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I honestly think that he was searching for something more...but THIS is very very interesting that may or not have needed Xion, I'm not sure how but it dose...in some way.
Kh dark road implies that Xehanort has some connection to the player character from union X (or at least somehow to the player's memories). The player character knows skuld, so it's only natural that apprentice Xehanort took interest in her because he wanted to know who this girl was and how she is connected to his memories/dreams.
maybe subconsciously... if I'm not wrong, in that time, as apprentice, he didn't had his memories as Xehanort, right? if was the case, he would actually know who she was
It’s stated somewhere that ansem the wise brought her to destiny islands because he knew she would find the key bearer because she is a princess of heart.
I was disappointed how Kairi was treated in Kingdom Hearts III. She deserved better! In Melody of Memory, I really want Kairi to show us how strong she's become! She's no longer the damsel in distress, she's gonna fight back, stand up for herself, and save the boy she loves! C'mon Nomura! Give our girl the spotlight this time!
That is my greatest hope for this game, I think she got shafted a bit in KH3. I think she has so much potential as a character, & you'd imagine the first princess of heart to wield a keyblade might have some special powers we haven't seen yet. I want to see her kick someone's ass ^^
Hopefully melody of memories will have a lot of answers instead of questions about kairis past and the experiments. It would be cool to see a game about playing as everyone to save sora
I’m guessing you’ve never played the games 🤣 that’s s joke, but I mean like it wouldn’t be KH if they didn’t leave us hanging with like 42 questions per game hahaha.
Dreamcast Dazia I mean if you’ve been paying attention throughout the games there are answers maybe not the ones you want, but I mean they know what they are doing lol
Yeah but some people are complaining about the game being a rhythm game, I'm still excited and really happy because it's a Kairi game and kh music is great
Just for people who are still confused with the story of kingdom hearts here is the kingdom hearts series so far in chronological order 1. Kingdom hearts union x back cover 2. Kingdom hearts unchanied x/union x (the mobile games 3. Kingdom hearts dark road 4. Kingdom hearts birth by sleep 5. Kingdom hearts (kingdom hearts 1) 6. Kingdom hearts re chain of memorys and kingdom hearts 358/2 days (these two games take place at the same time) 7. Kingdom hearts 2 8. Kingdom hearts re coded 9. Kingdom hearts dream drop distance 10. Kingdom hearts birth by sleep 0.2 a fragmentary passage (the game sort of takes place after birth by sleep but Micky is telling the story of what happened so technically this takes place after dream drop distance 11. Kingdom hearts 3 12. Kingdom hearts 3 remind 13. Kingdom hearts melody of memory (I think) This is the complete story of kingdom hearts so far in chronological order (in storyline order)
Dude, you're so dedicated to kingdom hearts and always come up with good content and theories, it's a crime that you don't get more views or subscribers, keep up the good work, I've been watching you for almost 2 years now.
@Viktor Coka I also want sora to have a backstory, we don't know so much about sora's past, he needs something like that, it can help for his character development.
Viktor Coka literally the same thing happened to me I enjoyed FF7R so much I went and played the original and FF8 and it’s just making relive the feels of meeting those characters in KH for the first time all those years ago
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 good point! They have never explained why Xion has black hair! Apparently the person designing her made her hair black because he likes black hair but I do hope we get somthing story related to it
I highly believe that this theory is correct. Implying the name, Seeker of darkness I believe xehanort was actually looking for the orgins of the original darkness. As confirmed by the Master of Masters, many key blade wars had already been fought. The very master who beckon vanitas would probably want to know the how far back vanitas came from. When did he choose ventus and why? And could that darkness lead him to the lost master?
@@mariabasile9961 it means master xehanort was not suprised luxu was looking for the box. That the darkness, Ansem SOD was actually seeking could subconsciously be vanitas. Apprentice xehanort forgot everything when he was at radiant garden. He had to relearn the laws of the world line and time. He used subject x, kiari and himself to do so. When subject x went missing this could be what sent him on his way to the past. If his heart sought out its younger self what would be the chances it could track down Master of Master or vanitas? Remember the his heart was cast back in time over 60 years. This means it could have interacted with vanitas in bbs and others who may have visited that timeline between the time he escaped destiny island and kh1. In conclusion the experiments conducted made him aware the master of masters could of jumped worldlines. His time as SoD could of been him testing the rules and laws of both sides and how they deal with the worldlines. This could also be why xemnas was aware of the the underling values of 4 organizations members. One who happens to be exist in 2 different worldlines.
In kingdom hearts 2, after you've awoken sora, when you look at the rooms with the sleeping pods, theres one room that you cant access in the back that just says something like "a strange presence prevents me from entering". Its very possible that subject X couldve been in that back room, especially considering the Xehanort reports says Ansem didnt move her until later on.
"so we did what the keyblade did and moved down the list" have you guys realized that sora and kairi get used as tools for the bad guys not just kairi alone the non true masters freed the guardians
Kairi, in the trailer, seems to be telling the hooded figure that his changing her fate is what made her weak, so others like Sora had to suffer. So it sounds like she's blaming him for her being weak. Did he put a lock on her powers, perhaps?
I'm interested in how the machine ended up in Radiant Garden/Hallow Bastion since they were originally in Daybreak Town and we know that Daybreak Town pretty much turned into Scala Ad Caelum 🤔
Im calling it now, the hooded figure whose "been changing kairis fate" in the trailer will be skuld. With Dark road we got a new character, Urd. The names Skuld, Urd. And Verdandi(not in game yet) are the 3 nord goddesses who control fate. Doesnt seem like a coincidence to me. Nomura even commented about having all 3 of those names in the game at some point. If skuld is X, and kairi and her were both experimented on, that would give them another connection to the events of the trailer. Maybe skuld saved her. Or is hiding insode kairis heart (we know this game is ansem the wise going theough kairis heart to find sora). So....maybe they find skuld(or whoever is subject X) in kairis heart. Maybe thatd why X dissappeared and noone could find her....
Based on what we know so far it seems to me like Xehanort maybe trying to find a way to bring back his friends who died without committing the same taboo Sora did by using the power of waking
Kinda random but remember in KH1 when sora was in hollow bastion & he saw the vision of kairi & her grandma talking. I wonder if they lived in that mansion or something. First I thought it was ansem the wise’s castle but its not because the castle was close to the town whereas the hollow bastion castle was away from the town (shown in KH2).
yeah she was guiding him to her past you know kairi is very simillar to ven and roxas even though her memories were erased its been etched in her heart the question is why they would trigger now unless that man is part of her past
7:17 lol this scene always bothered me, why do ienzo return as a child? And suddenly become a adult again? , did he travel in time or something? Lol he went to an different world that time flows faster like we saw in dark road? Maybe he was being experimented, what if he's Brain? Sent to the past lol
I think that he was probably struck down by Apprentice Xehanort when he was younger (the scene at 7:17) and after becoming a nobody, probably aged between then towards CoM. If that is the case, than nobodies can age and once defeated, will return as a somebody but as that age they were as a nobody. Though that conflicts with Terranort as Ansem and Xemnas are both much older than Terra and returned as Terranort and not Apprentice Xehanort.
@@yangustavo2177 I really think this is when they become heartless/nobody Xehanort even strikes Braig, and "extract" his heart in this scene... and call himself "Ansem" there's two scenes showing them after been restored... one with Braig and YX talking (and we can see everyone in the floor.... Lea, Isa, Dilan, Ienzo already older, etc)... and the second one, when Lea wakes... only Isa and Braig are missing
When you think about it was Apprentice Xehanort/Ansem that planned everything in the series not Mater Xehanort himself. Think about it, Apprentice Xehanort was the one who split himself up into an Heartless that would gather the princess of heart and a Nobody that would create the Organisation, Master Xehanort wasn't even a part of the original plan, bringing back Master Xehanort was a back up plan which Apprentice Xehanort/Ansem also came up with and now we find out that he also tried solving the Mysteries of the Keyblade War and reach Verum Rex. Master Xehanort isn't even the Mastermind of the Xehanort saga, he's the fricking back up plan xD
Dope, it does seem like he was trying to find the Final World or Verum Rex world. If he was studying the heart then he would want to know what happens when someone dies.
the first time i watched 358/2 days(in 2017) i ever thought that xion was someone before that game, but not a nobody, but a little girl who died in some kind of experiments of organisation 13(obs: i didn't played bbs yet) an then, the first time i heard Lea say "the girl" i thought about xion. then i read the secret reports of kh3. the subject x was the "human xion or something" i had a "mind blow time". after that i read the secrets reports of 358 and knew that xion is a replica of naminé, "no. i" but still...
I remember playing kh2 and everything was a mystery and interesting and cool, the roxas intro with those flashback cutscenes, all the rest of it. Now, the story is in a limbo where everyone is immortal and nothing has consequences, because it can all be fixed by magical darkness within darkness time travel. The whole point of kh3 was the final battle and triumph over org 13 and xehanort, and now actually for all we care we could just have young xehanort come and make organisation 13 volume 3...It’s actually just stupid now
then, xehanort needed to specifically use kairi in the 13th clash at the keyblade graveyard. This clash prolly haz tiez with the xperimentacion of kairi. Nomura sure haz a fascination with women figures going missing in kingdom hearts. Some that come to mind are skuld, ava, cough cough aqua, kairi, not gonna bother spelling marluxia's sister.
Interesting interpretation. But I was under the impression that Xehanort was still sending her off to find a keyblade wielder but was warning her about possibly ending up in the Final World due to how the machine works. Which would emphasize Kairi's connection to the Final World.
I still maintain that Subject X is Ava. She’s around the height of a 15 year old girl, she went missing and is still missing as of KH3, and if Braig/Luxu was the one who helped her escape Terrhanort he could’ve done it because he knew who Subject X was before losing her memory and had to make sure she still played her part in the MoM’s grand scheme, lastly, “May your heart be the guiding key.” Also we don’t know what color Ava’s hair is, or what her face looks like yet. Maybe she even looks like Xion (just a random thought). Idk though that’s just speculation, if it isn’t Ava or the more popular theorized Skuld, then maybe we haven’t seen her yet at all, but unlikely.
I know this may seem odd but a memory has recently come back to me. Regarding the secret film for Birth By Sleep. We see Terra, Aqua and Ven approaching the 3 keys in the keyblade graveyard. Kingdom Key, Key of Darkness and the Road To Dawn. We see them approach and each pick a key. We then see a hooded figure approach. My comment refers to the words around the outside. The Chasers, the Lost Masters, and the other phrases. It ends with "It All Started With Xeharnort." We then jump to Birth By Sleep 1 and see the original game. My question - was the original secret movie for what we all assume is Birth By Sleep 1 ACTuALLY Birth By Sleep 2. Because Riku didn't have the Road to Dawn until KH2. Which happened over 10 years after the original. Lost masters could refer to the Foretellers . And 'technically' Sora. The Chasers could refer to the BBS trio.
Considering that Xehanort has knowledge of the events of Khux, is it possible that by recreating the machine, his goal was to reach or atleast learns more about that time?
I feel like if the theory is true that the girl with black hair is indeed skuld, i could imagine that ansem wanted to recreat the world of UX too maybe understand what happened there.
I've been wondering if xehanort entire plan was to become the villain in some kind of rigged game where he actually intended to lose at the eennndd in order for the "light" to win and unlock kingdom hearts. Since he had visions of the keyblade war, he may have thought it was the best way to either complete the protagonists mission or the MoM's. I'm not entirely sure if they're the same or not.
Honestly, I don’t know how to feel about all this! I like the theory but it’s just so much to process that I can’t even begin to have an opinion of my own. Everything in your video makes sense though
What if Aqua Spell was actually bringing her to Riku. Knowing Tera had Riku say the same oath he did when he was at Destiny Island at BBS? And yes i know Ventus was inside of Sora, so the Spell could of brought her to both Sora and Riku because of the Events that were to unfold. Maybe Kari needed 2 protectors one who walked in the darkness and one who walks in the light Just a theory hope it made sense. Also HMK keep up the good work love hearing your KH theories.
Something I thought about for the ending of KH Remind it would personally be odd to see The World Ends With You group in high definition more than DDD.
I honestly think the Shibuya in Re:Mind isn't TWEWY's Shibuya (and even Nomura said so) and when I said isn't TWEWY shibuya, i meant the TWEWY characters aren't gonna appear in it. Why? Because the world is too hyper-realistic and even Sora's model is changed to one that matches more with the average modern Final Fantasy games: darker and more muted color schemes, more realistic textures, more detailed facial features such as fuller lips and hair with more visible individual strands. Aka his model is more realistic, and the TWEWY characters are anything but, if anything, they're some of the more cartoony-looking Square Enix's characters that would look horrendously out of place with the world's near-photorealistic shader. It's more likely that Verum Rex is also just set in Shibuya, just not TWEWY's Shibuya.
what if kairi isn’t meeting with the MoM at ALL? what if, really, she’s meeting with luxu, while he is retrieiving the lost masters. MoM could be the story of the lost year, and she could be angry with him because Kairi is ACTUALLY Ava, and gets her MEMORY back while in the Final World. Kairi being Ava would explain why luxu/Xigbar plays this game, because he is orchestrating the return of the master.
That would be amazing if kairi was ava reincarnated or something like that because ava does act like and remind me of so much of kairi. That would explain a lot of things too. Like where ava is and stuff. But maybe it's just wishful thinking.😅😅😅
Also, Luxu exists (as being transferring vessels. just because one inhabits the body of another, does NOT remove the memories contained within that vessel (Namine affirms this to Sora)). As such, Luxu would not only have his own memories but the memories of the original being, before taking over the new vessel. Thereby, Luxu isn't JUST Luxu but holds ALL the memories of his prior hosts. Thus IS all those beings (with a Luxu twist (We ACTUALLY see this happen WITHIN Sora HIMSELF, taking on aspects and mannerisms of Ventus(since Sora held Ven heart inside him, leaving an "imprint" (AND the Dual-Wield gauge Forms are a DIRECT influence from Roxas as a wholly separate being))))
As such, I actually believe (and could explain WHERE she is located), that Skuld resides within Kairi!! Seriously, THINK about it... WHY when Sora split, do we EVENTUALLY get Xion... WITH BLACK HAIR!?!? NEITHER, Sora, Kairi, NOR Ventus HAS Black hair; Roxas = Ventus/Sora (since Ven's heart STILL isn't whole, he and Sora share the same nobody (hence WHY Roxas LOOKS like Ven but is ACTUALLY Sora)); Namine = Kairi (has the blonde hair because Namine (a memory witch) is DIRECTLY connected to Sora/Kairi. And since Roxas is blond, and Namine is connected to Roxas through Sora/Kair, Namine is blond like Ven also); XION = SKULD (because (in this theory) Skuld resides within Kairi when Kairis's heart falls into Soras, creating Xion (as Skuld IS strong enough, unlike Ventus)) (YES, I AM aware Org.XIII "created" Xion from an empty vessel and Soras memories. BUT because Sora held Kairis's heart during the extraction process (and their hearts had ALREADY started merging (as Roxas/Sora had)), Skuld, being part of Kairis's heart, enters Soras memories, is extracted by Org.XIII and put into a vessel, No. I) Skuld MUST reside within Kairi!! And THIS is WHY Kairi is SOOO pure of Light. She is holding a freaking Dandelion from the Age of Fairytales within, just as Sora had with Ven!!! (little aside to go along with this train of thought, Riku could be holding Brain xD) I know it's a lot to consider. It's just ALWAYS bugged me Xion "comes" from Sora, but looks like NEITHER of the Hearts he held...
Can you do kingdom hearts lore for the people who don’t really want to dig deep into the games story outside of the cutscenes? Or also for the people that just may need a touch up. It’s really difficult to find anything like that, and you have a lot of kingdom hearts knowledge. Also if it would be easier to do it in a series that would be cool too. Hope you take it into consideration, thank you.
It's impossible the explain because the everything is so tangled that it can't be simplified without omitting significant chunks of lore. The best you're going to get is the Memory Archives.
I feel like everyone forgets this one thing: Aqua’s charm was supposed to send Kairi somewhere that someone could protect her, presumably that someone being a Keyblade wielder. Xehanort’s experiment was also meant to send Kairi to a Keyblade wielder. Everyone knows that. But what I see people forgetting is that RIKU was the only Keyblade wielder on Destiny Islands at that time. Sora has no Keyblade and no future Keyblade at this point, because Aqua held off giving it to him. Kairi’s heart was supposed to ‘resonate’ with RIKU’S, not Sora’s. This may hint at even more Riku plot importance. RIKU is what Aqua’s charm was attracted to. RIKU is where Xehanort’s experiments led Kairi. RIKU is the turning point in Kingdom Hearts lore. RIKU is the original Keyblade wielder of Destiny Islands. Sora’s Keyblade only chose him in the split second that Riku was swallowed by darkness. Sora got a Keyblade by chance, not destiny. When you think of it that way, Kairi should have crushed on Riku, not Sora, because Riku and Kairi’s hearts ‘resonate’ better with each other than Kairi and Sora’s. I don’t mean to offend any Kaisora supporters with this analysis, this is just what I have noticed in Kingdom Hearts lore.
Whilst this makes sense without context, you are forgetting that everything that has transpired in the KH series thus far was fated to happen due to the book of prophecy. This takes this whole Riku and Kairi's hearts resonating better making it void. The fact that Sora was granted the keyblade, whilst not intentional was fated to happen regardless because of the existence of that tomb. Destiny played its part regardless just not in the way you thought of originally. Above that you also seem to overlook the fact at this time Vens heart resided within Sora. For all we know Kairis heart could have been resonating with Sora through Ven himself which would actually make more sense than her heart resonating with Riku due to the fact Aqua was the individual who placed the Charm on her in the first place.
I have a theory. So what if the hooded figure is actually Subject X and she messes with kairi’s fate when apprentice Xehanort experiments on her (kairi). Just a thought there may be a flaw that I have forgotten about
Hmm was he looking for daybreak town? Or at least what it was durring union cross. its beyond light and dark, it was all the worlds prior to the war. Skuld is from there, so she has memories of it. hmm but if thats the case, why Kairi...Hmm he was looking for the heart of the worlds. Hehe maybe he wanted to remake the worlds as they once was...Na that cant be...Right?
Remember, in bbs, why was kairi lurking in radiant garden? I believe that seen and the new one in melody will match up. There isnt much let that is not hidden with so much lore now. Come on!
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they confirm in a report or cut scene that "Xehanort" was experimenting on subject X to try recovering his memories.
If Sora learned that Kairi was once a subject for Apprentice Xehanort's experiments and a waypoint to who is now known as the key bearer, what would he think of her by then?
hi HMK i know this is not a kingdom hearts x video but I just found this out "the Clock Tower of Daybreak Town is visible during the final fight with Master Xehanort while underwater" what are you thoughts on it and if you already made a video on can you link for me?
Wait, I'm confused about something and it may be stupid but, isn't Skuld supposed to be with Ephemer and the player from KHux ? Like at the end of Union Cross they both come to you and welcome you in this strange white world (the one I think Ava was talking about to keep her keyblade wielders out of the Keyblade War). So if she's in that dimension, how could she have used the machine to get to the era of apprentice Xehanort ?
Honestly i feel like this franchise went a path that they cant fix anymore. And im not talking about the mobile games (and a stupid rythm game) which still make a lot of ppl angry, But rather the story. I feel like the story is too messy and wont feel complete/satisfying ever.
While most clues of Subject X's identity points to being Skuld, I don't remember where it was confirmed she had dark/black hair. Where was that source from?
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I honestly think that he was searching for something more...but THIS is very very interesting that may or not have needed Xion, I'm not sure how but it dose...in some way.
What is this song playing so nice
Kh dark road implies that Xehanort has some connection to the player character from union X (or at least somehow to the player's memories). The player character knows skuld, so it's only natural that apprentice Xehanort took interest in her because he wanted to know who this girl was and how she is connected to his memories/dreams.
maybe subconsciously... if I'm not wrong, in that time, as apprentice, he didn't had his memories as Xehanort, right?
if was the case, he would actually know who she was
I like the idea that Xehanort thought Kairi would lead him to was Skuld, but Aqua’s charm got in the way and sent Kairi to Destiny Islands instead
It’s stated somewhere that ansem the wise brought her to destiny islands because he knew she would find the key bearer because she is a princess of heart.
I was disappointed how Kairi was treated in Kingdom Hearts III. She deserved better! In Melody of Memory, I really want Kairi to show us how strong she's become! She's no longer the damsel in distress, she's gonna fight back, stand up for herself, and save the boy she loves! C'mon Nomura! Give our girl the spotlight this time!
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Well in remind she was a badass
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That is my greatest hope for this game, I think she got shafted a bit in KH3. I think she has so much potential as a character, & you'd imagine the first princess of heart to wield a keyblade might have some special powers we haven't seen yet. I want to see her kick someone's ass ^^
@@KyrieChii she dose teleport to her keyblade a lot and she amazing in the air
I couldn't listen to what you had to say because the music is so good...
Xenoblade ost is too godlike
what is the song though? sorry if I asked
@@thn4296 xenoblade agniratha day theme
Hopefully melody of memories will have a lot of answers instead of questions about kairis past and the experiments. It would be cool to see a game about playing as everyone to save sora
I'm hoping for this too... lately, most KH games give more questions than answers ^^'
I’m guessing you’ve never played the games 🤣 that’s s joke, but I mean like it wouldn’t be KH if they didn’t leave us hanging with like 42 questions per game hahaha.
@@justsomeguy4422 Thats a bad joke. Eventually we will need answers nit just questions
Dreamcast Dazia I mean if you’ve been paying attention throughout the games there are answers maybe not the ones you want, but I mean they know what they are doing lol
@@justsomeguy4422 What I mean is a well rounded conclusion. Closure. KH3 didn't close properly xd Just left hella people more confused
I may sound stupid saying this and will get Judge but I feel like this game is wrapped around Kairi’s story
It's not stupid. That's what Melody of Memory -will- be about: Kairi.
Erika Badillo oh well thank you
This might actually make sense.
Yeah but some people are complaining about the game being a rhythm game, I'm still excited and really happy because it's a Kairi game and kh music is great
The only good thing to come out of those experiments is that she got to meet and fall in love with Sora.
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yes and she will find him
Nicholas Bloom definitely
@@zacharybronfman4001 sora and kairi were always pawns to xehanort
Nicholas Bloom everyone was a pawn to Xehanort
Every time I hear "Apprentice Xehanort" my brain automatically hears "A Princess Xehanort" lmfao
At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that were a character too tbh
Love how there’s Xenoblade music jn this video
Just for people who are still confused with the story of kingdom hearts here is the kingdom hearts series so far in chronological order
1. Kingdom hearts union x back cover
2. Kingdom hearts unchanied x/union x (the mobile games
3. Kingdom hearts dark road
4. Kingdom hearts birth by sleep
5. Kingdom hearts (kingdom hearts 1)
6. Kingdom hearts re chain of memorys and kingdom hearts 358/2 days (these two games take place at the same time)
7. Kingdom hearts 2
8. Kingdom hearts re coded
9. Kingdom hearts dream drop distance
10. Kingdom hearts birth by sleep 0.2 a fragmentary passage (the game sort of takes place after birth by sleep but Micky is telling the story of what happened so technically this takes place after dream drop distance
11. Kingdom hearts 3
12. Kingdom hearts 3 remind
13. Kingdom hearts melody of memory (I think)
This is the complete story of kingdom hearts so far in chronological order (in storyline order)
Ahh Agniritha...such an underatted track.
Too right.
Colleges should offer a PhD in Kingdom Hearts
I’m ready to see little sweetest Kairi’s backstory of how she end up in Destiny Island.
Dude, you're so dedicated to kingdom hearts and always come up with good content and theories, it's a crime that you don't get more views or subscribers, keep up the good work, I've been watching you for almost 2 years now.
Kairi’s backstory is gonna be wild.
@Viktor Coka I also want sora to have a backstory, we don't know so much about sora's past, he needs something like that, it can help for his character development.
Agreed
Viktor Coka turns out Kairi is sora in her timeline, sora is riku and riku is still just a dream eater. Lol jk jk unless? 🤣
Orrrrrr Yozora is riku cause he’s looking for sora... bum bum bummmmmm. I mean jk but like 🤯 dang multiverse timeline
Viktor Coka literally the same thing happened to me I enjoyed FF7R so much I went and played the original and FF8 and it’s just making relive the feels of meeting those characters in KH for the first time all those years ago
I wonder if Skuld is Ventus'ing out in Kairi's heart
Oh I hope so and that would explain the way xion looks just like Ventus to Roxas
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 Umm, that was already explained as being because of Roxas and Sora's connection to Ven.
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 good point! They have never explained why Xion has black hair! Apparently the person designing her made her hair black because he likes black hair but I do hope we get somthing story related to it
I highly believe that this theory is correct. Implying the name, Seeker of darkness I believe xehanort was actually looking for the orgins of the original darkness. As confirmed by the Master of Masters, many key blade wars had already been fought. The very master who beckon vanitas would probably want to know the how far back vanitas came from. When did he choose ventus and why? And could that darkness lead him to the lost master?
And what does it have to do with that coffin like box?
@@mariabasile9961 it means master xehanort was not suprised luxu was looking for the box. That the darkness, Ansem SOD was actually seeking could subconsciously be vanitas.
Apprentice xehanort forgot everything when he was at radiant garden. He had to relearn the laws of the world line and time. He used subject x, kiari and himself to do so.
When subject x went missing this could be what sent him on his way to the past. If his heart sought out its younger self what would be the chances it could track down Master of Master or vanitas? Remember the his heart was cast back in time over 60 years. This means it could have interacted with vanitas in bbs and others who may have visited that timeline between the time he escaped destiny island and kh1.
In conclusion the experiments conducted made him aware the master of masters could of jumped worldlines. His time as SoD could of been him testing the rules and laws of both sides and how they deal with the worldlines. This could also be why xemnas was aware of the the underling values of 4 organizations members. One who happens to be exist in 2 different worldlines.
I think Kairi's complete backstory will blow our minds! I can't wait! The Hype is real!
In kingdom hearts 2, after you've awoken sora, when you look at the rooms with the sleeping pods, theres one room that you cant access in the back that just says something like "a strange presence prevents me from entering". Its very possible that subject X couldve been in that back room, especially considering the Xehanort reports says Ansem didnt move her until later on.
In case of failure break the princes .... Kinda thing huh?
I keep getting distracted by the xenoblade music, mmm perfect choice
"so we did what the keyblade did and moved down the list" have you guys realized that sora and kairi get used as tools for the bad guys not just kairi alone the non true masters freed the guardians
That still frame of Apprentice Xehanort reaching to grab Kairi is menacing as fuck.
"Kingdom Hearts: The Future Beyond" by HMK. Has a nice ring to it.
I think Verum Rex’s world is a Post- Light vs Dark landscape where it all just exists together & that’s what Xehanort wanted to see and observe
I think that Apprentice Xehanort was looking for another Universe beyond Light and Darkness like either the Final world or Verium Rex.
I just want our love boy Xigbar became a full villain, the focus, because DAMN I love him
i really really think that "no. i" is subject x's something (the same way roxas is sora's something and riku-replica is rikus's something)
I definitely agree. The series is about to go into a deeper layer then light/darkness. My bet is Reality vs Imagination?
yes the xehanort saga was only phase 1 i have a feeling this new phase will be bigger and darker plus kairi will find sora
I want Kairi to have some untapped power to be revealed! Like she can create heartless or something put of thin air from these experiments.
Or mess with memories or create illusions just like namine (but i don't think kairi has magical hidden powers, no hate)
Kairi, in the trailer, seems to be telling the hooded figure that his changing her fate is what made her weak, so others like Sora had to suffer. So it sounds like she's blaming him for her being weak. Did he put a lock on her powers, perhaps?
I gotta say HMK you're theories are pretty convincing and it's curious to see how things will play out.
I'm interested in how the machine ended up in Radiant Garden/Hallow Bastion since they were originally in Daybreak Town and we know that Daybreak Town pretty much turned into Scala Ad Caelum 🤔
Im calling it now, the hooded figure whose "been changing kairis fate" in the trailer will be skuld. With Dark road we got a new character, Urd. The names Skuld, Urd. And Verdandi(not in game yet) are the 3 nord goddesses who control fate. Doesnt seem like a coincidence to me. Nomura even commented about having all 3 of those names in the game at some point. If skuld is X, and kairi and her were both experimented on, that would give them another connection to the events of the trailer. Maybe skuld saved her. Or is hiding insode kairis heart (we know this game is ansem the wise going theough kairis heart to find sora). So....maybe they find skuld(or whoever is subject X) in kairis heart. Maybe thatd why X dissappeared and noone could find her....
Based on what we know so far it seems to me like Xehanort maybe trying to find a way to bring back his friends who died without committing the same taboo Sora did by using the power of waking
Kinda random but remember in KH1 when sora was in hollow bastion & he saw the vision of kairi & her grandma talking. I wonder if they lived in that mansion or something. First I thought it was ansem the wise’s castle but its not because the castle was close to the town whereas the hollow bastion castle was away from the town (shown in KH2).
yeah she was guiding him to her past you know kairi is very simillar to ven and roxas even though her memories were erased its been etched in her heart the question is why they would trigger now unless that man is part of her past
7:17 lol this scene always bothered me, why do ienzo return as a child? And suddenly become a adult again? , did he travel in time or something? Lol he went to an different world that time flows faster like we saw in dark road? Maybe he was being experimented, what if he's Brain? Sent to the past lol
I think that he was probably struck down by Apprentice Xehanort when he was younger (the scene at 7:17) and after becoming a nobody, probably aged between then towards CoM.
If that is the case, than nobodies can age and once defeated, will return as a somebody but as that age they were as a nobody.
Though that conflicts with Terranort as Ansem and Xemnas are both much older than Terra and returned as Terranort and not Apprentice Xehanort.
isn't that scene from when they become heartless/nobodies?
@@Ronin-errante nope, it's when they become whole again as far I know
@@yangustavo2177 I really think this is when they become heartless/nobody
Xehanort even strikes Braig, and "extract" his heart in this scene...
and call himself "Ansem"
there's two scenes showing them after been restored... one with Braig and YX talking (and we can see everyone in the floor.... Lea, Isa, Dilan, Ienzo already older, etc)... and the second one, when Lea wakes... only Isa and Braig are missing
also, Even and Ienzo bodies are fading ^^'
Got agnirnatha day and night playing in the background so good.
When you think about it was Apprentice Xehanort/Ansem that planned everything in the series not Mater Xehanort himself. Think about it, Apprentice Xehanort was the one who split himself up into an Heartless that would gather the princess of heart and a Nobody that would create the Organisation, Master Xehanort wasn't even a part of the original plan, bringing back Master Xehanort was a back up plan which Apprentice Xehanort/Ansem also came up with and now we find out that he also tried solving the Mysteries of the Keyblade War and reach Verum Rex. Master Xehanort isn't even the Mastermind of the Xehanort saga, he's the fricking back up plan xD
My dude this was exactly my idea I posted on one of your videos. I commented about the reports were linked to this game that's coming out.
Dope, it does seem like he was trying to find the Final World or Verum Rex world. If he was studying the heart then he would want to know what happens when someone dies.
the first time i watched 358/2 days(in 2017) i ever thought that xion was someone before that game, but not a nobody, but a little girl who died in some kind of experiments of organisation 13(obs: i didn't played bbs yet) an then, the first time i heard Lea say "the girl" i thought about xion. then i read the secret reports of kh3. the subject x was the "human xion or something"
i had a "mind blow time". after that i read the secrets reports of 358 and knew that xion is a replica of naminé, "no. i" but still...
I remember playing kh2 and everything was a mystery and interesting and cool, the roxas intro with those flashback cutscenes, all the rest of it. Now, the story is in a limbo where everyone is immortal and nothing has consequences, because it can all be fixed by magical darkness within darkness time travel. The whole point of kh3 was the final battle and triumph over org 13 and xehanort, and now actually for all we care we could just have young xehanort come and make organisation 13 volume 3...It’s actually just stupid now
There’s for sure a deep connection between Kairi and Skuld.
then, xehanort needed to specifically use kairi in the 13th clash at the keyblade graveyard. This clash prolly haz tiez with the xperimentacion of kairi. Nomura sure haz a fascination with women figures going missing in kingdom hearts. Some that come to mind are skuld, ava, cough cough aqua, kairi, not gonna bother spelling marluxia's sister.
Interesting interpretation. But I was under the impression that Xehanort was still sending her off to find a keyblade wielder but was warning her about possibly ending up in the Final World due to how the machine works. Which would emphasize Kairi's connection to the Final World.
I predict that the true name of master of masters is going to be close to Satan or Lucifer.
The master of Xehanort is now called Odin ... so it may be possible. I think it is at least possible that the MoM was inspired by Lucifer.
Thegamerjoint isnt even uploading, you're keeping me up to date with all my KH news and are staying with it. You should have more subs keep it up
I still maintain that Subject X is Ava. She’s around the height of a 15 year old girl, she went missing and is still missing as of KH3, and if Braig/Luxu was the one who helped her escape Terrhanort he could’ve done it because he knew who Subject X was before losing her memory and had to make sure she still played her part in the MoM’s grand scheme, lastly, “May your heart be the guiding key.” Also we don’t know what color Ava’s hair is, or what her face looks like yet. Maybe she even looks like Xion (just a random thought).
Idk though that’s just speculation, if it isn’t Ava or the more popular theorized Skuld, then maybe we haven’t seen her yet at all, but unlikely.
Great analysis 👌
He is referring to the key Bearer as Sora cuz he is the key bearer of light
Apprentice Xehanort didn't even know that Sora existed when he wrote that
I know this may seem odd but a memory has recently come back to me. Regarding the secret film for Birth By Sleep. We see Terra, Aqua and Ven approaching the 3 keys in the keyblade graveyard. Kingdom Key, Key of Darkness and the Road To Dawn. We see them approach and each pick a key. We then see a hooded figure approach. My comment refers to the words around the outside. The Chasers, the Lost Masters, and the other phrases.
It ends with "It All Started With Xeharnort." We then jump to Birth By Sleep 1 and see the original game. My question - was the original secret movie for what we all assume is Birth By Sleep 1 ACTuALLY Birth By Sleep 2. Because Riku didn't have the Road to Dawn until KH2. Which happened over 10 years after the original.
Lost masters could refer to the Foretellers . And 'technically' Sora.
The Chasers could refer to the BBS trio.
Do you think that Melody of Memory may answer what 'Chasers' are??
Considering that Xehanort has knowledge of the events of Khux, is it possible that by recreating the machine, his goal was to reach or atleast learns more about that time?
I feel like if the theory is true that the girl with black hair is indeed skuld, i could imagine that ansem wanted to recreat the world of UX too maybe understand what happened there.
I've been wondering if xehanort entire plan was to become the villain in some kind of rigged game where he actually intended to lose at the eennndd in order for the "light" to win and unlock kingdom hearts. Since he had visions of the keyblade war, he may have thought it was the best way to either complete the protagonists mission or the MoM's. I'm not entirely sure if they're the same or not.
Honestly, I don’t know how to feel about all this! I like the theory but it’s just so much to process that I can’t even begin to have an opinion of my own. Everything in your video makes sense though
Me: *still no patience to watch the first dark road story on YT*
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Me: *Clicks this video anyway*
Leon Oliveira there’s like, 3 important cutscenes lol it’s not that bad
@@SSlash I saw it afterwards xD Too much grindy gameplay, ugh.
Leon Oliveira oh yeah gameplay wise it’s still kinda yikes from me but not many scenes to get through yet
What if Aqua Spell was actually bringing her to Riku. Knowing Tera had Riku say the same oath he did when he was at Destiny Island at BBS? And yes i know Ventus was inside of Sora, so the Spell could of brought her to both Sora and Riku because of the Events that were to unfold. Maybe Kari needed 2 protectors one who walked in the darkness and one who walks in the light
Just a theory hope it made sense. Also HMK keep up the good work love hearing your KH theories.
I don't think that's likely because Aqua was already losing trust in Terra.
I guess we have to wait and see what the light and darkness equivalent is in the Vernum rex world 🤔
Something I thought about for the ending of KH Remind it would personally be odd to see The World Ends With You group in high definition more than DDD.
I honestly think the Shibuya in Re:Mind isn't TWEWY's Shibuya (and even Nomura said so) and when I said isn't TWEWY shibuya, i meant the TWEWY characters aren't gonna appear in it. Why? Because the world is too hyper-realistic and even Sora's model is changed to one that matches more with the average modern Final Fantasy games: darker and more muted color schemes, more realistic textures, more detailed facial features such as fuller lips and hair with more visible individual strands. Aka his model is more realistic, and the TWEWY characters are anything but, if anything, they're some of the more cartoony-looking Square Enix's characters that would look horrendously out of place with the world's near-photorealistic shader. It's more likely that Verum Rex is also just set in Shibuya, just not TWEWY's Shibuya.
Does anyone else remember the creator group hmk and thegamersjoint were part of?
what if kairi isn’t meeting with the MoM at ALL? what if, really, she’s meeting with luxu, while he is retrieiving the lost masters. MoM could be the story of the lost year, and she could be angry with him because Kairi is ACTUALLY Ava, and gets her MEMORY back while in the Final World.
Kairi being Ava would explain why luxu/Xigbar plays this game, because he is orchestrating the return of the master.
That would be amazing if kairi was ava reincarnated or something like that because ava does act like and remind me of so much of kairi. That would explain a lot of things too. Like where ava is and stuff.
But maybe it's just wishful thinking.😅😅😅
@2:28 Erm, Ventus/Roxas/Sora would ALL beg to differ xD
Also, Luxu exists (as being transferring vessels. just because one inhabits the body of another, does NOT remove the memories contained within that vessel (Namine affirms this to Sora)). As such, Luxu would not only have his own memories but the memories of the original being, before taking over the new vessel. Thereby, Luxu isn't JUST Luxu but holds ALL the memories of his prior hosts. Thus IS all those beings (with a Luxu twist (We ACTUALLY see this happen WITHIN Sora HIMSELF, taking on aspects and mannerisms of Ventus(since Sora held Ven heart inside him, leaving an "imprint" (AND the Dual-Wield gauge Forms are a DIRECT influence from Roxas as a wholly separate being))))
As such, I actually believe (and could explain WHERE she is located), that Skuld resides within Kairi!! Seriously, THINK about it... WHY when Sora split, do we EVENTUALLY get Xion... WITH BLACK HAIR!?!? NEITHER, Sora, Kairi, NOR Ventus HAS Black hair;
Roxas = Ventus/Sora (since Ven's heart STILL isn't whole, he and Sora share the same nobody (hence WHY Roxas LOOKS like Ven but is ACTUALLY Sora));
Namine = Kairi (has the blonde hair because Namine (a memory witch) is DIRECTLY connected to Sora/Kairi. And since Roxas is blond, and Namine is connected to Roxas through Sora/Kair, Namine is blond like Ven also);
XION = SKULD (because (in this theory) Skuld resides within Kairi when Kairis's heart falls into Soras, creating Xion (as Skuld IS strong enough, unlike Ventus)) (YES, I AM aware Org.XIII "created" Xion from an empty vessel and Soras memories. BUT because Sora held Kairis's heart during the extraction process (and their hearts had ALREADY started merging (as Roxas/Sora had)), Skuld, being part of Kairis's heart, enters Soras memories, is extracted by Org.XIII and put into a vessel, No. I)
Skuld MUST reside within Kairi!! And THIS is WHY Kairi is SOOO pure of Light. She is holding a freaking Dandelion from the Age of Fairytales within, just as Sora had with Ven!!!
(little aside to go along with this train of thought, Riku could be holding Brain xD)
I know it's a lot to consider. It's just ALWAYS bugged me Xion "comes" from Sora, but looks like NEITHER of the Hearts he held...
Unlike KH2, 358/2, BBS, KH3, I never managed to understand the Ansem reports from KH1.
Did they mention or say how many episodes will be in Dark Road?
Really hoping Kairi will be a main playable character in Melody of Memory
The truth is here.....
I WAS GOING TO SAY IT! You read my mind!
I love this video @HMK!!!
Can you do kingdom hearts lore for the people who don’t really want to dig deep into the games story outside of the cutscenes? Or also for the people that just may need a touch up. It’s really difficult to find anything like that, and you have a lot of kingdom hearts knowledge. Also if it would be easier to do it in a series that would be cool too. Hope you take it into consideration, thank you.
It's impossible the explain because the everything is so tangled that it can't be simplified without omitting significant chunks of lore. The best you're going to get is the Memory Archives.
What's the name of the background music please?
I feel like everyone forgets this one thing:
Aqua’s charm was supposed to send Kairi somewhere that someone could protect her, presumably that someone being a Keyblade wielder.
Xehanort’s experiment was also meant to send Kairi to a Keyblade wielder.
Everyone knows that.
But what I see people forgetting is that RIKU was the only Keyblade wielder on Destiny Islands at that time. Sora has no Keyblade and no future Keyblade at this point, because Aqua held off giving it to him. Kairi’s heart was supposed to ‘resonate’ with RIKU’S, not Sora’s. This may hint at even more Riku plot importance. RIKU is what Aqua’s charm was attracted to. RIKU is where Xehanort’s experiments led Kairi. RIKU is the turning point in Kingdom Hearts lore. RIKU is the original Keyblade wielder of Destiny Islands. Sora’s Keyblade only chose him in the split second that Riku was swallowed by darkness. Sora got a Keyblade by chance, not destiny. When you think of it that way, Kairi should have crushed on Riku, not Sora, because Riku and Kairi’s hearts ‘resonate’ better with each other than Kairi and Sora’s.
I don’t mean to offend any Kaisora supporters with this analysis, this is just what I have noticed in Kingdom Hearts lore.
Whilst this makes sense without context, you are forgetting that everything that has transpired in the KH series thus far was fated to happen due to the book of prophecy. This takes this whole Riku and Kairi's hearts resonating better making it void. The fact that Sora was granted the keyblade, whilst not intentional was fated to happen regardless because of the existence of that tomb. Destiny played its part regardless just not in the way you thought of originally.
Above that you also seem to overlook the fact at this time Vens heart resided within Sora. For all we know Kairis heart could have been resonating with Sora through Ven himself which would actually make more sense than her heart resonating with Riku due to the fact Aqua was the individual who placed the Charm on her in the first place.
I have a theory. So what if the hooded figure is actually Subject X and she messes with kairi’s fate when apprentice Xehanort experiments on her (kairi). Just a thought there may be a flaw that I have forgotten about
Hmm was he looking for daybreak town? Or at least what it was durring union cross. its beyond light and dark, it was all the worlds prior to the war. Skuld is from there, so she has memories of it. hmm but if thats the case, why Kairi...Hmm he was looking for the heart of the worlds. Hehe maybe he wanted to remake the worlds as they once was...Na that cant be...Right?
Is it possible the gateway between the KH timeline is Quadradum’s reality? Maybe it acts as the Quantum Realm in the KH series?
Remember, in bbs, why was kairi lurking in radiant garden? I believe that seen and the new one in melody will match up. There isnt much let that is not hidden with so much lore now.
Come on!
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they confirm in a report or cut scene that "Xehanort" was experimenting on subject X to try recovering his memories.
Is there a video to this 2:57 not just frozen images but an actual video
If Sora learned that Kairi was once a subject for Apprentice Xehanort's experiments and a waypoint to who is now known as the key bearer, what would he think of her by then?
He wouldn't think any different of her. She's really not to blame. They were all used by Xehanort (and MoM) in a way.
@@rozepanter2000 yeah and sora and kairi saved all of them
@@rozepanter2000 Ya I know he wouldn't, of course.
I just don't know how Nomura does it. He must be some demi-god to create such intricate stories, and I honestly love it sooo much!
Is that Agnirithia theme I hear in the background?
He never saw the end of it
Kairi better not somehow in a twisted reality become Subject X
I’ll accept it if she met Subject X during her own experimentations
hi HMK i know this is not a kingdom hearts x video but I just found this out "the Clock Tower of Daybreak Town is visible during the final fight with Master Xehanort while underwater" what are you thoughts on it and if you already made a video on can you link for me?
What's the song in the background?
Agniratha from Xenoblade Chronicles
Wait, I'm confused about something and it may be stupid but, isn't Skuld supposed to be with Ephemer and the player from KHux ? Like at the end of Union Cross they both come to you and welcome you in this strange white world (the one I think Ava was talking about to keep her keyblade wielders out of the Keyblade War). So if she's in that dimension, how could she have used the machine to get to the era of apprentice Xehanort ?
Who else came here from the final melody of memory trailer?
So..where is subject X then? 🤔
What is the background track?
What if stella and subject x is the same?
Maybe to where sora and the voice where and chirithy
I almost fell off the hype train because I didn’t strap in...oops
Tobira hirakuyo
Maybe Xion is the answer to this?
Honestly i feel like this franchise went a path that they cant fix anymore.
And im not talking about the mobile games (and a stupid rythm game) which still make a lot of ppl angry,
But rather the story. I feel like the story is too messy and wont feel complete/satisfying ever.
Hmk what song is this it’s magical
I found it agniritha have to stan
So Skuld is the girl that Lea and Isa were looking for?
While most clues of Subject X's identity points to being Skuld, I don't remember where it was confirmed she had dark/black hair. Where was that source from?
It's in the Character Files.
Can u tell me the music that plays at 7:00
Interesting