South African's Reaction: 'African Americans Forced Leave Africa'

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @tonifergie1423
    @tonifergie1423 10 месяцев назад +28

    I am Jamaican and I visited SA twice. Last year Joburg and couple of years before I visited Cape Town. Planning to visit Limpopo later this year.. I love SA.. 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +5

      If there's another African Diaspora I'd love to meet is Jamaicans. I've always had a soft spot for you guys and very fascinated by your culture which is not so far apart from African cultures.

    • @tonifergie1423
      @tonifergie1423 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@ClantisDumakude awwww.. Don’t you make me start crying. When I visited Cape Town the guy looked at my American passport and when he saw place of Birth, he handed it back to me and told me welcome home my sistah.. He had no idea what he did, because of those very words I visited Joburg last year with 6 other family members, I love SA..

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +3

      @@tonifergie1423 ❤️❤️❤️🤗🤗🤗 I don't know the brother but I say THANK YOU to him for making you feel at home and welcomed home.

    • @666oracle
      @666oracle 10 месяцев назад +1

      Do Durban next.

  • @cynthiar6917
    @cynthiar6917 10 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you Clantis, you are the Best. You are so right, let's treat each other with total Love and Respect no matter where we are from. We are Family ❤💯

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      Nothing breaks the bond of family when we love each other.

  • @trufftim
    @trufftim 10 месяцев назад +11

    Love your content, my name is Tim and I'm from the u.s. living in the state of Georgia. I to am planning g on coming to SA, I spent a year on the continent while I was in the military in Somalia, but SA is my next move.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +2

      Hello Tim. We look forward to having you come to SA. We promise you nothing but love and fun and learning while you at it.

    • @666oracle
      @666oracle 10 месяцев назад

      Be warned. If nice you see South Africa, you cannot unsee it. It will make you relocate.

  • @umarabdulkarim8811
    @umarabdulkarim8811 10 месяцев назад +5

    I hear you. And I also heard about that tanzania experience. Thanks for setting the record straight. We love you.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      ❤️❤️❤️

    • @africaine4889
      @africaine4889 10 месяцев назад +1

      People like to hear negativity. You have several AA leaving in Tanzania for 3 years and more and have youtube channels where they talk about their positive experience in Tanzania but nobody puts that ahead. I now see different little african youtubers with little followers now making videos of only the AA with negative experience of certain aftican countries just to attract AA views and followers. And all of them will put the same dated videos.

  • @sinegugunyathi1312
    @sinegugunyathi1312 10 месяцев назад +9

    As a South African love your content it is loud and clear, hope our brothers and sisters won't feel like we are attacking them when we correct them tht africa is a continent not a country because we love it when you come and visit our country🙌🙏❤️

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      🙏🏾❤️🤗 Thank you so much🙏🏾

  • @gladyspapiso1115
    @gladyspapiso1115 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks my brother for this powerful video. I'm proud to be fellow South African❤❤❤❤

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you fellow South African❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @errolmotau927
    @errolmotau927 10 месяцев назад +1

    First time viewer and beautiful channel bro, you doing well to sell South Africa and I love it.

  • @ww9738-c5u
    @ww9738-c5u 10 месяцев назад +7

    Hello. Thank you for this content. Yes. 54 different countries on the continent. We have much to learn about each other.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      And we have the best time together while we learn about each other.

  • @stephenjones1558
    @stephenjones1558 10 месяцев назад +1

    First time listening. i subscribed because your discourse is challenging.
    I Love it.. I live in the USA but was born in Grenada (Caribbean)... Keep on doing what you do.

  • @suitelife1781
    @suitelife1781 10 месяцев назад +7

    I agree Clantis. It's a two way street. Can't wait to come back and would love to meet other Diapora's from all over the world. Valerie D

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      Funny, when I was talking about the market, you and your mom came to mind how we had so much fun that day in Rosebank🤗❤

  • @theshoemakinglady
    @theshoemakinglady 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Clantis! I don't know how I got unsubscribed but I subscribed again.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much🤗❤️🙏🏾

  • @robertpolite1223
    @robertpolite1223 10 месяцев назад +8

    I can’t wait to move to South Africa….got to leave America…

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      How is it going so far, the preps and all? We can't wait to have you living amongst us.

    • @gibson2675
      @gibson2675 10 месяцев назад

      Be carefull of their crime rate. It's scary

    • @pmambongwe8640
      @pmambongwe8640 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@gibson2675They know all about the foreigners that come here and add to the crime but they still wanna be here. No terrorism etc

    • @ayobampilo5762
      @ayobampilo5762 10 месяцев назад

      Have you experienced crime in SA@@gibson2675

    • @tutonguni529
      @tutonguni529 Месяц назад

      Just come you'll be fine here 😊

  • @iamjoemomma2
    @iamjoemomma2 10 месяцев назад +1

    You are vibing with us, so we vibe with you! Sadly racism is so insidious and pervasive that it even infected people who look like us. So many African YT spreading negative info about AA who are going back to the continent and exploiting them for likes and views.
    Most AA who are returning will tell you they want to connect with the people and the culture, and so many have started successful businesses all a cross the continent! Unfortunately most African YT don't talk about that, they prefer to do "us vs them" and participate in the age old pastime of hating on black Americans, I guess it's the fashionable thing to do 🤷🏾‍♂️
    Please keep doing what you're doing! Your channel deserves to blow up as you are spreading love, unity, and sharing the truth! God bless you brother!

  • @TheHuny85
    @TheHuny85 10 месяцев назад +6

    I have an American accent i find that it is other foreigners who are here in SA who take advantage of that .What he didnt know was that im very much South African and i so happen to have grown up in America .He was a Pakistani guy .South Africans dont hike prices based off the accent unlike the others

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +2

      I didn't want to say that factor in the video as the truth begins to reveal itself. Your last comment had me taking action and I was told that baggage stuff will be reminded in a memo that they're not allowed to ask for money for doing their job.

    • @weziweandrade6261
      @weziweandrade6261 10 месяцев назад +2

      @The Huny85 What you’re saying is true I watched one of the you tubers from Kenya by the name Claude Joseph, when he came to SA (Johannesburg cbd) all the people that he managed to talk with were not SAs but I had the other guy when he asked him where is he from the guy said he’s from here he never said he’s from the other country but staying in SA.

  • @sandrasgotvoice
    @sandrasgotvoice 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love your love for the diaspora and your love for your country. You are a great representative and ambassador! Thank you for the clarification; folks need to know this!!

  • @tonifergie1423
    @tonifergie1423 10 месяцев назад +6

    I wanted to buy land outside the city but I was told they are tribal lands and I have to be apart of a tribe to be accepted. But I love SA. Built some great relationships that will last a lifetime.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +2

      Where was that? We do have tribal lands and indeed, to get land, you'll have to pay homage to the Chief/King of that land if you wish you live amongst their people. I don't think it's a hindrance as most chiefs and royals of that land would welcome you with wide open hearts and arms and happy that you fell in love with them.

    • @NEMESIS_10
      @NEMESIS_10 10 месяцев назад +2

      You don't necessarily have to be part of the tribe, if you can speak or at least understand their language and cultural practices you should be good.
      Understanding the cultural practices is particularly important. For example: if someone in the neighborhood has a ceremony it is important you attend. Or at least someone in your family attends to represent your household. That way when you have a an event/ceremony they will make sure they attend as well.
      Also these ceremonies tend to attract large amounts of people, so when attending those from the neighborhood often bring gifts in the form of groceries. When you attend you bring a gift, when they attend they bring you gifts as well.
      But these practices vary depending on where you are. These are the small details you need to know when residing in rural areas.

    • @tonifergie1423
      @tonifergie1423 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@NEMESIS_10 I would love that. Even though I live in the US I was raised in a small village in Jamaica and it was a actual community. Everyone knew each other and we all celebrated together. I never knew such practices still exist so that is good to know. Thank you.

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 10 месяцев назад

      The chiefs that love money so much??? that person gave you a wrong info, they will love to get that dollar trust me on that. I bought a stand last year at the rural area for R50k last year, i want to use it for bussiness. No chief will turn down the dollar

  • @marlathetraveler
    @marlathetraveler 10 месяцев назад +1

    I loved South Africa and the Black people I met there. I want to sell my house here and move there. But I think I want to go for like 4 months and see what it is like to be there for more than 3 weeks.

  • @islandsun8235
    @islandsun8235 10 месяцев назад +3

    I love South Africa. My husband is Zulu. He loves my Jamaican culture, and I love SA's culture. He said I am more in love with Amapiano than I am with him. 😅 I go wild for my Amapiano. I enjoy living in Durban.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      🤣🤣🤣I can imagine when a new Amapiano song comes on how you react😂 I love your story and for loving us🙏🏾❤️ We love you too very much❤️❤️❤️

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      PS: I'm from Durban.

  • @weziweandrade6261
    @weziweandrade6261 10 месяцев назад +1

    Tip is not a must in South Africa you tip if you want, that thing needs to be addressed. Those people who always want tips for the service they offered are not real South Africans.

  • @eddiethorne6461
    @eddiethorne6461 10 месяцев назад +2

    Not to change the topic or the subject of this video.But i saw before the pandemic a video from South Africa where an Afrikaner man took a sword and beheaded an African tribal in front of the man`s young son.He had worked on the Afrikaners farm.The Afrikaner fled from the farm land and Julius Malema and the EFF did a protest march on the land.I don`t know if the Afrikaner man came back to live on the farm or if he went to jail.I don`t know if you do podcasts on the land issue or not.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, I remember that story. I'll check whatever happened. There's a current one, I think it happened yesterday or so where a white farmer set dogs on two of his workers. Today they were in court, applying for bail. Some of them never learn, despite the laws we have against such acts of racism.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121 ,that is the same excuse that is use here in the USA.That all of the criminal are black and that is why the police had to kill the and by the way the land issue was settle when the winner to all years ago.

    • @eddiethorne6461
      @eddiethorne6461 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@rorirory121Sometimes those body cameras are turn off by the police.The United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division has been called to investigate instead a head of the FBI. It took 5 police to handle bid bad George Floyd in Minnesota and it took 4 police to handle Eric Garner in New York City.They had Body Cameras.

    • @lady-jn3mf
      @lady-jn3mf 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@rorirory121watching the documentary and living that event is too different things. Let's not speak from a point of ignorance and privilege, realities of people of color should not be gaslighted like that, some of us know how this people are, if you have a good relationship with them and can tolerate their other side please with due respect this is for you, some people don't live like that. This folks just don't have peace.

    • @ItsN33m03
      @ItsN33m03 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121 do you even understand that rhetoric as such is why oppressors have been getting away with the k1ll1ng and g3n0cide and ethnic cleansing of people of color for centuries? You were taught in school in churches in your communities that the black man is the bad man the enemy and is to be feared. That his life means less so it's OK to take it. If by your logic bad men are to be k1ll3d and thrown to the lions den because it'd be deemed a favor to society for having removed the evil, then wouldn't it be fair to say white men in power should suffer the same fate? It's not our own people who colonized and segregated us. We can go back and forth if you want to but the facts are the facts and if you want to stand in truth, do so in it in it's entirety not just in the part that aids to justify your cause.

  • @africarain8294
    @africarain8294 10 месяцев назад +1

    I will visit south Africa 🇿🇦 this year

  • @VinnySthole
    @VinnySthole 8 месяцев назад

    My brother I stand with you.
    As South Africans, it's time to go back to our Ubuntu.
    Let us love our brothers and sisters.
    Visiting Uganda Kampala I was shown hospitality in high order.
    We are ONE.
    Let's love others, we are THEM, they are US.

  • @Phila-zd3ps
    @Phila-zd3ps 10 месяцев назад +4

    So true bhuti clantis it's didn't sit well to me xham🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽 cause we truly loves our brothers and sisters from the USA ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      And other African diaspora, we love then just alike❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Lyndakhumalo
    @Lyndakhumalo 10 месяцев назад +3

    Facts, we love our US brothers and sisters

  • @tshepishochuene1280
    @tshepishochuene1280 10 месяцев назад +2

    We're all African, but we're not the same. Thanks for clearing that up Clantis.
    Also, apart from possibly losing our visa free status in more countries, there's something that should be pointed out.
    S.A is an amalgamation of homelands, therefore South Africans will always have qualms with the current status of immigration, because apart from our shared identity as Africans, like all human beings, Language and culture separate us all, and with the entire continent and everyone else in between flooding here illegally, there'll be nothing left for our children to claim. They'll have no place in society and our cultures will be all but a distant memory, while the invaders' will still have their homelands, languages and cultures intact.
    Understanding and appreciating these similarities and differences is crucial. Illegal immigration needs to be urgently dealt with.
    Offcourse immigration is also crucial for the advancement or development of a nation or country, but The key words here are "Controlled immigration".

  • @minniekeita4291
    @minniekeita4291 10 месяцев назад

    I have to meet you when I get there.

  • @NDavis-lp8hf
    @NDavis-lp8hf 10 месяцев назад

    Waasup Brotha,
    The videos you spoke about use the word, Africa, as 'Click Bait'. Even you clicked on it to learn the details. She's not ignorant, she's just a savy marketer. CooL? Peace.

  • @MoiraEstelleAntonie
    @MoiraEstelleAntonie 10 месяцев назад +1

    So sad 😢 to become aware of the distorted history in our school books. More evidence that the establishment of the colonial powers were actually not the heroes as projected. As Julius Malema always mentions in his speeches: "We as black African people are the most hated by others for no reason. Let us not also hate one another. Show love 💕 to your African brothers and sisters" That is part of self-love. Why do we also have to disown ourselves?

  • @carmentoffee
    @carmentoffee 10 месяцев назад

    Good Day. I would have to agree with you in regards to being many similarities between African Americans and South Africans. I am an AA that history in America started with the sl@ve trade and my family kept some of our knowledge of who we were and we are in fact Zulus taken from the continent. So all of us being from west Africa is not true, we come from all over Africa. I am looking forward to my transition back home to learn more in person about my culture.

  • @DeborahBellamy-uj5zr
    @DeborahBellamy-uj5zr 10 месяцев назад +4

    Hey my brother!I was watching another podcast that talked about illegal white immigrants in Africa, it has been said to be living better than the countrymen.

    • @HarwardMbonxa
      @HarwardMbonxa 10 месяцев назад +1

      2 million of them to be precise,more white settlers in our country.

    • @AustineAK
      @AustineAK 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@HarwardMbonxa tall love telling a lie so much so that tap make that lie a gospel truth
      The lady who spoke of 2million white illegal immigrants is a Zimbabwean, because SA stopped giving zbabweans permits.
      She's not working in statistics, census or immigration, she pulled the number from where the sun never shines..

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +3

      Yep, the same South Africa that Western media say it's "DANGEROUS" yet the same people who mislead the world are living lavish lifestyles here.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      Regardless of the stats, are disputing that South Africa does have illegal Europeans or you're disputing the number of them? Please clarify that for me. Hayi kabi.

    • @HarwardMbonxa
      @HarwardMbonxa 10 месяцев назад

      @@ClantisDumakude Not me my brother,I do not dispute that we have more than 2 million illigal europens in S.A and these illigal europeans do not even pay taxes and they should be dealt with accordingly by any means necessary.

  • @gibson2675
    @gibson2675 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can america make it easy with visas so we can also go to america

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      With our HA like that? I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.

  • @MsOlSchool
    @MsOlSchool 10 месяцев назад +2

    Point well taken, people seem to generalize their experiences as a whole, instead of speaking on their own particular negative, experience as a whole, even though it was just that experience in one area. I really hate that mindset, they mislead others by giving their unfair opinions. This is how I felt, when I would read in the comments, over the years from different Africans, from different countries, regurgitating things they heard about African Americans, that we were all lazy, and on welfare, looking for handouts?? A fracture began between Africans and African Americans because we knew this was the lies white people started, that was believed by other nations, without any proof or personal experiences to know for sure.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      The way African Americans and South Africans are so similar, we as South Africans have been told that we are lazy and living on handouts from the whites in South Africa, simply because the companies operating in South Africa wouldn't employ South Africans because we are protected by the Labor Relations Act against exploitation. We (South Africans) never once believed that the people who fought tooth and nail against segregation (Jim Craw) and the fight you continue to fight will never be understood by people who flee their own countries instead of dying for it until they're fixed perpetuate such words on African Americans. The fact that as Africans have the dream to go to America is as a result of the people they call "lazy". How twisted!

  • @japhya0378
    @japhya0378 10 месяцев назад +4

    Honestly, the only similarities I see between black Americans and South Africans is that we both had to deal with da wyiate man on a day to day basis. As far as population black Americans have never been more than 15% of the US, while blacks in SA have always been 85% and more. With black Americans having such a fighting attitude, I honestly doubt that black Americans would have allowed 10-15% of the people to oppress them if they were 85% of the US. just saying.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +2

      Appreciate your opinion.

    • @japhya0378
      @japhya0378 10 месяцев назад

      @@ClantisDumakude I appreciate you...

    • @dinaledi4085
      @dinaledi4085 10 месяцев назад +1

      Then how were they removed from the continent ? Were they not a majority when they were stolen ?

    • @dinaledi4085
      @dinaledi4085 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@rorirory121 And they probably couldn't fight because the captors had guns , a weapon that Africans did not have. So its really unfair to victim blame whether you are talking about Trans Atlantic slavery or the enslavement of Africans in the continent through colonization. The Zulu nation did do their best to fight . We know that and they won some major battles even though they had no guns or canons . This is why colonizers decided to bring in slaves for Asia instead of trying to enslave the Zulu nation. But I mean realistically and practically the Zulu nation were not going to be able to save the whole Southern region . The victim blaming and divisive talk amongst blacks just needs to stop.

    • @dinaledi4085
      @dinaledi4085 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121 Okay you just enjoy being controversial so I'll let you be.

  • @marlathetraveler
    @marlathetraveler 10 месяцев назад +1

    The homeless problem here in California is horrible.

  • @sandracottom-dg6ob
    @sandracottom-dg6ob 10 месяцев назад +3

    YES THEY ARE

  • @josephrobinson1009
    @josephrobinson1009 10 месяцев назад +2

    As an so-called African-American who's been living in Rwanda for almost 2 1/2 years, I understand your point. We need to stop referring to Africa like it's a single country. My family will be visiting SA in the future! www.youtube.com/@ditchinbabylon6008

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      I hope you are enjoying Rwanda. Your family will be warmly welcomed when they come over🙏🏾❤️🤗
      Let me check your channel.

    • @josephrobinson1009
      @josephrobinson1009 10 месяцев назад

      Thank you kind sir!@@ClantisDumakude

  • @Phila-zd3ps
    @Phila-zd3ps 10 месяцев назад +4

    And please my brothers and sisters you don't have to tip everyone out there and it's not the must you do it out of love but if you don't please don't tip anyone cause I'm sure those people who demand tips i doubt they south Africans 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽❤❤

  • @Howtomakegamecards
    @Howtomakegamecards 10 месяцев назад +1

    I visited SA in the 90s when Mandela was first elected president. It's an incredibly beautiful place, and for the most part, the native black people were interested in me and quite friendly. The land and the people made me feel like I could stay there forever, but I could never live in SA. I could never live in a society with the skills and resources that I have knowing what kind of life I could build for myself in a land of tremendous suffering. Black people barefooted walking along the highway where whites and others zip past them as useless reuse. But their condition is anything but irrelevant. If visitors from America can't contribute to end the embarrassing suffering haunting those poor black people of that land, then they are just tourists. For me, life is not a vacation. I don't want comfort at the expense of other people's dignity. So when u come from a place like America seeking to live the life that u left behind in SA, that's not progress and it's surely not revolution. I think I'll stay put in America and fight as hard as I can in the belly of the beast, and hopefully the benefits will accrue to all people in search of the same peace and prosperity that our world yearns for. I wrote a book about my trip to SA but I have yet to publish it, when I do, I'll have an excuse to return to SA to share the photos in my book of a SA that no longer exists.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      I agree.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      Please do what makes sense to you and makes you happy. You're always welcome to South Africa, anytime. Please do consider publishing that book.

    • @Howtomakegamecards
      @Howtomakegamecards 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121diddy, u can’t be that stupid. If u r take ur stupidity elsewhere. Who walks barefoot enmass on this planet where the world population is committed to stepping in style with proper orthopedic support? Do u or anyone u know go about your day barefoot? No, because u have what those black SAs don’t: Jordans, or some other stylish comfortable shoe to accommodate you.

    • @Howtomakegamecards
      @Howtomakegamecards 10 месяцев назад

      no one said anything about saving anyone. But one thing is for sure, I would never go to SA to plunder the nation and rob its people. I would never spread disease, destruction and genocide, the way European conquistadors have to every corner of this earth. If I went to SA, I wouldn’t go there to save black people because that’s not my job. But making life difficult for white settlers may be an attractive alternative.

    • @pmambongwe8640
      @pmambongwe8640 10 месяцев назад +1

      Your book will be outdated. Things aren't exactly the same anymore

  • @BonganiMagadu
    @BonganiMagadu 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you. Those videos exasperate me. I'm constantly having to ask where it happened
    They generalise so much it's so annoying
    Or another one is the supposed beef between black Americans and Africans. Where and over what
    Apart from a certain country in West Africa I don't know anyone in my circle who has beef with another group of blacks😂😅

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      That is why we are fixing on both sides.

  • @marlathetraveler
    @marlathetraveler 10 месяцев назад

    This lady was so helpful with us at the airport. She was so nice. I wanted to tip her, I went to change money and she was gone. This was in S.A. Biggest problem I had was in the Airport with some White man who grabbed my cart and told me I was not special. He was waiting for his luggage and so was I. I am sure he was racist. But the Black men in our travel group checked him.

  • @TheAdeJohn
    @TheAdeJohn 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yes, there are other diasporans besides African Americans relocating to South Africa from the US. I know a couple of them. Because I was born in Africa, I don't see myself as a diasporan. I left Africa 33 years ago (1991) and have been living in New York since then. I'm married to an African American who has never visited Africa, including my 21-year-old son, who doesn't want to visit Africa either, despite my frequent trips to South Africa, where I spend three months every year. I've tried everything to persuade him and my wife to come, but they have no interest, even though we own four houses in South Africa. They have never shown interest in seeing the houses. I bought an apartment in Sandton last year in my son's name, thinking he would be excited to come and see it, but it made no difference to him. He's not interested in coming to Africa. I'll be in South Africa from April to July. It's easier for those of us born in Africa to reintegrate back into Africa. That's why you don't come across some of us who are trying to relocate back to Africa. All my friends in South Africa are South Africans, although most are white and Indian colleagues due to my profession. It's easy for me to navigate things in South Africa, even though I'm not a South African.
    Similarly, other diasporans from the West Indies and the Caribbean do relocate to Africa, but they seem to know how to integrate into Africa better than African Americans. That's why more of African Americans are receptive to your gestures. African Americans are accustomed to a comfortable life in America and need help integrating into Africa. Even though I plan to relocate to South Africa in a year or two, I don't want my son to live in Africa. I'm not downplaying Africa, but it's hard to imagine how someone would leave America to go and live in Africa. Forget about the noises on social media, life, stability, peace, and opportunities in America cannot be compared to any other country in the world. Mind you, I've lived in about 5 countries in my lifetime. So, I know what I'm saying. Only life in South Africa is comparable to the life in the western world. So, other than South Africa, life in Africa is going to be hard for any African American. My wife can't survive living in Africa either, which is why I respect African Americans making the bold move to relocate to Africa. Sometimes, it seems they are on drugs to consider living in Africa. I don't understand why an American would leave America to live in Africa with all the challenges there. The thoughts, anxieties, and fear of the unknown about relocating is what is making a lot of them to contact you. Of course, without being guided, many of them won't succeed relocating to Africa, because the way of thinking they are used to America won't work in Africa. Being that some of them are stuck in their way of thinking would even make it difficult for them to succeed in relocating.
    Anyway, I plan to retire next year and relocate to South Africa; my wife only agrees to visit for a month after my retirement but won't relocate with me. So, basically, I'll be spending six months in South Africa and six months in America during my retirement. In conclusion, there are many variations of diasporans out there that you're not familiar with. Other diasporans from the Caribbean and West Indies could integrate into Africa more easily than African Americans, who will definitely find it difficult to navigate the complexities of life in Africa.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      Wow! Thank you for sharing your story. Take heart, your son is still young and may not understand things for now. Your wife too, once she lands here, things may change in her. Things do have their time.
      You're absolutely right, I have not yet met other African diasporans and I would love to meet them. I do believe that they are also visiting and relocating here, it's just that I haven't seen or heard of them.
      Besides, I'm sure we will meet soon.
      I love your story of owning properties here, coming here and stay for months and even planning to retire here. I love that. You're my brother!

    • @pmambongwe8640
      @pmambongwe8640 10 месяцев назад +1

      Don't you think it's important to expose your family to your roots rather than SA? anyway with the influx I'm afraid SA is turning to a slum. Our cities are a mess due to this, esp from drug dealers who hijack our buildings and have no idea how to look after property.

    • @TheAdeJohn
      @TheAdeJohn 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@pmambongwe8640As you'll read from the post, I've tried everything possible to bring them down to Africa without success. I even bought an apartment in Fourways in his name last year, and he's still not interested in coming. I asked him last year that if I die, how would he be able to recover the properties in South Africa. He said he will leave it for the government to take it. That's why I went to Tokin Clasey Law Firm in Rosebank last year to prepare some legal documents to give them power of attorney to sell the properties and send him the money in case I die in South Africa. He has a copy of the document now. The Law Firm handled the conveyancing of all my properties and they have all the documents to facilitate everything needed in case I die. I've been working with them for 8 years now. My son is the only child I have, and he and his mother still live with me till today. Of course, that's one of the disadvantages of marrying an American. Since he's comfortable here, he sees no reason to go to Africa. He only travels to Switzerland or Japan. Africa is not his thing.
      As far as taking him to my root is concerned, I cannot expose them to my roots. My son and wife won't come back to Africa if my country (Nigeria) is the first place I take them to. Besides, I've not been to Nigeria in 15 years, and I don't have any friends there. I haven't talked to my siblings (6 of them) in 12 years: I don't even know whether they are dead or alive. American kids and wives are different from African kids and wives. Just because you're the father and husband doesn't mean you can tell anybody where to go or what to do. You can't force anybody here or else you'll get in trouble. He was never interested in Africa from childhood based on what he hears about Africa and what they teach them in school.
      I don't know if you have lived in any other African countries, you'll understand that South Africa is still the best country in Africa and far better than many countries in the Western world, despite the drug dealers and hijacker problems you're talking about. Yes, you have immigrant problems but most of the trouble makers in South Africa are Zimbabweans and Nigerians. Your government is trying to flush the nuisance people out, and they will eventually succeed as time goes on. They are changing a lot of policy that gave room for the trouble makers. You citizens should just help the government rather than sabotaging their efforts.
      Unfortunately, somebody like me or people coming from America are not going to live in the neighborhoods, townships, and areas of the city (e.g., Soweto, Diepsloot, Ebony Park, Ivory Park, Kaalfontein, Hebron, Berea, Yeoville, Jeppetown, Braamfontein, Maboneng, etc.) where those problems you mentioned are common. My properties are in Rosebank, Waterfall, Fourways, and Bryanston. I'm less likely to encounter serious issues like that in these areas.

    • @lady-jn3mf
      @lady-jn3mf 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@pmambongwe8640 I believe everyone is entitled to invest wherever they feel comfortable to,with 4 properties to invest on is a win for SA unlike he hijacked the building. This types of comments really are not necessary. Sometimes think of the economics than with your heart. other races are here buying spaces left right centre and you don't talk about them yet you make noise if it is your own people. Kore you love colonizers more than your own, noo cc,change your mindset. Should the other race outnumber us here, we are what we call history repeating itself. They are built to cause chaos and peace is just something foreign to them. Some of us have heard it with them, if you love them that much, go and stay with them in their respective countries and see if they as welcoming to their countries as we are. Sharp nhe.

  • @blessedAfrikan217
    @blessedAfrikan217 10 месяцев назад

    I came to the understanding that the African diaspora has been treated as enemies and different on the continent. It's amazing how a people that their ancestors came from that continent not volunteerly on their on their own, but by force, is seen as others. In order for them to get back to the continent, they will need a visa that dictates to them how long they can stay. It's like stabbing the ancestors in their backs. The hate foebeach other in this group is ridiculous.

  • @ernestmanjati6411
    @ernestmanjati6411 28 дней назад

    I want to comment on the issue whereby South Africa is accused of forcing out black Americans out of South Africa and that is unfounded and untrue .South Africans love American brothers and sisters , there is nowhere that we can treat them badly as we are a welcoming Nation and South Africans have a long outstanding history of friendship and mutual respect .

  • @johncurry-jf6jc
    @johncurry-jf6jc 10 месяцев назад +4

    Black Americans bring a 2 trillion us spending power, we are accepted everywhere because of this, we don’t like SA being the most unequal country in the world and this must change and we as Black Americans want to assist in making this happen, this is upsetting to Black Americans when we visit SA, this can not and will not continue , and yes my brother America is a violent place, much❤from the USA, we will win this struggle together

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      You and me both think alike because I have seen it, the saving grace for both of us is South Africa and definitely, it's us who can work together to fix a lot of things. I believe that. Much❤️❤️❤️ to you too brother.

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 10 месяцев назад +1

      If you believe all that then you will believe anything, there is a reason why of all Africans running to live in USA, you hardly see us coming there in large numbers

  • @gregorywillis2770
    @gregorywillis2770 10 месяцев назад +2

    😎👍🏾🇺🇸

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      Black🇺🇸 ❤ Black 🇿🇦

    • @user.ogungunsuns
      @user.ogungunsuns 9 месяцев назад +1

      @Gregory Albert Spencer (when you harm other peoples children and wives sexually - you ARE in fact DIRECTLY harming your OWN👀👎🏼predators)

  • @BonsuBigWhale
    @BonsuBigWhale 10 месяцев назад +2

    If South Afrika elects Malema, he should put his money where his mouth is and pledge to duplicate Ghana’s Right of Abode and pathway to citizenship policies in South Afrika as well.
    He can make the call for other Afrikan countries, Naija, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia to also do so, but he would have the power to make it happen in his own country.
    The Diaspora will benefit from the additional option.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      I think it should be done any South African leadership that takes power and set up measures to make it easy for diaspora to take up whatever immigrational status they so wish for the benefit of all involved.

    • @dinaledi4085
      @dinaledi4085 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121 Are you black ?

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 10 месяцев назад +1

      The idiot will never be elected in this country

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dinaledi4085 He is not black, you know them

    • @BonsuBigWhale
      @BonsuBigWhale 10 месяцев назад

      @@rorirory121 Your issue is the prospect of Malema putting his money where his mouth is and calling on millions to rather come to South Afrika to share the opportunity and resources as fellow countrymen.
      Ghana extended its welcome.
      Malema’s speech was also his version of a welcome.
      If he gets elected President you should have no issue with South Afrika taking in its own influx of Diasporans.
      As a more developed nation, its open door will also see it as a coveted landing spot for the very diasporans Malema is seeking to gain clout and claps from with his speech.
      No country on earth ,would extend an open repatriation call to a population that would eclipse it’s own.
      Just like his calls for open borders, ceding pf republics, ceding pf sovereignty across the continent includes South Afrika, It should be understood that if Malema is calling folks “home”, he also means to his country, South Afrika. It is not as if his country does not have the resources to do so. It already accommodates millions of Europeans and Asians. It could benefit from the additional influx to its already multicultural society.
      South Afrika can also use the opportunity to display Malema’s vision, per his speech.
      And he can use his own influence, to the extent that it exists, to call upon his regional neighbors ours and the other develops Afrikan economies in East Afrika to follow his lead and example
      Or you have a problem with folks heading anywhere but Ghana and West Afrika?
      As a matter of correction, the majority of the Afrikans taken west are from the lands across Congo and Angola. Congo is EAC. Angola is SADC. The regional integration and merger of nations in the respective regional blocs would be creating a new population of citizens. While West Afrika, with the dissolution of ECOWAS, may not present as the best of stable options.
      The Diaspora will appreciate the additional options..

  • @davidjohnson3143
    @davidjohnson3143 10 месяцев назад

    We both are dealing with tethers...

    • @africaine4889
      @africaine4889 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nah SA don't call people tethers. You guys can keep that.Ubuntu is practice in SA. As long as you are in SA legally it is fine. You also call black south africans tethers over there.Don't be like the colinizers and try to divide us africans

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      I agree.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад

      I get your anger. However, I feel like it won't help either of us to call them tethers. Let's focus on us and how do we come together and work together to improve our lives with all the resources we have here.

    • @pmambongwe8640
      @pmambongwe8640 10 месяцев назад

      Funny thing is you don't distinguish. You call SAns that shit too when you fight your wars with West Africans and even mention out country and call us names based on having white people here

    • @davidjohnson3143
      @davidjohnson3143 10 месяцев назад

      @@ClantisDumakude the tethers will take the resources you forefathers fought for to have them leave back to their countries when the resources are dried up. You know this is not good for the natives.

  • @kuyahkudey3217
    @kuyahkudey3217 10 месяцев назад

    Most African diasporans in Europe who are not there directly from the continent are from the Caribbean.

  • @shontelllacour138
    @shontelllacour138 10 месяцев назад

    #PanAfricanism
    #DividedWeFall
    #Memorandum46 ✊🏾🇺🇸♥️

  • @Ocsshepherd
    @Ocsshepherd 10 месяцев назад

    Apply for visa in you own country its easy that way

  • @sithembisangwenya7032
    @sithembisangwenya7032 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you bhuti for saying when they visit they need to be at our townships and perhaps the cemeteries whe our freedom fighters are buried and some farms/ plaas

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed. Thank you so much for supporting the idea as well.

  • @BlackGeoYoutube
    @BlackGeoYoutube 10 месяцев назад

    Please learn about the African American Reparations Movement.

  • @MzeewaUjiji
    @MzeewaUjiji 10 месяцев назад

    And yet you line up at the banks of the Limpopo River, day and night, to drive back Zimbabweans.

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +3

      Rule of law is still important and we value it.

    • @MzeewaUjiji
      @MzeewaUjiji 10 месяцев назад

      @@ClantisDumakude What about the abuse that you visit on all the black Africans who visit or live in your country, ie the ones that periodically rise up and kill what law are you following then? When your refugees were running to our countries during apartheid, what laws were you following then? When Angola and Mozambique were fighting your war of liberation, and lost 1.4 million and 1 million people respectively, what law were you following then?

    • @pmambongwe8640
      @pmambongwe8640 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MzeewaUjijiThey may have been illegal but they behaved in your countries and were treated as foreigners for the most part.

    • @dinaledi4085
      @dinaledi4085 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@MzeewaUjiji Hold it right there !No black South African entered any African country without permission being sought by the leaders of the political party he or she was fleeing SA through. There was always an agreement between the leaders of our liberation movements and the leaders of the country SAns are fleeing to. When the agreement went south and we were asked to leave SAns would leave peacefully and go seek refuge elsewhere. So in essence no South African entered a country in Africa illegally . The few that tried this were arrested by Africans and handed back to SA authorities. We know the countries that did this to us.
      With regards to Mozambique what happened to that relationship ? What did our freedom fighters leave Mozambique? Have you heard of the Nkomati Accord ?
      With regards to Angola you need to explain that SA was advancing into the frontline states in order to take power there. You need to explain that racist SA government supported Unita in the war between Unita and the Cuba/ Communist backed MPLA . SA wanted to install Jonas Savimbi so that they would control; Angola and keep communist countries out of Southern Africa. Most revolutionary parties at the time including the ANC were being backed by the Soviet Union and Cuba. This was causing serious threat and panic for the apartheid government. South Africans in exile were obviously on the side of the MPLA and some also died in the civil war between the MPLA and UNITA in Angola. So we could also say that SAns died for Angolans. After years of fighting this led to the Battle of Cueto Cuanavale where Cubans lost over 10 000 soldiers. The racist SA Defense Force lost thousands as well. Angolans also died . They did not die fighting for SA per se. We had a common enemy which was the SA apartheid government . When you tell history be factual , give context and be honest. If you don't do that it simply means you are spreading misinformation and propaganda.

  • @yermiyahubenyahudahbenyisr4990
    @yermiyahubenyahudahbenyisr4990 10 месяцев назад

    Don't believe everything this is just a hot topic so everyone is speaking about it many are not posting and making videos because they are to busy building a life those who are lying about mistreatment or forced to leave Africa is propaganda stop spending the lies

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      I wish I knew what you're saying because after reading your comment more than three times, I'm left even more confused. Try typing slower and less emotional. Thanks.

    • @africaine4889
      @africaine4889 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ClantisDumakudehave you noticed something about the kind of youtubers putting this stories out? Stories of 2 years ago suddenly different small african youtubers with little subscribers are putting it out just to have views and more subscribers. Whenever there is a video about AA they know it will indeed attract AA, views and subscribers. And most of those subscribers come from 2 areas: kenya and uganda

  • @ninasimone3765
    @ninasimone3765 10 месяцев назад

    We don’t like to be called Africans Americans we are foundational black Americans period

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +13

      You're telling this to the wrong platform. Until your social security described you as an African American, you're an African American, period.

    • @africaine4889
      @africaine4889 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@ClantisDumakudethank you! Very well said. My husband is AA and he doesn't want to be called FBA. He didn't even know what FBA was. He is a proud African American.

    • @mticha9566
      @mticha9566 10 месяцев назад +3

      It’s not Africans who came out with the name African Americans but originated from you guys in America. We only say that because some of you want to be called black Americans. I grew up knowing and calling you black Americans. Nothing to do with Africans.

    • @ThembelaniMnomiya-tt6cr
      @ThembelaniMnomiya-tt6cr 10 месяцев назад +1

      We as South African never gave you that name it was yourself.We just complied to respect you as a people .Chill ,we like you but you not a priority or that important for us to be labelling you . Especially in SA ,be blessed whatever you prefer being called

  • @sonowx8396
    @sonowx8396 10 месяцев назад +5

    There are millions of Black former slaves in the Caribbean
    Remember to mention us as so many of you on the continent only seem to talk about America
    You may contact me for information on this.
    So different for us Blacks in the Caribbean who know so much about Africa

    • @ClantisDumakude
      @ClantisDumakude  10 месяцев назад +1

      I agree with you.

    • @sonowx8396
      @sonowx8396 10 месяцев назад +3

      @ClantisDumakude in fact most podcasts seem to bypass the Caribbean as far as being their brothers and sisters and only refer to Black America!!
      Another truth is that there were more African slaves distributed into South America the both the Caribbean and America combined.
      So why are all of our poscasters on the continent only familiar With Black America when referring to the Diaspora??
      I have a lot of things o need to say but am looking for the correct partner in Africa to speak with !!
      If any of you there need this collaboration please make contact with me

    • @R1M1r1m1
      @R1M1r1m1 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@sonowx8396 Probably like he said already, it's because he has mostly come into contact with Black Americans. Plus, as a daughter of a Jamaican and Trinidadian born in America I know for a fact that SOME Caribbeans aren't really trying to associate themselves with Africa. They love England though. My parents were not like that thank goodness.

    • @africaine4889
      @africaine4889 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@sonowx8396the answer is easy. They fell like AA bring more views. We love you all. Every single black from the diaspora