HorizonHobby.com How-To: Understanding RC Motor Technology

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  • @surprisepowertv9915
    @surprisepowertv9915 4 года назад +1

    Very awesome - even 12 years later! I watched it all and took notes!

  • @danseto1745
    @danseto1745 4 года назад

    Horizon as a company has been a pleasure to deal with. Bought Axial Jeep JLU in late Nov 2020 and it had a faulty servo on the DIG function. I live in Canada and Horizon warranty the servo on my word telling them. Shipped prepaid and arrived in less than two weeks. This video is very helpful when being bombarded with what's available to buy for aftermarket motors. So Thanks for making these videos.

  • @dylanwhite6539
    @dylanwhite6539 5 лет назад +5

    I felt the need to put this out there, the reason for 3 wires vs 2 wires on BL vs B is more so due to the commutation. A brushless esc needs to have an electronic commutator inside rather than the physical of the brushed.

  • @kattmat28
    @kattmat28 2 года назад +1

    How does one get that kind of shine on ones head? Love it.

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 11 лет назад +9

    Thank you. I was always wondering why brushless motors needed a special ESC.

  • @cm6gaming259
    @cm6gaming259 6 лет назад +1

    Best video ever made on RUclips. THANK YOU!!!

  • @pirhala
    @pirhala 7 лет назад +2

    Very well spoken!!! We need more info about RC from this guy here. 👏🏻

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  11 лет назад +3

    It is specific to each motor honestly. Most high-performance brushed motors aren't being produced any longer as most of these manufacturers have moved to brushless technology.

  • @chunkynugget
    @chunkynugget 10 лет назад +23

    Sir, you explain like a Boss! Thank you!

  • @MattPym
    @MattPym 11 лет назад

    That was an excellent video, it really cleared up the whole Brushless motor technology for me.... Now, to learn about lithium batteries and esc for brushless. This is what I get for 3 years out of the hobby haha

  • @costaricaflyer1532
    @costaricaflyer1532 9 лет назад +1

    OUTSTANDING video! Very informative. I fly quads and am moving up to brushless motors so even tho you were talking about RC vehicles, it still translated well into how it would apply to quad multi-rotors. Many thanks for a great video.

  • @financialloser
    @financialloser 5 лет назад

    Your knowledge on this topic is awesome. Really appreciate you taking the late nights opening and playing with different motors. Takes a lot of patience, and a very cool wife if u know what I mean. I have to sneak my RC time in. And everyone knows that once u sit down and Start dissecting for hours without noticing

  • @JMOSORT
    @JMOSORT 4 года назад

    And tonight i have learned the difference between 550 and 540 thank you so much

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    I understand what you are saying. With any "sealed endbell" motor there is the opportunity to "pop" the endbell off by applying enough pressure to the tabs to make them spread. This motor is not designed to have the timing adjusted once it has been assembled.

  • @JustAnotherOldMan
    @JustAnotherOldMan Год назад

    Thanks for the great instructional intro to these motors !
    Great work and easily understood

  • @centersnare32
    @centersnare32 9 лет назад +4

    Extremely well made, informative video. I definitely learned a lot as a new comer to the RC car hobby!

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  11 лет назад

    All depends on if you want to go brushed or brushless. I've heard very good things about systems from Novak and Tekin in both brushed and brushless. The Timbuk2 from Novak is quite popular for an ESC along with their 21.5T or 18.5T motors.

  • @asfbi
    @asfbi 4 года назад +1

    Went from nitro to electric and was clueless thank you so much

  • @ShogunGlock
    @ShogunGlock 7 лет назад

    Awesome vid! Helped me understand electric motors a bit more. I'm a nitro guy, but i'm willing to try to understand the other side of rc. Lol, good job sir!

  • @pedrolahoz
    @pedrolahoz 2 года назад

    You are an excellent teacher!!

  • @XPureOutdoorsX
    @XPureOutdoorsX 11 лет назад

    thanks for the help. I am running a brushed system now and was wondering what i should use.

  • @emmanuelmeyermeyer1083
    @emmanuelmeyermeyer1083 3 года назад

    Very good video. Very informative. I learned alot since I took my team Losi buggy and my Traxus truck out of the closet after years of storage. I have watched alot of your videos and learned what's in and what's out. Thank You.

  • @BSpenceTravels
    @BSpenceTravels 11 лет назад

    Great video, it really helped me understand how the brushless systems work. Thumbs up.

  • @matthewprior3762
    @matthewprior3762 6 лет назад

    I love these videos with this guy. 😎 i always think of him as an RC professor. Hes taught me ALOT as a young RC wannabe.

    • @RoXolid
      @RoXolid 4 года назад

      I'm a little late to see this comment but thank you for the kind words - Gary

  • @dylanlong1887
    @dylanlong1887 10 лет назад

    Thanks I'm a big fan! Thanks for the help. Your one of the best rc channels!!!!!

  • @JH-xy2ng
    @JH-xy2ng 4 года назад +1

    He got me pump about building my brushless motor in my 1/10 scale 💪🏿🔥🔥🔥👌🏿💯

  • @vumixHD
    @vumixHD 10 лет назад

    Very informative video for someone like myself who just decided a few days ago to buy a car after about 1 day of research. I'm a beginner and I want my son to enjoy it with me but dont want a car going too fast but I also want to know how to upgrade when time comes.

  • @johnconrad5487
    @johnconrad5487 8 лет назад

    very good. thanks a lot! enjoyed all three of your videos

  • @Greywolf74
    @Greywolf74 12 лет назад

    That is a very informative and nicely explained video. I attempted to do a video not to dissimilar to this a little while back and while I did have a lot of the basic right I wasnt able to go nearly as in depth as you guys did here mostly because I have very little experience with brushed motors.

  • @MrWorkerDude
    @MrWorkerDude 11 лет назад +12

    Let us make this even more clear:
    A brushed motor runs the current though the armature making it electromagnetic that interacts with the permanent magnets in the shell of the motor.
    A brushless motor has a rotor with permanent magnets and runs the current in the shell making it electromagnetic that interacts with the rotor.

  • @SenorBolsa
    @SenorBolsa 9 лет назад +1

    I think a better way to explain brushless vs brushed is that a brushed motor uses a mechanical switch to change polarity and a brushless motor uses a computer and solid state electronics to do it. It's like mechanical fuel injection vs electronic fuel injection, the real benefit comes from being able to adjust timings without physical changes to the motor and having less resistance from mechanical parts.

  • @XPureOutdoorsX
    @XPureOutdoorsX 11 лет назад

    What kind of motor do you think would be the best for the Losi night crawler? I was trying to give it a little more speed but also try to make it keep its torque. so if you can could you please suggest a type of motor or a certain turn for it? Thanks for the help.

  • @ToneGallis
    @ToneGallis 8 лет назад

    good video for breaking down the basics

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  11 лет назад +1

    Kv-A rating of performance for brushless motors. While Kv ratings are occasionally applied to sensored motors, sensorless brushless motors are almost always rated by Kv. The higher the Kv rating of a motor the faster it will be. Kv refers to the number of RPM a motor will produce for each volt of power input to it For example a 1,000Kv motor would produce roughly 7,400 RPM at 7.4 volts.

  • @johnshepherd2011
    @johnshepherd2011 11 лет назад

    what is the power output of these brushed motors? I would like to use some brushed motors on some of my new motors, but I cannot find the power ratings of the brushed motors like I can find for the brushless motors. I know the brushed motors can accept a wide range of voltages, but I would like to at least know a range of voltages and operating powers acceptable for these motors. Thanks

  • @WouterTomme
    @WouterTomme 11 лет назад

    Thanks for an excellent explanation ! This is what i was looking for.Thanks again.

  • @RCcentral2013
    @RCcentral2013 11 лет назад

    thank you I was wondering weather the "closed end bell" had to be treated the same as an "open end bell" and now I know thank you

  • @mattsmith010171
    @mattsmith010171 10 лет назад

    Thank you, this video was very helpful in knowing the difference between brush and brushless motors. Plus I couldn't remember if more or less turns on a brush motor made it faster or slower. Very good info for RC car motors.

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  11 лет назад

    Depends on the size of the motor quite honestly. There are brushless motors for 1/5-scale vehicles that will blow away the power of those for 1/10-scales. Generally the fastest I've seen for 1/10-scale are the 2-4T motors. Crazy fast!

  • @humlakullen
    @humlakullen 3 года назад

    Awesome review... Thanks a bunch!

  • @dgs27mich
    @dgs27mich 11 лет назад

    Thank you, that will help me a lot when it comes time to up grade my old Slash to brushless.

  • @chromezeta
    @chromezeta 12 лет назад

    Great! Thanks for all the help.
    I sincerely appreciate the responses as some people wont even reply.
    Thanks again.

  • @avsfanwilly1
    @avsfanwilly1 12 лет назад

    Ok I have a question... I am currently designing a shoe with Power Laces like from BTTF for a school project... i want go make a motorized pulley. to tighten the laces what kind of motor should i get..... and how can i run the motor in both directions so the laces will loosen too... ohh and on top of that it has to all fit in the sole of the shoe

  • @cracker0190
    @cracker0190 9 лет назад +1

    Do lower turn motors have better speed but less torque or something? Why would you opt for a higher turn motor? Sorry I'm way new to this stuff

  • @Javierm0n0
    @Javierm0n0 11 лет назад

    Two questions, for those brushless, and brushed motors, what was the awg wire size and for the brushless, were those magnets specially magnetized or the basic diametric.

  • @falgianibrandon
    @falgianibrandon 12 лет назад

    whats the lowest turn brushed or brushless motor i can put in a tamiya hotshot to get the best performance out of the car.

  • @anthonyhammond6926
    @anthonyhammond6926 3 года назад

    Hi um Anthony I have 3 brushless rc traxxas 110 th scale vehicles myself this video is very enteresting too 👀 watch. I learned alot from this.

  • @varmintsniper2551
    @varmintsniper2551 2 года назад

    Will a higher turn number work better for larger tires in terms of overheating? I’m still running the original 20t in my ECX Amp MT and stock tires on 2s expecting it to fail, but it seems to not overheat like my 12T Arrma brushed on 2s does.

  • @Physicsnerd12
    @Physicsnerd12 11 лет назад

    what is the fastest brushed motor you guys have? what's its rpm and how many turn does it have? i don't care about torque. Thank you

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    It would be better, yes. It just gives you a larger margin for error in case something happens.
    Thanks for the compliment!

  • @77gerald77
    @77gerald77 11 лет назад

    Hi. What does the turns on a motor mean and what are the practical effects on performance of one or another? I'm gonna replace a titan 550 soon,any suggestions? Thanks for the vid

  • @TheKenwiesner
    @TheKenwiesner 11 лет назад

    I have used a giant brush less motor for giant scale rc planes One of them would cut out at high throttle and let out a terrible squeal when it did But throttle back and it reset and goes again. There was no over draw in amps and was using the correct voltage The lipos can deliver more then twice what the amp meter showed as being used. My question for you is How important is switching frequency and how likely is that to have been the cause of this?

  • @RCTrailblazr
    @RCTrailblazr 7 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing guys!!👍👍

  • @menace1043
    @menace1043 11 лет назад

    If I switch 2 out of 3 wires on a brushless airplane motor it will reverse the direction of the shaft. Is this the same for land brushless motors?

  • @rodcognito002
    @rodcognito002 10 лет назад

    THANK YOU. So many questions answered that I didn't even know I had. LOL

  • @michaelsmitten302
    @michaelsmitten302 9 лет назад

    Almost all electric motors are ac (stepper motors excluded) - in other words the current must somehow be switched in direction every half cycle if dc is applied. In the so-called dc motor this is achieved by the commutator, which reverses the current flow. A brushed ac supplied motor uses slip rings to get the current to the armature. Great channel, thanks

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    27T Stock motors were not allowed to have bearings per ROAR Rules.

  • @jynx-vu2zc
    @jynx-vu2zc 4 года назад

    This was so helpful . Thank you !!

  • @TheZiggyman01
    @TheZiggyman01 9 лет назад

    motors are a fun hobby in themselves. the sealed 540 motors can be safely opened and if you know what you're doing you can easily change the windings with bigger gauge laminated wire without soldering and have some cheap fun. if you can find small bearings with the right I.D/O.D diameters then you fit them on the front and end race. got 15t and 10t motors in sealed cans with a double 10t in the making all running off a tekin G9. mabuchi and johnson motors can easily be found next to nothing for rebuild or spare bushes. have fun :)

  • @russellcupples2170
    @russellcupples2170 8 лет назад

    Thank you so very much for the tutorial . It helped a lot.

  • @davidraymondsmit
    @davidraymondsmit 11 лет назад

    thank you for your vide.,it is very informative.I use to race rc 10s with my dad back in the mid 80s I am thinking of getting back into the game.and thgis video is very helpful as far as info on dif motors..thank you again.very nice video.keep up the good work.

  • @pvantuel
    @pvantuel 8 лет назад

    Fantastic tutorial. Thanks

  • @MCm0u5e
    @MCm0u5e 12 лет назад

    Thanks a lot for the all the info , Great vid !

  • @timglass6041
    @timglass6041 5 лет назад

    Thank you Sir, Good presentation, Now I know what I didn't know before.

  • @Spacesprocketz
    @Spacesprocketz 8 лет назад +3

    Thanks bro, I needed this!

  • @626micah
    @626micah 8 лет назад

    maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything in this video about using brushed motors for RC crawling. Censored brushless motors do have use in crawling but top competitors still use brushed for lower end torque and slow speed control.

  • @SokhannPha
    @SokhannPha 7 лет назад

    THANK YOU for video.. now I know what type of motor I need to replace for my car..

  • @playerDJFL
    @playerDJFL 8 лет назад +2

    Very detailed video, thank you for your knowledge!

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    It's an epoxy that the windings are dipped in. I don't know where to purchase this however, I am sorry.

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    I don't know that I've ever seen that rating for a motor. What manufacturer if you don't mind my asking?

  • @aperaturesciences5466
    @aperaturesciences5466 9 лет назад +3

    Brushless motors do NOT run on AC, they are DC that is pulsed to different sets of coils. They basically replace the commutator. The basics are the same, Electricity runs through the coil's creating a magnetic field and repel or attract to the permanent magnet that is part of the rotor. The coils are labeled A,B,C and the electricity gets flowed from A-B, then B-C, then C-A and repeat in a circle . Sensored brushless motors have Hall Effect sensors (usually 3) that tell the Electronic speed controller (esc) what the orientation of the rotor is currently in so the ESC knows which set of coils to apply current to.

    • @purrup1
      @purrup1 8 лет назад +3

      if you listened he said they basically work on AC, which is true. even though it is technically DC, a waveform that is basically a modified sine wave with a bunch of PWM is what an ESC sends a brushless motor.

  • @theirishaxe9405
    @theirishaxe9405 8 лет назад

    Cool thanks! also I bought a new summit from you guys! I also got a dhk shogun 1/8 scale I'm going to rebuild myself ! thanks guy

  • @chromezeta
    @chromezeta 12 лет назад

    What does "for modified motors" mean on an ESC? (brushed)
    How would I know my motor is "modified"? I'm trying to match a 12T (for brushed) ESC on a 13T double motor. (brushed)
    Any help would be great.

  • @itslucky3184
    @itslucky3184 8 лет назад

    Do you guys have a video on how to hop up a brushed ruckus 1:10 2wd monster truck I'm looking to and I'm confused on where to start!

    • @jameslinden6304
      @jameslinden6304 8 лет назад

      Its Lucky If it's able to be swapped for BL, you need a 540 sized motor, which is designated "3650", 36mm diameter, 50mm long. Then pick a KV rating of 2500 to 4000, and make sure its rated at least for a 3S LIPO. Get a cheap kit from eBay and give it a try. They start around $40. A LIPO battery with the right connector is needed too. 2200mah 3S with 25C should be a good starter pack. You can always go to your hobby shop if there's one near and ask. The one near me is awesome.

  • @kreynolds1123
    @kreynolds1123 6 лет назад

    I've built my own bldc motor and am trying to figure out what bldc speed controller would be appropriate.
    First thing, the motor is axial flux. The rotor has 12 poles (6 pole pairs). The stator has three coils wound with 16 gauge wire. The winding are a falharbor type winding with 4 turns (roughly 76 inches of wire in total per coil) adapted to an axial flux design. The stator has a slotless iron backing made from coiled steel banding to reduce the magnetic reluctance.
    Most radial flux bldc designs use 3 coils and two poles. I wonder if 12 pole 4 falharbor serpentine like turns would be roughly equlivent to 24 turns or something else on some of the more standard motors.
    I tried to run it on a cheap bldc controller. The bldc controllers lowest setting drew .6 amp from a 13.4v lead acid battery. That's about 8 watts. At that lowest setting the controller supplied 1.49vac, and if we assumed 100% efficent transfer of 8 watts 100% meant the coils were pulling 5.37 amps. When the motor was turned by a by a drill at 211 rpms, it generated 0.126vac. During testing the cheap chinese controller blew a couple mosfets. But ill try to answer any other questions.
    I might redo the stator with 5 turns on each coil. But there is not much hope for more turns..

  • @adam_-adam
    @adam_-adam 6 лет назад

    nice instuctional video". i have one question out of curiosity because i think i mest my motor up yeterday. i was crawling with my 20t motor doing rock climbing and i guess since the coils on this motor are thicker that maybe thats why its over heating?? i got the motor so hot it was smoking from burming the label off of the motor, i than let it cool down and when i tried to play with it it still worked but the power was almost reduced by 3/4, so im guessing is this due to the magents loosing magnetism because the motor got the magents so hot?? cuz ive heated up a magnet when i was a little kid and remember the heat made the magnet weaker so was just wonderin if thats most likely the cause of the motor acting this way, please let me know what you think.

  • @chrisovgy1989
    @chrisovgy1989 12 лет назад

    How do kws work on motors as lookin at 8k vs 3kw both run 2cell lipo...

  • @msl2796
    @msl2796 9 лет назад

    Hey, what do you do if the is sparks on the sealed brushed motor?

  • @Hachman11
    @Hachman11 5 лет назад

    What kv would I need to be equal to a 35 turn brushed?

  • @soeaung1043
    @soeaung1043 4 года назад

    Can brushless motors with ESC turn in forward and reverse direction?

  • @Cus2omBuilds
    @Cus2omBuilds 9 лет назад

    Very good video, very informative, thankyou for sharing!

  • @TheFluffyVanquisher
    @TheFluffyVanquisher 12 лет назад

    Thanks a lot! I've learned a lot about motors now :)

  • @mauroylospichiruchis544
    @mauroylospichiruchis544 5 лет назад

    hi... great video. Do you know how those copper "springs" holding the carbon brushes are called? I need to replace one and all carbon/brushes I see are a variation of a coil/wire and the carbon itself. Never the tiny copper arms pushing the carbons.Thanks!

  • @jamesvant1026
    @jamesvant1026 8 лет назад

    great video. now comes the next question. how do you choose which gear ratio is correct? esc temp, motor temp? i run a slash on oval. Last season I was so under geared my motor was barely warm after races. well i changed a few things. looks like 120-170 is about the temp range im goung to run in.

  • @JohnM-sz2vh
    @JohnM-sz2vh 10 лет назад

    Great explanation, thanks!

  • @rcman1999
    @rcman1999 11 лет назад

    looking for a hard brushes for my crawler motor what kind should I get? I have a 35 turn trinity speed gem. I replaced the stock after a year of run time to a soft brush and only got a hour of run time and the brushes were gone. so I don't know what I'm looking for. can u please help...thank you.

  • @Ittybittythetwofacedkitty
    @Ittybittythetwofacedkitty 3 года назад

    So, does a 20 turn motor have a total of 20 turns, or 20 turns on each stack?

  • @dgs27mich
    @dgs27mich 11 лет назад

    What does KV size mean in the motor, like a 2200kv, 3500kv,or 4000kv?

  • @JMiller
    @JMiller Год назад

    Thanks. Too informative. This video should have been 10 minutes long.

  • @NeutralGenericUser
    @NeutralGenericUser 11 лет назад

    Great video! Thank you so much!

  • @horizonhobby
    @horizonhobby  12 лет назад

    Anything besides a 27T brushed motor is considered "Modified". It refers to the racing class the motor is legal to race in. A 13-double is going to push the limits on that ESC but you should be ok.

  • @joshualstacy69
    @joshualstacy69 12 лет назад

    ok well i have another question, i have a all wheel drive car im gonna post a video of an was wanting to know if you can tell me what it is, ill put the video in the create a video response

  • @TheRCFantasy
    @TheRCFantasy 11 лет назад

    What if a sealed end brushed motor does not say how much turns it has, is there any way to tell????

  • @jackmcmurtrie271
    @jackmcmurtrie271 5 лет назад

    Hi there i like ur video yea i would like to put maybe 1 of these motors on my bicycle like a brushless motor i kinda want my bike to go ya know so im trying to find the motor that will work for me i kinda want my bike to go good so what would u think any ideas ty again

  • @nmadsenID
    @nmadsenID 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info! This is great.

  • @thebubinschubins
    @thebubinschubins 5 лет назад

    So what's the differences of say the 540 or 550 vs 3650 or 3660...

  • @simbak619
    @simbak619 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the great vid! Learnt heaps!!!

  • @qwiggy888
    @qwiggy888 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the crash course

  • @SophiFike
    @SophiFike 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the help! Motor specs have confused me for a while.

  • @CONFERDATIONSNIP
    @CONFERDATIONSNIP 11 лет назад

    I have one question can you use a brushless speed controller with a brushed 27 turn?

    • @Raptorduder
      @Raptorduder 10 лет назад

      Yes. Some brushless Speed controllers allow the use to go brushed. They only require the 2 outer wires to be attached to the brushed motor for it's power, while the middle just hangs. But i'd make sure to double check the speed controllers ability first to see if it says 'Brushless sensored/sensorless / brushed compatible.' or brushless/brushed ESC. Then this'll allow the use of brushed motors from a brushless ESC.