This is a helpful tool for edging beds. BUT if you want to go cheap, but very effective check out my other video for edging fast and easy: ruclips.net/video/hBgqBC4EIxQ/видео.html
I have the stihl km130 kombisystem unit with the tiller/cultivator attachment, the rubber paddle broom, the bristle broom, the string trimmer, edger, 145 degree articulating hedge trimmer, the pole saw and I have two 3 foot carbon fiber extensions. No matter what tool I use or how hard I push this thing it never bogs down or loses power. I like this kombi unit better than the dedicated units because the engine on this km130 is 36.3 cc 1.9 HP and you can use the same powerful engine to run all of the tools and save storage space and money by not having to maintain multiple engines. I used to have 5 or 6 dedicated units and they took up alot of storage space, now I can literally fit this whole kombi system in a golf club bag. This kombi system is well worth the money and it's worth paying the few extra dollars for the bigger engine, (110, 111, 130, 131).
I have one it works good in certain situations. If the grounds semi soft it’s the ticket. You get it on some hard pack or clay and you might as well leave it in the trailer and grab a edging shovel. That’s just my personal opinion. Looks good though! Nice work
Definitely..here all these less than 20 year old houses….have gravel and soil that came from foundation excavation as the top soil…..those laugh at my stihl….then out comes the trencher
my kombi is about a month old. i have a problem with it flooding. it starts very easy from cold but if i kill it, wait a few minutes and try to restart with no throttle or choke, it floods. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks
@@davidandcarolh I have the kombi and several other small engine tools. Sounds like it might not be flooded but just the opposite and starved for fuel. Press the rubber fuel bulb until you feel pressure, and pull the cord with throttle engaged and choke on. When you hear it kick over (but not start), turn choke off. Most non-start issues are due to old gas. Remove old gas and top off with new, preferably non-ethanol gas. Mixed properly with oil of course. Make sure the air filter is clean.
@Ein fach this one unimportant thing, has many attachments and comprises my whole yard work tasks. it can be a cultivator, trimmer, edger, limb saw or blower.
I use differnt makes of tools with my kombi. Even the cheap ones from lowes and home depot work. They may not last like the stihl ones but they work. I love the stihl 4 mix kombi motor.
We do commercial and residential lawn care/landscaping and have the Echo redefiner and had to buy a new combo head and bought this attachment and I will say the Sthil performs better. We bought the KM 131 and I think that makes a big difference too with more power. The Echo does ok but the Sthil digs deeper and a wider path and doesn't clog as easy. We make two passes and on the second pass we turn the unit into the bed and it gives a nice wide deep cut where as the Echo would only get us about a 3" or so bevel.
donmckee90 I use the kombi 131r powerhead and the redefiner attachment with an Echo blade- they cut a more defined and wider area than just a standard edger.
I had a model older than this one that I love. My sister has difficulty with tools that are too heavy and she actually loved mine and found it easy to use ruclips.net/user/postUgkx_rBCFuDW1zD6blTGhLkvAkxU657uR_lG . This is a newer model but was even lighter which she really appreciates. She enjoys it and I no longer have to go to her house to trim as she can handle it fine. Haven't used it enough to comment on the battery life but lithium batteries last longer than the old style. Being cordless makes it easy to trim the far edges of the property. The entire yard can be trimmed with one charged battery.
Once an edge is made using a square shovel, I then use my Worx grass trimmer which can be rotated and used as an edge trimmer. It does a nice neat job without the expense of purchasing of having to purchase specific edging tool.
Love my kombi system. Thought I had an issue with the motor recently, then a mate told me to take the spark arrestor off the exhaust, throw it in the bin and run the machine harder 😁
ik this was a yr ago but u did right in my opinion goin with the stihl... i rented the echo from hd and didnt realise till I saw u.. I WAS GOIN FWD!.... lmao.. maybe thats why my results was 'ok'.. lol.. good video
Looks good but still need to cut the slope back up into the bed and shave off some of it to clean it up. Hated how long this took me every year so I put down a stone paver edge. No more cutting beds.
Your supposed to walk backwards with it? I have the Kombi system, love it. Just looked on the stihl canada website, this tool is $350....expensive for what it is.
Yes, it may seem expensive up front, however Stihl will work for you plus 10 years! Is $35/season expensive? I replaced two off brand string trimmers in one season when my repair guy said they were dead at $150 each. Moral of story...cheap equipment up front costs much more money!
Interesting attachment. In 20 yrs of commercial mowing I never knew this existed, and I had all Stihl products including the split shaft. Prob would never use it commercially as you’re in a hurry and the trimmer works fine for this. Most customers who had nicer lawns used the green metal edging, or black plastic edging for their beds as it keeps your mulch in and the grass out.
donny0007 I had no idea I left any comment on this video. Super weird. I enjoyed watching the video which was well done and informative. Nothing negative from me. 😊
I edge my lawns with concrete edges works well u got a perfect your hold sold you don’t beat side walk . No pavers or black top edge do that with string trimmer
OK, I know this is an old video but I just found it and I'm new to this tool so I have to ask, I see that you pull it back towards you, is that how it's meant to be done? I used it for the first time but I pushed it forward.
Exactly! I was like redefined? Wtf is this idiot talking about? It’s an everyday multi attachment tool nothing special. Love how everyone on RUclips has suddenly become a lawn care expert 🤣
I bought a house last year with existing curved beds all over with the natural edge. I paid someone last year (lots of other stuff to do!). I haven't gotten out there this year as I'm waiting for painters to finish with the outside of the house. My concern with these natural edges is how do I keep this from expanding year after year? Even if a 1/2 is taken off each year you end up loosing 5 inches after 10 years. Another concern is you end up kicking the dirt out say 12 inches or so, so from the house it slopes down then piles up then back down bringing rain back toward the house in lieu of way from the house. Am i wrong? Do I just need to fix the grading issue I have here and make sure the edge does not grow?
It works much better that way for me anyway. I guess I would equate it to when you are vacuuming, when you pull back you really get the deep clean, must be the rotation of the blades.
Does Stihl offer just the blade? It seems like a waste to buy the attachment when you could just use an edger with that specialty blade. Great video and information.
Have this same system on my Husqvarna line trimmer/hedge trimmer. 2 heads and one power supply. Sweet! Have to check on this bed redefiner head now. Thanks!
I edge a baseball field and was wondering if this would work on a warning track if I shot the dirt/grass towards the outfield grass and not towards the warning track itself ??.... thanks
How do you keep weeds out of your beds? I put down the weed barrier fabric under the mulch yet it never fails I get grass and weeds to creep into the bed. How often do you refresh the mulch in you planting beds? Do you have a video on planting bed maintenance tips?
I am done with the weed fabric forever it never lasts and always ends up coming up on me. Watch my other video and this is an easy way to keep weeds down by a huge % each year in garden beds: ruclips.net/video/J5EwhuoaZnA/видео.html
It's NOT !! the ONLY ! Two ! Brands ! On the . Market !! Husqvarna , Shindaiwa , enen Mcolluch ! Back in the Eighties ! Mac 17 / 25 ) Tanaka , just to name a few !
It's expensive to get started. Look on Craiglist, I find a lot of attachments there for sale from people breaking up sets. You can get a good deal, buy the powerhead new or like new and you can save some money there. The attachments are hard to break so they are usually great used.
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This is a helpful tool for edging beds. BUT if you want to go cheap, but very effective check out my other video for edging fast and easy: ruclips.net/video/hBgqBC4EIxQ/видео.html
f no. Im not shoveling $hit
I bought it for the same reason two years ago and couldn’t be happier !! Great results and a huge time saver !!
I used this to redefine my bed. Now I need a new mattress.
🤔🤔😵💫😵💫🤣🤣
Lmaoooo
😆
Lolololol
My wife was pissed what it did to them 20 pillows on it as well
I have the stihl km130 kombisystem unit with the tiller/cultivator
attachment, the rubber paddle broom, the bristle broom, the string
trimmer, edger, 145 degree articulating hedge trimmer, the pole saw and I
have two 3 foot carbon fiber extensions. No matter what tool I use or
how hard I push this thing it never bogs down or loses power. I like
this kombi unit better than the dedicated units because the engine on
this km130 is 36.3 cc 1.9 HP and you can use the same powerful engine to
run all of the tools and save storage space and money by not having to
maintain multiple engines. I used to have 5 or 6 dedicated units and
they took up alot of storage space, now I can literally fit this whole
kombi system in a golf club bag. This kombi system is well worth the
money and it's worth paying the few extra dollars for the bigger engine,
(110, 111, 130, 131).
How do you like the paddle broom and bristle brush? Which do you prefer? Or are they pretty much equal?
@@clinte9160 *They both work well, I use the paddle broom for sweeping my lawn and the bristle to sweep concrete and hard surfaces.*
Thanks for showing on edges without concrete!!
I have one it works good in certain situations. If the grounds semi soft it’s the ticket. You get it on some hard pack or clay and you might as well leave it in the trailer and grab a edging shovel. That’s just my personal opinion. Looks good though! Nice work
Definitely..here all these less than 20 year old houses….have gravel and soil that came from foundation excavation as the top soil…..those laugh at my stihl….then out comes the trencher
Easy on soft soil. Like to see it on a Claybed type soil. Looks nice tho.
might have to wet the soil a bit first.
I've had both kombi system and the yard boss for years and I have been absolutley impressed with every attachment performance.
my kombi is about a month old. i have a problem with it flooding. it starts very easy from cold but if i kill it, wait a few minutes and try to restart with no throttle or choke, it floods. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks
@@davidandcarolh I have the kombi and several other small engine tools. Sounds like it might not be flooded but just the opposite and starved for fuel. Press the rubber fuel bulb until you feel pressure, and pull the cord with throttle engaged and choke on. When you hear it kick over (but not start), turn choke off. Most non-start issues are due to old gas. Remove old gas and top off with new, preferably non-ethanol gas. Mixed properly with oil of course. Make sure the air filter is clean.
@Ein fach this one unimportant thing, has many attachments and comprises my whole yard work tasks. it can be a cultivator, trimmer, edger, limb saw or blower.
I use differnt makes of tools with my kombi. Even the cheap ones from lowes and home depot work. They may not last like the stihl ones but they work. I love the stihl 4 mix kombi motor.
We do commercial and residential lawn care/landscaping and have the Echo redefiner and had to buy a new combo head and bought this attachment and I will say the Sthil performs better. We bought the KM 131 and I think that makes a big difference too with more power. The Echo does ok but the Sthil digs deeper and a wider path and doesn't clog as easy. We make two passes and on the second pass we turn the unit into the bed and it gives a nice wide deep cut where as the Echo would only get us about a 3" or so bevel.
I'm kind of new at this stuff, so what's the difference between this product and your standard edger?
donmckee90 I use the kombi 131r powerhead and the redefiner attachment with an Echo blade- they cut a more defined and wider area than just a standard edger.
I had a model older than this one that I love. My sister has difficulty with tools that are too heavy and she actually loved mine and found it easy to use ruclips.net/user/postUgkx_rBCFuDW1zD6blTGhLkvAkxU657uR_lG . This is a newer model but was even lighter which she really appreciates. She enjoys it and I no longer have to go to her house to trim as she can handle it fine. Haven't used it enough to comment on the battery life but lithium batteries last longer than the old style. Being cordless makes it easy to trim the far edges of the property. The entire yard can be trimmed with one charged battery.
Every tool by Stihl is great
Thank you for sharing your journey with us Silver!
Nice job we hand spade all our bed. The Stihl kombi is a awesome tool.
Those work awesome ! Just don’t be like me and forget about the “invisible” dog fence 🤣🤦♂️
I hate those unexpected surprises.
You’d probably hit them with the shovel anyway
Can't beat Stihl,👍
Edging cutter really nice and clean. I like that.new friend watching from Philippines ..
Once an edge is made using a square shovel, I then use my Worx grass trimmer which can be rotated and used as an edge trimmer. It does a nice neat job without the expense of purchasing of having to purchase specific edging tool.
I pretty sure this tool is used at the beginning of the year to edge beds before mulching not during mowing
Great job and the landscaping beds look great
I have a acre of lawn with 4 islands. I got pretty good at edging with my 40 volt kobolt weed wacker turning it to edge..
Wow great tool to add . A lot better than the old Square shovel way we all did our beds! Thanks 😁👍🏻
Love my kombi system. Thought I had an issue with the motor recently, then a mate told me to take the spark arrestor off the exhaust, throw it in the bin and run the machine harder 😁
Damn it. You could have just torched it and it woulda ran good as new. Now you are just putting pressure on your machine.
Have to wonder why other tool vendors haven’t had an attachment like this one seems to do the trick very nicely
I’m an Echo customer! Prefer BRD-2620
ik this was a yr ago but u did right in my opinion goin with the stihl... i rented the echo from hd and didnt realise till I saw u.. I WAS GOIN FWD!.... lmao.. maybe thats why my results was 'ok'.. lol.. good video
Nice product review. Take Care.
I love my redmax and echo landscaping maintenance tools and my bobcat, xmark mowers
Redmax stuff is really good. I wish they made more products. You will see some in my upcoming videos too.
@@SilverCymbal yup thats true tho
As a professional user this tool needs strictly used in very light soils for reducing an edge. This tool will not replace a bed edger.
Worth every penny……now I am going to get it
Looks good but still need to cut the slope back up into the bed and shave off some of it to clean it up. Hated how long this took me every year so I put down a stone paver edge. No more cutting beds.
Stihl is number 1 all the time
Echo had a bed redefiner for years!!
Your supposed to walk backwards with it? I have the Kombi system, love it. Just looked on the stihl canada website, this tool is $350....expensive for what it is.
Yes, it may seem expensive up front, however Stihl will work for you plus 10 years! Is $35/season expensive? I replaced two off brand string trimmers in one season when my repair guy said they were dead at $150 each. Moral of story...cheap equipment up front costs much more money!
Interesting attachment. In 20 yrs of commercial mowing I never knew this existed, and I had all Stihl products including the split shaft. Prob would never use it commercially as you’re in a hurry and the trimmer works fine for this. Most customers who had nicer lawns used the green metal edging, or black plastic edging for their beds as it keeps your mulch in and the grass out.
Don't forget Husqvarna!!! Love my Husqvarna Combi system as well as all my other Husqvarna yard equipment!!
You misunderstand, you are watching a commercial for Stihl
@@doomtomb3 All set with Stihl! Husqvarna hands down!
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@@marjiens8163 WHAT?!?!?!!
donny0007 I had no idea I left any comment on this video. Super weird. I enjoyed watching the video which was well done and informative. Nothing negative from me. 😊
😀 looks like a beaut bit of kit 👍👍
It is a good tool thank you
So how do you maintain that edge mid-season when there is mulch in the bed? without making a mess of it?
I only do this or the shovel once per season. Just string trim after as I show here: ruclips.net/video/w_WIonHGISA/видео.html
Walking forwards gives a even better edge, because that is how it in designed to use. And less dirt on your lawn.
Wrong.
Results are well worth the effort. Good video.
Thank you very much
Beautiful
Does this work to cut sod into squares and remove?
Dont really wanna buy a sod cutter is really expensive...
Good work also aerating
I edge my lawns with concrete edges works well u got a perfect your hold sold you don’t beat side walk . No pavers or black top edge do that with string trimmer
OK, I know this is an old video but I just found it and I'm new to this tool so I have to ask, I see that you pull it back towards you, is that how it's meant to be done? I used it for the first time but I pushed it forward.
I have 75 x 50mm H4 wooden edging and cut the edges with a line trimmer. Great results also.
I only play with stihl tools i have no time to experiment with other tool brands.
Can you just put that blade on a stick edger? That's all the thing really looks like.
Probably. I'm also wondering now if a garden cultivator head could do double duty as a mulch bed rejuvenator.
No
It looks like you could
Exactly! I was like redefined? Wtf is this idiot talking about? It’s an everyday multi attachment tool nothing special. Love how everyone on RUclips has suddenly become a lawn care expert 🤣
Seems like a nice tool but I’m moving toward electric/battery powered tools.
Could you go the opposite way to fire the debris lawn side?
Can you put a standard edger blade in it too and use it for along sidewalks as well?
What if the border is concrete/grass? Will this work aswell?
Sweet Video!
Thanks man …very helpful !
Edging wearing shorts, very brave move.
Agreed
I weed eat everyday with shorts lmao
shame we don't have these in the uk, I use the standard lawn edger a lot.
What do you use? Pls advise?
I bought the same one with most attachments.. will never touch a echo again
I bought a house last year with existing curved beds all over with the natural edge. I paid someone last year (lots of other stuff to do!). I haven't gotten out there this year as I'm waiting for painters to finish with the outside of the house.
My concern with these natural edges is how do I keep this from expanding year after year? Even if a 1/2 is taken off each year you end up loosing 5 inches after 10 years.
Another concern is you end up kicking the dirt out say 12 inches or so, so from the house it slopes down then piles up then back down bringing rain back toward the house in lieu of way from the house.
Am i wrong? Do I just need to fix the grading issue I have here and make sure the edge does not grow?
I could answer that for you...
when milwaukee ads one of these attachments to their power head ill for sure get it but these things cost over 600 bucks thats crazy
Phenomenal
Would be nice if available in Australia.
I like the stihl blade compare to the echo. I wonder If I can just buy the blade
My gardens are mulched, they were edged prior to mulching, how do you suggest I keep the edges clean? Thx.
Great video. Thank you.
That tool looks awesome! Is there a reason why your walking backward vs forward?
It works much better that way for me anyway. I guess I would equate it to when you are vacuuming, when you pull back you really get the deep clean, must be the rotation of the blades.
Very cool
Don't know of I can justify the purchase
Damn, I need this
This is a cool staff.
Really sad that i cant order it from Uk...
Hi, where is the link to this product? thank you.
Sweet tool!
What happens if you run into a large spruce or pine root? I have large trees in my bed and have hit roots with a shovel.
Great machine 👍👍 good 👍👍😊👌,
I think you have Boxwood Leaf Borers.
Will this work well on driveways and curbs??
why not use a regular edger??? this redefined looks like a reg. edger with a different blade.
Sold!
Does Stihl offer just the blade? It seems like a waste to buy the attachment when you could just use an edger with that specialty blade. Great video and information.
Not exactly. The “guard” actually does most of the work to redirect the material back into the bed. Otherwise it would just go everywhere.
3:50 If you have a lot of beds to do, the girl is a great value. LOL
Hello what is the max depth you can go with this tool in the video?
Just bought the 91r kombi. Will this work or do I need the 131?
Use the echo blade on my still and it is sweet
Nice, maybe Echo will send me one to try, it looks very good!
Have this same system on my Husqvarna line trimmer/hedge trimmer. 2 heads and one power supply. Sweet! Have to check on this bed redefiner head now. Thanks!
Silver Cymbal the echo blade trims way deeper and cleaner than the stihl blade. It weighs like 20lbs lol. I think I paid 100 for the blade
Anyone have the echo blade on the stihl edger and not the redefiner attachment
Brian Allen all you need is a thicker washer- it cuts way better than the one that comes on the stihl.
How wide is the trench it creates?
Can blow the debris into the yard?
I have rubber mulch and don’t want to blow dirt onto it
Can you use the blade on the regular lawn edger?
Will the attachment work with other attachable weed whackers?
Unfortunately not
I edge a baseball field and was wondering if this would work on a warning track if I shot the dirt/grass towards the outfield grass and not towards the warning track itself ??.... thanks
How do you keep weeds out of your beds? I put down the weed barrier fabric under the mulch yet it never fails I get grass and weeds to creep into the bed. How often do you refresh the mulch in you planting beds? Do you have a video on planting bed maintenance tips?
I am done with the weed fabric forever it never lasts and always ends up coming up on me. Watch my other video and this is an easy way to keep weeds down by a huge % each year in garden beds: ruclips.net/video/J5EwhuoaZnA/видео.html
Amazing tools
In which vid on your play list did u get in depth on using Tenacity with a blue dye and the surfactant? I can’t find it
ruclips.net/video/HWNM1Wafsvk/видео.html
Satisfying
do you have any links where i can buy the stihl trimmer and all the attachments? @silver cymbal
It's a great idea with some serious flaws. The trench isn't deep enough. It's only good if you have naked beds, meaning no mulch.
So all I have to do is come up with 700 bucks. Got it. Thanks.
Is there an electric version?
I'm looking for something to cut thru a thick vine.
Is there a reason you go backwards ? I tried once and it felt uncomfortable.
I find it much easier but whatever works for each of us is best!
@@SilverCymbal Ok thanks for responding I was just curious because I noticed the blade is different.
It's NOT !! the ONLY ! Two ! Brands ! On the . Market !! Husqvarna , Shindaiwa , enen Mcolluch ! Back in the Eighties ! Mac 17 / 25 ) Tanaka , just to name a few !
Cheaping out a few years ago and not getting the kombi a few years ago is going to make this year expensive
It's expensive to get started. Look on Craiglist, I find a lot of attachments there for sale from people breaking up sets. You can get a good deal, buy the powerhead new or like new and you can save some money there. The attachments are hard to break so they are usually great used.
Are you from New York?
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