👍😊👍
G'day Max, thanks so much for reminding me about Steady Eddy. I hadn't heard that name for many years. I went and watched some videos of him - soo funny!
A good one is a short one ! Shop time is like '' Gold '' at the moment , as i have a lot on with the shop build & property maintenance this time of year ! Cheers .
Hi Max Re coolant on carbide - my experience as an ex Seco Tools guy make sure you have a constant flow over the tool during the cutting process. Reason being is the cutting edge will heat up, in heavy cutting conditions get to red hot. Now one can imagine that red hot area getting a shot of coolant its going to crack the carbide by what is called "thermal cracking". A bit like taking the old glass milk bottle from the fridge and using the last of the milk and then rinsing out under hot water, one will find the bottom of the bottle in the sink. Difficult to see with the naked eye but it will be there. What follows next is the insert will fail with the end coming off. Carbide will cut OK without coolant so unless you want to keep your job cool try running without it. The heat will go out in the chips. Seco Tools do a very good technical guide on all cutting data and trouble shooting and failures of carbide inserts. I hope this information helps you and other followers to your excellent film clips. Being an ex fitter and turner I admire the way you expalin things and use down to earth language when things don't go right. Cheers Ian - New Zealand
Hi Ian . I will nearly always run coolant as best as i can get it onto the insert without making a huge mess , just to keep the job cool . And to keep the chips from burning the fuk out of you ! Yes the thermal cracking can be an issue but i generally find running dry can be worse for insert life when you can not run the insert at their designed parameters . Thanks for your input , always valuable from an ex tool dealer . Cheers .
I have been watching machinist videos for two years. Saving my money to get my first lathe. I'm so close now I can taste that evening brewsky. You're channel had taught me so much good stuff, I want to say, thank you, when you're new shop is done I'll be looking for that Swan Valley T-shirt. Cheers Max. 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop You can't say you've drank all day if you don't start in the morning. I agree though, those all day shifts in the beer parlour are a long hard pull now days.
In the small mining town that my wife grew up in all the houses were sided with asbestos. She said when they were young they would use broken chunks of the siding like chalk to draw on the sidewalk. I can just picture a typical scene from back then (1970's). Draw her name on the sidewalk in asbestos, jump into her dads truck, sans seatbelts, and drive around with the windows rolled up while her parents smoked like a couple of chimneys, with no guarantee that the guy behind the wheel was sober.
Another fine video Max, great taper, nice finish on the radius. I think that tool is going to be a fine addition to arsenal once complete. Looks like we are in for some more rain again next week, I was sure you said we were done and could get some work completed outside 😀
Coming on nicely Max, I reached the same conclusion 2 seconds into your first cut on that billet, me thinks you would have no problem hardening that bit! Cheers, Jon
i have a question we study you doing this build . do you think the ues of a for jour chuck . will make the opatunity of cutting tapes on the late easer between centres preps you may tell us you opinions in this approach to taper cutting . ? thank you .
Hi Les . you will not be able to cut tapers between centres with a chuck in the tailstock . They are for supporting long work for parallel turning that can not normally be supported by a centre .
Thanks Paul . Wow ,you would have seen your fair share of rocket launches living there , how cool . A wonderful weekend working flat out on the new shop build ! Cheers. .
@@swanvalleymachineshop yes but I think the scroll is worn badly, it’s the original 3 jaw that was on my Mars Hercules lathe, think it’s older then me…
@@MattysWorkshop Old is good ! I have to finish watching your last video , i was watching the start yesterday on my phone while i was working on the new shop . Looks like some small parts !
Max, since this hub material is 4140 or similar, what is your flange material? Will it be "weld compatible" with the 4140? Also, I've noticed that you tend to aim your coolant onto your tool instead of onto the part where the cut will take place -- do you find that this provides extra cooling and makes your inserts last longer or something like that?
The coolant is supposed to go onto the insert , not always possible though . I do find that generally the inserts last longer & can give a better finish with coolant . I will use low hydrogen 16TC rods & they will work fine , just a slight pre heat .
Hey Max, Great videos, I love the way you are pushing that lathe to the limit! I am thinking of getting the same size lathe as you have there and was wanting to know what size tooling are you using? I am in Perth (SOR) also and was wondering where you get your tooling from? When I search online I only seem to find the cheap and cheerful stuff.... Regards John (found you from watching Dave M in the states who recommended Matty's Workshop who recommended you...full circle YT)
You should use 16mm tooling for that size lathe . I use 20 mm , but machine it down to 19mm to fit the tool blocks . I use that size so it will fit my other machines . Teravin tooling is where i get a lot of stuff from , not cheap though ! They sell a lot of very high quality Korean made stuff . Other high end brands i search on line & have collected over the years . There were a few modifications to the apron drive that i did to that lathe to be able to push it like i do with out doing any damage , they are in the lathe modification series from some time ago . Cheers .
G'day from Tassie, Max, great timing for the vid, right on beer o'clock, re hardening, if you got some hardness from the oil quench?, why not try another scrap in a salty water mix? (with a little soap powder), the water is a fast quench, and may just get you over the line, or shatter like so many of my first blades;). Steady Eddie was a crack up on Hey Hey. Have a good one, Scott.
I have watched with great interest the making of this tail stock chuck. When you turned the Morris taper 4 you set the compound to move 208 thou over 4 inches. How did you arrive at the 4 inches and what would be a couple of examples for other Morris tapers . Your Canadian friend Keith. ( out on the prairies in Saskatchewan)
@@swanvalleymachineshop I’m sorry to bother you but I have no idea where to start or what I’m looking up in the machinery handbook. Could you possibly do a video and walk us through step by step on the procedure you use. Keith
Following Max, this is a interesting project mainly because when it's done you'll wonder why you waited so long to do it, a live chuck tailstock makes total sense in so many ways. By the way Max, I have been meaning to ask you what make and size your lathe is.
I have been meaning to build one for a long time , just never got around to it ! The lathe in the video is a Hare & Forbes AL960B . 300mm swing over the bed , about 900mm between centres .
Always interesting content, Max. You really worked magic with that radius tool. I was watching with anticipation and it ended up so smooth. I also think its funny that you shoot your intros at the time of day where you might consider an outro. It that even a word? Great stuff.
I've been struggling with my little lathe on 4140 with cnmg, getting a better result with ccmt, but still just tight spirals, not chips. I might see if I can get some tnmg tooling to fit it and give that a go. Looks like I might have to grind down a 16mm tool to fit though, not seeing any 12mm tooling so far.
Great work as always Max. It's coming along nicely and seems like a fairly straightforward project. Not sure I would ever need a tail mounted chuck. I am curious what you are going to use it on. As far a Steady Eddie, I had that nickname as well as others as a kid. I was not aware of the Aussie comic, will have to check that out. Thanks for the kind words. All the best! Oh and I prefer whiskey when operating my power tools😁
Hey Max enjoying your videos, i do a bit of machining also and im picking up some good tips. You look very familiar to me ,do you work for Georgiou in Perth as a fitter?
Lookin good. You won't need that tang particularly hard for the tailstock, not like you will e drifting it loose 5 times a day or anything.. Avagoodweekend!
Had to give a thumbs up just for the safety soda. Cheers from the states. Great work.
Thanks 👍
Thunder box 😆 and I've just seen the sticker on the lathe there buddy 👍😉
Lol !
Never would I have believed that you could dial in that part on a 4 jaw by eye and so fast and with precision. Amazing skill. I'll learn a shit load from you so I subscribed
Thank you .
I thought the same thing.
Cracker of a thunder box there mate! Not enough around these days! Going to build one on my block I reckon
You can't beat them when you have a bunch of pissed up visitors over !
Love your Turn Wright hat, I have the same one I got back in 2013....made great use of it......Cheers, Paul
Great hat's . I enjoyed Keith's channel when he was on YT . Cheers .
No chatter on finishing cut, no chatter on radius cut, you got mad skills, Max! 🤣 Got a chuckle when you showed the big birdsnest, been there. Glad you found a way around it considering the amount of material coming off there 😁. Looking good mate!
Cheers! 👍😊👍
Thanks Chris .
Thx for taking the time.
Thanks .
Max, Tang looks great. Taking notes here.
All the best
Dan
Cheers Dan .
G'day Max, thanks so much for reminding me about Steady Eddy. I hadn't heard that name for many years. I went and watched some videos of him - soo funny!
No worries , he was a great comedy act 👍
Always look forward to your posts. I know its a good one when they seem too short.
Ditto! Enjoyed watching.
A good one is a short one ! Shop time is like '' Gold '' at the moment , as i have a lot on with the shop build & property maintenance this time of year ! Cheers .
Coming along nice Max
Thanks Gary .
You know it is going to be a serious project when Max puts the blue lab coat on. LOL!
Bloody oath !
Hi Max Re coolant on carbide - my experience as an ex Seco Tools guy make sure you have a constant flow over the tool during the cutting process. Reason being is the cutting edge will heat up, in heavy cutting conditions get to red hot. Now one can imagine that red hot area getting a shot of coolant its going to crack the carbide by what is called "thermal cracking". A bit like taking the old glass milk bottle from the fridge and using the last of the milk and then rinsing out under hot water, one will find the bottom of the bottle in the sink. Difficult to see with the naked eye but it will be there. What follows next is the insert will fail with the end coming off. Carbide will cut OK without coolant so unless you want to keep your job cool try running without it. The heat will go out in the chips. Seco Tools do a very good technical guide on all cutting data and trouble shooting and failures of carbide inserts. I hope this information helps you and other followers to your excellent film clips. Being an ex fitter and turner I admire the way you expalin things and use down to earth language when things don't go right. Cheers Ian - New Zealand
Hi Ian . I will nearly always run coolant as best as i can get it onto the insert without making a huge mess , just to keep the job cool . And to keep the chips from burning the fuk out of you ! Yes the thermal cracking can be an issue but i generally find running dry can be worse for insert life when you can not run the insert at their designed parameters .
Thanks for your input , always valuable from an ex tool dealer .
Cheers .
Thanks for the video Max.
Cheers Mate .
I have been watching machinist videos for two years. Saving my money to get my first lathe. I'm so close now I can taste that evening brewsky. You're channel had taught me so much good stuff, I want to say, thank you, when you're new shop is done I'll be looking for that Swan Valley T-shirt. Cheers Max. 👍
And hats as well ! Cheers .
Always great work and explained well
Cheers Greg .
Max,
It's always beer o'clock provided you don't stretch it out from breakfast till stumps.
Cheers Eric
I can't do breakfast to stumps any more , takes too long now to recover !!!
@@swanvalleymachineshop You can't say you've drank all day if you don't start in the morning. I agree though, those all day shifts in the beer parlour are a long hard pull now days.
In the small mining town that my wife grew up in all the houses were sided with asbestos. She said when they were young they would use broken chunks of the siding like chalk to draw on the sidewalk. I can just picture a typical scene from back then (1970's). Draw her name on the sidewalk in asbestos, jump into her dads truck, sans seatbelts, and drive around with the windows rolled up while her parents smoked like a couple of chimneys, with no guarantee that the guy behind the wheel was sober.
You remind me some souvenirs of my childhood :-)
Sounds familiar !!! Cheers Ken .
You start to worry when the driver is smoking a durry while eating a hamburger with a long neck between his knees ! OH hang on that was me😳
Hello Max,
Good works as always... nothing wrong with a drink at the end of the day my friend, hope you have a good weekend...
Take care.
Paul,,
Cheers Paul .
G'day Max, been looking forward to this, settling in with a nice Rum, 👍 thanks for sharing buddy
Cheers Ralfy .
very good video max
Thanks Mate .
Another fine video Max, great taper, nice finish on the radius. I think that tool is going to be a fine addition to arsenal once complete. Looks like we are in for some more rain again next week, I was sure you said we were done and could get some work completed outside 😀
Yes , every time i think the rain is over for the year it comes back !
Excellent job max, great video, keep'um coming.
Thanks Mate . Cheers .
Thanks max!
Cheers Mate .
Thanks for sharing 👍
Cheers .
I look forward to seeing how this comes out; I look forward to trying this for my little lathe some time.
Thanks .
Coming on nicely Max, I reached the same conclusion 2 seconds into your first cut on that billet, me thinks you would have no problem hardening that bit! Cheers, Jon
Thanks . Yes , that 4140 for the hub part is already tough enough ! Cheers Jon .
i have a question we study you doing this build . do you think the ues of a for jour chuck . will make the opatunity of cutting tapes on the late easer between centres preps you may tell us you opinions in this approach to taper cutting . ? thank you .
Hi Les . you will not be able to cut tapers between centres with a chuck in the tailstock .
They are for supporting long work for parallel
turning that can not normally be supported by a centre .
Happy Friday evening Max, hope you have a wonderful weekend....really enjoy this video, Cheers from Cape Canaveral Florida, USA, Paul
Thanks Paul . Wow ,you would have seen your fair share of rocket launches living there , how cool . A wonderful weekend working flat out on the new shop build ! Cheers. .
@@swanvalleymachineshop as Keith would say, Gitr Done!
Gday Max, going to be a handy tool when it’s done, I need to put a better chuck on mine, it’s that worn out, have a great weekend mate, Cheers
Hi Matty . You could always regrind the jaws .
@@swanvalleymachineshop yes but I think the scroll is worn badly, it’s the original 3 jaw that was on my Mars Hercules lathe, think it’s older then me…
@@MattysWorkshop Old is good ! I have to finish watching your last video , i was watching the start yesterday on my phone while i was working on the new shop . Looks like some small parts !
Max, since this hub material is 4140 or similar, what is your flange material? Will it be "weld compatible" with the 4140? Also, I've noticed that you tend to aim your coolant onto your tool instead of onto the part where the cut will take place -- do you find that this provides extra cooling and makes your inserts last longer or something like that?
The coolant is supposed to go onto the insert , not always possible though . I do find that generally the inserts last longer & can give a better finish with coolant . I will use low hydrogen 16TC rods & they will work fine , just a slight pre heat .
Hey Max,
Great videos, I love the way you are pushing that lathe to the limit!
I am thinking of getting the same size lathe as you have there and was wanting to know what size tooling are you using?
I am in Perth (SOR) also and was wondering where you get your tooling from? When I search online I only seem to find the cheap and cheerful stuff....
Regards
John
(found you from watching Dave M in the states who recommended Matty's Workshop who recommended you...full circle YT)
You should use 16mm tooling for that size lathe . I use 20 mm , but machine it down to 19mm to fit the tool blocks . I use that size so it will fit my other machines .
Teravin tooling is where i get a lot of stuff from , not cheap though ! They sell a lot of very high quality Korean made stuff .
Other high end brands i search on line & have collected over the years .
There were a few modifications to the apron drive that i did to that lathe to be able to push it like i do with out doing any damage , they are in the lathe modification series from some time ago .
Cheers .
I find that the home made Morse tapers have a better fit than the commercial ones.
I have some that you almost have to hammer in to make them hold.
It's probably because home made ones are softer & after a few uses they seem to bed in a bit to the other taper .
G'day from Tassie, Max, great timing for the vid, right on beer o'clock, re hardening, if you got some hardness from the oil quench?, why not try another scrap in a salty water mix? (with a little soap powder), the water is a fast quench, and may just get you over the line, or shatter like so many of my first blades;).
Steady Eddie was a crack up on Hey Hey.
Have a good one,
Scott.
I might just harden the tang a tad with the Case hardening compound . Cheers .
Hello Max, I gotta ask, what is an Australian thunder box with an asbestos roof used for? As usual, very enjoyable vis
Ha haaa, lol, I'm no Aussie, but I reckon the same noun as given to the surface finish beginning with s. Cheers, Jon
Outdoor Dunny !
Got to be built out of brick to keep the thunder in where it belongs. The asbestos is a sort of pressure relief valve. Jeff
@@jefftheaussie2225 That's it !
I have watched with great interest the making of this tail stock chuck. When you turned the Morris taper 4 you set the compound to move 208 thou over 4 inches. How did you arrive at the 4 inches and what would be a couple of examples for other Morris tapers . Your Canadian friend Keith. ( out on the prairies in Saskatchewan)
I get all of the specs for the tapers from the Machinerys Handbook , and use trig to calculate the compound slide angle . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop I’m sorry to bother you but I have no idea where to start or what I’m looking up in the machinery handbook. Could you possibly do a video and walk us through step by step on the procedure you use.
Keith
Following Max, this is a interesting project mainly because when it's done you'll wonder why you waited so long to do it, a live chuck tailstock makes total sense in so many ways.
By the way Max, I have been meaning to ask you what make and size your lathe is.
I have been meaning to build one for a long time , just never got around to it ! The lathe in the video is a Hare & Forbes AL960B . 300mm swing over the bed , about 900mm between centres .
Always interesting content, Max. You really worked magic with that radius tool. I was watching with anticipation and it ended up so smooth. I also think its funny that you shoot your intros at the time of day where you might consider an outro. It that even a word? Great stuff.
Hi Rob . Yes i nearly always forget about the intro's ! I think it's because i don't always do them on a multi part project . Cheers .
I've been struggling with my little lathe on 4140 with cnmg, getting a better result with ccmt, but still just tight spirals, not chips. I might see if I can get some tnmg tooling to fit it and give that a go. Looks like I might have to grind down a 16mm tool to fit though, not seeing any 12mm tooling so far.
Sounds like you need the 12mm , with the tiny inserts . Those tiny inserts make a huge difference .
Great work as always Max. It's coming along nicely and seems like a fairly straightforward project. Not sure I would ever need a tail mounted chuck. I am curious what you are going to use it on. As far a Steady Eddie, I had that nickname as well as others as a kid. I was not aware of the Aussie comic, will have to check that out. Thanks for the kind words. All the best! Oh and I prefer whiskey when operating my power tools😁
Thanks Eddie . Google Steady Eddie , he is a good laugh ! Mainly for helping to hold longer parts that you can not support with a centre . Cheers .
It's always 5 o'clock somewhere in the world.. that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it
Same here , also 5am after night shift as well !!!
Hey Max enjoying your videos, i do a bit of machining also and im picking up some good tips.
You look very familiar to me ,do you work for Georgiou in Perth as a fitter?
Yes .
Thought so i used to work with Georgiou south of the river with Charlie and Nigel@@swanvalleymachineshop
@@Darkrif1957 . I remember now . I think you were on the 14M doing some roads before you left to go traveling ?
@@swanvalleymachineshop thats right mate that was out at wattleup
First 😂 nice one Max. Hope you’re well buddy. Cheers 🍻 Aaron
PS: I remember Steady Eddie. Hilarious 😆
Thanks Aaron . Cheers .
Lookin good.
You won't need that tang particularly hard for the tailstock, not like you will e drifting it loose 5 times a day or anything..
Avagoodweekend!
I still might dip the end in the cherry & just bring the tip up a bit . Cheers .
Geez Max you ain't half good at chucking up on the 4 jaw. enjoying the vids all the best from Bananaland
Thanks , once you have done it a few thousand times !!! Cheers .
"Shithouse finish" technical engineering term I thought they oblynused in the North of Yorkshire UK. Haha
We use it down under as well !!!