DIY Solar Water Heater! - Deluxe "Aluminum backed" COPPER COIL Solar Water Heater! 175F Full Instr.

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  • Deluxe DIY Solar Water Heater! Solar Thermal "Aluminum backed" COPPER COIL Water Heater! Easy DIY w/Full Instructions. Super Hot water, super fast. reached 125F in 5 minutes ...and near 175F after about 15. no soldering required! uses just one coil of 3/8" copper tubing (amazon $23) and push-to-fit connectors. only tools used were screwdriver, hammer, tin snips (or scissors), hack saw and a drill. great for use as a stand alone unit or can be hooked into home's plumbing as supplemental heating for water heater. notes: using the aluminum backing adds roughly 10F to the water (but is optional). system is relatively lightweight and is easy to move and store *and the design allows for multiple units to be easy connected together (if a larger system is desired). details: outer board 1/2" plywood 23.7" x 23.7" (sold that way - no cutting required). inner board 1/4" plywood 19 3/4" x 19 3/4". glass 20"x20" (or use Plexi-Glas).4 3/8" Square wooden dowels. 2x2 lumber 2 pieces cut to 20 1/4" and 2 pieces cut to 23 1/4". Hardware: Four (#10) 2 1/2" wood screws. Eight (#10) 1" wood screws. Fourteen 3/8" screws (to hold down the aluminum). 12 1.5" (#16) wire nails. heavy duty heat resistant zip ties (or use wire). 5 3/4" satin brass finish door pull (the handle).
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  • @alanwilson2073
    @alanwilson2073 3 года назад +3

    At the outlet temp. of 150, that's scalding hot! I like the way it is able to maintain that temp. even with the constant cold water coming in. I don't need inlet temp., I'm convinced enough it's a great system. Good job!!!

  • @bobsbarnworkshop
    @bobsbarnworkshop 3 года назад +20

    Now what you need to do is get an 80 gallon water heater to use as a storage tank and circulate the water from the collector through it with a low volume dc pump also powered by a small solar panel, that way the intensity of the sun regulates flow rate automatically. It also stops when the sun is down!

  • @dona62851
    @dona62851 4 года назад +6

    How have I never heard of this before!? Seems perfect for nomads!

  • @nikia1224
    @nikia1224 4 года назад +4

    Ok... I see you Mr. Harbor Freights drill.. 😎 My favorite place to shop. You have the best video I had seen that produces the most efficient way of a solar heater for a pool.

  • @ivorygilyard2243
    @ivorygilyard2243 2 года назад +1

    That was so simple but so amazing. Thank you for posting. The video was very helpful. I appreciate it.

  • @SethMethCS
    @SethMethCS 6 лет назад +13

    Some improvement ideas I have is to add thermal paste where the pipe touches the metal sheeting to maximise the thermal transfer, double pane the glass, use the blackest black paint there is (black 2.0), and if using more than one, a servo switch & check valve and plumbing to run water in series or parellel depending on the sun.

    • @TheRebelmanone
      @TheRebelmanone 4 года назад

      Yea, FLAT black paint, totally flat as possible, no shine at all. Any shine will reflect the light(HEAT) away. Also on the glass panels, get non reflective glass, or i think they call it low reflective transparent panels.

    • @David-bl1bt
      @David-bl1bt 3 года назад

      Personally I would exit the pipe from the centre of the coil through the back of the baseboard, then add aluminum sheet to the top of the coil to sandwich the coil, effectively increasing surface area that touches the pipe.
      I would use kingspan insulation board for the rear to retain heat.

  • @allglad
    @allglad 3 года назад

    Since I first watched a heater like this I’ve been so wanting one.

    • @allglad
      @allglad 3 года назад

      I’m going to add a quick connect hose connector.
      ..hopefully add thin foam under the aluminum for cold weather..also.

  • @nabbsone
    @nabbsone 2 года назад

    learned how to do this is 6th grade. came here and still got some great ideas for mine. Much respect for hand screwing all those screws too. 🖖.

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад

      hi there. if it's just a few i just use a regular screwdriver - no need for the power. also no power driver if they are the really small ones.

  • @HadasahB
    @HadasahB 6 лет назад +3

    A thing of beauty! Thanks

  • @pf_n1ps
    @pf_n1ps 5 лет назад

    Very nice. Going to be making something similar using 1/4" tube and R410A. It will be more like an air source heat pump with compressor etc.

  • @dougthegreat1808
    @dougthegreat1808 4 года назад

    I was planning to use 500 ft. irrigation tubing. I trust this will overcome the thru put of the newly heated water with new cool water coming in. Thereby giving me constant heated water exiting the heater....

  • @eyemarc1
    @eyemarc1 6 лет назад +6

    Once that you are drawing the hot water out of the unit, is the water coming in from garden hose also heating up for use? In a timely manner?

  • @GEAUXFRUGAL
    @GEAUXFRUGAL 6 лет назад +4

    Love your videos what the world REALLY NEEDS is a way to make hot water in a car ! Use the Inter combustion engine main byproduct to create something good that byproduct is HEAT !

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 4 года назад +1

      Are you kidding? The interior can go over 300 degrees Fahrenheit. Stick a bag of water on the rear deck, and it will be plenty hot in an hour or two.

  • @claudiodaniel798
    @claudiodaniel798 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing.!

  • @antonwearsakilt5209
    @antonwearsakilt5209 6 лет назад +14

    1 thing I noticed that will shorten the life of this project, having dis-similar metals in contact with each other will cause a small die- electrical discharge, and the copper will eventually corrode wherever there is contact with the aluminum. Painting the aluminum 1st would solve this issue. Other than that good job and thanks for sharing.

    • @houstonbutler476
      @houstonbutler476 4 года назад +5

      Not true with copper and aluminium because they are both non-ferrous metals. If it was mounted on sheet metal then you would be correct and it would cause electrolysis but it would take years to create a leak and in this application who cares.

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 4 года назад +2

      The copper won't corrode. Copper in contact with zinc or steel or aluminum will cause the other metal to corrode.

    • @dougaustin1328
      @dougaustin1328 Год назад +1

      Yep, correct!!

  • @-a13x-75
    @-a13x-75 4 года назад

    i was about to comment how reflective copper is to infrared light and then i saw you blacked it. pretty ingenious to use black copper oxide to increase light absorption

  • @johnroppelt5549
    @johnroppelt5549 5 лет назад +1

    Great video! What powers the water pressure? Would siphoning work or would the heat transfer to the water effect the siphon?

  • @jimmydeen58
    @jimmydeen58 6 лет назад +3

    Awesome Video. A+

  • @jonastadeu5353
    @jonastadeu5353 6 лет назад +2

    Good afternoon! I live in Brazil, I wonder if I install a 100 Liters reservoir I get the effect of thermosifao cold water leaving the reservatoria pass on the plate and return warm? Thankful.

  • @leewaytoo
    @leewaytoo 4 года назад +1

    for the wood, drill the outer hole the correct diameter. then drill with a smaller bit through that outer hole into the wood piece that you will join together with the screw. this allows the screw to pull the outer piece towards the smaller hole piece, creating a tighter fit.

  • @stephenbeckers2923
    @stephenbeckers2923 5 лет назад +4

    Great video, I really like your design. I do have a suggestion though: what if you painted the coil on both sides, used stand-offs under the coil, and leave the aluminum foil shiny? That would create almost twice the heat to the coil. Just an idea. Enjoy your videos.

    • @TheRebelmanone
      @TheRebelmanone 4 года назад +6

      You are thinking of a parabolic type reflector., yes they work excellent. But this design the back plate absorbs the light, heats the shit out of it, then it conducts to the pipe, hence conducts to the water. So the connection needs to be tight against the back plate for good conduction of heat. That is why he used aluminum, a great conductor of temperature, else he could have just used tin, or even just blue board, or plywood.

  • @alejandronogales5533
    @alejandronogales5533 3 года назад

    what keeps the glass in place? best solar heating video of all the ones I've seen.

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  3 года назад +1

      hi and thanks. i used silicone caulk to hold the glass in. 👍

  • @yeshuaisthewaythetruthandt515
    @yeshuaisthewaythetruthandt515 6 лет назад

    Love it

  • @namename5184
    @namename5184 6 лет назад +1

    is the copper u used is a soft type coil? same coil use s for refrigeration?

  • @bravo4741
    @bravo4741 6 лет назад +6

    What if air temp is lower around 40, 50, 60? What will be water temp?

  • @djwmunro
    @djwmunro 3 года назад +3

    I wonder if you used a copper plate then you could solder the pipe to it. Would that transfer the heat better?

  • @kitsurubami
    @kitsurubami 6 лет назад +1

    do you think the aluminum flashing on the back makes a difference?

  • @johnrhansonsr
    @johnrhansonsr 6 лет назад +10

    When we were stationed in the Philippines we employed a similar system but with an array of hoses on the roof. It worked so well the water became too hot. We then decided to take it down and take cold showers. LOL

    • @yohjokromwood2327
      @yohjokromwood2327 6 лет назад +1

      nice would this setup not be realy effecient to desalt sea water?

    • @johnrhansonsr
      @johnrhansonsr 6 лет назад

      That's an interesting idea.

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 5 лет назад

      @@yohjokromwood2327 saltwater corrodes copper.

  • @henrietterozema8379
    @henrietterozema8379 4 года назад +4

    It would be very much appreciated if the hook ups could be more specific, as far as the warm water hook up is concerned - just with garden hose into the bathtub?😁

  • @nermainmerl6108
    @nermainmerl6108 2 года назад +1

    Just a fun question, can we connect this with a solar boiler tank ? Do you think it will be efficient? I have a 300L solar boiler tank but no collector and this looks like a fun project after uni exams

  • @shazizz
    @shazizz 6 лет назад +4

    A couple small modifications to your design could give you a thermal electric charge as well, as a thermosyphon so no electric pump would be needed to circulate the water. :) Good stuff.

    • @nycupperes
      @nycupperes 4 года назад +1

      Could u explain.

    • @jpageify
      @jpageify 3 года назад +2

      @@nycupperes there are diodes that produce an electrical current when there is a temperature difference between the 2 sides. It's rather small typically (.1-.5amps) but would be enough power to run a small dc water pump enough to circulate water through.

    • @gentlelove
      @gentlelove 3 года назад

      @@jpageify could you leave a link to a page or video that shows how to install those? I sure would love to see something like that Shalom thank you

    • @jpageify
      @jpageify 3 года назад

      @@gentlelove www.amazon.com/dp/B07H8642YN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_XDJ8FbQTTS4GY

  • @Tsiri09
    @Tsiri09 6 лет назад +8

    That is amazing for a portable hot water heater. I'm an RV'er and like to boondock, or set up and camp with no water/sewer/electric hookups. How would you design an intake and a hot water catch tank that are portable? That would be priceless for me to use. Love your videos- I'm learning a lot from you.

    • @joetheragman2076
      @joetheragman2076 4 года назад +1

      Work with the principles of thermosiphon, once you understand that principle and how it works all sorts of designs are possible for an RV. Hot water rises, in the tubing or in the tank, it displaces cold water that sinks, in the tubing it is kind of force by the gradient into the tubing as hot water rises and pulls the cold water in, as it rises it enters the tank. You must understand how high the hot water will rise by doing some calculations and that will tell you how high you can place the tank without losing the thermosiphon effect. That effectis what circulates the water around.
      Also, don't use any plastic parts in your system, use all lead-free fittings and tubing and a tank deemed for potable water.

  • @ctm130
    @ctm130 6 лет назад +2

    how much coil would you need to get 1 to 3 gallons of water heated?

  • @zengrail
    @zengrail 5 лет назад

    I think that this may heat the surface somewhat, but cold water sinks and the heated water would need to be circulated during this process.

  • @deborahlago7447
    @deborahlago7447 3 года назад

    Can I make this and hook it up to my pool pump that will put the hot water into my inground pool in Arizona to heat the water during spring & fall months when weather is still hot but water is cooler?

  • @CryptoPipeline
    @CryptoPipeline 4 года назад +1

    What's the thermal output you get from this?
    I mean how many litres of water can you heat per day during summer if it's in the direct sun?
    Would it be enough for two showers?

  • @islandmonusvi
    @islandmonusvi 4 года назад

    Excellent DUI...although lagging perpendicular into end grain makes a weak joint...Better to miter the corners ...good job . Thx

    • @oneskydog4401
      @oneskydog4401 4 года назад +1

      Not much load on the corners if it meets requirements it is a quality job.

  • @frederickporras8407
    @frederickporras8407 4 года назад

    You recommend a copper pot plex coil to heat a pool

  • @JudasBytes
    @JudasBytes 4 года назад +1

    does the water produced depend on the length of the tube or it produces continuos hot water?

  • @johnchoice1371
    @johnchoice1371 Год назад +1

    Does it need a pump to force water through it? What speed does the water flow through? Also, could it generate hot water on a cold day (0 - 10 degrees Celcius) if the sun is shining?

  • @user-hl4if4cj4n
    @user-hl4if4cj4n 6 лет назад +3

    thinkyou

  • @nice000
    @nice000 2 года назад +1

    The only improvement thoughts I have are to add a secondary box around the actual heating chamber and buy a vacuum pump to seal the area in between the outer box and inner box.
    If the boxes were well sealed, this would reduce heat loss to near-zero and allow the water to get even hotter if 175 F is the current limit due to heat loss. Another solution would be to use insulation instead of a vacuum layer.
    Thermal paste to maximize heat transfer would also be better.

  • @markcurtis4609
    @markcurtis4609 2 года назад

    Is there a recommendation for a water pump to use with this solar water heater using 3/8” OD copper pipe at 50’ length. A 1hp non variable speed pump burned up in like 10-15 minutes. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

  • @mykey06
    @mykey06 4 года назад

    How long is the copper tubing? Would you recommend this to heat a small kid pool?

  • @rustytriggers9769
    @rustytriggers9769 6 лет назад +1

    Have you tried this in a cold climate? I need something that size to heat water up to about 100 degrees for a camp shower. Outside temps are 30-40 degrees. I tried a similar setup using PEX tubing but could only get a 1-2 degree increase in water temp. I'm Using a 2 Gpm pump. I also switched the PEX out for a 20' copper coil but got the same results. no where near the 175 degrees seen in your video :( i can step up to a 50' copper coil, but I hate to make that kind of investment with no return. of course my out side temp was 40-50 and water starting temp was 60 degrees. I used an Ice chest to reduce losses but not efficient enough to us a solar heater. I have put the copper coil in a camp fire and can heat a 5 gallon bucket from 40 degrees to 100 in about 15-20 minutes. It's a good backup for when there's no sun shine but I'd much rather get the performance out of a solar setup like yours.

  • @alkennedy1124
    @alkennedy1124 3 года назад

    So how long does it keep ice cold water coming from city water in the middle of winter, ??? I need one for a property I have that dose not have hot water ??? Thanks BigAl California.

  • @ubeyer1
    @ubeyer1 4 года назад +1

    Hello........
    how long is the copper tube?

  • @harrrytoool1391
    @harrrytoool1391 3 года назад +1

    Great for camping.🤓

  • @alexmac156
    @alexmac156 6 лет назад +1

    A variation of this would be to hook the inlet to the cold water pipe of a shower and use the drain water to preheat it before it reaches the cold tap either that or the water heater inlet. To stop the box holding cold water from the last shower just add a trickle hole that would drain it. No reason it could not be built into a shower box floor ready for install.

  • @namename5184
    @namename5184 6 лет назад +1

    how long is the tubing?

  • @davidshortt88
    @davidshortt88 5 лет назад

    Good video. Not sure why the aluminum. Aluminium transfers heat like crazy. If you are trying to keep the heat in stainless would be the way to go. Not sure it needs anything, insulation possibly. If you seal it up tight it will need vent holes or the expanded air will break the glass.

  • @niekvandenberg205
    @niekvandenberg205 10 месяцев назад

    They work...but things to consider

  • @gregau21
    @gregau21 6 лет назад +2

    How would you go about having it work in conjunction with your existing hot water heater? Would be awesome to have preheated water before the hot water tank has to kick on.

    • @dw6015
      @dw6015 6 лет назад

      Greg Kohls Jr. I wonder if you feed a tank less and maybe flash heater with this solar unit it's temp sensor would adjust and only add energy as needed.

  • @paulkruger1482
    @paulkruger1482 4 года назад

    How long after sunset does the water stay warm?

  • @TheRedkaplan
    @TheRedkaplan 4 года назад +13

    In your experience, which will produce more hot (and hotter) water? 1/2 in. x 50 ft. Copper Coil vs 1/2" x 250' PEX Tubing. Placed inside the same sized solar box (all other thing being equal).
    The 2 options are priced reasonably the same.
    Thanks!

    • @zozoart
      @zozoart 3 года назад +1

      now that would be good to know

    • @marcushennings9513
      @marcushennings9513 2 года назад

      Imo and from my experience of living in a Florida sun all will work but copper will not deteriorate like the plastic and rubber.

  • @jokkiossaka3306
    @jokkiossaka3306 5 лет назад +47

    At least show us the temperature of the cold water inlet… thats the most important for me... haha

    • @juanfloreslorente5427
      @juanfloreslorente5427 3 года назад

      +1😉👍

    • @greyham123
      @greyham123 3 года назад +2

      Agreed. Hot hose and hot coil could give those readings. But if left running for a couple of minutes, that temp would drop.

    • @thegallerysalon3856
      @thegallerysalon3856 2 года назад

      @@greyham123 yes. But the price is right and I’m assuming if you use a mixer for showers etc, you’ll extend the amount of water consumption. If it’s well water, 55 degrees.

  • @tomkelly8827
    @tomkelly8827 6 лет назад +2

    I was going to suggest the aluminum and black paint on your last video. As a Canadian the flaw I see is that this is not drainable. The pipes will burst when it freezes. I guess it is small so I could just bring it inside... Then use my wood stove to heat water in winter

    • @reginahousehunters
      @reginahousehunters 4 года назад

      It’s small, just a quick blowout will prevent bursting. Plus the bendable copper is more forgiving.

    • @yourekittenme.
      @yourekittenme. 2 года назад

      I was thinking of hanging in a south-facing window. 🤔

  • @jamesmanis
    @jamesmanis 6 лет назад +7

    Great video. I am researching a way to heat my pool because it is shaded and needs an extra 10 degrees added to it. The 175F is a great temp but my question is around flow rate. I know it is theory, but shouldn't you get a lower temp if you increase the flow rate. For example to heat a pool I would need more flow but get a lower temp? Do you know the flow rate in the video?

    • @ryanserwe5587
      @ryanserwe5587 5 лет назад

      This is the same intent I have. Hoping to heat my pool without having to purchase and fuel a water heater. I would do this on a larger scale though to heat a pool

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 5 лет назад +1

      Copper+Clorine=copper chloride. Saltwater is also corrosive to copper. Check your chemicals before trying this. A pool is also a vast volume of water and this would probably not even raise pool temp by 1 degree in an entire day.

    • @CasuallyObservant
      @CasuallyObservant 3 года назад

      @@penguin12902 - Well silly, it sounds like one is not enough for your application. Make several and get them started and once primed they'll pull the pool water in cool and exit hot. After a week or so, I bet you'll find the difference in pool temp will surprise you.

    • @johnvrabec9747
      @johnvrabec9747 4 месяца назад

      @@penguin12902 I used to use a typical pool cover on my in ground pool Leave it on at night, and all day. Around 3pm, I'd turn my pool pump on for a half hour to circulate the stratified water and I could raise the temp about 2°F per day. I used to do this in March here in AZ so any friends/relatives coming for spring training could swim in 85° water instead of 70°. I'm sure the heat exchanger would do better. I would use the pool water which is warmer than the water coming out of the ground pipes and cycle it through the coils back into the pool.

  • @greyhnd001
    @greyhnd001 5 лет назад +11

    How well does it work in winter time?

    • @Coupe420
      @Coupe420 4 года назад +3

      Lol wont work in the summer! Full sun! Maybe for a kiddie pool, I just put in a pool, cost almost 40k, a cheap pool! No way will this heat 3k gal let alone 20k. It's a great way for a quick warm shower if you're off grid, but it is not a pool heater!

    • @Accumulator1
      @Accumulator1 4 года назад +1

      Non insulated. Heat loss.

  • @nate5520
    @nate5520 2 года назад +1

    Nice setup. Saw quite a bit of youtube videos but really nothing definitive on what's best. Seems like the small copper tubing might be equivalent to the larger 400-500 irrigation plastic piping? Trying to balance cost vs output with regards to heat. Been told irrigation piping deteriorates quickly due to high heat so next best option would be copper/uv protected pex/stainless steel tubing etc.. You've done quite a bit of testing so in your opinion, what setup would be ideal for me? I have a 22k galloon tank so obviously I would need longer runs and more units but realistically it seems like the best I can hope to achieve is 10F more with good sun exposure at best. Any help would be much appreciated thx!

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад +1

      hi there and thanks! well, there's pluses and minuses to all of them. for longevity the copper is the way to go. for price the irrigation tubing is the way to go. (but that only lasts 3 to 5 years in my experience - versus probably 50+ years for the copper). the pex one i made is still going strong at 3+ years so that is a contender too. if you're just experimenting with it - i'd say go with the irrigation tubing first and if you like it you could always upgrade to a longer lasting tube later. if you don't like the performance or have any other issue then you'll have only spent a few dollars for the tubing. the other cool thing about the irrigation tubing is that i built a second 100 foot spiral one in only 45 minutes. the first one took a lot longer but once you get the hang of it it's super easy to make a unit. i can't tell you how much tubing you should use for 22k gallon tank though. you'll have to use your best judgement with that. *by the way - i'll be posting a video compilation of all of my solar water heaters in the near future.

  • @chimpchowder5774
    @chimpchowder5774 5 лет назад +1

    Saweeet!

  • @joed678
    @joed678 3 года назад

    I wonder how a 50 ft copper coil at a 1/2inch would work with more flow? Anyone try something at a larger scale?

  • @jeanettewaverly2590
    @jeanettewaverly2590 6 лет назад +4

    Cool, I mean HOT!

  • @shawnmatthews5118
    @shawnmatthews5118 3 года назад

    What’s the gpm flow rating?

  • @frankenstein3163
    @frankenstein3163 4 года назад

    exilent vids. Would sheet metal work the same ? Or wuld it reduce the thermal ? Also is this vershion beader than you'r last one ?

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 4 года назад

      What kind of metals would you be interested in? Find them laying in the sun, note their condition (clean, dirty, corroded, painted...) and their temperature. Different metals act differently than others. Polished aluminum seems to be the best reflector since it absorbs the least heat. Gold might be better, but try keeping that around.

  • @toddgriffin8354
    @toddgriffin8354 4 года назад

    It’s not that hard to heat water but did it heat the pool on a 70 degree day?

  • @roldude
    @roldude 4 года назад +5

    How about using old aluminium cans flattened out?

    • @growponics9170
      @growponics9170 4 года назад +1

      Wouldmt be hard to run water through them? But you can make something that work, that would be pretty crafty, not to mention, cheap as hell. If you can make it work, please show us how, I'd be interested

    • @yannlapointe5044
      @yannlapointe5044 4 года назад

      As a backing... IMO nice idea!!!

  • @raycaster4398
    @raycaster4398 Год назад

    Add an insulated holding tank for heated water.
    No use heating 2 liters of water in the pipe.

  • @davidlevesque2763
    @davidlevesque2763 3 года назад +1

    Did the zip ties handle the heat over time? Wondering if metal clamps would be more durable for the long term..

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  3 года назад

      hi there . the plastic zip ties are still hanging in their, but the metal or stainless steel ones do better in high heat). all i use now are the stainless steel ones. *on amazon for about 10 bucks.

  • @DataSmithy
    @DataSmithy 4 года назад +6

    I doubt those plastic zip-ties survived more than a year in the Sun. Some type of metal wire connector would be better. But looks like a good solid concept otherwise.

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  4 года назад +6

      hi there. they're still holding strong, but you can always use stainless steel zip ties to be 100% sure. i bought some recently off of amazon. good up to 900F! and only cost 2 bucks more than the plastic ones (100 for about $10)

  • @markwelch1125
    @markwelch1125 2 года назад

    And you can also hang a heat gun up over top warming the pipe like a blow dryer type something that wont catch fire and whatever hole size and that water will be scolding ,andrew dice clay style OHHH!!! 😎

  • @carloscaceresencina5452
    @carloscaceresencina5452 3 года назад

    good,other way put glass up and down from chile

  • @kevinrehak3035
    @kevinrehak3035 6 лет назад +1

    Did you have a problem with condensation? I built this. And I have moisture inside glass

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  6 лет назад

      hi there. i've not had that issue, at least so far. one fix might be to add a few small vent holes

  • @frankenstein3163
    @frankenstein3163 4 года назад

    What does more hot water on a standalone application ? parabolic or this setup ?

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 4 года назад

      I would suspect the one with the most area exposed to direct sunlight would win. Trying to heat the interior is the mistake. Wasted heat. Redirect and focus the energy on the tubing.

  • @paulmilne1481
    @paulmilne1481 5 лет назад +3

    Should have put insulation behind flashing

    • @vincent-usa.
      @vincent-usa. 5 лет назад

      Paul Milne would the flashing reflected the heat to the pipe ?
      In turn it would make the water become hot quicker.

  • @brdwybownd
    @brdwybownd 4 месяца назад

    With the coil getting as hot as it appears. What keeps the tack tie downs from melting at each contact point?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  4 месяца назад

      it would have to be a lot hotter to actually melt the zip ties. they easily handle the heat of this unit. i have started using stainless steel zip ties in some of my newer units. either kind works but the stainless steel ones will last 50 years or more. the plastic ones might dry out or get brittle after 10 -20 years in the sun.

    • @brdwybownd
      @brdwybownd 4 месяца назад

      @@desertsun02 Further, can this unit be use like the Progressiv Passive Solar Water Heater PT-40? It preheats potable water before it enters your hot water heater. My traditional home water heater is electric. I currently have the afore mentioned on my roof. However, it is now leaking. Had to shut it down. In the 20 plus years of its operation it kept my electric bill half of what it is now. Just wondering if this unit would fit the bill?

  • @missdiyer1424
    @missdiyer1424 4 года назад

    Can you use plexiglass instead? I'm thinking for clumsy people it might be a better option

  • @MightyRengarrr
    @MightyRengarrr 8 месяцев назад

    cool this work with pool water?
    im afraid to use copper :/

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  8 месяцев назад +1

      hi. don't be afraid to use copper. it's the best type of metal to use. it works great.

  • @stevedavis7519
    @stevedavis7519 3 года назад

    Would this work for swimming pool or would chemicals damage copper? Debating on doing a pvc breadbox or this.

    • @gentlelove
      @gentlelove 3 года назад

      You should not need chemicals only a solar powered pump or siphon bell. Shalom

  • @januzi2
    @januzi2 3 года назад

    Would you be so kind and make a version that is painted with the vantablack?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  3 года назад

      hi. i've looked into that but so far i can't find vanta for sale to private individuals. if you or (anyone reading this) sees a link for it, drop it in the comments area. if i can get it i'll use it.🙂 looks like a great product for solar

  • @DustInTheWindAZ
    @DustInTheWindAZ 3 года назад +1

    I've watched several videos of similar solar water heaters. My main question is: How long did those zip ties last in the intense heat? Less than one season, I'm thinking...

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  3 года назад +2

      hi there. the plastic ones are holding up good so far, but i've recently started using stainless steel zip ties just to be sure

    • @vapoureyes
      @vapoureyes 3 года назад

      You could probably use electric cable Clips that might fit the pipe.
      Only a thought

  • @yohjokromwood2327
    @yohjokromwood2327 6 лет назад

    hey would this methode on bigger scale work fore desalting sea water ? maby working model on that would be realy cool if you can get the water and boiling temp and keep it there wil low inpute?

  • @rhdtv2002
    @rhdtv2002 4 года назад +1

    Nice - why not use something safer like Pexiglass instead of glass..Is glass always better?It just seems like it will be easy for someone to break it by accident around a pool when kids are having too much of a good time

  • @dennishamilton9113
    @dennishamilton9113 3 года назад

    Could you use one way glass to make the box hotter and not paint the copper or Aluminum?

    • @nice000
      @nice000 2 года назад

      Not painting would reflect a lot of the light and heat. Then the glass could warm up instead of the copper pipe.

  • @Jkauppa
    @Jkauppa 3 года назад

    aluminium curved concentrators, or just fill it 100% with pipe

  • @PaulPetrea
    @PaulPetrea 6 лет назад +1

    Unless I missed it, how long is the copper tubing used? 25 feet, I am assuming here?

    • @henrietterozema8379
      @henrietterozema8379 4 года назад

      Cambodia Paul's Organic Farming
      50 ft.

    • @Coupe420
      @Coupe420 4 года назад +1

      Not enough to heat a bathtub! These cant work! It would take all summer to heat a tiny pool

    • @CasuallyObservant
      @CasuallyObservant 3 года назад

      @@Coupe420 - Geez. You could make 2 or 3 of them if your pool is deep. Put them each on a separate piece of foam and float them in your pool. Begin the drawing of pool water through the siphoning principal into the copper pipe by suction until it is coming out the other end and back into the pool. Note: do this immediately upon placing in the pool and before the water is hot! Remember, this produces 150+ degrees. Place them in the pool on a Wednesday and by the weekend your three floating heaters will have mixed with your cold pool water warming it up FOR FREE and your pool will be nicely swimmable when the blended water hits about 85 degrees.
      Report back if you do this. I'd love to see if it worked.

  • @KoiAquaponics
    @KoiAquaponics 3 года назад +2

    by painting the copper , does it reduce its ability to absorb heat? I thought bare copper conducts heat better.

  • @cjlb49
    @cjlb49 2 года назад

    How well has this been working for you. I was thinking about doing something like this except modify it so that I can remove the tubing from the frame and put it on a firepit for cloudy days. Would that work?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад

      hi there. the unit is still working great. that is an interesting idea about the fire pit.

    • @cjlb49
      @cjlb49 2 года назад +1

      @@desertsun02 thanks for replying. One more question, if you don't mind. Do you know the flow rate of your pump? I have a pump to empty my pool, but I think the flow would be way too fast to heat up in this set up. Any info on the pump you use would be much appreciated. Thanks.

  • @uhdanimalrescueclub6200
    @uhdanimalrescueclub6200 2 года назад

    Hi, another question: I still can't get my solar water heater to work: driving me crazy. I am using 3/32 plate glass from Home Depot, but it appears that you are actually using much thicker glass. Is that so? Is the thicker the glass, the better? What about insulated double panned glass? Or glass from a car window?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад

      hi there. if i remember, the glass i used is about 3/32 (possibly 1/8). i've never had any luck with using more than one sheet of glass. it always seems to reduce the temps. i'm not sure about glass from a car window (i've never used glass from a car).

  • @Scott-jz6te
    @Scott-jz6te 6 лет назад

    I'm considering doing something similar for a solar water heater for an in ground pool. I might need a couple of these in line to make any significant increase in temperature. Do you have any suggestions? My pool is approximately 30,000 gallons.

    • @kevinfleig1557
      @kevinfleig1557 6 лет назад

      Scott Williams hey Scott I was wondering have you made this for your pool yet? I'm considering doing the same thing for my in-ground 30,000 gallons as well. I'm just not sure what size copper line to buy

    • @r3kr
      @r3kr 6 лет назад

      I bet if you have smaller copper lines (4 x 1/4th sized lines) but connect them side by side to a 1 inch pipe it would be better then having everything in 1 inch... ____|____|____|____|

    • @tracythorpe7804
      @tracythorpe7804 4 года назад

      Did you ever try this for your pool?

    • @Scott-jz6te
      @Scott-jz6te 4 года назад

      No, I never did but I always wondered if it would make a significant difference. This year seems to be a bit cooler and the pool is only at 73 degrees. I still have hopes in making this one day.

    • @julianopalma3029
      @julianopalma3029 4 года назад +1

      Scott Williams you would need dozens and dozens of these to increase the T of a volume of water like that. A solar blanket cover would be more efficient.

  • @christoffer1973
    @christoffer1973 3 года назад

    Did you try it painted vs not painted... I think you would be surprised. Why are emergency heat blankets like aluminium foil and not flat black?

    • @jamesmott5181
      @jamesmott5181 Год назад

      So it reflects YOUR body heat back to you. He is trying to gather sunlight and transfer it to the water, not reflect it back.

  • @braydon9493
    @braydon9493 6 лет назад +1

    how is the glass secured to the frame?

    • @jasonglenski
      @jasonglenski 6 лет назад

      Braydon Dahlberg & desertsun02 That's what I was wondering. He has made two of these videos now, neither of which shows how he's securing the glass to the frame after paint..

    • @spencerwilton5831
      @spencerwilton5831 4 года назад

      Jason G Nails..

  • @TomBedlammusic
    @TomBedlammusic 10 месяцев назад

    quick question - is the gland actually necessary or is it just to protect everything?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  10 месяцев назад +1

      hi. the glass makes it work kind of like a solar oven, so the temps get really warm. these type of solar collectors will work pretty well work in the summertime without the glass but it's a lot better to use it.

    • @TomBedlammusic
      @TomBedlammusic 10 месяцев назад

      @@desertsun02 ah ok I see. Makes sense. Thanks for the response

  • @davidkring1050
    @davidkring1050 3 года назад

    would you say this copper heater is a better pool heater than the Pex tubing one you made?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  3 года назад +1

      hi. i'm a big fan of both so you have to look at pluses and minuses. copper holds up practically forever but is more expensive. it's also harder to work with in some cases, say if you're trying to coil 1/2" copper for instance. that's harder than coiling pex. i've also got one made with black irrigation tubing. lots of people use that too but i've found it doesn't hold up long. 3 or 4 years

    • @davidkring1050
      @davidkring1050 3 года назад

      @@desertsun02 thanks. it just seems that copper may be a better transfer of solar heat to the water than pex, and a hotter flow

  • @hdrjunkie
    @hdrjunkie 4 года назад

    ok so im hearing all sorts of differing things here... i thought 3/8th tube would be too small and not let enough water pass through to actually heat a pool with any real efficiency? then i heard coils are a bad idea and that a header with straight tubes would work better and let you get a higher flow into the pool. then theres the whole Pump pressure thing... thats a whole other story!

  • @ladyrenaissance2026
    @ladyrenaissance2026 5 лет назад +4

    Is it okay to do this if I use chlorine in my pool?? Ive heard chlorine and copper tubing isnt a good combo

    • @johnmalaihollo
      @johnmalaihollo 3 года назад

      Just test it drop a piece of copper pipe in a glass of pool water.

    • @charlesharris412
      @charlesharris412 3 года назад

      @@johnmalaihollo use couper/nickle tubing it isn't affected by clorine !

  • @aarongillette4431
    @aarongillette4431 2 года назад

    Help! Mine doesn't work! Based on suggestions below, I used copper plates rather than aluminum; put insulation behind the plates, used metal zip ties, and two panes of glass, and insulated the glass to wood gap. I am using a pond pump to pump water from a small pond to the heater, and then return--black tubing throughout. Due to trees, I can get only perhaps 90% sunlight for several hours. Yet it seems that the water hardly increases in temperature, if at all! I spent like $300 on this, thus pis--ng off my wife, and countless hours. Please tell me what I did wrong!

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад

      hi there. the issue might be that you used 2 panes of glass. sounds like a good idea but whenever i've used 2 or 3 panes of glass (in experiments) with solar box collectors - the 2 or 3 panes block a lot of the light from getting through and it gets nowhere near as hot. i'm not sure why an extra pane blocks so much light but it does.

  • @gonzar11
    @gonzar11 3 года назад +5

    Air temp= 90F, temo water in =??, water put = 150F, should I make some sort of equation to find out temp water in to know how efficient your heat exchanger is? 😂

  • @josevelasco3245
    @josevelasco3245 2 года назад

    Is 3/8” the ID or OD?

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  2 года назад +1

      hi there. it's the ID 👍

  • @jasonmicalizzi3240
    @jasonmicalizzi3240 Год назад

    I don’t know if this is relevant but the copper heating element in our previous gas pool heater became exposed internally and our pool discolored from the copper. It was a bitch to get out. We had to use chelating agents and it took awhile at a significant cost.

    • @desertsun02
      @desertsun02  Год назад

      hi. these units won't get the water hot enough to discolor it. (it would have to be way over boiling temps for that to occur). the copper tubing i use in my solar water heaters ia the same copper that is used worldwide for hot water lines in houses and commercial buildings.

    • @jasonmicalizzi3240
      @jasonmicalizzi3240 Год назад

      Thanks for the reply. Good to know. Question if you don’t mind: Do commercial solar pool panels, strung together, put out hotter water than this or do they put out hot water at a higher flow rate ? What’s the difference ?