Kidney Disease In Cats: Top Holistic Remedies
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Discover the most effective holistic remedies for managing kidney disease in cats. Dr. Andrew Jones reveals his top natural treatments that can help improve kidney function and enhance your cat's quality of life. From diet adjustments to herbal supplements, learn how you can support your feline friend with safe and vet-approved strategies. Don't miss these valuable insights to care for your cat with kidney disease holistically.
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My cat passed away yesterday aged 17. She had CKD diagnosed when she was 11 years old. Unfortunately she became very sick over the past 2 weeks and there was nothing more they could do. It's still very raw atm so I'm watching many cat videos to make sure I did right by her. This video was so thorough and sort of therapeutic to watch. Thank you
You're welcome and I am so sorry for your loss.
My kitty was diagnosed today. ): he’s 20yrs old. I’m 22, we’ve had a lot of time together But I’m not ready to let him go. I’d love another 6 years with him and I’m amazed you were able to sustain her that long. What did you do to treat your baby I’d do anything for some advice. I’m heart broken.
@casey rhodes
I know this is very shocking and saddening news at the beginning but there are things you can put in place. Making sure your cat is hydrated, so putting water sources around the house also the vet may have spoken to you about a kidney safe diet. Although your cat is 20 don't lose hope he or she will just need adjustment in food, water possible medication if the vet recommends. You love your cat and I know the feeling you're going through, you're probably thinking about your cat at all parts of the day and you will probably be enjoying something but you remember it again but you're doing the right thing by researching and this video I watched really helped.
@@sfazal4116 thank you so much. That meant a lot to me. I have hope for my little baby. Appreciate u
@@Spyroup i AM SO SORRY, 22 AND YOUR CAT HAS BEEN A PART OF YOUR LIFE FOR 20 YEARS, THE THOUGHT OF THE LOSS JUST BREAKS MY HEART. THEN THE FACT YOU WERE HONORED WITH THE PRESENCE OF THEM FOR 20 YEARS WARMS THE HEART. I WISH YOU STRENGTH. DON'T LET THIS DAMPER THE TIME YOU HAVE LEFT TOGETHER. STAY HAPPY, MUCH LOVE TO YOU
Honestly, I feel like I have gotten 10x more info from you, than any vet I have paid for. I wish I could financially reward you for all that you do. I am going to make sure I watch every one of your videos!
That's so true! I have saved so much since I discovered this channel. We can support Dr. Jones by buying his supplements. I tried his dog supplement for my pup! I got them here: drjonesnaturalpet.com/
We can also watch his videos without skipping the 30sec ads. I think that's how RUclipsrs earn. I also share his videos in pet groups I joined - that way more people will learn from his videos.
Yeah, he helped me more than any of the vets I visited.
Yes, more information and they work!!!!!
Vets are drug and food salemen! They will never share how to treat naturally
Same here. Every time I went to the vet with a concern they would only treat what they could test for, even with his entire history. And I'm a vigilant owner. I was disappointed they couldn't help me a little without 800 tests every damn visit at minimum.
This was more useful than I could’ve ever imagined. Literally life saving advice
Happy to hear this!
Here's a tip to increase water intake: My cat loves drinking water out of human drinking glasses, so I got a dozen of those old-fashioned short cocktail glasses--I think they're called "rocks" or "on the rocks" glasses--at my local no-kill-shelter--supporting thrift store, Angels With Paws, for 50 cents each. Every morning, I put out six glasses of filtered water (one for each preferred napping spot) and run the previous day's water glasses through the dishwasher. Smushie is drinking a lot more now!
I do the same, she adores "sneaking water".
That's hysterical and SO true! Mine likes to drink out of my glasses and these cute, tiny dishes that are used for fine dinning- u can find tiny bowls and wee & shot glasses & they drink out of them, too! Lol
They're called low ball glasses. The tall ones are high ball. Please don't ask me why I have this info stored in my brain. 😆😆😆
Mine too. Lol
I read about few tips too and works well: fresh water bowl daily, I place at least 3 around house. They don't like it next to their food, and where ever you put it, they should be able to walk around it. I also give her water by syringe, often time with remedies. Lately she loves "Solid Gold Bone broth", I just give to her with water in them.
I was sceptical about the formula but I have to say that after 2 weeks my 16yo ckd cat is doing really well on it and I'm very grateful to you.
Hi Dr A Jones, thank God you have the courage to stand your ground & push the boundaries for natural treatments for animals. I have an 18 1/2 yr old feline on meds for kidney issues, on meds for thyroid & high blood pressure, and just discovered you, we live in Melbourne Australia, it’s very difficult to find vets like you, I’m trying to follow your instructions. I honour your passion for what is right & your sacrifice to go it alone & and be an inspiration to others who come after you. Blessings to you and you family. 🙏💜🦘🦘💜🙏🙏
My furry buddy Mike just transitioned today. I never liked cats until we got him 19 years. He was so affectionate and i feel like we lost a family member .😢😢
You did.
@@cathy-70❤
Thank you for making the ultimate feline! I started ordering it and putting it in gelatin capsules and I just had to put him to sleep Dec 26 of 2022 I sincerely believe you gave him the extra 5 years ❣️❣️
Glad to hear this wonderful news 😊
120 ml LRS per day, switching to canned Rx renal diet & using phosphorus binder has extended my boys’ lives by at least 18 mos. I’m so very lucky they are hangin in there. Very special dudes. ❤️
How are they. My boy was diagnosed today. I’d do anything for some advice please. I’m so heart broken
@@Spyroup GOD. Bless.you.and.your.cat
@@bertekroth5365AMEN!
I gave my cat subcutaneous fluids for a year..it wasn't fun but it's doable and I did get more time with her..love this channel
What is that
Intravenous fluids but not in the vein only in the skin @@reginaredwood1273Like
@@reginaredwood1273 it's like IV. Same fluids. NS or RL but they are not given through veins instead given through injecting a scalp vein in the top tissue/skin
Can it be given to healthy cat too?
@@monikalazic-selic8509 You wouldn't need to. It's given when a cat is dehydrated.
Happy to find your channel. My 18 yo kitty had kidney disease. She was always a small skinny cat and I thought she just liked water. Never mentioned it to my vet. Guess I'm lucky she lived so long. She ate mostly wet food and half cooked chicken thighs.
My cat passed away last week at 26 years old. She was diagnosed CKD on last January 2023.she is indoor cat and i missed her badly.
26 is amazing. A testament to your care and love.
Sorry for you lost 😢
Can i ask you what diet food for your cat
Condolences for you loss ❤️🩹. We just found out our 12 yr old has CKD. Was released from hospital after 4 days.
So sorry for your loss but I have to say 26 years is amazing and I’d love to hear what you fed your cat . Thanks!
What is your secret to raising a cat fto 26 years?
Our family loves you ❤ My friends husky had surgery yesterday to remove an enormous tumor the other day! Your an absolute god send. I’ve just started making my own cat and dog food because of your knowledge.
USP Grade methylene blue and ck out Ellis Water
My cat is unwell and I am watching this video.
Thank you for sharing.
We eliminated kibble many years ago. So we always use canned varieties but in addition we add 3mils or more of water to the serving on his plate to make it soupier which gives a nice increase in hydration. We also avoid cat foods that use carragenan (a know carcinogen) as a thickening agent and there is also controversy regarding cans that have BPA lining.--Thank you for the recommendation of choosing the lower protein varieties in the 10% range.
I do this too, only ever feed wet food 96 percent human grade meat with 4 percent of a healthy carb like carrots or blueberries and even though the food itself is mostly water by default I always add some hot water to make it meaty and soupy and warm like a fresh kill, lol. Happy healthy cat with no dental issues either :) I don't understand how people think that kibble scrapes off tartar, that's like thinking that we could keep our teeth clean by eating doritos. 😂
I’m so scared right now! My cat Shelby hasn’t been eating or drinking for two days straight and sleeping constantly! She is 15 years old! She hasn’t lived long enough!!! Please pray for her🙏🏼
Hey! you should take to her to a vet, she can get some treatment.
Ivan Silva she passed away Friday May 17😭 there was nothing they could do
Mir&Mere
Heartfelt sympathy on your loss, little Shelby is in the arns of Jesus, All Creation returns to The Creator. So be comforted knowing her life continues in Heaven.
If you want to read any books about this theres Susi Pittman whos written several, she also part of a group who run a website "Catholic Stewards of Creation" & they have many beautiful testimonues & a question & answer section.
Its not specifically for Catholics because we're All Gods Creation..:)
Little Shelby was so loved, you will meet her one day when you return to Heaven...X
J.M. Cass that was so sweet! You made my day! May god bless you💕
Mir&Mere
God blessed you with Shelby & Shelby with you..🙏🏻🐾🌻💖
Doc. Great job. You can tell you are very passionate and truly care for animals ❤
Murray seems so angry yet so chill at the same time 😂
Yes...he is a cat with personality
It's incredibly common because the feline distemper vaccine is cultivated in feline kidney tissue, and there is research out there connecting the two. Eventually an autoimmune response develops. Makes sense too because cats have already lost 70% of kidney function at diagnosis, so they've already been losing function over time. It also explains why even young cats can develop CKD. Please don't vaccinate for distemper if at all possible, or CKD will eventually develop.
Can you fix it?
i don't think my cat has had distemper and she still got it
@@kite6864 Where did you get your cat?
@@leejennifercorlewayres9193 I don't think so. I've researched this everywhere, as to how to undo a vaccine.
@@tailzzzzz a neighbor gave her to my family over 10 years ago
i am the proud friend of two very senior cats. documented proof .one is 32 yr old female calico ," Kali"and other is atleast 24 yr old male tuxedo , "Sylvester" . they have been with my family since 1988. and 97. sylvester was a mature adult full male when he wandered into our property in 97. Kali was a kitten in 1988 at a rodeo arena .my Mom rescued her and she has only left our property twice in her life. im 50 now and inherrited the family farm. my folks are still doin well but moved to a quieter area north of us.
here's the realy crazy part . these cats never got any fancy food or much vet care .(never needed help )they have eaten purina cat chow in the yellow bag forever. i thought it was bad food but my cats ate expensive fancy food and had vet care and still died at 16 and 17yrs old of kidney failure. these two seniors are just now starting to show sings of kidney distress.. i love them dearly .i will use this advice to help them out.
If your cats were never vaccinated, maybe that is why they lived longer than most cats.
Very useful information - thank you!
Here is a tip to get your kitty to drink more: Use multiple watering stations, keep them fresh and position them all around, not near the food bowls. Position one of them within sight of your favorite spot to hang out (sofa in front of the teevee?) - My cats drink out of this one all the time. They want you to be there to watch over them while they drink, similar to a mother cat taking the cubs to the drinking hole. My theory anyway.
Try it! It works.
YES! I agree with all of this! I have 4 watering areas for my cats
1 has the kidney problem
But wont.touch wet food.
My cat has been getting a lot more water by me mixing it into the canned wet food to make more of a paste than a pate 😂 it looks gross but at least works
@user-ul1xq2db4f I do that too
Thank you so much for these tips. You have a wonderful calm, kind, energy. Wishing you many blessings.
Thanks
Thank you so much! My kitty who is 17, was diagnosed with kidney disease and I have noticed all those symptoms. I knew about not giving her kibble but I didn't know to give her a low protein canned food. I also didn't know about the other medicines and fish oil to give her. I do give her subcutaneous fluids. And when she gets the fluid she instantly feels better. I also will order your supplement.
May i ask, what do you mean bt subcutaneous fluids? And how do you give this to your cat? Thank you.
@@sparklebox11seek Dr Becker. Veterinarian videos
Dont quote me but I thought it was supposed to be high protein low phosphorus..then im seeking videos by VETERINARIAN DR BECKER 🏆👍
Thank You!! deeply appreciate..all your advice.. ❤️🌺
I learned more in this video than in multiple hours of research. Thank you! And what a wonderful vet you must be. Great with Murray, for sure.
You’re most welcome! Glad the video was helpful.
Thank you doctor for all that you bring to us and educate us on.
You're very welcome 😊
Did the ear flush on one of my dogs yesterday, so easy to do and he's much better! Thanks for the videos, glad I found your channel.
Thanks
Great video! You know you stuff
Thank you Dr, my cat was just diagnosed with Kidney Disease today. I really appreciate the information.
My cat was just hospitalized due to urinary infecrion cant get under control. Had to sign papers to surrender him to be adopted out because cant afford the vet bill. Been in tears all day along with my daughter. It all happened soo fast and was unexpected. Getting through the day is soo hard without wanting to break down again.
So sorry.could they not give you time to pay. 😢
@@cynthiastogden7000 nope to be honest i think they wanted my cat. There was a lot of red flags and they all loved my cat and called him pretty kitty. I will no longer go to that vet again
I have never heard of such a thing before, that is horrible. I am so sorry.
Feeling BLUCKY! I love that word! Great info. Thanx Dr. Jones!
My cats health turned around a lot after I took her off dry kibble, even the best brands, Royal Canin and Hills was a no go for her, she can’t digest it. It makes them drink too much and she was always thirsty and using litter tray. My Vet said, just wet high quality canned or wet food, which is working. She’s happier too, loving her food. Her Thyroid is normal now and CKD has improved. I also give her Omega 3 Fish Oil by dribbling some in her food. It’s anti inflammatory so helps too. Antinol Rapid for cats is amazing as well. She’s going to start Milk Thistle for her liver and Kidney support. Quality life is better than length for them. Thank you 🙏 your video is great. Im in Tasmania and she’s on grain free, including no potatoes, rice or anything to add carbs. I use VIP wet cat food, Advance and I give her commercial raw canned as toppers. Some Chicken thighs for variety as a treat and I filter her water. ❤️
Glad you got your cat off kibble before it totally wreak havoc to your cat’s health. Thank you for sharing your experience and some tips!
My cat of 13 yrs has CKD and howls everyday after eating. Thank you for showing me what I can do to help her.
Do not give your cat dry food. Dry food is really bad for cats with kidney disease.
Feline Renal Support from Standard Process is magic.
We love holistic remedies. Milk Thistle can help to detoxify and maintain kidney function 💪🥰
Tell me moreee
It’s great for liver. You do have to be careful if wild oregano oil ,is an alcohol base ,as anything else.
I went to Heath food store and paid 27$ for teeny bottle of Collidial Silver,and 14.00 for 4 times more ,at National Nutrition. I told them about Dr Jones .The management was excellent,and they found him on line and I said recommend this guy he’s saved my cat ,and your going to get more business I think,plus he’s Canadian.🙂
So my daughter bought baby food organic,but it has barley. Not ok with kidney disease.
Great tips, i’m going to start using the antacid you suggest. i’m using phosphorus binder called Epikatin, Mirtazapine gel in the ear for appetite, iron sup for anemia (for 2 weeks) and sub w fluids, using the “shebang” method , i.e., using 60 ml syringes to draw the subq fluid bag and then pushing that into extension IV which makes administration of the fluids take less than a minute if you get good at it (far easier using two people). i bought kidney support gold and will slowly add that in to see if that helps with creatine and urea levels. been giving him oral syringes of omega 3s too, and i will aim for daily dose you recommend. Thank you for making this video. you helped me help my cat today. i don’t know why my vet didn’t recommend the pepcid and it was me who figured out the fish oil via a flyer at mudd bay, written by mudd bay’s vet. she also recommends B12 for nausea. you can sprinkle nutritional yeast on cats food. my cats are OK with the taste.
Paula Sutton May i ask what stage yours is?
Thank you for another great video. Cats like to hide when they're sick and my cat started hiding when I started working full-time and I didn't notice that he wasn't around as often I also noticed he drink a lot of water. Well I ended up finding him after work under my bed throwing up. And then rushed him to the hospital where he stayed the night. I picked him up in the morning they told me to go straight to my family vet and keep the heat on high for it was cold outside so that's what I did. He spent another night at a he spent the night at my vets and the next day he turned for the worst. Oops forgot to tell you the hospital had told me he has sugar diabetes and since he wouldn't eat they could not regulate how much medicine to give him I guess. He was a beautiful orange long haired cat his name was Rascals and I to this day have not replaced him it's been over 10 years. Every animal I own ends up to be very special and everybody else wants my pets :-) so drinking too much water can also be sugar diabetes. Thanks for reading this message you've been so great to the world
Thanks.
How can water makes diabetes for cats? Its Zero calory though... Please explain to me
I'm not sure but ,if anyone else is searching for
natural kidney health
try Franaar Healthy Kidney Formula (just google it ) ? Ive heard some amazing things about it and my cousin got amazing results with it.
My kitty died a couple weeks ago from renal failure and pancreatitis. He was also diabetic. He was one of a litter of six that I kept 17 years ago. His sister, and the last of the litter was recently released from the hospital after staying 10 days. She also has renal failure and pancreatitis. I started her on the prescription kidney wet food but the vet said the kibble is okay for her. Don't know if that's right.
Elizabeth Salvage I’m so sorry.
I’m going through cancer treatment again. My cat has signs of kidney issues. He’s 17. I love him dearly and will follow all your advice including your supplements. My one question is which type of sub q fluids do you give? I have access to the type they give me at my infusions to flush my port. You’re an angel for posting these helpful and very informative videos. Thank you.
Owen Wilson is a vet now?
He had his nose fixed too! ha! ;-) Thanks for watching!
@@VeterinarySecrets your better looking!!!
@@a.stewart2641 haha. Thank you, kind human.
He must have found out how much money they make. Took my cat to the vets, two extractions and a clean.... £543.
@@VeterinarySecrets How do i get a private talk with u, i have tried everything with no answer ( important )
Idk how you feel about raw food but our cat lived an additional 6 years after we switched her to a raw food diet. She passed away 2 mos shy of her 20th birthday ❤
This might be helpful to some of you...at least, I hope so! I have a 21-year-old cat diagnosed with advanced CKD 4 years ago, with good and bad days. When he starts to lose his appetite, I give him 1-2 Churu treats (he loves the scallop recipe), which increases his appetite so much (and quickly) that he mews at me for two days wanting breakfast and dinner again - it's a miracle! They also give him a burst of energy, which I don't see unless he's on Churu's - he jumps up on the back of the couch, runs across it, makes biscuits everywhere, and basically hops around for a day or two almost like he did when he was a kitten. I also give him fresh water twice daily, which the vet said is super important. I asked her what to expect, timing-wise (I can even type it), and she said 1.5-3 years, so I believe the secret lies somewhere in the Churu 'kitty crack.'
Also cats maybe lions too wont eat if they cant smell their food. Loss of smell doesnt have to be a cold, runny nose, respiratory..loss of smell can be from anything with that said when my 19yr old cat wont eat i *gently smear her wet food on her mouth and a little on her little pink nose she smells the Raw rabbit n goes yum yum 😂 and starts eating again..this has happened twice in past year once was she got chilled i left bedroom window cracked in AZ winter and then last summer UTI from her mild to medium kidney insufficiency. Highly recommend everybody get their pets on mitochondria drops
I will try your holistic remedies! I am so glad I found your channel recently. Two of my male cats, Marble and Napoleon have kidney disease and are on prescription food. I give Napoleon sub q fluids twice a week. Anya who is 20, has been losing weight the past year. I will take her for blood work to check levels. Right now my cats have healthy appetites. Thank you for your help!
Thanks Frances
Hello again, update on my Acute kidney renal disease cat. He survived it so far and hes moving and playing and trying to walk again straight up. First two weeks no help no doctors so I got educated on it and went all in on using small amount of potassium and vitamin E, D, B12, for starters and fresh water with ice every two hours. He almost died 3 times and once by me. So glad I didnt take him in for euthanasia trust your heart but the cat will tell you when. Read their eyes and talk to them. Thanks doc
Another update- Naddy my cat with acute kidney disease is still fighting he's walking and really clingy that part scares me and he gets his pain meds 1 time a day. I want him walking and getting water. I see that he's tired and it's been rough on us both. But he's not in pain and if I let him he will eat 3 cans of cat food easy. He's a big eater was 19lbs now he's at best 10 lbs. He's greating me at the door every night and if he doesn't mean he's having a bad day which has platued now. I've cried many days many nights even cursing good him self for such cruel punishment he must go through I've even ask to go with him. .........hmmmmmm no answer amagine that.
My life will never be the same again once he is gone. He is my one and only true best friend someone who loves me who doesn't judge or criticises he just wants me. I know he's scared and I too am scared for him. I want him in my arms when he takes his last breath to know he wasn't alone. No matter the pain it is to watch I would bleed out my eyes with anger if I'm not with him. He's never done anything wrong never killed never breed never distroyed my home he's my God he's Naddy my cat friend or son
@after math
It's awful is in it ? I mean his personality is kinda there. And he is now losing eye sight from blood pressure going to high. He's only gone out side 4x in his life and 2 of those was at the vet in the last 2 months. He eats and drinks and I give him pain meds once a day he's a light weight. Went from 19 lbs down to 9.25 lbs. Worse part is he has these night tremors where he those his whole body off my legs like contraplating his own death in his sleep. He will do this 4 maybe 5x a night. What kinda of signs and side effects is she having little baby girl. So so so sorry for you and her it's a nightmare just keep that water fresh and available every place she will most likely be. I had 4 water holes for Naddy and changed them with fresh if possible every 3rd hour. Use bottle water if you can. Nice and cold. Tap water has to many metal iron in it plus water ever bleach used to kill bacteria. Bottle but then change it every 6th hour.
I so appreciate your videos. This one especially since I recently lost my 17 year old Kitty to renal failure and pancreatitis. He was also diabetic. His sister is going through the same thing although she does not have diabetes. She's home after 10 days in the hospital with a cold now, and we're trying to get her health back up there again. She's on prescription food and the vet said prescription kibble was okay also. I don't know if this is correct but I'm grateful she's eating the wet food since she was not a fan of it before.
no kibble, no Temptation treats as it will make your cat sicker
Yes I was giving kibble too
and told that it was okay it was a special formula. But I only use it for a tiny treats never for a meal only wet food with water on it
@@thedareneewilliams8360
Fancy Feast Pate canned cat food...
Avoid dry cat food..
Best info I have ever heard
Thanks! Please feel free to share the video. 🙂
My cat is 3 and he has bad kidneys. He throws up constantly and will literally sit over his water bowl all day. Thanks for telling me about the canned food thing. I hope he gets better or at least lives a while longer.
Welcome- hope this helps
Try looking into raw diet, commercial food does a lot of damage to the organs over time
My cat is only 5 and got diagnosed with ckd but shes on special food that should help her live a little longer, but this was really helpful it made me take her to the vet thank you so much
but never give her dry food again, please
How is your baby doing. Mine was diagnosed yesterday. I’d love all the advice I can get. I hope yours is well.
@@Spyroup she sadly passed away last year, but with the treatments i got from the vet she did end up living a lot longer than we expected. i hope your cat is doing okay and does well
I make chicken heart smoothies with hot boiled water in a magic bullet with a small bit of liver (for flavor). The hearts are considered muscle meat and the liver is organ meat (so use less). I limit 6-7 hearts per cat per day (to keep sodium low) . I buy raw chicken hearts and livers, freeze them in chunks in the freezer, then put 6-7 frozen hearts MAX per cat per day, with a tiny bit of frozen liver piece (about half a pinky finger) in the magic bullet. I pour boiling water over them till almost covering and blend till smooth and watery, almost like soup-porridge. Pour into a cat bowl and then put it in the micro for about 20 seconds to take off the chill. I can put some of those vitamins in then too after it has been warmed . They just lap it up.
My 15 yr old Leo was sadly diagnosed w CKD last April along with pancreatitis, asthma, IBD & now diabetes from the Budesonide Steroids for he’s IBD. He’s feeding regemine is Weruva can food 2x daily mixed w probiotics, lysine & prozymes. I give him sub q fluids every 3rd day & he’s finally back on track. He gets insulin Morn/night 12 hrs. You would never know that Leo was a very sick cat. He’s doing well & continues to thrive! CKD affects cats differently so it’s important for owners to have a great Vet to follow Care.
So true and Thanks for sharing- good for you for give SubQ fluids
Veterinary Secrets is it true that high protein diets are safe for cats suffering from CKD? I recently started giving Leo a high protein kibble w no grains or carbs & he’s seems to be adjusting well but on he’s recent blood test showed elevated kidney levels again. My vet recommended increasing fluids & to put him on renel supplements from vetri science. Is this enough?
Yeah I switched to wellness and my cat is liking it.
Lactulose/Enulose for my senior Kitty along with a bit of miralax in her food. ❤ She's around 17. Love her SO much. She is always hollering for food & I feed her, too! Very finicky eater, but she gets wet food now. She dries out and gets constipated, the lactulose & miralax helps.
Wish they had a dialysis machine for cats & dogs for home. I'd do it, as long as she's comfortable and keeping her alive isn't making her suffer more...
My cat had constipation n cannot urinate , last week his bladder get ruptured . now he looks healthy at the vet but i'm so scared went i took my cat home his stool will becoming hard again n the urine not coming out
Thank you so very much. I have an 18 year old snow shoe siamese and he just got diagnosed. He had a bit of blood in his urine and was drinking a bit more than usual. I took him in to see his vet and got the news. I am hopeful that your suggestions keep him going a bit longer.
I also have a snowshoe and she's 17 y.o. she was diagnosed with CKD at 15 and my vet didn't think she'd live to see 16. But she's still with me. I have her on a couple of supplements and she's been in hill k/d wet food. She has her ups and downs. How's your cat doing?
How is your baby. I need help for mine. I’m so devastated. I hope yours is well.
Dr Jones
It's so reassuring listening to your advice & gentle concern for all our pets.
I have a 19 year old neutered female. She has a long furry coat, due to dental extractions she has 1 tooth left but eats well, she dislikes Hills KD so will not eat it. So she eats Purina Gold cans in the pate variety & Sheba flakes which i break up for her. Shes lost alot of weight in the last year she's now 1.84kg.
She cannot groom herself which causes her fur to knot tightly.
This year she needed 2 visits to vets to have the knots shaved out, as theyre pulling her skin. She becomes very anxious stressed & her bones are so prominent that during the recent visit 2 weeks ago the vet nurse accidentally mustve hurt her as she screeched, jumped out of her arms & weed herself, they continued gently used Feliway to calm her & underneath in her groin there were 2 skin tears as her skin is like tissue paper. So the Vet used skin glue.
Her eyes have been fully dilated & blood test earlier this year showed start of kidney changes but not high levels. It wasnt possible for vet to get much blood due to her veins, a few dats after that visit we thought she had a turn she became bit wobbly & had blood in her right eye, dark red colour behind the whole cornea.
We took her to vet immediately, she checked mobility legs were ok but the vet wasnt sure why the eye was bloody so prescribed Fortekor 2.5mg for hypertension.
Shes doing well on it but her left eye has also changed to this blood red & both are more raspberry colour now with cloudy opaque appearance.
Shes showing signs of sight loss as she finds her way around but circles when not sure which way to go.
There is an eye Vet 25 miles from me but i dont want to put the cat through tests as she's very frail & sleeps alot.
Do you think she has hyperthyroidism as she hasnt the smelly breath from kidney disease.
As the bloody colour has become less dark would it gradually clear from the eyes. The pupils are still fully dilated.
She's a feisty little cat & was very healthy all her life, & much loved in a household of 6 cats..
At this age what's best for her in medicine & supplements.
Many thanks & God bless you. .From Ireland
I just learned my cat has early stages of this kidney disease. I immediately put her on renal k potassium, d manna for her urinary tract. And only feed her a brand called wereruva wet cat food. They specialize in no phosphorus high hydration wet foods. And low protein! I hope this helps. I also invested in a fountain and a quick hot kettle. Sometimes ill add more warm water to her wet food. Totally eliminated dry food and no treats anymore unfortunately i used to give her cheese here and there and small dollops of cream. Not anymore.
Do you give her omega 3-fish oil too? I see people mentioning omega 3&6
Small water enemas also work very well for hydration. My dog started having kidney disease, diagnosed from vet as well, and I'm telling you, I did everything the vet said, bought they're expensive ass crappy left over human food that's blended and canned. she got worse from following what the vet said to do. So I did my own research, and like this guys says, Less protein, I cook her food now, and she gets literally 4-6 25 ml water enemas ( been using distilled and 7ph kangen water ). She stopped sleeping all day, she runs and jumps. I had bought her ramps and stairs for all the furniture, she still prefers to jump, shes only 6.6 pounds. Shes tiny, but mighty;)- any chihuahua lovers out there should get the movie referende;) because i'm also talking about my 15yr old chihuahua. This info isn't just for cats, good info for both dogs and cats. Not too sure about the phosphorus yet, I'll be researching that for sure. But less protein. More water...my dog literally came back to life, like shes 5-7years younger. ♡♡♡
All great info, but at stage 3 CKD it’s a struggle to get my cat to eat anything so adding any powder or supplement to her food means she will never eat.
Sub Q fluids do wonders in extending CKD cats.
Thank you very much.
What percentage should the Phosphorus be on the canned food? Can you recommend a high quality canned food that is good for cats with CKD? Do you have a homemade recipe that would work as well? Thank you!
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Even if cats are not yet senior, some are already having kidney issues. My sister's cat died at age 8 and my mom's cat died at 9 and both suffered from kidney disease.
I have read that feeding your cats or dogs raw kidneys will help take the burden off of their kidneys bye adding the glandular substances their kidneys normally produce into their Systems. That gives their own kidneys a chance to heal. There is also a great dry kidney product you can buy. I have only found one, bye Pet-Go, called Reno-Go. It’s a good quality product, and my dog and cat love the flavor.
I can't find that anywhere. Do you have a link or more info?
@@Yeskeya @Susan Patrie This link has many good supplements, including Rena Go. (I'm sorry for misspelling the name in my original post.)
www.pet-grub.com/pet-supplements/
The Pet-Grub web site as a whole is very good for guiding us in keeping our pets healthy and strong through proper nutrition.
Another supplement that has helped many cats with kidney issues is Uromax. You can get it on Amazon here:
www.amazon.com/UroMAXX-Urinary-Kidney-Bladder-Formula/dp/B00198SSMO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=uromax&qid=1609566637&sr=8-1
The customer reviews on this product are very encouraging. I give it to my healthy dog and cat as a preventative.
I hope this helps.
Gussie and Murray - i love it :} 🌷
thank you. the only problem is - no cats of mine with CKD wanted to eat any of the prescription canned foods for CKD.
My vet's technician said those fluids are too painful for a cat. They won't see her any more for the shots (electrolytes and B or B12 vitamis )because it stresses her out too much. I feel abandoned 😞
I hope you sought out a different vet.
Last week, it took me, and two vet techs, to restrain my cat and administer sub fluids to my 8 year old formerly stray cat.
A few days later, I tried it at home with a neighbor who is a vet asst, it was a struggle but we got most of the fluids in.
Yesterday, me and my sister tried it but were unsuccessful. He just put up too much of a fight!
I decided not to do this anymore. It’s stresses him and and it stresses me out.
My cat is in her 18th yr, still like a kitten mostly, but noticed these symptoms recently. Sabbath is already weaned off kibble, drinking lots, but now I'll take your advice. I'm gunna go with the low protein food, and ordering that supplement. Thx Dr. Jones
Thanks Pamela
Please get bloodwork done sweetie.Check to see if her phosphorous in her blood and her creatinine and B.U.N. is its initials, it is blood urea nitrogen, is elevated too high,or way too high.I believe for BUN and for creatinine something like 16 to 33 and I think B.U.N. is numbers & creatinine is like 2.7. To 3.3 or so is high end of normal maybe.Especially with a cat who does have CKD.They normally will live 2 or 3 years even up to 7 years and live their full life and die from other natural causes they just need ongoing preventative care to slow the progression and normally they will go on a long time.There's a cheap online herbal holistic type med for about $30 maybe for 2 month supply 2 pills a day u can just sprinkle on food & is tasteless odorless & vet will give prescription phosphorous blocker like several month supply for 30 or 40 $'s, its all pretty cheap, & the vet gives a prescription so you can buy cat or dog food that's under 5% phosphorous from pet smart or your vet etc,&just show the card he gives you get all u meet,they the BUN and Creatinine,not being given proper info or directions on that is what cost my mama kitties life,& she had just gotten diagnosed 2-3 months prior still had 30+% of her kidney use it was a waste.Paid real good money,said how we r willing to do whatever needs done,1 vet refused to do anything except said he'd be willing put her down,other one mostly great but failed to give the most fundamental info & instruction.Gabe us a girl in training for a CKD patient not a boss or experienced person. We did the low oh is food,found Aminavast online ourselves,& fed babyfood,broth & water in a dropper until she finally ate on her own,then drank & pee'd twice her normal.They did teach us do water subcutaneous under skin at home,but we did 2 bottles in 6 days,then her phos went from 9.2 deathly high to 4.5 well within normal in 6 days,& the creatinine & BUN went down 40% but was still half too high.We asked several times & never was explained how u reduce the BUN & crea etc. She was kicking major butt,best of all bout 6 weeks in.All she needed was one water nag good for 3 days water at home each week to use as needed,& the needles & lines u need to do it cost maybe 5$ total.Then u can do 1 day to 3 days a week use your own judgement she probably would lived 3 years plus not 8 to 10 weeks.She had 30% + left & they do surprising well on 6 or 8%.Just do the phosphorous blocker vet gives & 'script for low phos. food,& we pureed & fed in a dropper so a third or half her food was that then let her eat what she wanted vet said its fine let them eat while they can by all means & that subcutaneous water is fairly easy & not painful for them at all just uncomfortable or irritable for them.Just spend $20-$30 a month max & have 1 bag a week with extra needle or 2 & lines with 1 or 2 extra lines is they plug a little or become difficult sometimes.Just give 2 bags = 6 times at or st in 6 or 8 days or so,then have 1 nag a week on hand & do once a week like Mon or Tuesday then just go with what u feel is right up to 2 times or use whole bag that week 3 times.They told us do the 2 bags at home,didn't explain exactly what it was fpr, & made next appt 6 in The away.I told my mom we should get more water & do bloodwork again in 4 weeks at me ven 3 cuz its so early in disease & we till learning.She saw 6 month away next appt & said it must be Oh,&wait 2 or even 3 on th.She was kicking butt all on th & at 6 weeks was major kicking butt them week later declined & in 3 days almost no eat & little bit water & go in her numbers so high that quickly she isn't survive.She only needed the wAter to live for years yet.The BUN & creatinine is like ammonia & toxins & is what makes urine smell ow it does & the cat per the kidneys use water to go through kidneys & flush out the ammonia & toxins in pee,then kidneys ate working less so cats gotta drink up to 3 or even 4 imes as much to get it all flushed out & they just can't keep up.So without nuff water the kidneys don't flush enough and if her breath smells real bad u know the ammonia & toxins r staying in her tummy & intestines & will make ulcers in mouth u see blood & saliva mixed & it ruins her tummy.All they need is that subcutaneous water 1 bag a week available & the low phos food and phos blocker and Aminavast 2 times a day both odorless and tasteless just sprinkle on food
How is your cat doing. My baby needs help. I’m doing everything I can
@@Spyroup....so sorry to hear that...Sabbath lived on to 20 yrs.....she passed away 3 yrs ago...this is a very old comment.....We can only do what we can, and no matter what, just know, your cat loves you ❤ 💕 💓 💖
Extremely wonderful video WOW. Thank you for your work.
I use nettle seed (not the leaf or root-the seed) for kidney failure both for humans and pets.. a formula is best with some schisandra berry as well to tonify the kidneys and some marshmallow root to lubricate
Hey Urban Herbalist - Thank you for mentioning the herbs and marshmallow. I've got them all at home, but am wondering if you could let me know how, do you make a tincture, or just include the ground herbs? Thank you so much.
Excellent Demo.Thanks Dr
Thanks for the very helpful video! You must check Murray's blood regularly as his weight would NOT have been an indicator of this CKD...lol
this video is very informative and essential for your cats health, new subscriber , thanks and best to all wonderful felines who add so much love to our lives, manhattan, new york city !
Thanks Oliver
Thank you. Hi Murray 💙
Thanks for all this info Murray! Is slippery elm bark effective as an alternative to fomatidine? My cat is wanting to eat and takes interest in what I offer but she is eating small amounts and I am worried sick. We have made so much progress.. she is playful, curious, and cuddly again after a really bad prognosis. She has already survived beyond what was estimated and maintaining a good quality of life.. now I just need her to be a piggy again. Please advise. Bloo is a fighter but she needs help!
We put down our 6yo cat who just suddenly stopped eating, drinking, vomiting, and when we took her to the vet she was very anemic.
It was so rushed and I dont know what was the true cause...
I couldnt take anything in, and I struggle to hear people through masks... especially when already quietly spoken. Now im researching to try and learn what happened.
Its much easier to listen to this without feeling rushed in the vets.
PLEASE , at the beginning of your videos, drop the back music, the music that plays over you talking. I would like to be able to hear you. Is it just me? Thank you
Ok - will do
Dr Andrew
I agree
Gratitude ❤
Hi I have approximately a 2 year old black spayed female cat that was born with a heart murmur and now she's not using the litter box. She's been peeing quite a bit on my bed, chairs, etc. But what really concerns me is that even though I give her can food she drinks water like crazy and then she'll sleep and when she gets up she pees where ever she's at. Except for the bed, I think after her seeing me change the waterproof padding a few times, I think she decided to stay off of the bed. But Thanksgiving night, she started not wanting anything to eat and she's hiding under my dresser. I don't know what to do for her now! 😥💔
My cat has kidney disease,and I’m making my own carrots,chicken,probiotics prebiotics, the first 9 ingredients all had 300 million probiotics. She went from peeing 10+ times a day, she’s losing her desire to drink. So I put ice in water,and she’s 18 . Tumeric is excellent, and Collidial Silver and the probiotics for cats and dogs ,dr Jones has his own brand. She has grey purple gums some pink. But I did everything Dr Jones asked,and she went for bloodwork,and it was excellent.
Thanks Doc! I bought “Wellness” just before seeing, this video and both male cats ; brothers, LOVE the ones I picked to try out! Awesome video
Thanks
Thank you so much! Very worried about my 15 year old cat. She has been diagnosed. Will try these!!❤
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my cat is old. he has slipped into an almost death state he is really feeling bad. He is 17 and somewhat healthy. I have to get him started on some of this soon very soon. The vet has already said .....we can do a lot but it's expensive and may not do much good. There was a lot in this video so I will begin in earnest
How has your kitty been doing?
So much amazing information, thank you for taking the time to share all of this. Gives me hope! I can be proactive :)
You’re most welcome!
Can you please one of these on dogs! My dog of 5 years old was diagnosed with it and I'm seeking remedies and not spend hundreds at the vet.
How did your dog do? My 5 year old cat got the same problem even tho she had a good diet. I am so worried. I already spent 100s of $ at vet. What did you do for your dog
Ameera Asif my 6 year old cat was just diagnosed as well. I thought this only happened in older cats. I’m in shock. Spent hundreds of dollars already.
@@AZ480Dyme you mean she is diagnosed with Chronic kidney disease? My cat has kidney stones. 😔 what did your vet say why did it happen
@@AZ480Dyme My kitty too and she also only 6. :( Way too young. My baby is supposed to live and experience life with me into her elder years. 😞 I've spent so much money, I just want my baby to be comfortable and happy.
SofiaSafia I’m with you. My little guy was supposed to live a long life and sadly we had to put him to sleep a few days ago. He wasn’t eating even with an appetite stimulant and had lost 50 percent of his weight. I could not watch him starve to death and the vet told me it was “time for Jack to go to Heaven.” 😭😭😭
Thanks for the help.
To add, I was informed by a cat Nutrition expert at my vet practice that low protein is not good for cats at any age, but instead feed a high quality protein, but less of the food. Hope this helps some people. I’ve had a terrible time finding food Cookie will eat, but now ok.
Dear Dr Andrews,does taking urinary care supplements help prevent kidney diseases too? Thank u very much.
Thank you very much for the info! My 14 year old cat has end stage ckd (createnine 6.9), htn and blindness and is also anorexic. I treat her with amlodipine, famotidine, serenia, pramine and mitrazepine and epaktine along with saline sc. A couple of days ago she completely stopped eating (which prevented me treating her with epaktine) and has incontinence, so im thinking its time to let go. I wish i knew about the cbd option earlier...is it too late to try now? Can it even help by this point? She was diagnosed at 9 years, i did my best but I dont want her to suffer 😔😔
That's a LOT of drugs for a cat with ckd. I'm not a Vet. I did get my undergraduate degree in Pre-Vet. End point here, however, is that there's not enough research done for our pets. I work in biotech I can tell you obviously a lot more goes into human research. All of that said, for our pets, and ourselves, always remember both the liver and kidneys break down and excrete all the toxins, but also the biproducts of drugs we put into our/their bodies. This is especially true when it comes to supplements/drugs. There is a point where any animal that is dealing with liver and/or kidney issues will face a more detrimental situation when these organs (that are already sadly failing) have to work even harder trying to clear these drugs. From the list you provided, I hate to say this, but you are most likely causing more damage than just letting them be with decent food and deciding when "good" quality of life is no longer achievable. Hardest part of being a pet owner. :( And often times, sadly, should be decided as their parent vs. Veterinarian recommendations.
Hope I didn't overstep here...just my thoughts and recommendations. From someone that has had to make the hard decision, over the years, with my "furry children"...it sucks so much. Thankfully we can (as opposed to it being illegal for humans facing end stage, terminal diseases that wish to make their own choices, in most states), when and obviously ONLY when, the time is right. I'm getting close with my 15 yr old boy who's hyperthyroid, getting needy as f, losing his balance, slight dimentia, etc. So hard. Wish everyone here all the love and most of all all the time possible with their babies. As amazing as our time with them is, it's always too short, and so painful to say goodbye. Thankful we can decide to stop their pain for the, however, when they need us to. It's the hardest thing to do in life, in my opinion, but also the best thing we can do for them when it's necessary.
Ack, sorry again, hope this was helpful, and not invasive/"troll like". Good luck, and take care everyone!
@@QueBeraBera Its alright, I agree that it really was a lot of medication for her, however I only gave her that amount of drugs when she reached end stage which fortunately happened very quickly over 5 the course of 5 days, It really helped to think that she didnt suffer for a long time. I eventually decided to let her go a couple of days after that. Really miss her and i wish she could live a bit longer but it was for the better
Thank you very much for your reply 😁
@@Raccoonzel so sorry for your loss!! It's so so hard. 😢 I had to put my old man's sister down over 5 yrs ago (poor thing had horrible neurogical issues that just became to heart wrenching to let her go through anymore). I'm so glad you had access to meds to help her be comfortable to the end, and as hard as it is glad for you it wasn't drawn out. I know nothing can ever replace her or quite mend that heartache. 😢 With Aiden left behind after having to put his sister Anya to sleep, I moved forward with getting him a new lil sister quicker than I usually would as he was so distraught I couldn't watch his sadness and grief any longer. Not trying to push you, but have to admit adding his new little Siamese sister Aria to our family was SO amazing to watch. He literally, immediately tried to pull her to him with his big ass double paws, as this tiny, freaked the F out Siamese kitten had all her hairs standing on ened hissing at him...literally like 3-4 times her size bahaha. That lasted like 3 hrs before she made a bed out of him, cuddled up, and passed out. Besties ever since. Again not trying to push, but have to also admit that that now 9 lbs gorgeous little yeowler of insanity that I now call either Chunky Monkey or Ariana Grande hahaha healed our whole household.
Hope you're doing as well as you can, and get some healing for yourself and yours when you're ready. Take care Raccoonzel! 🤗
I know this is an old comment, but why were you given saline for SC fluids over LR with an ESRD cat? The sodium in the saline actively competes with the Amlodipine and is too much for the kidneys to process. LR is the optimum choice because of its potassium content.
As for the medication list/amount, it honestly seems just fine except it looks like there's 3 redundant anti-emetics on there (the cerenia, mirtrazepine, and pramin). Otherwise, an antacid, Ca channel blocker, Ph binder, and antiemetic/ anti-anorexic are all very routine CKD medications. Especially for an end stage renal patient. I would have even added glucosamine and a probiotic for good measure, to be honest. Any patient experiencing a lot of disease processes is going to have a lot of medications because there isn't a one-stop shop pill for everything, unfortunately. Also, the fact that many medications are excreted through the kidneys is THE POINT- especially with the Ph binder. And it's important to remember not all meds go through the kidneys, as well. Pharmacokinetics are important to pay attention to, afterall. I have a *human medical degree with 15years on the books in Emergency Medicine, but 17years as a loving cat mom :)
Thank you for the information!
My cat lived 48 days.
Sorry for your loss, so sad...
I am very sorry to hear this..... I know it's like losing a small child.... very sorry for you and your baby... big warm hugs for you and your cat
So sorry! My cat is 5 and appeared to lose weight about late summer last year. He is now at 7 lbs and rather bony. Diagnosed last week with CKD. I’m gonna give him plenty of tuna and water and his favorite treats. Those things make him the happiest! His brother is 11 lbs and Everest is at 7. It breaks my heart but I’m gonna do my best to love him and give him his fav foods!❤️🙏
Thank you for sharing this valuable information ❤️🙏
My vet wanted $500+ of tests (bloodwork and xrays) to make a diagnosis of CKD. Otherwise no help was offered.
That is what I am afraid of as I live on Social Security.
So please tell us how to administer these to the cat!
I found out 2 days ago my cat has kidney disease. I've been researching a product called kidney support gold drops. What are your thoughts on that product?? Thank you
It may be helpful, But I have had no experience with it
don't feed dry food
If you mean the product from Pet Wellbeing, I am using it now and finding better results in a matter of days compared to a year + on the lactulose, along with switching to Hill's KD diet wet ( and sometimes dry of the same brand) for kidney disease. My cat is 16 and going strong after a diagnosis several years ago. She is very skinny, constantly drinks water and has a dull coat, but the main issue is terrible constipation with occasional vomiting. I also found these new Weruva in a pouch meals with gravy/juice has also helped at times to stimulate appetite and get more moisture in daily. The vets say IV fluid is the last option, but I would recommend the kidney support gold. I believe the ingredients to be herbal, roots and mushroom nutrition.
@@TwyfordRealEstate it didn't help. She was too far along. She passed away 3 years ago 😔
@@jessicam8028 I’m so sorry to hear that. We certainly try everything we can for our pets.
I know I am very lucky to still have all mine ( 4 seniors, 2 with issues). All we can do is our best and of course enjoy them every day.
Thank you! Not sure my cat will be as good a patient as Murray thou. Will do as you recommend.
You're most welcome! Let me know how it goes.
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my cat is 19 and going thru this
Please go back and read the comments of people who claim they are getting help by doing certain things for their cats . A couple of the mentioned something called Mirtizan but I don't know if I spelled it right.... they said it increase the appetite and a few of them said just putting water in Tumblr style glasses set around different places in the house will lure the cat to drink more water cuz he thinks he's stealing people's water... some of them will do it if you have one of those little Fountain type drinkers because the cats are attracted to moving water
Hi I have a cat name Romeo. He is 12 years old. He was diagnosed a year and half ago. I switched him right away the wet food. Science hills kidney care. He was early stages. The past few nights he has been throwing up. I saw your other video about famotidine. It helped but in the mornings he still throws up a foamy white substance. Part of another group that sugeested slipperly elm bark. That is actually how i found you by researching it. Im very happy to stumble upon your page. To learn more info. My question is should I start him on a phosphorus binder? If I am adding the famotidine and slipper elm bark. As for calcium I see you offer something. Any thoughts on baked eggshells thats crushed into powder form. Been reading so much stuff. Really grateful to find your page. Thank you. Its such a unpredictable disease. We do the best we can.
Why is kidney disease so common in cats?
Toxic/processed food. Especially kibble bc it's so drying to the kidneys. A raw diet is best for preventing it and helping them if they already have it.
Thank you! Doc. Jones
Thanks
Hey Dr Jones, I've a cat that the vet recently said has some kidney issues as he said "all 4 markers are elevated for reduced kidney function". She's about 17 so I'm not surprised but she seem to be holding her own health wise. Anyway I started her on a prescription brand of cat food for kidney support but I'd like to try that wellness brand you mentioned in the video. However their website is showing crude proteins as being about 10.5%. Would that still be an acceptable amount of protein or is it too much? How about the Wellness flavors in gravy that show the protein as being lower? Would those be okay? Again, just asking for your opinion. Thanks in advance.
Which is this wellness brand don’t see it 😢?
Thank you so much for your channel. So, so, so appreciated! xo
Thanks Diana
What canned cat food do you recommend that has low protein and no phosphorus?
Yes do tell
He mentioned in his vid " wellness grain free which has less than 10 % protein and is phosporus free.
@@user-wv2bn2cb1i thank you!
@@addicted367 I hope your cat likes it. I'm going to get some and see if mine does.
Grain free only,high moisture.
Is this supplement good for senior cats with diabetes?
Can't find the site to order supplement and I need it rushed! He's now starting to vomit and the original vet ignored me pointing out that the blood work didn't look normal! Why do they not listen? And do they just want to take blood? I asked if he looked in his mouth and checked the roof of his mouth and he said he didn't and was sure it was thyroid! I've had cat's with Liver failure, Kidney failure and hypothroid and hyperthyroid so I'm not saying I know it all but I've rescued and rehabed over a hundred and twenty cat's and thirty dogs. Now it may be too late please let me know how I can order this thanks Debbie
Hi - it;s a www.thecatsupplement.com
Thanks I got it 2 days ago and I'm putting it in gelatin capsules cuz he won't eat it in any food! But he's looking worse and the foul breath is back I'm giving IVs twice but he's still dehydrated and thanks for the tip on the pepside he's not throwing up but I think it's too late for anything to be done and I hate to stress him out driving 45min to put him to sleep. Wish I found this video sooner, update on this he lived an additional 5 years and I let him go home Dec 26 of 2022 it made him stable and not progress for a long time! I recommend the feline formula big time