"So...what do you have to feel good about if you're a Washington State football fan right now? We brew our own beer and bottle our own wine!?!? On a serious note, we Cougs understand where Pullman is and that we can lose our coach. It has happened for decades and we somewhat expect it. It was the way Dickert left that really upset us. For weeks, he's talked about loyalty and somewhat criticized players leaving before finishing the season and the bowl game. There was rumors and flight records revealed of an upcoming flight from Pullman to Wake Forest so we knew it was coming. We would hope that Dickert would then use social media to give a thank you to the school and fans but instead his first post was him with his family in a private plane saying, "Headed your way Deacs!! See you soon!!!". Then a short video he reposted him getting off the plane and meeting the Wake Forest administration and mascot. Then a photo with his family in what looks like the Wake Forest indoor practice facility. Then he has an interview where he talks about the lack of nearby recruits available and the lack of financial support at WSU. After all of that, then he posts a thank you message to WSU. It's almost a case study of what not to do when leaving a place. If he would have sent the thank you message to WSU on his social media first and/or given a short video that he thanked WSU for the opportunity then him leaving wouldn't have been as hurtful.
@@HikingPNW Bruh. He literally followed the EXACT Jonathan “Snake” Smith exit playbook from last year. I honestly wonder if Smith walked him through the process.
@@SurfCityBill nah. Smith had his exit planned out 5 weeks ahead. I honestly think Dickert may have stayed if he didn’t see his roster was about to implode. So to answer your question, No. I don’t think Dickert had time to donate or pack his shit. Which is probably better so the Cougs faithful can have a bonfire 🔥
Oregon State experienced a similar situation last year. They face uncertainty, just like Washington State does. Things like this also indicate that a certain amount of these non-playoff bowls will have to cease to exist in the not-to-distant future. Ever since the playoff was implemented 10 years ago, players and coaches alike have made it very clear that they do not care about such games. These games have turned into a big waste of time and money and at some point, enough people will catch on to that.
So, he left a program without a power conference and without a full schedule for a P4 program that will pay more and has a more stable future. How long would it have been before WSU decided to cut his salary because they could no longer afford it? Considering that OSU was only paying their coach 1.2 million and Dickert was earning 2.7 million, I'm guessing not long. Expecting a coach to stay at a dying program is foolish.
@@richardreed6249 Richard, ur missing the point bud. Nobody is saying he can’t leave for more money. It’s the timing and the two-faceness of it that was classless.
@niallplunkett6056 I understand that, but I also know it is a business and you will never have a coach come out in week six and say " I'm looking at other job offers " I don't care how up front and honorable that coach is. Trying to hold someone to a standard that no one could meet is silly.
@ what’s silly is criticizing players for not sticking around til the end of the season, then doing the exact same thing. Dickert is classless end of story. Wake forest can have his bum ass, he doesn’t even call the plays, and when he does we lose to a 3-9 Wyoming on senior night.
If this system stays the same with NIL then this will keep happening at OSU & WSU whenever they have a successful year. Have and 8-10 win season then implode and repeat over and over.
College football is dying, and it's dragging the rest of college athletics down the tubes with it. The second the NFL decides enough is enough of drafting unprepared players and establishing their own version of the G league is when college football will officially die.
This is the future not only for OSU/WSU but for all of the "not P4" programs. Perpetual destruction on a yearly basis, as rosters get pulled apart by the P4 programs, any promising coaches get poached, and all progress in moving forward/rebuilding is lost over and over again. College football (except for the SEC and B1G maybe) is over.
After their last 4 games of the season you could see the coaching staff was gone! Head coach , arbuckle, the other offense coaches play calling was horrible! Should never fired the defense coach! Be wasnt the fault of the team the offense sucked the last 4 games! No running game etc.etc Hire the montana state coach he is 46 and 9 ! Making 400,000 makebe in bozeman? Give him 3 million and look out! He is a 10 times a better than jake! Look where he been as a coach those teams records and his experience as a head coach! Jimmy rogers at south dakota state 2nd pick. Winners both coaches.
Yes. It’s not that he left. It’s the way he left. Talks about loyalty and finishing the football season at practice a few weeks ago. Where was the loyalty Coach? I get it, money talks. But if it talks, don’t say shit like that when you plan on taking it
His previous speech about the portal was, "i get if you want to pursue other opportunities, but at least finish the season! Why wouldn't you finish?!" Proceeds to ditch his team 9 days before their bowl game. Say what you will about Dickert, but that was a low-integrity move.
Coaches rarely stick around after they announce they're leaving. The school's administration and athletic director don't want them there anymore. Plus, the coach has to move on to recruit his own players and to pursue transfers from the portal during the window. It may suck, but it's just a fact of the times. Personal attacks and criticisms may make the fan base feel better, but it's just business.
Coach Jake Dickert is a two face!!! .......Everybody wants our WSU, qb across the nation! Can't these other schools' universities find their own qb!!! 😅 WSU Cougs has always been a #1 school of qb over many years!!!!
QB hurts a lot, but Dickert seems like nothing special as a coach. Having him leave is a positive imo, it's the optics of it all (last second move to what might be the toughest job in P4 football) thay hurt so much. Not sure it was an option, but OrSt and Wazzu squeezing into the Big XII / ACC by willingly taking reduced shares seems like it should have been the play, using the "war chest" to keep them afloat through that period.
Makes it really easy to disengage with college football. The fatigue of caring has faded, we’re not going to solve anything with the woke nerds running everything either.
@@ShaneConQueso go look at the Board of Regence at WSU and tell me which of those goofy looking people is gonna save WSU from complete failure? It’s a DEI crew that already put us in this situation with their awful decision making.
What bothers me is he didn't leave for a better situation. He left just to get out of Pullman. He belongs in Wake Forest. I hope the new coach has WSU roots! We have to get Lucky in the next pick, the job is a stepping stone not a destination.
Any reasonable and honest comparison supports that WF is definitely a better situation. Spencer laid it out pretty well. Even though the ACC has its problems, WF will always have more resources for coaches and players and better recruiting areas. Any other conclusion is delusional.
All OSU and WSU essentially are now are farm clubs for the P4. College Football is ruined for the foreseeable future. It shouldn't even be affiliated with colleges since it's literally a play-for-pay league. Just make it an Official NFL minor league. These players have no accountability or loyalty to any school/brand. I'm curious the ones who do eventually play on Sunday, what college will they even identify with as many will go through two or three different colleges on their way. The sports has been completely ruined by money. NIL needs to get figured out. As a Beaver Fan/alumni, there's zero point in getting invested in the team or excited for any player, because if one of our players who we develop has a good year and gets exposure, well they will naturally be gone and hit the transfer portal, and honestly, who can blame them? They would be foolish not too. There's no incentive to see my players have success either. The reward for their success is they leave? Cool. And how are we supposed to get/keep a quality coach either? How frustrating it must be to recruit and develop guys knowing if they perform they're gonna bounce. I don't have a problem with the concept of players getting paid, but the players should be locked into contracts the same as pros. We're in an era of perpetual Free Agency. The sad thing is the changes being made are only worsening the problem, because there's no interest in helping/saving smaller schools. It's stacking the decks further against us. How is OSU/WSU supposed to have any pipe-dream of rebuilding/branding and MaYbE hOpeFuLLy oNe DaY getting back into a P4 Conference if we can't string together one or two solid seasons with a roster because turnover is 50 percent? The whole thing is a joke. We're a couple seasons away from mid-game trades/transfers. The fans in the stands will be crowd-funding transfers at half-time. What a joke. OSU is going through its second dismantling now and honestly I'm not even invested enough to care. I've been a die hard beaver for 20 years and even this season only watched about six games. It's just not that interesting... We were never a Power House School, but at least we had rivalries and it was interesting. Am I supposed to give a f**k or Get Up to Watch the Duck$ drop 60pts on us every September so they can have a warm-up game and we pretend there's any "rivalry?" Rivalries are dead. We could have a better rivalry with Corvallis High School at this point. F**k college football.
Wake Forest will be Jake's 10th school he has coached at in 18 years. His record at WSU was a dismal 23-20 and that was with the aid of super star quarterbacks of Cam Ward and John Mateer who both gave Dickert the middle finger and left his program. Notable 2024 games include losses to powerhouses of New Mexico, Wyoming and coming in LAST PLACE in the Pac-12 in 2024. Christmas has come early - HE IS GONE!
The NIL situation was going to suck either way. Dickert got a lot of grace because he was a good PR guy, but he was NOT a good coach. The team collapsed in Oct/Nov two years in a row. He lost the locker room. Long term -- IF we make a solid hire -- the situation is likely better. Cougs are pissed because of how he left. The fact that he left doesn't make the situation any worse in the long run. Also -- Jim Mora is the worst. No thank you.
I'm never going to lose interest in my Ducks. Not just because we've had a special year, but because...I love my Ducks and Denver Broncos more than I love most people. But interest in the sport as a whole is almost gone. I was a Oregon Ducks and CFB fan a few years ago. Im just an Oregon Ducks fan now.
Seriously what did ypu expect stop your whining Geez why is it that WSU alway act like when something like this happens to them they are the worse victims loo, what happened to the Huskies last year did you see a their fans crying after losing their whole team . Ok coug fan when another employee offers you more money for a better job I like to see you refuse the offer .
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"So...what do you have to feel good about if you're a Washington State football fan right now?
We brew our own beer and bottle our own wine!?!?
On a serious note, we Cougs understand where Pullman is and that we can lose our coach. It has happened for decades and we somewhat expect it. It was the way Dickert left that really upset us. For weeks, he's talked about loyalty and somewhat criticized players leaving before finishing the season and the bowl game. There was rumors and flight records revealed of an upcoming flight from Pullman to Wake Forest so we knew it was coming. We would hope that Dickert would then use social media to give a thank you to the school and fans but instead his first post was him with his family in a private plane saying, "Headed your way Deacs!! See you soon!!!". Then a short video he reposted him getting off the plane and meeting the Wake Forest administration and mascot. Then a photo with his family in what looks like the Wake Forest indoor practice facility. Then he has an interview where he talks about the lack of nearby recruits available and the lack of financial support at WSU. After all of that, then he posts a thank you message to WSU. It's almost a case study of what not to do when leaving a place. If he would have sent the thank you message to WSU on his social media first and/or given a short video that he thanked WSU for the opportunity then him leaving wouldn't have been as hurtful.
@@HikingPNW Bruh. He literally followed the EXACT Jonathan “Snake” Smith exit playbook from last year. I honestly wonder if Smith walked him through the process.
@@ShaneConQuesoDid his team shirts end up at the thrift store, too?
@@SurfCityBill nah. Smith had his exit planned out 5 weeks ahead. I honestly think Dickert may have stayed if he didn’t see his roster was about to implode. So to answer your question, No. I don’t think Dickert had time to donate or pack his shit. Which is probably better so the Cougs faithful can have a bonfire 🔥
Oregon State experienced a similar situation last year. They face uncertainty, just like Washington State does. Things like this also indicate that a certain amount of these non-playoff bowls will have to cease to exist in the not-to-distant future. Ever since the playoff was implemented 10 years ago, players and coaches alike have made it very clear that they do not care about such games. These games have turned into a big waste of time and money and at some point, enough people will catch on to that.
Dickert is a snake. The way he left is the terrible part. Not that he left.
So, he left a program without a power conference and without a full schedule for a P4 program that will pay more and has a more stable future.
How long would it have been before WSU decided to cut his salary because they could no longer afford it? Considering that OSU was only paying their coach 1.2 million and Dickert was earning 2.7 million, I'm guessing not long.
Expecting a coach to stay at a dying program is foolish.
@@richardreed6249 Richard, ur missing the point bud. Nobody is saying he can’t leave for more money. It’s the timing and the two-faceness of it that was classless.
@niallplunkett6056 I understand that, but I also know it is a business and you will never have a coach come out in week six and say " I'm looking at other job offers "
I don't care how up front and honorable that coach is. Trying to hold someone to a standard that no one could meet is silly.
@ what’s silly is criticizing players for not sticking around til the end of the season, then doing the exact same thing. Dickert is classless end of story. Wake forest can have his bum ass, he doesn’t even call the plays, and when he does we lose to a 3-9 Wyoming on senior night.
If this system stays the same with NIL then this will keep happening at OSU & WSU whenever they have a successful year. Have and 8-10 win season then implode and repeat over and over.
Basically, there will be 50 super league teams and everyone else. The 130+ teams in the FBS is no longer a workable format.
On the bright side could you talk about Maalik Murphy joining the Beavs? I think this gives the team potential to make a bowl game next year!
People are glossing over the fact that the package mateer is accepting at Oklahoma is for more than Dickery got paid this year
Jake Dickert, Coach cut and run. The Syracuse game was a good bowl match-up. Congratulation Wake Forest. You've hired Coach not-sticking-around.
College football is dying, and it's dragging the rest of college athletics down the tubes with it. The second the NFL decides enough is enough of drafting unprepared players and establishing their own version of the G league is when college football will officially die.
This is the future not only for OSU/WSU but for all of the "not P4" programs. Perpetual destruction on a yearly basis, as rosters get pulled apart by the P4 programs, any promising coaches get poached, and all progress in moving forward/rebuilding is lost over and over again.
College football (except for the SEC and B1G maybe) is over.
After their last 4 games of the season you could see the coaching staff was gone! Head coach , arbuckle, the other offense coaches play calling was horrible! Should never fired the defense coach! Be wasnt the fault of the team the offense sucked the last 4 games! No running game etc.etc
Hire the montana state coach he is 46 and 9 ! Making 400,000 makebe in bozeman? Give him 3 million and look out! He is a 10 times a better than jake! Look where he been as a coach those teams records and his experience as a head coach! Jimmy rogers at south dakota state 2nd pick. Winners both coaches.
Yes. It’s not that he left. It’s the way he left. Talks about loyalty and finishing the football season at practice a few weeks ago. Where was the loyalty Coach? I get it, money talks. But if it talks, don’t say shit like that when you plan on taking it
His previous speech about the portal was, "i get if you want to pursue other opportunities, but at least finish the season! Why wouldn't you finish?!" Proceeds to ditch his team 9 days before their bowl game.
Say what you will about Dickert, but that was a low-integrity move.
The fact that he left before the bowl game shows that he has no honor. The positive is that he was a mediocre coach.
Coaches rarely stick around after they announce they're leaving. The school's administration and athletic director don't want them there anymore. Plus, the coach has to move on to recruit his own players and to pursue transfers from the portal during the window. It may suck, but it's just a fact of the times. Personal attacks and criticisms may make the fan base feel better, but it's just business.
Coach Jake Dickert is a two face!!! .......Everybody wants our WSU, qb across the nation! Can't these other schools' universities find their own qb!!! 😅 WSU Cougs has always been a #1 school of qb over many years!!!!
College football , they have a problem & I believe eventually they will loose fan base . It’s a sad situation.
QB hurts a lot, but Dickert seems like nothing special as a coach. Having him leave is a positive imo, it's the optics of it all (last second move to what might be the toughest job in P4 football) thay hurt so much.
Not sure it was an option, but OrSt and Wazzu squeezing into the Big XII / ACC by willingly taking reduced shares seems like it should have been the play, using the "war chest" to keep them afloat through that period.
There wouldn’t of been a war chest if the conference dissolved I’m pretty sure
Makes it really easy to disengage with college football. The fatigue of caring has faded, we’re not going to solve anything with the woke nerds running everything either.
i don't think you know what "woke" means.
@@ShaneConQueso go look at the Board of Regence at WSU and tell me which of those goofy looking people is gonna save WSU from complete failure? It’s a DEI crew that already put us in this situation with their awful decision making.
What bothers me is he didn't leave for a better situation. He left just to get out of Pullman. He belongs in Wake Forest. I hope the new coach has WSU roots! We have to get Lucky in the next pick, the job is a stepping stone not a destination.
Any reasonable and honest comparison supports that WF is definitely a better situation. Spencer laid it out pretty well. Even though the ACC has its problems, WF will always have more resources for coaches and players and better recruiting areas. Any other conclusion is delusional.
Convert to Arena Football - would only require half the # of players and coaches.
Bobby Hauck. Forget UNLV. Look at the rest of his record.
WSU to UI = 7 miles
All OSU and WSU essentially are now are farm clubs for the P4. College Football is ruined for the foreseeable future. It shouldn't even be affiliated with colleges since it's literally a play-for-pay league. Just make it an Official NFL minor league. These players have no accountability or loyalty to any school/brand. I'm curious the ones who do eventually play on Sunday, what college will they even identify with as many will go through two or three different colleges on their way. The sports has been completely ruined by money. NIL needs to get figured out.
As a Beaver Fan/alumni, there's zero point in getting invested in the team or excited for any player, because if one of our players who we develop has a good year and gets exposure, well they will naturally be gone and hit the transfer portal, and honestly, who can blame them? They would be foolish not too. There's no incentive to see my players have success either. The reward for their success is they leave? Cool. And how are we supposed to get/keep a quality coach either? How frustrating it must be to recruit and develop guys knowing if they perform they're gonna bounce.
I don't have a problem with the concept of players getting paid, but the players should be locked into contracts the same as pros. We're in an era of perpetual Free Agency. The sad thing is the changes being made are only worsening the problem, because there's no interest in helping/saving smaller schools. It's stacking the decks further against us. How is OSU/WSU supposed to have any pipe-dream of rebuilding/branding and MaYbE hOpeFuLLy oNe DaY getting back into a P4 Conference if we can't string together one or two solid seasons with a roster because turnover is 50 percent?
The whole thing is a joke. We're a couple seasons away from mid-game trades/transfers. The fans in the stands will be crowd-funding transfers at half-time. What a joke. OSU is going through its second dismantling now and honestly I'm not even invested enough to care. I've been a die hard beaver for 20 years and even this season only watched about six games. It's just not that interesting... We were never a Power House School, but at least we had rivalries and it was interesting. Am I supposed to give a f**k or Get Up to Watch the Duck$ drop 60pts on us every September so they can have a warm-up game and we pretend there's any "rivalry?" Rivalries are dead. We could have a better rivalry with Corvallis High School at this point. F**k college football.
It’s business!! 1st world 🌎 issues
He was mediocre at best....never gonna make Wake Forest a power house either...lol
He’s not a great coach but I THOUGHT he was a good man.
Steve Spurrier Jr
Go Cougs
Wake Forest will be Jake's 10th school he has coached at in 18 years. His record at WSU was a dismal 23-20 and that was with the aid of super star quarterbacks of Cam Ward and John Mateer who both gave Dickert the middle finger and left his program. Notable 2024 games include losses to powerhouses of New Mexico, Wyoming and coming in LAST PLACE in the Pac-12 in 2024. Christmas has come early - HE IS GONE!
The NIL situation was going to suck either way. Dickert got a lot of grace because he was a good PR guy, but he was NOT a good coach. The team collapsed in Oct/Nov two years in a row. He lost the locker room. Long term -- IF we make a solid hire -- the situation is likely better. Cougs are pissed because of how he left. The fact that he left doesn't make the situation any worse in the long run.
Also -- Jim Mora is the worst. No thank you.
I'm never going to lose interest in my Ducks. Not just because we've had a special year, but because...I love my Ducks and Denver Broncos more than I love most people.
But interest in the sport as a whole is almost gone. I was a Oregon Ducks and CFB fan a few years ago.
Im just an Oregon Ducks fan now.
Seriously what did ypu expect stop your whining Geez why is it that WSU alway act like when something like this happens to them they are the worse victims loo, what happened to the Huskies last year did you see a their fans crying after losing their whole team . Ok coug fan when another employee offers you more money for a better job I like to see you refuse the offer .
Cougar are never making the college playoff because they play highschool teams
Take an English class