Portraying Christ on the Cross
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- We often see images of Jesus Christ on the cross. But why do we do this if He is RISEN?
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An article about Christ bearing shame, and an Orthodox view of the cross by Fr Stephen Freeman: glory2godforallthings.com/201...
Another article on why the face of Christ on the cross is peaceful: www.pravmir.com/the-face-of-c...
An article on the cross as victory: www.christiancentury.org/arti...
Matushka Frederica Mathewes-Green talking a bit about the Orthodox view of the cross, while introducing a book on the whole subject: • Two Views of the Cross...
Our video on making the sign of the cross: • The Sign of the Cross
Fr Andrew has an excellent and understandable channel of Orthodox material here: / @fr.ajarmus
"12 things I wish I'd known before visiting an Orthodox Church" by Matushka Frederica Mathewes-Green: www.frederica.com/12-things/
An overview of the Liturgy by Matushka Frederica Mathewes-Green: • An Overview of the Ort...
An intro to the Liturgy by Fr Theophan Mackey by @RootsofOrthodoxy : • How Orthodox Christian...
What is the Liturgy by Fr Conan Gill: • Journey To Orthodox Ch...
How to become Orthodox by @BibleIllustrated : • How to Become an Ortho...
A site to help you find more about Orthodoxy and an Orthodox Church (mainly USA, but if you're in another country they can help too): www.orthodoxintro.org/
A list of English-language Orthodox Churches in Australia: orthodoxyinaustralia.com/chur...
If you're after a book, consider 'The Orthodox Church' by Timothy (Bishop Kallistos) Ware, an excellent introduction to Orthodoxy.
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I was raised in a Calvanistic Baptist household and grew up with a deep respect of Jesus for how I could use the topic of Him to communicate with my father. This past year I painted a series of oil paintings I refer to as the "Zounds" series, focusing specifically on the wounds of the crucifixion in close relief. This is because I too am suffering, both in life and spirit, so I paint stark images of gore in moments of Triumph. It was never meant to be a mockery of His suffering, far from it. Upon watching your video, I do believe I should also do a Resurrection series, to complete the message. Though it's sometimes hard for me to see the light in the world.
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“You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? *It was before you eyes that Jesus Christ publicly exhibited as crucified!”*
Seeing that the gentile Galatians were not witnesses of the actual cruxifiction,
(I’m guessing) Christ on the cross was exalted in the earliest Church by Saint Paul ☦️
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Once Christ has filled the cross, it can never be empty again
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Enjoy ye all the feast of faith: Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness. let no one bewail his poverty, for the universal kingdom has been revealed. Let no one weep for his iniquities, for pardon has shown forth from the grave. Let no one fear death, for the Savior’s death has set us free. He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it. By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive. He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh. And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry: Hell, said he, was embittered, when it encountered Thee in the lower regions. It was embittered, for it was abolished. It was embittered, for it was mocked. It was embittered, for it was slain. It was embittered, for it was overthrown. It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains. It took a body, and met God face to face. It took earth, and encountered Heaven. It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen.
O Death, where is your sting? O Hell, where is your victory? Christ is risen, and you are overthrown. Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen. Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice. Christ is risen, and life reigns. Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave. For Christ, being risen from the dead, is become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. To Him be glory and dominion unto ages of ages. Amen.
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As a Muslim, I Respect Orthox ideas about defending death and Living eternal life, But why Jesus christ need to die? Can't he Just forgive all people sins and send his message through the bible?
and If I Comit a Sin at the moment it shouldn't be a sin then.. because jesus died for our sins, so everything has no laws or showen bouders, I hope you get my point and I am looking forward to the reply in details. Thank you!
forgiving peoples sins does not make them repent, and that is what god wants form us, and not having true repentances is not seeking forgiveness, you would repeat it again. when it mentions that he died for our sins, it ment that he died to give us a way to forgive our sins unlike the Old Testament. God himself came down from the heavens and living a human life, and spilling his divine blood also forgave Adams sin and all the sins of the Old Testament and allowed death to be defeated by never violating humanities free will. when we take confession, we do not confess to a priest we confess to God himself and the priest is the witness. and Jesus himself said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." sorry for this being a bit disjointed
God will forgive us again and again, but we must repent of our sins. Only a very small number of Protestants teach that once you believe in Christ you can sin as much as you want without repentance and there’ll be no consequences. As James 2 says, faith without works is dead
There's so much more than we can possibly say! It isn't just forgiveness that Christ brings. He enters the world as a human, defeats death, and then makes death the very way we can enter eternal life. He creates a path for us to follow. The best thing I can recommend is honestly to visit an Orthodox Church and have a conversation with a priest. Ask some questions!
Sin of any kind leads to death, spiritual death. Jesus took on our sins, brought them to the cross, and died on it only to be raised. He conquered death. Though we are broken and continue to sin, through Jesus we are promised eternal life hereafter.
Thank you, Jesus.
Technically you could say, "yes, He could 'just forgive'", but that wouldn't fix the core problem and would show, instead, great disregard from His part. Sinning is not just matter of transgressions against God. Sinning is corruptive power, spiritual sickness, that bruises us and weakens us and covers us with abscessed wounds. And this is caused by death, which is separation from Him who is the Life and the Truth... If Jesus "just forgave" us, sinners, that would be like dealing with symptoms of sickness instead of the sickness itself, or like sweeping problems under the rug. Forgiving changes how God is towards us, but that wouldn't change how we are towards God - it wont heal us or purify us.
Furthermore, Jesus' death was not merely a sin offering, but also the true sacrifice. We Orthodox declare multiple times in the divine liturgy "let us commend ourselves and one another and our whole life to Christ our God", according to the commandment to give ourselves to God as living sacrifices to God. Naturally, we couldn't do that unless He who is the High Priest has given His sacrifice first. Only the offering given by Jesus is perfect enough for reconciling God with the world.
Tomorrow starts the apostles fast. What does it mean when it says we should fast In secret, can we tell our non-Christian friends about us fasting?
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I have no qualms with my Orthodox brothers over the meaning of the crucifix. My concern is not so much with meaning but emphasis. While it's understood within Orthodox and Catholic circles that the crucifix is by no means a symbol of defeat, such intentionality is lost in translation. Christ is depicted as sorrowful and forlorn, his body broken and bloodied. Such a state is difficult to reconcile with His unseen triumph over sin and death. It's antithetical to the stated purpose, though I suppose the cross is inherently antithetical.
I would argue the empty cross conveys a much clearer message of Christ's victory over death; while the crucifix is a complex collage of theological concepts. Perhaps, the problem is trying to pack so much symbolism into one icon. Marrying the cross with other symbols may resolve the tension. In this regard, the empty tomb is a largely overlooked symbol that Christians should employ more often.
This is precisely the disagreement that we have with the original Romans and Greeks.
It may be difficult to reconcile the triumph with the pain, but that is exactly the difficulty that the pagans had when we started preaching the Gospel to them. We don't change the symbol and the depiction because it is difficult to reconcile. We teach the meaning so people can appreciate it as we do. Christ on the Cross is victory.
(Also we would say that His triumph over sin and death wasn't entirely 'unseen', but that we see part of it on the Cross)
@@Patristix Speaking as a graphic designer, an icon’s purpose is to succinctly summarize a thing or idea in abstract form. It’s an efficient form of communication. An icon that impedes communication, because of unintentional ambiguity, is counterproductive. To your point that we shouldn’t change the symbol and the depiction because of reconciliation challenges, aren’t symbols fundamentally adapted communication? The purest depiction of the Gospel is what’s written in the text; however, illiteracy among the general population necessitated we use iconography to facilitate communication. Even so, what I’m suggesting does not mean changing the crucifix. It means complementing the crucifix with other icons for a more well-rounded catechism. Why not use all symbols at our disposal?
@zachhecita uh oh. You're using logic. Orthodox don't like that. Catholics don't like it, slightly less.
I'm being sardonic. Lord have mercy on me a sinner cuz the world don't when me a grinner. 😅
An empty cross means nothing. The Roman Empire had thousands. It's the empty tomb that signifies victory. And St. Paul himself knew nothing but Christ and Him crucified (among the Corinthians).