Tom Aspinall: "Heavyweight MMA has different RULES"👊🗯️🤨

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  • @albertoamoruso7711
    @albertoamoruso7711 3 месяца назад +6324

    This is why DC saying he has to "play hard" when scrambling with Islam is so fucking impressive

    • @fgc1850
      @fgc1850 3 месяца назад +279

      He still plays, he doesnt go for real

    • @albertoamoruso7711
      @albertoamoruso7711 3 месяца назад

      @@fgc1850 He literally says he goes 100% with Islam
      ruclips.net/user/shorts-wYL3ufsgEs?si=tV61whYnT9M12dKB

    • @GaryCooper12
      @GaryCooper12 3 месяца назад +492

      Key word here - “play”
      DC plays with khabib and Islam. There’s a massive gap there

    • @albertoamoruso7711
      @albertoamoruso7711 3 месяца назад

      @@GaryCooper12 He literally said "and next I'm grappling at 100% because he's that frickin strong"
      youtube. com/shorts/-wYL3ufsgEs?si=o_Y8YG3JU5z6dfyO

    • @Inaluogh
      @Inaluogh 3 месяца назад +493

      Prime DC would literally smack Khabib and Islam's heads together like coconuts in wrestling. He was too big and powerful for a natural middleweight cutting to lightweight.

  • @altanbilen5928
    @altanbilen5928 3 месяца назад +4349

    Bro doesnt derrick lewis just perma stand up from bottom position sometimes even mounted like it's no big deal

    • @daiicasco55
      @daiicasco55 3 месяца назад +136

      not against almeida

    • @willuvsu2043
      @willuvsu2043 3 месяца назад +128

      @@daiicasco55Almeida vs most of his career😭😭

    • @Yeahbruh200
      @Yeahbruh200 3 месяца назад +117

      yeah against garbage opponents you casual

    • @TheProperSquatch
      @TheProperSquatch 3 месяца назад

      @@Yeahbruh200I swear you actually the most annoying mma fan “casual” you definitely think khabib is the goat “casual”🤡🤡

    • @whyareyoureadingmyname5854
      @whyareyoureadingmyname5854 3 месяца назад +4

      Yea because jiu jitsu and wrestling doesn't work in MMA

  • @McAppleWar
    @McAppleWar 3 месяца назад +619

    This is why Karelins career is so impressive. He did to heavyweights what you can normally only do to lighter men, every time, 887 times.

    • @robf1801
      @robf1801 3 месяца назад +40

      He was also on that Russian Secret Juice.

    • @2_mutch
      @2_mutch 3 месяца назад +39

      ​@robf1801 granted he probably was but to go 6 years without even a point against you at Olympic heavyweight level is wild roids or not

    • @daniellundquest8252
      @daniellundquest8252 2 месяца назад +5

      @@2_mutchtrue but steroids are performance enhancers. And he performed hundreds of times on it. It’s impressive how we did it but still isn’t cool when you have to juice to get there because it’s an argument against every point and every win

    • @YourMommas
      @YourMommas 2 месяца назад

      @@daniellundquest8252 Everyone in the Olympics is on the special sauce.

    • @bobbys.4714
      @bobbys.4714 2 месяца назад +2

      Karelin is not a man.... he is a sowjet experiment! Only beaten by changin da rules! I bet in his prime, he could lift a german brewery horse without sweatin 😅

  • @cameronmoss4628
    @cameronmoss4628 3 месяца назад +1560

    I've done jiu jiu-jitsu for a good few years and mma for about a year and a half and the number 1 rule when sparring a heavy dude is to never let him get side control, mount or back mount cause you're fucked especially in MMA rules. Its just so hard to get out from underneath a big dude when the know what they're doing

    • @julienducasse1819
      @julienducasse1819 3 месяца назад +17

      🧐

    • @sajan901
      @sajan901 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@julienducasse1819what if other dude is same weight ? Would be still difficult ?

    • @PandasRViolent
      @PandasRViolent 3 месяца назад +25

      This dude is just speaking nonsense, size is relative. He’s always been the biggest guy or one of the biggest guys in the room so more times than not his size alone is physically overwhelming to the other individual and he only feels pressure from other HW

    • @elmango705
      @elmango705 3 месяца назад +1

      @@sajan901that’s what I was wondering too

    • @cameronmoss4628
      @cameronmoss4628 3 месяца назад +16

      @PandasRViolent wdym? It is genuinely a lot harder to get out from underneath a bigger dude without being able to frame with your legs cause they're just heavier. I'm only 80kg and somebody who's 100-120kg is a nightmare to win against if they get top position, it's just common sense

  • @aesop2733
    @aesop2733 3 месяца назад +147

    Relative strength tends to be higher and more relevant when looking at smaller dudes. The bigger the guy, the more likely absolute strength is the conversation to have.

    • @JasonLuther1
      @JasonLuther1 3 месяца назад +2

      Architect of my kodokushi

    • @KinGSlayEr-y6v
      @KinGSlayEr-y6v 2 месяца назад +2

      Relative strength is still absolute strength and absolute strength is still relative strength. Strength is strength. The relative strength still has an objective absolute value and the absolute strength is still a relative portion of the persons weight.

    • @АлексейК-678
      @АлексейК-678 2 месяца назад +2

      Relative strength doesn’t exist and only exists to favor tiny guys to make up for their insecurities. Total and overall strength is how you gauge strength. 200kg is 200kg no matter who picks it up it doesn’t change the weight.

    • @aesop2733
      @aesop2733 2 месяца назад +3

      @@АлексейК-678 yes weight classes are a figment of the imagination and lifting 5x your weight is the exact same as lifting 1-2x your weight and no one is impressed by an ant lifting 100x their weight because I have big muscles, me big man lift rock me cool and strong. As a large man who has no skin in the relative strength game - you're coping so hard. Neurological conditioning of the available musculature is a totally valid way to measure strength relative to weight classes. You will never lift 5x your weight and you know it.

    • @aesop2733
      @aesop2733 2 месяца назад +2

      @@KinGSlayEr-y6v "relative strength is still absolute strength"
      No, it isn't. Words mean things.

  • @ponternal
    @ponternal 2 месяца назад +17

    This is why DJ submitting a 200 lb brown belt was so impressive

    • @benjaminvammen8445
      @benjaminvammen8445 Месяц назад +1

      And he was way bigger than 200. I read he anywhere between 250 and 280. Maybe 2250 more realistically but bigger than 200 for sure

    • @ghnbtrcv8672
      @ghnbtrcv8672 Месяц назад +1

      He was like 250

  • @superuser8636
    @superuser8636 3 месяца назад +367

    I competed as a bjj light heavyweight before dropping weight divisions and he’s right: anything over 215 feels unbelievably ridiculous heavy on top of you

    • @MonoAkalifrustrado
      @MonoAkalifrustrado 3 месяца назад +3

      Had to fight one time a weight class higher than mine because there was no one on the local BJJ tournament here in my former weight class (-100kg/ +-225lb) so they put me to fight against the big guys. Size and strength does matter. A lot.

    • @iamnotjcook
      @iamnotjcook 3 месяца назад +6

      Fuck, I competed at light heavy after being a welterweight last year and I'm a pretty solid dude below 170, but being 182, lighter than everyone in my class, shorter than everyone and then everyone happened to be athletes and naturally that weight, it was hard as shit.

    • @TheSmilodon85
      @TheSmilodon85 3 месяца назад +5

      WWE got lil dudes thinking they can Rey Mysterio the shit out of dudes the size of big Show lol

    • @MonoAkalifrustrado
      @MonoAkalifrustrado 3 месяца назад +4

      @@TheSmilodon85 those are the same that go to a BJJ practice and become wide eyed when they feel on their wrist the vice grip of that 200lb+ grizzly construction worker with a beer belly

    • @soloqbarbarian6021
      @soloqbarbarian6021 3 месяца назад

      @@TheSmilodon85 lil dudes historically always won in war but rejects like yourself think size matters.

  • @moneyb9494
    @moneyb9494 3 месяца назад +545

    Yeah gravity is real😂

    • @catornas3805
      @catornas3805 3 месяца назад +2

      weight doesn’t effect gravity, don’t u remember in school when they explain how a bowling ball falls at the same speed as a golf ball

    • @Masonjeremiah95
      @Masonjeremiah95 3 месяца назад +31

      @@catornas3805bro 💀

    • @Croco_G
      @Croco_G 3 месяца назад +31

      @@catornas3805wtf ru talking about 😂

    • @todaogunbanwo7748
      @todaogunbanwo7748 3 месяца назад

      Are you okay? Weight is the effect of gravity. Mass × gravity = weight 😂​@@catornas3805

    • @The_batman_mma
      @The_batman_mma 3 месяца назад +5

      That’s not gravity that’s density 😐

  • @warrentonyferguson6172
    @warrentonyferguson6172 3 месяца назад +114

    UFC heavyweights of today are fucking huge

    • @shark7n10
      @shark7n10 3 месяца назад +2

      Freaks of nature literally

    • @mongoose890
      @mongoose890 3 месяца назад

      Most of them are fat middleweights

    • @goatbebryant4915
      @goatbebryant4915 3 месяца назад +5

      Big foot Silva aka poatans dad

    • @extraficalCO
      @extraficalCO 3 месяца назад +10

      Dudes back then were bigger and leaner. Look at Shane Carwin, Lesnar, Reem, Bigfoot. Granted a lot of them might've weighed less than some heavies today, but they were 250lean, compared to today's 280lbs of blubber. But I guess that's pre-USADA era, so its to be expected.

    • @IZJamieIB
      @IZJamieIB 3 месяца назад +14

      ​@@extraficalCO yeah them boys were juiced

  • @mandemfromcandem8473
    @mandemfromcandem8473 3 месяца назад +36

    Honestly what heavy weights have a good game cuz 90% of them are literally just big with half a hook

    • @InFernoKnight95
      @InFernoKnight95 3 месяца назад +12

      making mistakes in heavy weight is very punishing too,one clean hook could knock you out no matter how good of a fighter you are.

    • @Pleasekillme12369
      @Pleasekillme12369 2 месяца назад

      I'm 90kg and he's chatting shit I used to fight with a 6,9 ginger kid I lived with for fun (nohomo) it's not massively harder like grow a pair

    • @s.k7770
      @s.k7770 2 месяца назад +6

      Yea because the return on investment doesn’t make as much sense to be expending so much energy on volume and moving when your body is less capable of that and then just 1 punch lands and ends you. They have to fight differently than smaller guys, 135lbers can eat 100 punches and look like a martial arts movie because each punch has less consequence and their movements require less energy than someone moving 265lb’s

    • @JordanCarlin-qy5ed
      @JordanCarlin-qy5ed 2 месяца назад +1

      A lot of them have a very good ground game

    • @mandemfromcandem8473
      @mandemfromcandem8473 Месяц назад +2

      @@s.k7770 nah loads of 220 plus pound people can move athletically lmao its one of thos where they go into better paying lmao

  • @myguy2143
    @myguy2143 3 месяца назад +5

    I saw Aspinall live and he really is a massive dude. He would ragdoll most light heavies.

  • @lookalive5110
    @lookalive5110 3 месяца назад +103

    Bro the editing had me lmfao 🤣🤣

    • @justsayin._.
      @justsayin._. 3 месяца назад +2

      The part where he said he knows what is like to have a big guy on him, n then the kid with the concerned look...was corny af. It's so overplayed

    • @lookalive5110
      @lookalive5110 3 месяца назад +6

      @@justsayin._. Idc it was still funny to me 😆😆

    • @stoneflower8751
      @stoneflower8751 3 месяца назад

      facts the lego sfx had me 😅

    • @kalbertthebrave
      @kalbertthebrave 3 месяца назад

      Greg Hardy with OG steve sound it's kinda hilarious

  • @smoketj4830
    @smoketj4830 3 месяца назад +118

    the squeaks 🤣🤣🤣💀

  • @kab1r
    @kab1r 3 месяца назад +20

    The large wrestler dude has always been a threat no matter what time or place.

    • @L3WIS666
      @L3WIS666 2 месяца назад

      What happen to almadea at heavyweight then

  • @tobiasmccallum9697
    @tobiasmccallum9697 3 месяца назад +3

    I was a 110kg powerlifter/bodybuilder. I grappled a lot with my bjj friends (they are amazing, i am bad)
    I have had to slim down to 80kgs for health reasons now......
    The difference between grappling the same friends when i was 110kg vs 80kg is literally night and day....... Tom is 1000% correct here, as anyone who has grappled monsters will confirm!!!

  • @battles151
    @battles151 3 месяца назад +114

    Not many lighter weight fighters carry that flub weight, theyre always cut. Plenty of flub in upper weight classes. Get a lean heavyweight against a flub and you will see the difference I speak of. Not many out of shape fighters in classes that need to cut. Heavyweight is different for sure 💯

    • @robjohnston1026
      @robjohnston1026 3 месяца назад +4

      My mans is speaking true knowledge💪🏼💯

    • @shane3871
      @shane3871 3 месяца назад +2

      Jon jones enters chat*

    • @MrHOFThatGuy
      @MrHOFThatGuy 3 месяца назад +9

      they need a 230 weight class like cruiser weight or something along those lines 205 to 265 makes no sense when we do 125 135 145 155

    • @extracrispy9229
      @extracrispy9229 3 месяца назад +5

      @@shane3871he’s so flubby right now looking like DC out here 😂

    • @TW7S95
      @TW7S95 3 месяца назад

      ​@@MrHOFThatGuy agreed.

  • @justchillen6166
    @justchillen6166 2 месяца назад

    Gotta respect the heavyweights they are in their own league

  • @shaba7064
    @shaba7064 3 месяца назад +75

    That’s why there’s weight classes Tom

    • @victorzavala69
      @victorzavala69 3 месяца назад +16

      I was about to say yeah he’s 110 kilos but so are you

    • @danienelphoto
      @danienelphoto 3 месяца назад +23

      In heavyweight the margins are much bigger. Anything over heavyweight bottom limit is fine. You could end up with a guy 25kgs heavier than you.

    • @CoBeMuaDong4100
      @CoBeMuaDong4100 3 месяца назад +7

      weight classes or not, 110 kg is still 110 kg, gravity doesn’t help you out at this amount of weight

    • @FalseProphetFallacy
      @FalseProphetFallacy 3 месяца назад +11

      ⁠@@CoBeMuaDong4100If you weigh 110 and can’t move 110 you got some skill issues ngl.

    • @CoBeMuaDong4100
      @CoBeMuaDong4100 3 месяца назад +4

      @@FalseProphetFallacy yes a heavyweight should be able to throw another heavyweight around but it’s more difficult than a 70kg lightweight throwing another 70kg lightweight

  • @jackthewinter5066
    @jackthewinter5066 Месяц назад +1

    Watching DC and Alexandr Romanov picking up big guys and throwing them like a girl angry with her Barbie doll is simply incredible

  • @michaelm9710
    @michaelm9710 3 месяца назад +19

    As someone who grapples at heavyweight, I can agree but we also have the density to take the pressure. A middle weight guy with all those bones and sharp edges is painful in a different way.

    • @foodeat2000
      @foodeat2000 3 месяца назад +6

      Way less scrambles in MMA heavier weight classes compared to lighter weight classes. In like Flyweight there are people who actually attempt 20 plus takedowns and scramble like crazy for 3-5 rounds. That would never happen in heavyweight. Even 1 failed takedown of a good wrestler can be his definitive loss at HW because of draining cardio. Thats why heavyweight tends to be hard hitters only because grappling just high risk low reward.

    • @brandonamezquita4501
      @brandonamezquita4501 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@foodeat2000A lot of the HW champs have been wrestlers/grapplers.

    • @JordanCarlin-qy5ed
      @JordanCarlin-qy5ed 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@brandonamezquita4501Stipe, DC, Jones, Caine, Lesnar, Werdum e.t.c

    • @yigitkabaday3179
      @yigitkabaday3179 Месяц назад +1

      Painful? Could be. Can he win against a professional heavyweight? Hell na.

    • @michaelm9710
      @michaelm9710 Месяц назад +2

      ⁠@@foodeat2000totally. I’ve grappled with a 300 lb dude and I’ve seen that guy tap from exhaustion. But I’m commenting on what Tom is saying about grappling with a heavy weight v someone who weighs 170 lbs.

  • @ricanraikage4297
    @ricanraikage4297 2 месяца назад +2

    Didn't we see Demetrius Johnson win a BJJ comp against a heavyweight??? Its all about skill.

  • @adishkulkarni
    @adishkulkarni 3 месяца назад +10

    For the Americans,
    80 kilograms = 176 lbs
    110 kilograms = 242 lbs
    120 kilograms = 265 lbs

  • @jackhawkins8259
    @jackhawkins8259 3 месяца назад +1

    This is extremely true from a former HWT wrestler and currently super ultra heavy jiu jitsu guy

  • @taxationistheft7
    @taxationistheft7 3 месяца назад +3

    A lot of the heavyweights don’t have technique though, I think a better example of this would be you can’t rely on a chin in heavyweight because if you do you’re getting slept

    • @andreimuresian7146
      @andreimuresian7146 3 месяца назад

      Do you think this is the reason why heavyweights are in general more long lives in their careers compared to lower weight classes? Because they take an overall less brain damage due to the fact that they go down much more easily and don't take so much accumulated damage?

    • @taxationistheft7
      @taxationistheft7 3 месяца назад +3

      @@andreimuresian7146 oh shit yeah maybe, I feel like that makes sense. Just one clean blow and it’s lights out. But a lighter guy takes several clean blows a lot of the times. Kinda like how boxing has more CTE than mma

    • @joefilms2775
      @joefilms2775 3 месяца назад +2

      Its better to get lights out early than to be punished 25 minutes straight even if you havent tasted the canvas.

    • @brandonamezquita4501
      @brandonamezquita4501 3 месяца назад

      ​@@joefilms2775Yup. That's why the 10 count is dangerous in boxing.

  • @ChipFreeSpace
    @ChipFreeSpace 3 месяца назад +1

    The award for "no shit" goes to... ✋️ Tom Aspinall

  • @amanrob
    @amanrob 3 месяца назад +5

    As long as you have the strength of an average heavyweight, and can get to top position, grappling those guys is easy. I bounce between super and ultra heavy. Because they’re less mobile, they’re easier to control and dominate. It’s the reason why in BJJ (at those weight classes) that the guy who gets the first takedown, or ends up on top, wins 80% of the time.

    • @TheKG636
      @TheKG636 3 месяца назад +1

      Agreed, I’m a stocky guy 5’10 and 230, I usually have an easier time controlling the guys bigger than me from the top, some of the smaller guys at my gym are also VERY proficient at armdrags from the bottom, I’ve found the bigger guys don’t have the speed to get around me like that.

    • @Mikamichae
      @Mikamichae 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@TheKG636 how tf u 210 when Ur 5 foot 10

    • @TheKG636
      @TheKG636 3 месяца назад

      @@Mikamichae Just big framed, I have bigger wrists than most people I know too.
      Also I’m not particularly lean, I’m 20% body fat but I probably look less than that due to the amount of muscle I have.

    • @Mikamichae
      @Mikamichae 3 месяца назад +1

      @TheKG636 to be fair now u mention it I'm visualising pacific islander guys I used to work with, Samoan/Tongans
      Average height but just huge build

    • @TheKG636
      @TheKG636 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Mikamichae I’m actually south Asian, mums side Indian and dads side from Afghanistan, I think it’s pretty unusual for us to be built like this but my brothers all have the same build as me too.

  • @shialeboof3504
    @shialeboof3504 Месяц назад +1

    Bro just now finding out about physics 😂

  • @keedoopop4900
    @keedoopop4900 3 месяца назад +10

    Theres a reason the HW titles only been defended 4 times in a row

    • @XhesOP.
      @XhesOP. 3 месяца назад +1

      3 times in a row* 4 times in total

    • @brandonamezquita4501
      @brandonamezquita4501 3 месяца назад +2

      The interesting part is that it's the same with LW. It has only been defended a maximum of 3 times.

    • @PhilSophia-ox7ep
      @PhilSophia-ox7ep 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, and it has nothing to do with what Tom is talking about

    • @smajdalf3928
      @smajdalf3928 Месяц назад

      perhaps because someone is blocking it hmm I wonder who might that be

    • @brandonamezquita4501
      @brandonamezquita4501 Месяц назад +1

      @@smajdalf3928 If you're implying Jon, then no.

  • @aulkhic4
    @aulkhic4 2 месяца назад +1

    Mighty mouse waving in the corner like 'Yoooooo'

  • @dirtyd1373
    @dirtyd1373 Месяц назад +5

    "Wrestling somebody whose your size is way harder than wrestling someone whose smaller." Wisest words ever spoken by an amazing fighter 😂😂😂

    • @mxbblife_mu
      @mxbblife_mu Месяц назад +1

      That's Hilarious coming from Someone who got Submitted by a guy 30 pounds less than him 😂😂😂

    • @Justntime4523
      @Justntime4523 17 дней назад +1

      ​@@mxbblife_muyeah and people are delusional thinking he's going to walk right through Jon Jones

    • @DSM-w3z
      @DSM-w3z 9 дней назад +2

      That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying it’s much easier for 135ers/155ers to scramble, bridge, escape etc vs at heavyweight or 205.

    • @Justntime4523
      @Justntime4523 9 дней назад +1

      @@DSM-w3z thank you finally somebody that understands the mission that's being talked about

  • @zartic4life
    @zartic4life 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm a 180 pound guy I routinely wrestled 220 to 150 and yes its different but each have their strengths and weaknesses. To be honest the strong 150 guys were more difficult for me.

  • @KaninTuzi
    @KaninTuzi 3 месяца назад +7

    "Trust me, heavier people are heavier. You'd have to be a heavyweight to realize that" 😂

  • @NotUrDJ
    @NotUrDJ Месяц назад

    Gloated sfx and memes in between 😂

  • @KobyMathews
    @KobyMathews 3 месяца назад +66

    People forget getting in full guard or a lot of submissions don't work on bigger guys who are thicker around the waist.

    • @user-vg8tv1hp9c
      @user-vg8tv1hp9c 3 месяца назад +3

      BJJ is great but it only works on people who have 0 defense, and normal sized people

    • @JaWick_WitaStick
      @JaWick_WitaStick 3 месяца назад +33

      Both of you have no clue what you are talking about

    • @huntermonzon5231
      @huntermonzon5231 3 месяца назад +9

      Lmfao Werdum proved that statement wrong lol

    • @KobyMathews
      @KobyMathews 3 месяца назад

      @@JaWick_WitaStick I've grappled with a 300lb black belt I couldn't get my legs around him

    • @Qwerty-ex2id
      @Qwerty-ex2id 3 месяца назад +6

      @@KobyMathews and u arent a 6'4 265er so ur opinion doesnt matter..

  • @peekingtom8337
    @peekingtom8337 3 месяца назад +1

    Give Tom Jones, end the winning streak, the whole world knows that he is the man to beat right now. The real champ, Tom aspinol

    • @sebfox2194
      @sebfox2194 3 месяца назад

      Tom Jones is an old Welsh singer.

  • @tbunny6305
    @tbunny6305 3 месяца назад +28

    Sounds like the smaller guys think you're weak bro

  • @limsrusill
    @limsrusill 3 месяца назад +2

    Usually the guys who have lightweights on top of them are also lightweights, Tom.

  • @ta1260
    @ta1260 3 месяца назад +11

    Yes, weight is a scale.

    • @GrugginNClubbin
      @GrugginNClubbin 3 месяца назад

      Shut up baldy

    • @OfSheikah
      @OfSheikah 2 месяца назад

      is it when its moving with differently spread distribution clashing with another object of the same

    • @ta1260
      @ta1260 2 месяца назад +1

      @@OfSheikah Yes, weight is a scale.

  • @factoverfiction4699
    @factoverfiction4699 3 месяца назад

    It's almost a different game at HW/LHW. Another reason why Jones is so impressive.

  • @honestlee9921
    @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад +11

    I grapple with women and children all the time, people don’t understand that it’s much harder when you go against a man your size - Tom aspinal

  • @Dan-codes
    @Dan-codes 3 месяца назад

    I'm 265, fought in 2008 at 170. I can absolutely abuse people with my weight advantage now. I curl 170 now. It's definitely a different world.

  • @BLACULA-Skeewoah
    @BLACULA-Skeewoah 3 месяца назад +30

    Lightweights fight other lightweights...
    What a stupid comparison, especially when cain velasquez, Daniel cormier, noguiera and Frank mir were destroying heavyweights in grappling exchanges

    • @EdgyDabs47
      @EdgyDabs47 3 месяца назад +3

      Heavyweights were also smaller back then

    • @j.gwells5252
      @j.gwells5252 3 месяца назад +14

      There’s something called the strength to weight ratio and it’s much larger at 185+

    • @Nobody-kp5nc
      @Nobody-kp5nc 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@j.gwells5252 but strength to weight ratio goes does as size increases

    • @stefrecords1
      @stefrecords1 3 месяца назад

      ​The other guy thought he was onto something 😂😂😂

    • @marcionhoPW
      @marcionhoPW 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@EdgyDabs47Wtf you talking about,Nogueira ragdolled Bob Sapp,Frank Mir too with 30+lbs opponents

  • @WayneTechGaming
    @WayneTechGaming 3 месяца назад

    Bro, side control itself becomes a submission against big dudes

  • @prettybird3804
    @prettybird3804 3 месяца назад +22

    but it’s the same weight for the opponent so therefore if you actually wanna say that, it’s not true because they are all the same weight or close to it and that means they deal with the same thing but if you’re bigger you are stronger unless you don’t work out or something

    • @Godspear-bw8dg
      @Godspear-bw8dg 3 месяца назад +35

      I mean strength and weightl aren't necessarily directly proportional so I'm sure its different

    • @elic2575
      @elic2575 3 месяца назад +29

      you missed his entire point, basically, a 150 guy can wrestle a 150 guy without exerting even close to the same effort as a 240+ guy wrestling another 240+ guy. The reason for that is the weight increase isnt proportionate to the strength increase. Heavyweights are really strong, but not strong enough to wrestle with a professional 240 pounds of meat as easily as a 150 guy can with another 150.
      Its hard to explain if i were to put it another way, lets say every 10 pounds of a human equate to 1 level in size, and strength/cardio was arbitrarly also put in levels, a size lvl 12 will be lvl 12 in strength lets say, a size lvl 13 will be a lvl 12.5, a size lvl 14 will be lvl 13, as size increases so does strength but not proportionatly, by the time u get to lvl 24 size youve got lvl 20 in strength lets say, that makes far and above the strongest, but if youre fighting another lvl 24 size, the 4 lvls between size and strength becomes a problem, that gap is alot wider than the size lvl 14 whos only got 1 lvl of differential.
      TLTR:
      As u increase in weight and size ur strength increases but not at the same pace. The heavier you are the bigger the gap between your weight and the strength you can exert, that gap gets smaller the lighter you are

    • @good8619
      @good8619 3 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@elic2575Problem is, the 150 guys are lightyears ahead in terms of skill so by the time you get the 150'er off of you, you've defended like 2-3 submission attempts and scrambled for 5 minutes. Heavyweights are well heavy yeah but the skill level is nowhere near Lightweight.

    • @prettybird3804
      @prettybird3804 3 месяца назад

      @@elic2575 But isnt it true that someone who is for example 240 wouldn’t they be more able to lift something that weighed in at around 480 easier than someone who weighed 120 would be able to lift something that’s 240 or even about the same if they were strength trained about the same i’m just curious not hating

    • @elic2575
      @elic2575 3 месяца назад +1

      @@prettybird3804 id disagree with that tbh, first on the premise idk how true that is, if both are trained id expect it to be pretty proportional or slightly on the lighter side (dont forget most 240+ guys are gym goers while most 120 arent). Also, i shouldve specified but when i use strength i mean it in a broad way, im counting muscle endurance in that, which in an mma fight is very important and is a big part of why wreslting a 240+ man is hard as a 240. Its having a shorter gastank and yet having to exert more effort than any other weight classes

  • @robertwilson3275
    @robertwilson3275 2 месяца назад

    When the ufc was full of killer fighters the Light heavyweight was the best class...

  • @szczurrat2402
    @szczurrat2402 3 месяца назад +8

    I fractured my forearms in wrestling because i was the third heaviest guy on the team. We had two heavyweights who had to cut every week to make 300. I wrestled 189. I weighed 184. I had a partner in my weight class but if most of the guys flaked out of practice anyways. If one of our guys didnt show it was a bad day for me. Fireman carries were a joke to watch, but was insanity to pull off with one of them. One guy, all practice, would grab me, fall onto me or grab my arm and throw me...by my arm. I had hairline fractures all up and down my arms bracing their weight and impact. I told my coach i was getting "shin splints" in my arms and i went and got checked. Yep. Big guys just did cardio if one didnt show after that.

    • @StrUpSavage
      @StrUpSavage 3 месяца назад

      That sounds like your coach was a moron with no common sense. I hope you’re atleast stronger from that experience

  • @isaacreyes268
    @isaacreyes268 3 месяца назад

    Being a heavyweight is not that specifically different. It's generally about the weight class.

  • @zachmorgan6982
    @zachmorgan6982 3 месяца назад +9

    I agree with Tom for sure. There aren't near the same amount of subs in the HW division as in other divisions. It's simply different

    • @nicholascoob1350
      @nicholascoob1350 3 месяца назад +1

      Tbh that's just because grappling takes more skill and HW are less skilled on average

    • @ts0088
      @ts0088 3 месяца назад

      Yeah cause heavyweights suck.😂

  • @gromswowguide7927
    @gromswowguide7927 2 месяца назад +1

    You can cut corners with your technique if you're bigger, and there are techniques the lighter opponent can't get away with, fighting a larger opponent.

  • @twistedstrength.
    @twistedstrength. 3 месяца назад +4

    This is why you should only be heavyweight if you are truly truly genetically supposed to. The guys in lighter categories have a greater structure to muscle mass ratio. Their bones, ligaments, tendons and joints are meant for their weight class. Heavyweights should be the same. Obviously, there are many exceptions to this. It’s a good argument for more weight classes between 205 and 265.

  • @dragonballsuper1519
    @dragonballsuper1519 Месяц назад +1

    There is a black guy on RUclips who grapples with a Spider-Man suit on and I have seen him submit much heavier guys while he probably weighs 150lb. Technique and experience can make a lightweight feel like a heavyweight. You would need someone like Jones or Aspinall to erase those advantages.

  • @JonahWinfield-Gummer
    @JonahWinfield-Gummer 3 месяца назад +3

    bro forgot he was a heavyweight to

    • @InFernoKnight95
      @InFernoKnight95 3 месяца назад

      you don't understand what he is trying to say? a heavy weight big as him on top of him(a heavy weight) is different from a 80kg guy on top of a 80kg guy, heavy weight fighters are stronger but it's harder to escape from bottom position for heavy weight fighters because they don't have the leverage to use their power at a bottom position,it's much harder for a heavy weight fighter to push off another heavy weight fighter than a light weight vs light weight.

  • @raycornett5854
    @raycornett5854 2 месяца назад

    Can confirm I roll with smaller black belts all the time it has gotten my bjj better but when you roll with the giant mf black belts it’s different

    • @adamburling9551
      @adamburling9551 2 месяца назад

      What he's not understanding is that in weightclasses it matters. But for work load. He doesn't understand that smaller guys put out much more energy. And cardio and skill.

  • @Utygyihgfggc
    @Utygyihgfggc 3 месяца назад +5

    Jailton Almeida is a former welterweight that will pickup and throw around any heavyweight in the division. So his point is kinda wrong

    • @Tomas-wm3pk
      @Tomas-wm3pk 3 месяца назад

      Almeida é muito forte

  • @RSTEM
    @RSTEM 3 месяца назад

    This video made Bradley Martins day

  • @gireadaeduardo8825
    @gireadaeduardo8825 3 месяца назад +12

    I mean how wold he know how it feels for a 80 kilo guy when he isn't even that size

    • @ChronicJ12
      @ChronicJ12 3 месяца назад +3

      Probably trains with them

    • @stefanilic0421
      @stefanilic0421 3 месяца назад +6

      He wasn't always a HW, he was lighter as a lad, before bulking and he has been training for his whole life

    • @dancoy09
      @dancoy09 3 месяца назад

      Hes been peavticibg ju jitsu all his life of course he has wrestled with all weights. How you cant understand that?

    • @extracrispy9229
      @extracrispy9229 3 месяца назад +7

      I mean if he’s been grappling since he was a kid he probably has been that size it’s not like he came out the womb 265 😂

    • @ZUKOVULA
      @ZUKOVULA 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@extracrispy9229Exactly. Great point

  • @jamesteegardner2273
    @jamesteegardner2273 26 дней назад

    My older brother is 6 foot 2 inches, 250 pounds all muscle, he's benched 505 pounds clean for 2 reps, and he's a brown belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Just from being as big and strong as he is, he's impossible to bring down and then add in the fact that he knows how to fight on the ground and you got no chance. I wouldn't want to fight him armed with a bat let alone a "fair" fight. Weight classes exist for a reason.

  • @count.3842
    @count.3842 3 месяца назад +4

    meanwhile Mighty Mouse grappling and winning against a 240lb 6'4 guy

    • @gerardogarcia7414
      @gerardogarcia7414 3 месяца назад

      In a gi and executed a specific game plan designed first that intention. Big dif, if you train you should know

    • @LunaticKing-fj3hp
      @LunaticKing-fj3hp 3 месяца назад

      That's a super casual take and the big guy never really put 100% of his weight on him

    • @count.3842
      @count.3842 3 месяца назад

      @@LunaticKing-fj3hp the most cope reply ive ever read

    • @LunaticKing-fj3hp
      @LunaticKing-fj3hp 3 месяца назад +1

      @@count.3842 you ignored the other guy btw also yes it was gi judo mighty was never trying to get pinned to the ground. Like some of these flyweight scrabbles in ufc fights are crazy no way two 300 pounds are gonna be able to flip each other like that

  • @tehf00n
    @tehf00n 3 месяца назад

    He is talking from a perspective of professional fighting of course. Where both fighters know the counters or at least enough to get in there. What I learned from grappling with bigger guys in Judo is you wait for their mistake before you try to get physical. You need the advantage of position and timing and a heavyweight or someone bigger may have the position but no matter who you are, the timing is everything. One mistake can cost you.

  • @JM-cd9vb
    @JM-cd9vb 3 месяца назад +9

    It's your same weight class dude. You've just been playing on easy mode with smaller guys if you're of this opinion.

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад

      Exactly my same thought.

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад

      It should be relative to your size. That’s like saying it’s easier to grapple fly weights as a welterweight, like ya dude .

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад

      Like I don’t think you need to be a heavy weight to know that grappling someone your own size is usually harder than grappling someone smaller. For this to be accurate Tom needs the ability to change weight classes in the snap of the finger so he can compare the actual classes

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад

      Can’t come as a heavy weight and say it’s much harder when I wrestle with people my size so there for heavy weights are the hardest that’s just retarded

    • @dancoy09
      @dancoy09 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@honestlee9921hes eresrled ju jitsu all his life wirh multiple sizes hes also thw heavy weight champ. Like cmon guys the copium levels are insane here, he knows what he is talking about

  • @lolhai6430
    @lolhai6430 3 месяца назад

    He is right

  • @MagicJamster
    @MagicJamster 3 месяца назад +7

    Heavyweight divisions all skill trust

    • @nwbdirge1198
      @nwbdirge1198 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah francis was such a skilled boxer that's why he knocked so many people out right? We'll just forget about AJ though

    • @hillweggs641
      @hillweggs641 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nwbdirge1198exactly

    • @thirtythreeyears
      @thirtythreeyears 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nwbdirge1198an mma fighter vs a boxer in boxing? Dont speak on athletes bum

    • @ekie7473
      @ekie7473 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nwbdirge1198he beat fury dumbass

    • @Shyne282
      @Shyne282 3 месяца назад

      The division where least amount of skill is required

  • @takinasheit
    @takinasheit 3 месяца назад +1

    Im 160s 170s fucking with the heavyweights as much as possible.

  • @big_body_bizinga9049
    @big_body_bizinga9049 3 месяца назад +3

    It doesn’t get easier to take damage as you get bigger, it just gets easier to give out damage.

  • @charlesbrown4483
    @charlesbrown4483 2 месяца назад

    It is different only because the heavyweight class has such a wide weight range. But if two guys are the same size heavyweights then no grappling is not any different than grappling at any other weight class.

  • @bufongodemdabae308
    @bufongodemdabae308 3 месяца назад +3

    It feels like you can’t breathe literally

  • @warriorvarle9975
    @warriorvarle9975 3 месяца назад +2

    Meanwhile mighty mouse subing heavy weight in jiu jitsu

    • @vynd287
      @vynd287 3 месяца назад +1

      That "heavy weight" was an untrained big slop who cant fight

  • @BrandonLopez-lh8ch
    @BrandonLopez-lh8ch 3 месяца назад +9

    Bro just discovered weight difference

    • @Zhort-rk9nd
      @Zhort-rk9nd 3 месяца назад +3

      You're missing the point. He's saying that strength and mass don't increase in a linear fashion.
      It's easier for a 125lb guy to move another 125lb guy that it is for two 250lb guys.

  • @ketaminejones3981
    @ketaminejones3981 2 месяца назад

    Yes, tell me more about how it’s hard to grapple someone you don’t have 60lbs on

  • @georgemassey6001
    @georgemassey6001 3 месяца назад +13

    CTE kicking in hard there.

  • @DJFaNaTiiC
    @DJFaNaTiiC 3 месяца назад

    Weight range is different too. Other weights fighting guys who weighed in the same weight as them the day before, guys like Aspinall who can weigh in 230-250 could match up with blobs hitting the limit at 265.

  • @abugarac4151
    @abugarac4151 3 месяца назад +8

    Dont make it gay

    • @Yb8808
      @Yb8808 3 месяца назад

      😂😂

  • @AlexanderMoen
    @AlexanderMoen 3 месяца назад

    makes sense. As an average person, just think how difficult it is if 250lbs laid on top of you covering you head to toe and didn't let you bench press them off. Then, imagine that person just decided to put all that weight into their knee on your gut or something like that. Even if you're a big dude too, that's not trivial

  • @milod546
    @milod546 3 месяца назад +3

    Dj: nah fuck that

  • @Kidlynno
    @Kidlynno 3 месяца назад

    if you got the technique, you can make it flawless

    • @InFernoKnight95
      @InFernoKnight95 3 месяца назад

      what video games are you talking about?

  • @Ln-vl1nv
    @Ln-vl1nv 3 месяца назад +5

    Mihhty mouse can explain it better fs...

  • @Supbishxoxo
    @Supbishxoxo 3 месяца назад

    100% fact

  • @love-life77738
    @love-life77738 3 месяца назад +6

    He doesnt know what it feels like to have a welter weight on top of him being a welter weight... this is a stupid statement

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 3 месяца назад +3

      Well he might actually, he wasn't always a big dude, he was training in MMA particularly BJJ since he was 7 and he was 5ft8 and much lighter when he was 15, when he turned 16 he hit a massive growth spurt growing into the height of 6ft4½ and the weight did add up. He probably does know to an extent, what if feels like for a 170lb guy to be on top of him as a 170lb guy to an extent

    • @Inaluogh
      @Inaluogh 3 месяца назад +4

      Calm down he could chokeslam you like pro wrestling and you'd still die.

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад

      Exactly hahah I agree

    • @honestlee9921
      @honestlee9921 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Inaluoghwtf lol that has nothing to do with anything

    • @DraymondGreen-qb9wo
      @DraymondGreen-qb9wo 3 месяца назад

      I can tell you’ve never been around heavyweights grappling before

  • @DtmeswitRed
    @DtmeswitRed 3 месяца назад

    Past ncaa wrestler here, I wrestled at 157lbs and when id wrestle our heavyweights id always win.

  • @phillipedwardness9591
    @phillipedwardness9591 3 месяца назад +3

    Wouldn’t it be relative though, like a 60kg guy with a 60kg guy on him would feel like a 100kg guy on a guy that is 100kg?

    • @私はクソな中国人です
      @私はクソな中国人です 3 месяца назад +2

      Nope. 100kg is 100kg. Doesn’t matter if you weigh that or not.

    • @omni-nerdno7191
      @omni-nerdno7191 3 месяца назад +1

      Moving gets harder the bigger you are. It just is. So when you are already a big guy who now has to move another big guy as well it's harder than if you were a lighter weight

    • @phillipedwardness9591
      @phillipedwardness9591 3 месяца назад

      @@omni-nerdno7191 yeah that’s fair, I guess that’s why you don’t see heavyweights move like the bantamweights etc, not as lightning quick etc?

  • @RedNip123
    @RedNip123 2 месяца назад +1

    But is he saying that an 80kg grappling a 110 kilo guy is different than a 50kg dude grappling an 80kg dude?

  • @zionkid420
    @zionkid420 3 месяца назад +1

    Tell that to DC.

  • @vielostrongdikuasa
    @vielostrongdikuasa 3 месяца назад +1

    All small people in the comments are proving what he is saying, you have to be a heavyweight and grapple with heavyweights to know how it feels.
    You would think that between heavyweights the advantage disappears but in that weight class conceding the bottom position for example is desvastating , but in smaller division is more usual from both grapple to switch position during a round. Trust me , between heavyweights with the same skillset and weight , someone gets to side control , you are almost going to finish the round in that position

    • @CRT4Dummies
      @CRT4Dummies 3 месяца назад

      it's easy enough to toss around a 250 pound guy if you have positional advantage on the feet. but like you said, never concede bottom position. big mistake

    • @DamirHadzic-d4q
      @DamirHadzic-d4q 3 месяца назад

      Small people are fuckin' insecure.
      😂😂😂

  • @yaboisquacks2495
    @yaboisquacks2495 3 месяца назад

    he's right. also Heavyweight has a much larger weight gap. you'll have guy's 230 fighting guys 260. and they don't even have to cut weight, they just have to decide how good of shape they want to be in

  • @ap24101988
    @ap24101988 3 месяца назад

    I used to do catch wrestling and one of the guys who helped me weighed 4/5 stone more than me when I was on the ground it was like sandbags on my chest big difference

  • @HyphyJuice916
    @HyphyJuice916 3 месяца назад

    X Ash A12 is ridiculous

  • @jadhdshsveg9843
    @jadhdshsveg9843 3 месяца назад +86

    There a 60 pound difference between heavyweight and light heavyweight crazy

    • @ryanwills7680
      @ryanwills7680 3 месяца назад +4

      Lightheavyweight is 205 heavy weight is 230-280

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 3 месяца назад +45

      ​@@ryanwills7680 Uhhh no 😂... heavyweight is 206lbs-265lbs

    • @nononoyesyesyesyesno2729
      @nononoyesyesyesyesno2729 3 месяца назад +25

      ​@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 most heavyweights weight in around 230-280 (if theyre 280 they cut to 265). Nobody shows at in heavyweight at 206...

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 3 месяца назад +10

      @nononoyesyesyesyesno2729 That's what's allowed and you're wrong, it's actually incredibly rare for a heavyweoght to weight CUT to 265lbs etc. Francis ngannou didn't cut weight when he was in the UFC, only a select few like brock lesnar. Even overeem didn't cut for his fight against brock and he's a massive heavyweight.

    • @jetle-se6lo
      @jetle-se6lo 3 месяца назад +2

      @@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08as far as I’ve seen majority of heavyweight fightd take place at 240 anyways no? I dont think any modern heavyweight is cutting to 265

  • @jitsfitness3233
    @jitsfitness3233 3 месяца назад

    Have you seen Mighty Mouse grapple and slay all these heavyweights in a jiujitsu tournament? Technique is king.

  • @orlandocarrillo7132
    @orlandocarrillo7132 Месяц назад

    For you guys who only lift weights in the gym to try to look big: imagine lifting 80kg bench press or squat 5 reps. Now do it with 110kg. That's more or less the difference. Or if you can do 100kg bench then its like lifting 140 instead.

  • @erdngtn9942
    @erdngtn9942 3 месяца назад +2

    After considering this, can anyone think of a khabib like heavyweight grappler in mma? Closest I can get is that Josh Barnett guy but even he used strikes as often as anyone else. Am I missing anyone? And not sure nogera counts as real heavyweight

  • @ayro0638
    @ayro0638 3 месяца назад

    He said the same thing like 4 different ways

  • @johnnyjonesiii6275
    @johnnyjonesiii6275 2 месяца назад

    He’s right. It’s just so tiring having a heavyweight on you that your ability is really cut in half because you have to rest after doing the smallest transition. Even though you may be strong moving all that weight against its will is impossible. When I grappled my super heavyweight my focus was... sry I know nothing

  • @Aampi
    @Aampi 2 месяца назад

    It’s relative that’s a why there’s weight classes

  • @uwotm8634
    @uwotm8634 3 месяца назад

    That's why the lower weight classes require more skill, especially FLW, people don't give those guys enough credit because they're not as popular

  • @TreyTheDestroyer
    @TreyTheDestroyer 21 день назад

    Wouldn't Tom aspinal having a heavyweight on top of him be the same as a smaller guy having a smaller person on them? Is a heavyweight heavier to another heavyweight than a lightweight is to a lightweight?

  • @seantomlinson2505
    @seantomlinson2505 3 месяца назад

    I think it's the power to weight ratio which starts dramatically decreasing the heavier you get

  • @jeremylamovsky9868
    @jeremylamovsky9868 3 месяца назад +1

    Not saying hes necessarily wrong, but does he know what its like to be 80 kilo grappling with someone whos also 80 kilo? The only difference is in that division you may be going against someone thats a good bit heavier

  • @atlanticatmosphere6695
    @atlanticatmosphere6695 2 месяца назад

    This is where the “mma math” makes sense.

  • @tavismacdonald7759
    @tavismacdonald7759 3 месяца назад

    Its 100% true. Techique wins but you need to be quite a bit better to out " weigh" the heavier man

  • @ADMartinGolf
    @ADMartinGolf 2 месяца назад

    As a 80 kilo guy with a teacher that’s 110 kilos I can confirm its not easy at all