The reasons Airbus hasn't killed Boeing... yet!
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The Boeing company is experiencing its worst crisis in decades due to the 2 Boeing 737 MAX 8 accidents in Indonesia and Ethiopia. The MCAS software has really put questions in the heads of potential airline customer to Boeing.
It would seem like a perfect opportunity for a rival like Airbus to swoop in and take over the market completely.... So why isn't in happening?!
In todays video I will give you 3 (possibly 4) different reasons why Airbus is staying nicely on the sidelines as this is unfolding.
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Never interupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Wise!
very well said
I'd rather drive for 18 hours than take a 2.5 hour flight on an airbus.
Like airbus hasn't screwed the pooch, ever. They both suck.
What a quote 👍
I'm doing a Masters degree in Aerospace Engineering, I have some guest lecturers who are structural engineers from Airbus. I asked one of them if Airbus is going to take advantage of the Boeing crisis, and he said "what could we do even if we wanted to? The waiting list on a new aircraft is eight years, it's much quicker for the airlines to just wait for Boeing to fix it".
that is true but I wish they could get it done and lets us get Boeing packing great gains shortcuts and shoddy workmanship and kiss people not good
@Ghostline: Offtopic (couldn't see way to ask privately), but: may I ask where are you studying Aerospace? I'm also studying it myself, in Austria.
@@estoniaman I do home study not as pro but as a hobby i have learn a few things from pilots and other people
Smart engineers!
Not correct. Both Airbus and Boeing uses many of the same supplier. Airbus can simply boost production with the excess capacity.
Airbus doesn't have to do a thing: Boeing's management is destroying Boeing faster and more efficiently than any external force could.
Dam swivel chair pigs.. Pig managers cutting corners then claiming big bonuses to buy more luxuries.
Unfortunately they are more obsessed with return on investment, everything else is secondary.
Of all companies, I expected better from Boeing!
Boeing management has been pretty scummy for a while now, from what I’ve heard.
It's not just Boeing, unfortunately... business schools have been vomiting up waves of MBAs who aren't capable of effectively managing the rubber duck in their bath. It's easy to recognize these jerks: they say "shareholder value" at a 15 to 1 ratio over "customer value".
the dog sleeping is too cute, didn't notice it at first...
I think the dog is dead ...
@@JamesBond77 It's leg was wagging.
wow i noticed that before i noticed him
His master's voice probably lulled him to sleep.
Me, too, sadly
Once upon a time, Boeing was run by Engineers and now it's run by bean counters.
arphaksad01 its run by wealthy investors. At least bean counters know where all the beans are
The Engineers they have now are hired on the basis of equity not competence.
The MCAS problems is what happens when the company is run by shareholders and accountants, Boeing thinking it’s fine to cut costs at the expense of safety!
@@forza223bowe5 -- Id say it's bad logic-sys review, and maybe too much Aerospace Engineers not knowing how to communicate effectively with programming code engineers
Steve Jobbs one said something like that. Basically, a company becomes trash once it's no longer the people designing the products that run the company but the marketing people.
I remember talking about this with my dad, an airline pilot, years ago. In his case, in favor of Boeing actually, as he was a Boeing fan and at times referred to Airbuses as "Airbags" or "Crash-buses." I'd say the tables have turned a bit since then, not to mention that he's now become an A320 captain and, while still not a fan of how it flies, he seems reasonably happy with it. I asked him about airlines or airplane manufacturers bashing the safety record of competitors, and he said that this would hurt everyone, be a net loss for the company doing it. Despite the safety record of flying being one of the safest possible ways of traveling, the public is still very fearful of it, scared of flying. Anything that mentions hazards of flying, even if on a competitor's airline or plane, will turn the public away from flying period, hurting all airlines and manufacturers. The biggest opponent isn't other competing airlines or manufacturers, it's the public's fear of flying. The other points are interesting as well - basically that it would be in both manufacturer's benefit to cooperate and agree upon how much improvement to make rather than either developing a new vastly superior product, forcing the other to do the same, at great expense to both. They aren't actually scheming on this, more it sounds as though Airbus tricked Boeing into staying with this strategy. From an airline and industry perspective this is sort of a disadvantage, as it means that neither are making the best planes they could, a drawback of a duopoloy like this - more players in the game might change that. The other thing is simply that both are at their capacity for manufacturing planes, and if something happened to one, the other wouldn't be able to sell any more planes than they already are as they can't build them.
Russia will be doing from next year what neither of them has done, the MC-21 starts mass production.
How can you write out "period" and then continue with a comma. Shame on you.
It would be nice for Embraer to come up with some competition for the short-medium haul single isle airplanes, since they're already the best in the areas they participate (shot haul narrow bodies turbofans (E145 and E195-E2) and military transport).
@@395leandro Yeah, I could see them being one of the potential duopoly-busters - they've not really done anything major new that I'm aware of recently, maybe something is going on behind the scenes? The Bombardier Cseries had the potential to disrupt things as well, but it ended up being sold off to Airbus as the A220 and thus joined rather than disrupted the duopoly.
@@quillmaurer6563 The new Embraer E195-E2 is a direct competitor to the A220 and is vastly superior in terms of efficiency, but Airbus' size still forces airlines to purchase their model, although in the recent Farnborough festival there was a significant increase in E195-E2 sales. The KC-390 Millennium is proof that Embraer has the capacity to compete against giants such as Lockheed and build larger heavier airplanes with all the latest technology. However I believe they just simply don't have the cash to support the expensive development of an airplane that will have to compete with Boeing and Airbus in market that they already dominate. Well established airlines aren't going to suddenly switch from their fleets of 737s or A320s all of sudden. Even if Embraer could enter this market it would probably take decades to become an established name for those bigger airplanes. It's really a shame. I'm Brazilian and I fly a small Embraer so I really wish I could see them grow more and tackle the giants.
This reminds me of 50 years ago: my father was an airline exec and their main competitor had a long strike. I said to my father, "This is good for you, right?" and he replied "In the short term. But in the long term, anything that's bad for the industry is bad for us."
Father's are disagreeable pricks at the end of the day.
@ -- You must be talking about YOUR father, because you're not talking about mine.
@@linguinatorschwartz9309 He was a no mark no one is talking about him.
Airbus has such long list of orders for A320 neo, that I suppose they simply cannot deliver more
More than 6000
Can confirm this is the case.
It's over 7000
You r the one who nails it not him.
@Smokeango not all the backlogs are because of these engines. They have just so much more orders then available productionspots is one thing. Also airliners can't get 6000 planes in in just one year, the old fleet is also aging at different levels, so they order 100 planes and want them at a rate of 25 per year or so. Then the transition goed fluid.
Your little dog is dreaming about running across the range.
Michael No, he was chasing a cat!
Nice comment. I think he was just off in doggie la la land.
Chasing squirrels
Hypoxia
@@terryboyer1342 That's Molly. She.
The comments on this video: 75% actually stuff about the video. The other 25% is about the dog
World of Tech that’s because the dog is 75% of the video lol
the dead dog?
@@AllaBader01 OMG. 😃😃
SoughtBugMC %75 %24.67 plus this thread %0.32
Hey, As always I hope you're doing absolutely fantastic.
Your dog is always sleeping on the couch in a particular manner that it makes me wonder if it's a real or just another fluffy toy!
Love that you changed the pillow- that means you definitely read your viewers comments! Love the channel keep it up!
Not just a pilot, but a half-decent economist too. Nice insight, thanks.
The thumbnail made me laugh for a good few minutes :)
I'm still laughing 😁
Ok
what’s even crazier, the “rat” plane picture is a plane from Garuda Indonesia Airlines. but, “Garuda” is a mythological creature which is very close to an eagle.
4:32 ???? I don't see anything to laugh but.... I don't know why I'm laughing... Hahaha
@Erich Weiler You are quite correct when you say that Airbus is nowhere near Boeing. By looking at the sales figures we can see that Airbus is way in front of Boeing and if this keeps going then there will only be two manufacturers in future. Airbus and a Chinese maker as Boeing will join McDonnell and Douglas into the history books.
Excellent, well rounded presentation. Thanks M.P.
Loved the video, and navigation lamp cushions!
Thank you for the beautiful video, i must say it's not what i was expecting i learned something new.
Aviation is all about understanding and trust.
Great video and I completely agree with all. The big thing is to understand that aviation fanatics love a particular company over understanding the whole picture to include financial.
Very well reasoned, as always. If either manufacturer starts casting stones at their rival you can bet the rival will throw back just as hard.
You and Sam Chui are the benchmark for interesting and nice technical and commercial vlogs. Very nice and thanks a lot for sharing this with us.
Nice sound effects !
Your dog is certainly a sound sleeper!! It's not even breathing! Good video. Informative.
Good analysis. For a while I didn't think the dog was alive.
This dog is on all the vids. Or the other way around.
@@m.t.8181 The brown one seems to be in more vids recently than the white one.
Great video thank you …. I love your Port and Starboard cushions !
Brilliant! I didn’t pay attention to that at all.
Well explained sir, clear and precise explanation on the subject matter.
Great explanation of the effects of a market duopoly!
Sounds like the US auto industry in the 50’s
This was awesome! I'm an econ prof and am going to use this vid as a special assignment. It covers the Game Theory of "oligopoly" perfectly :)
I love you how your dog is always relaxed
Kwesi Mensah
Good calm, grounded owners....
Thanks Peter, It would be interesting to see your comments about the future rise of Comac Airliners from China and how that could impact the duopoly you made this video on.
thanks for the explanation ! I love all your videos... and your dog ! :) what kind is it ? What kind of equipment does she fly ?
Very interesting. And it does make sense. Really enjoy your vids.
that's a great explanation. I am an accountant and you really explained the economic and accounting situation in a very simple way.
i serious hope that Boeing will survive and learn from this crisis. A healthy and respectful competition is vital for advancement.
Agreed. Boeing has a lot of great workers and suppliers counting on its success. It's the top people that need to go
@@daffidavit Due to it's shenanigans with the FAA (self-certification, no oversight etc) Boeing have suffered severe damage. Both their flagship airplane (the Dreamliner) and their new workhorse airplane (the 737 Max) have failed catastrophically because of this and are basically dead in the water. No matter what Boeing will try to ressurect them, their reputation is blown forever.
So for Boeing it's back to the drawing tables and develop, build and test completely new airplanes. That takes quite some time and what are they going to do in the meantime? Yes, the venerable old Boeings are still flying, but those have nothing against the new Airbus Neo, so Boeing can expect to see many customers going to Airbus for their new planes. That's something that can't easily be turned around.
Boeing have not only shot themselves in the foot for this batch of airplanes, but also for the foreseeable future. Boeing doesn't only have no new airplanes to directly compete with Airbus at this time, it's yet to be developed new airplanes have to prove themselves without get automatic acceptance because the Boeing credibility has been shot down as well with this debacle. This has way more consequences than Boeing executives might have dreamt of when they decided to put profit before safety and reliability.
@@tjroelsma Yes, I agree with you but the FAA are not victims nor angels here either. Now they (FAA) are trying to save face by acting as if they had the wool pulled over their eyes when they too knew what was going on. But the FAA is understaffed. They only have so many people in the Administration to oversee everything. How can an Administrative agency as the FAA be underfunded and underemployed? Maybe they are bottom heavy with not enough chiefs. I believe from talking to other aviation attorneys that the attorney staff at the FAA is understaffed. There was a recent freeze on hiring FAA attorneys. That root problem was caused either by Congressional underfunding or FAA management misappropriating sufficient oversight funding.
Here the FAA could have insisted that Boeing report more of its MCAS system problems but did not have enough FAA employees to supervise the top management of Boeing. So IMHO it was similar to the old adage of the "fox protecting the hen house". Does anybody here honestly believe that Boeing "paid off the FAA" to look the other way? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
I don't believe the FAA was in "cohoots' with Boeing. I believe the FAA had to delegate to Boeing its oversight responsibility because the U.S.A. is in competition with Airbus to built better aircraft so as to benefit the U.S. economy. Some will say "I'm in a dreamworld". Maybe I am and don't realize it, but I choose to believe the lack of FAA oversight was due to a congressional underfunding by not having enough inspectors on board to oversee the building of Boeing aircraft.
I am a loyal homegrown born here American since the 1950s. I've taken an oath to follow the Constitution of the U.S.A as my duty to appear before the Federal Courts of the United States. I want to see my Country respected as the best of the best. But I can not sit by and watch the "bean-counters" run a company like Boeing when the engineers should have had the final say. The FAA could have stopped this but they didn't and now the FAA brass has "egg on their faces". So now what? Is it in the best interest of my Country, the U.S.A. to penalize the entire Boeing company because the top management was too money hungry while the FAA administration was weak?
There may be others here who disagree with me. I'd like to hear from them as well just for the heck of it. Be well and happy this New Year to TJ Roelsma and other friends interested in this conversation..
@@daffidavit Happy New Year to you too.
The FAA being understaffed to me is a deliberate move to slowly kill off the Government, one of the spearpoints of the GOP. Oversight is not necessary according to them, because fine, upstanding companies like Boeing will self-regulate and produce the best and safest airplanes possible if only the Government will leave them be. Well, look at how that escalated within even a few years: Boeing's new airplanes grounded, possible for good, and Boeing's reputation almost completely wiped out.
But has anyone from the GOP officially responded to this s*** show yet? Or are they too busy pretending their collective noses bleed? Everyone with half a working braincell could have seen this coming, but pushing an agenda is far more important than maintaining decent oversight.
And the US isn't alone in this: the infamous Dieselgate could only happen because lazy Governments issued very strict regulations to car manufacturers and then left the certification to that same car manufacturers. Yes, they did some random tests, but under exactly the artificial settings prescribed in the regulations, so it was very easy to cheat. And then when the bubble burst, those same Governmenst cried "foul", while ostensibly washing their hands in innocence.
We're in a period where on a global scale Governments are swiftly moving from governing on behalf of their citizens to governing on behalve of corporations. And politicians are happy to oblige, because they know that if they play ball, after their political career there's a cosy job at one of the corporations waiting. Oaths and Constitutions mean nothing to them, it's all about "how can I reap the most benefit from my political career and insure a nice job afterwards."
@@tjroelsma Sadly, you speak the truth. I hope Boeing can overcome this. It's an absolute shame that there are many Boeing Max 737s just sitting on ramps with protective plastic over them. The software problem can and was probably overcome. Just allow both AOA sensors to work together with the revised and improved software. Then train all the pilots in a simulator to learn how to turn off the system in an emergency.
I'm sure the problem has been solved. But why are not these "fixed" 737 Max airplanes not allowed to fly anymore? Even if all MAX pilots must take a "new MAX" "Flight training course", it must be less expensive than to require a new "type 737 MAX" rating".
I'm afraid the FAA is in fear for itself and its reputation for the potential of allowing the New MAXs to fly. They are not unsafe. Just train the 737 pilots to fly them under the new parameters. Adjust the new software to respond to both AOA sensors, not just one on an alternating cycle. Then get ride of the name, "MAX". It sounds like and "OLD DOG". "Here Max, here max".
In my opinion the name should be changed to the 737 "Phoenix". Remember "The Flight of the Phoenix"?
Thanks for the well considered insight. I love that the dog is just passed out by your side.
Great explanation Mentour Pilot, it is in absolutely nobodies interest to have just one major aircraft manufacturer
Look at that sleeping angel.
Yah, Sleepy needs some pilot stripes on his shoulder.
ponpojp the dog too!
It's dead.
@Max Ant
Nope, she's asleep.
@Feeds Raven
Nope. He has TWO of these dogs, one the girl, and the other Paxti which is brown and a boy.
Aviation business build on thrust
Hehe
exceot when it comes to the customers. lol
PUN CITY!
So is it fair to say IN GOD WE THRUST?
Especially in takeoffs
Amazing content always!!!!
Very good ,thanks for the discussion. It is very sad that we have had so many casualties that have brought about this situation.
I do enjoy your explanations and knowledge sharing.
6:05 In the beginning there was DeHavilland. Their Comet was the first ever jet airliner. After initial problems and the likes of Boeing learning from DeHavilland's errors, the Comet became one of the safest ways to fly.
Your dog is Asleep and Dreaming, legs twitching, as it does great things! LOL
I haven't flown for a good number of years but do I have a fear of flying.I do admire the skill and engineering that goes into both building and flying aeroplanes though and find your videos very interesting. keep up the good work.
Contact a local flight school and ask them about a discovery flight. For around $300 - $500 they will put you in the left seat of a C172 and take you up to let you fly the plane around and show you a few things.
Hey Mentour, your cute little dog is thoroughly unimpressed with aviation news. Thanks for this great video!
I see Garuda Indonesia planes on the thumbnail, I click.
Also, good thumnbail editing humor and explanation of the current industry.
That's eagle.
Joshua Balondo the 737 on the thumbnail has the Garuda Indonesia livery
If the max was built by Airbus it would have been grounded in the US immediately after the first accident in Indonesia. It took a second deadly accident to ground the max, and even then Boeing and FAA were reluctant. Says it all really.
YER very very unfair unfair practices that is why I think they should be ban from flying this type or have to get a new plane great gains shortcuts and shoddy workmanship and kiss people not good
I don't agree. Airbus's are very safe as are Boeing planes. Airbus's have had crashes before without groundings.
stimproid but none of their crashes were of such exact repeats that highlighted a critical flaw in the design of the aircraft.
@@brendanpetry6709 How does that relate to the original comment?
LMFAO, treating conspiracy theory as the truth.
nicely done Sir! this b737 max situation will be a wake up call for not just Boeing but the aviation industry in general! i am sure this will be looked back on as a defining moment.hopefully we will be all better and safer for it!
I hope so.
This is amazing It is a key insight into my life as a person; as a professional etc
@9:14 - game theory in a duopoly was the most interesting part of this video
The thumbnail had me cracking up for no less than 5 minutes straight
Great insight on the development of the new types!
Great vid💙
Airbus cant kill Boeing and vice versa...it is a duopoly. Airbus would have to more than double capacity and lose billions driving Boeing from the marketplace
And also, I'm not sure if that's a desired situation for Airbus. It's the competition that's desired, even from companies. Airbus would like to keep the competition, and keep winning slightly over their competition. They wouldn't get much by being the sole world supplier of airplanes - they might even be broken up, nationalised, or otherwise reduced to a less dynamic company.
@@martinborgen Can't really nationalise a multinational, but hiving off defense & space branches maybe. A monopoly wouldn't be good for *us*, but there are a few other makers who could eventually provide some competition.
Exactly. And one thing nobody is mentioning here - Airbus simply wouldn't be able to produce enough planes to cover the entire market if Boeing went down entirely.
There's also the "what goes around comes around" fear. Any manufacturer humble enough to remember its last crisis and wondering what it's next might look like is going to have second thoughts about reacting in ways it would not want others to react towards it in the future.
Airbus needs Boeing as a competitor, as without Boeing the US government would come down hard on Airbus in areas such as anti-trust, as well as spending massive amount of state aid (screw the WTO) to create a successor for Boeing. One big reason why the US turned against Concorde was because their own SST, the Boeing 2707, failed. That means there's no local champion for supersonic travel, so the door was slammed shut for Concorde. Also airlines like Southwest depend heavily on Boeing, and they would pay whatever price for Boeing to stay in the market.
737, when it first launched, also had major design flaws similar to 737 max with 2 major crashes back to back, but still managed to be one of the most popular plane type today. While md-10 with similar flaws wounded up taking the company down with it, literally.
It's extremely hard to predict the outcome of these incidents. It's anyone's guess what happens to the max now. It could come back with even more record breaking orders too. No one knows.
Retired Boeing machinist here . Well explained , so the general public can somewhat understand the whole process . Having watched new technology come into aircraft over the years I have been well educated on the trials of each one . Both manufacturers have had problems with each . Composites and larger engines , but fly by wire was and still is a potential problem . Another good video , thanks .
That thumbnail is the most creative one i've ever seen.
To watch sleeping cute Dog is second best thing in video
Wonderful analysis. Your interpretation of aircraft manufacturers' behavior makes sense. Going forward, what factors can improve Boeing's name after the max disasters, notwithstanding Airbus's safety standing being unchanged. It seems that politics rather than science dominated Boeing's decisions
Very good explained!!!! Thank you!!!
Excellent - Very interesting thanks!
I worked for a private ambulance company years ago. They aggressively took on as many contracts that they could in order to tie up the local market in non- emergency patient transportation.
The problem was that there was no control over the timing. When many of the hospitals and nursing homes needed to send patients at once there were not enough ambulances to satisfy everyone. The contracts disappeared because no one was satisfied.
A similar fate could happen to Airbus. Imagine if everybody dumped Boeing and Airbus had to suddenly rush to produce say 20%-30% more aircraft. Airbus quality and safety could suffer and put their company into an even worse position than Boeing is going through now.
I am sure that Airbus is smart enough to know this public distrust will last as long as the media has interest in the stories.
I wish that I had bought stock in BP when they punched a hole in ocean. We don't hear about BP anymore.
Lastly Molly is dreaming about runaway stabilizer trim.
This video is exactly the mark of mentour as a great teacher, I knew almost everything he talked about in this video, but I never understood the basics of airbus vs boeing duopoly, and certainly never knew the cost efficacy of various upgrades vs new types altogether.. Great job!.. 😊🤙
Very informative without padding.
I'm actually just tuning in to check on the dog.... looks good.
Welcome to type change iPad training:
Please be advised in this type the seatbelts off switch operates the fuel jettison system.
This is not quite accurate... it only operates under specific, somewhat complex conditions :)
I wonder how many airlines have crashed because of exploding iPads in the cockpit?
Joe Biden cabin staff request that the passenger in the aft toilet leave and allow other passengers to use it.
Complicated when it comes to cost 🙄 🙄.(The doggy is having an absolutely fantastic nap❤.)
Two things:
1. Very detailed video.
2. How did you manage to make your dog sleep peaceful during your good presentation.
The dogs always seem to be asleep.
Thank you, very informative
Not trashing your competitors is standard practice in most serious areas of business. It's a weak sales technique because it suggests your products can't sell on their own merits, is a bad look because it appears somewhat unscrupulous and underhand, and is potentially insulting to your customer (implies they are too stupid to work out for themselves if rival products are inferior to yours), and is therefore ineffective. The art of sales is making the customer feel positive about your service/product, not negative about your competitors.
Great Job explaining that. I wish more people understood this scenario. 👍
Now if only politics took this to heart. :)
Air New Zealand flew only Boeing 737-300 for domestic and Trans Tasman flights. But now have completely changed to Airbus A320 so airlines do change airline manufacturing companies.
Aer Lingus and BA also flew 737s for many years before switching over the Airbus A320s and their derivatives. Easyjet is another example as is Lufthansa.
Delta transitioned from a largely Boeing/McDonald Douglas fleet to almost all airbus. It happens all the time.
BA inherited an order for A320s when it bought Bcal and operated a small fleet of them alongside the 737s for a number of years. The BA order for A319s came 20 years later and was initially for the regional bases at Birmingham and Manchester (although Manchester never got theirs in the aftermath of 911).
53% ownership by the federal government has a lot to do with it. You don’t really have to answer to shareholders (who are probably just as happy the government is underwriting their airline if it starts to succumb to competitive pressures).
You’ll never see SWA switch to Airbus, or Alaska, or JetBlue switch to Boeing.
Easyjet also had 737s at one point and look what happened now.
Great explanation. Makes perfect sense.
I've heard in some documentary that Boeing got the news from the media that American Airlines would like to order around 100 B737 with new engines along with the A320neo order, and that basically made Boeing rush with the max instead of creating a completely new airframe.
They still probably plan on doing that in the near future using experiences that they've gained developing the 787.
Hi Petter!
Extremely good video!!
You made me remember a lesson I learned from Bill Gates, in person 1994 in Stockholm. At that time Windows NT was new, it's called Windows 10 today. Windows NT at the time could run on four different processors. Intel, Mips, PowerPC and Digital Equipments Alpha. I asked Bill about this and I will never forget his answer on who would win. "It's not about technical qualities, it's about fabs". Fabs is translated as manufacturing plants. The only company that had huge resources on that was Intel.
If the balance shifts between Boeing and Airbus it will be a slow process because of that reason.
Could you please rephrase that Im not quite sure I understood correctly, but I'd like to.
Thanks!
@@DrunkHog Hi! Lets skip the IT part of it!
A shift in market shares between Boeing and Airbus cannot happen fast. Say that Boeing looses half of the orders for 737 MAX and they go to Airbus instead. It will take Airbus years to expand their factory capacities to build that many more aircraft than they are building today. Therefore a change will be slow.
Hope I got it better this time :-)
@@rudolfabelin383 thanks.
I was trying to better understand the anslogy.
They should put your videos in the inflight entertainment system on planes ✈️ then I will like travelling even more
For complete fun they should put “Air Crash Investigation” and “Mayday” episodes on board. All 20 seasons of them!!
There are more planes in the oceans than submarines.
Ye
@@antoy384 I once read a book called Black Box on a flight, the cabin crew were not amused!
@@antoy384 i totally agreed.
Once I remember seeing air crash investigation on a plane tv!
Thanks for the insights.
NG stands for Next Generation. Thanx 4 your vids guy!
"As always, i hope you're doing absolutely fantastic"
Another reason you forgot to mention is production capacity... even if Airbus wanted to attack the Boeing orders they cannot propose new planes before at least 4 years because they have a limited production capacity, which they are currently increasing to around 60 planes a month, and a big backlog.
Very interesting analysis. Many thanks.
One. Of. Your. Best. Thank you. . (Great music, bty.)
Very informative. Have enjoyed your videos so much I joined Patreon.
The DC-10 went on to have a great track record and an amazing safety record as a freighter. After a couple blunders people become scared to fly on a DC-10. Several several of them are still in the sky today. I wonder if the 737 max will have a similar fate.
I've seen MD-11s, but not DC-10s.
@@fighter5583 -- When McDonnel bought Douglas, they renamed the DC-10 to "MD-11." An MD-11 *IS* a DC-10 (with the problems fixed).
@@linguinatorschwartz9309 It is; but at the same time, it's a whole 'nother aircraft.
Doubt if the Max will be that good...
Fascinating insight!
Very interesting!
There was a time when monopolies were crushed by the state in public interest. So Duopolies keep the semblance, but kind of work together anyway. Tbh. I’ve been expecting Amazon to be split for some years now...
Yes. It’s under Anti-Trust legislation. That’s what broke up Standard Oil into the plethora of US oil companies that exist today and made Rockefeller the world’s first billionaire.
Russians and Chinese aircraft into the breech.
@@bernardfong1019 -- Not after that June 2019 crash at Moscow.
Stadtpark90 boeing wouldn’t be split up by the state, when it’s the state that insures its existence. The American government would never allow true competitive forces to come to bear against that company, it has nothing to do with commercial travel, it’s about jobs and military research and development
in thrust we trust
Could you talk about the Airbus 220/Bombardier C series? I'm curious about how it's fitting in the industry
Thanks for all the videos!
Love your videos
That thumbnail has some very interesting editing
I think they will fix flight controls so that everything is standard from a320 to a380, so all controls and all cockpits are near identical.
oh the training app in IPAD reminds me of the training app we had in the Cisco certifications...
I watched the whole video thumbnail and thoroughly enjoyed it.
You make a good point. When the Airbus A320 crashed at the 1988 Paris airshow, other aiecraft manufacturers didn't condemn them. The media was doing a through enough job of that. In My business's I never bad mouth my compitition, I Build better products, and satisfy customer needs, and wants. Thats what Boeing, and Airbus will do.-
airbus was blamed by ignorant people for decades..... now they start to understand the reality....
That plane was performing a stunt. I don’t recall any airbus A320 going nose down due to sensor issues
@@toffonardi7037 You are correct Toffo. "Ignorant" people did blame them ever since.
@@forza223bowe5 ....... If an aircraft not responding to pilot command and doing its own thing is a stunt, you would be right.
@@forza223bowe5 AF 447 went down because of faulty sensors, and pilot error.
Thanks for this informative video captain!
12:03 Aww your dog is dreaming :D
That is an interesting view.
As an economist I agree with what you were saying about the market. In a few-player market, it is in the interest of the players not to compete. It relates to game theory -- if you hit them, they will hit you back and you both lose out on income competing for consumers. The fact is, with a tougher airplane competition, we counsumers could have had cheaper flights.
I think it is worth mentioning that both Airbus and Boeing are heavily subsidised by their countries, that is why there is so little competition. As a consequence none of them are building aircrafts the most efficient way, but are forced to build them so that the jobs stay in the subsidising countries.
Airbus is subsidized and backed by their countries Boeing is not. Boeing is a large company that could go under Airbus cant.
@@TheOldelwood The U.S is subsidising Boeing by the billions, there has been countless trade conflicts in the WTO for many years involving both companies.
Makes sense?
Good.
my problem with airbus is that the control sticks are not linked. I think that occurred with the Air France crash between Brazil & Africa. The low time co-pilot held his control tightly and I believe that was the problem.
Yes, that is correct. He mentioned he'd been pulling back the whole time but his admission came too late.
Interesting analysis indeed
Great video