Best Teams for Jane Doe in Zenless Zone Zero

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @mohamedsaid2227
    @mohamedsaid2227 3 месяца назад +116

    if CCs dont start pulling numbers and run speed test my brain gone blow up , everyone saying a diffrent thing about jane , poke said she have down time so best to have breaker , some say she wants to be on field all the time some say she wants something like grace for disorder some said disorder is just bad , it doesnt make any sense at all

    • @TheKamiSama0
      @TheKamiSama0 3 месяца назад +41

      As someone who tends to not trust content creators, I can confirm EOD is generally who you want to listen to. Of course never blindly trust anyone, but in my experience, EOD tends to have good opinion and his info tends to be reliable

    • @Rookmai
      @Rookmai 3 месяца назад +15

      Looks like Jane is flexible then. A stunner will make it safer for her to do her thing and get full passion easier. A fellow anomaly character for disorder would also be good, provided we get one that can quickly proc their anomaly, and give field time back to Jane.

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад +2

      There has been numbers, but those are from theoretical beta stats. Now the question is what's good in release, as Disorder just got changed recently.

    • @dropshock284
      @dropshock284 3 месяца назад +13

      Longer comment after this post, but tldr: it’s not that CCs are untrustworthy, it’s that Jane’s unique requirements means that much is up to personal preference, at least on release
      I think what we see hear is what you’ll see from most characters in the game. ZZZ is a game where personal comfort and playstyle has a big impact on “best options.” It was easier with Ellen because she obviously wants ice and her best team was there on release. For ZY, her best teammate is free and next best was the patch directly after.
      For Jane, her best teammates aren’t here yet, and Anomaly/Disorder is a less-explored damage-type than traditional crit. So a lot of the options comes down to what feels best to the individual. She won’t have an obviously best team until Burnice drops.

    • @mohamedsaid2227
      @mohamedsaid2227 3 месяца назад

      @@dropshock284 meta got nothing to do with personal preference if it helps u to plan and save money on charcter that may or may not work with her , there is a fastest clear time build/team and there is the rest of the build/team , play what u want but if we talk about best meta team comp only clear speed matters

  • @gabrielctpn
    @gabrielctpn 3 месяца назад +62

    IM CONFUSED. Every CC's has different opinions on Grace. Some say she takes too much on field time, some says she not. what is happening xd

    • @grumpy3040
      @grumpy3040 3 месяца назад +23

      idk why they think she procs shock slow because for me its fast asf. It sounds like there hating for no reason or they just dont have grace. XD

    • @vladtepesx3
      @vladtepesx3 3 месяца назад +24

      Grace needs like 1 combo to apply anomaly, what are they talking about lol

    • @gabrielctpn
      @gabrielctpn 3 месяца назад +2

      @@grumpy3040 at this point i don't know which one to believe. i have Grace/Piper/Lucy that I'm still not building due to this reason. I dont like Burnice nor Ceasar cuz im hoping Yanagi might be a electric support for anomaly or she's the electric anomaly character herself so if I'm going to build Grace, she might stay longer if Yanagi is an anomaly focused electric support agent.

    • @tipithedhedhistar4132
      @tipithedhedhistar4132 3 месяца назад +2

      @@grumpy3040another factor is if the enemy is electric weak or not. Caused build up is even faster. Also the shiyu defense buff is extremely good for Qingyi

    • @yugieuw
      @yugieuw 3 месяца назад

      some CCs dont know how to play her

  • @FrostShard1337
    @FrostShard1337 3 месяца назад +25

    0:00 Team 1
    2:37 Team 2
    5:09 Team 3
    6:18 F2P Team

    • @keyqui05
      @keyqui05 3 месяца назад

      Whats the point of team 2? Jane wants to dodge the hit, not have the enemy stunned

  • @Yasviele
    @Yasviele 3 месяца назад +13

    If anyone wants to play her with Piper, once Piper uses her fourth normal attack where she swings the axe over her head, you can immediately activate the spin in full speed (with enough energy of course)and when she's spinning you can swap to the next character and Piper will finish her attack beside the next one, they both need time on field but I hope this helps you with Jane that needs way more

    • @cawashka
      @cawashka 3 месяца назад

      you can activate the spin at full speed after her 2nd attack

    • @Scummoner
      @Scummoner 3 месяца назад +1

      @@cawashka the second attack overhead swing is after a dodge counter not in the normal attack string.

    • @russellpierce3987
      @russellpierce3987 3 месяца назад +2

      yeah i see people not doing this with piper and it drives me nuts lmao, her application is so much faster when you actually use her spin right

    • @ButtKraken01
      @ButtKraken01 3 месяца назад

      A regular dash attack (doesn't need to be a dodge counter) leads to full speed too and is much quicker.

  • @BlackMagister
    @BlackMagister 3 месяца назад +30

    So content creators seem to be split on whether Grace is good with Jane. A lot of them say Grace takes too much field time so it's not a comfortable play style, but she still does good damage just not the optimal comp in their opinion.
    I'm excited to try Grace Seth Jane because I think if invested Grace can pull off the disorder comp well without stealing too much field time from Jane. It's a team comp that only requires one limited character and should definitely be fun to see big disorder numbers

    • @specter21_96
      @specter21_96 3 месяца назад +13

      I've noticed this too. I don't really understand the on-field time issue; Grace applies shock so fast, so I don't feel like she will be stepping on Jane's toes

    • @lamlai123
      @lamlai123 3 месяца назад +1

      @@specter21_96jane apply it even faster, and to your surprise, her kit are so good that her on field time with seth alone and without needing a disorder proc actually perform in dps better than disorder comp 😅

    • @ActuallyFir
      @ActuallyFir 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@lamlai123without actual numbers, this can't be proven. All I want is a comparison video on shiyu defense time clears.

    • @BlackMagister
      @BlackMagister 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@ActuallyFircontent creators get access to a test server so they can do Shibuya def with any comp in that serve and some have talked about their runs. So they are doing some in game testing but I'm still sceptical

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад +1

      @@specter21_96 She'll need a battery so all she does is EX Special Attack. Without it, you'll want her to normal attack a lot to build up Energy.

  • @StrangeWun
    @StrangeWun 3 месяца назад +7

    As someone whose only S is Neko and Lycaon and I have no Piper, I feel that summoning for Jane Doe might be a mistake for me, but her play style seems like fun, and she looks awesome 😭

    • @kingv-raptor840
      @kingv-raptor840 3 месяца назад

      1.2 banners are Sons of Caladon, Piper will show up on a banner that patch. If you just want assault triggers for Nekomatta, C0-2 Piper is more than enough and allows you to use Lucy for an attack boost. Jane is currently stuck with Sett + Anomaly for any worthwhile teams. Just wait for the rerun when you have anomaly characters. Not to mention, Caesar + Piper should be a better team for Neko.

  • @nonsenseraiwaja7209
    @nonsenseraiwaja7209 3 месяца назад +10

    I feel like this is the most reasonable take on Jane. Some CCs say she is bad with disorder, it feels so ridiculous that anomaly unit won't play well with disorder.

    • @CaptianAwesome
      @CaptianAwesome 3 месяца назад

      @@nonsenseraiwaja7209 she might be great in the future with different anomaly characters, but seems like every CCs that got to play her thought her with Grace was just okay.

  • @eurekadiaz3771
    @eurekadiaz3771 3 месяца назад +3

    Luci and Rina are highly underrated supports for Jane, M2-6 Luci gives 600 atk that lasts for a long time while her boars does nice amount of damage, not to mention Jane would have under 3k atk when maxxed with AP build so 600 atk & Luci sig buff are highly valuable. Rina has a really short field time, quite a bit of grouping, and her M1 is just busted.

    • @loreyxillumina
      @loreyxillumina 3 месяца назад +1

      Lucy with Burnice and Jane is going to be crazy

  • @AnnaTation
    @AnnaTation 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks so much for this video EOD! One team you didn’t mention that I was curious about was Jane Grace Rina though? I was lucky enough to get Grace and Rina from standard banner in the beginning, and I’m wondering if running Rina and Jane will be better for disorder or to use Seth?

  • @sgt.nuclear
    @sgt.nuclear 3 месяца назад +1

    I just spun on the banner and my main options are
    Jane, Seth, Rina(c1)
    or
    Jane, Rina(c1), Anby
    or
    Jane, Seth, Anby
    which should i pick?

  • @russellpierce3987
    @russellpierce3987 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel like a lot of the creators with both ellen and zhu yuan haven't actually had to fully learn everything about disorder team to play right. It took me a while to finally get into the groove of my grace/piper/rina build but now even without jane doe and seth it's not very far behind my c1 ellen lycaon team that's equivalently geared. I suspect there will be either a shiyu mode or some sort of future content where stun is much less useful and anomaly/disorder is better. I feel nineveh 11/11 is already that way with how short stun window is

  • @bookmarker2891
    @bookmarker2891 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m running nekomata with my revolverboo since the new event w engine and 4 piece blues effect synergize perfectly with ex spam nekomata

  • @francisdl5467
    @francisdl5467 3 месяца назад +2

    Nicole def down, qingyi stun multiplier, Jane crit assault + get passion immediately after stun chain attack.

  • @gan9620
    @gan9620 3 месяца назад +2

    Every CCs really going south and north about JD. I just follow my intrusive thoughts about pair her with Piper and Lucy, It's quite an investment and replace piper with Burnice later. Both Lucy and Burnice could go help while off-field and JD can go wild on-field

    • @jeffkoenig7402
      @jeffkoenig7402 3 месяца назад

      @@RafaelBanks69 both Piper and Burnice are anomaly agents

  • @joel._official_music
    @joel._official_music 3 месяца назад +1

    Piper actually buffs Jane, although she takes field time she is building up anomaly dmg and with freedom blues disk she reduces anomaly res.

  • @cefka100
    @cefka100 3 месяца назад +1

    Perfect timing as always!

  • @fattyflip4168
    @fattyflip4168 3 месяца назад +11

    "Mono anomaly team" sounds a bit misleading, especially when we come from HSR where "mono element" means all units are of the same element. Just my 2 cents. Cool video though!

  • @captainp367
    @captainp367 3 месяца назад

    Which bangboo are you planning to get to use with her?

  • @JT-vn2rl
    @JT-vn2rl 3 месяца назад

    What do you think about qing yi and grace? I hate to have to build 2 characters when I'm struggling when shiyu 17

  • @akuinasantoni4362
    @akuinasantoni4362 3 месяца назад

    I think i get it why CC's didnt recomend grace. They focused on the Jane's max lv and playstyle. Disorder isnt needed where Jane's max potential will focus on the speed of anomaly buildup. It means CC's prefer a hypercarry team. But ofc in my opinion its a different case if the enemy have a physical resistant, then team building with grace is preferable

  • @Pratish85
    @Pratish85 3 месяца назад +1

    How would you get copies of battlepass w-engines to get more stars on them?

    • @soundplayground3742
      @soundplayground3742 3 месяца назад +1

      I think you just have to repurchase it every month in order to get more copies of the W-Engines.

  • @martinatan2709
    @martinatan2709 3 месяца назад +1

    is it possible to run Jane with Koleda & Lucy/Soldier 11? or am i coping so hard 😂

    • @keyqui05
      @keyqui05 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes you can, there's no rules against it

    • @soundplayground3742
      @soundplayground3742 3 месяца назад

      Play however you want and have fun 😊!

  • @SIDTeamFlav
    @SIDTeamFlav 3 месяца назад

    What is the song playing in the background?

  • @Saimeigaming
    @Saimeigaming 3 месяца назад +2

    yeah every CC every new comp and opinion . guess shes a good then because very flexible right . surely

  • @MrAngryTurtle
    @MrAngryTurtle 3 месяца назад

    if in team 1 replace Sett with Rina will it work good?

  • @Shiraion
    @Shiraion 3 месяца назад +1

    Wait until they make a unit that let disorder crit and look how diabolical disorder team with her become😂

  • @antoniatepox
    @antoniatepox 3 месяца назад +2

    Can Jane Doe, Seth, and Rina work?

    • @115TheLeo
      @115TheLeo 3 месяца назад

      This is my question, I feel like it's viable but I'm wondering if I'm missing something major, Rina needs little field time and Seth's pivot function will help him keep Jane on field as needed.

    • @andysabur4966
      @andysabur4966 3 месяца назад

      I hope so as I do have a decently built Rina, but I just realized it's kinda funny that there's no link between Seth and Rina. Seth's quick assist is backwards so he links to Jane, Rina's quick assist is forward so she links to Jane too.
      My current guess is Rina only manually comes out when Seth applies shock so she can skill into Jane into assault for disorder?? While waiting for that just keep Jane/Seth comboing I guess

    • @antoniatepox
      @antoniatepox 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@RafaelBanks69good because I got her m1

  • @streamofmight
    @streamofmight 3 месяца назад

    Should I build an electric team? So far I have a Zhu Yuan/Qingyi/Nicole and Nekomata/Piper/Lucy team. I managed to 5S + 1A + 1B this current SD cycle. I missed S on SD6 by 40ish seconds and A on SD7 by 1 min.
    Zhu Yuan is so strong that I can brute force most of the time, but the other side it can be a pain to brute force with Neko team.
    I currently have a M6 Anton, M0 Rina and M2 Anby, M0 Koleda and an untouched Soukaku, Corin, Billy, Ben (Ben is M6)
    I don't have Grace, Lycaon, Ellen and S11.
    I don't know whether to be happy or not but I have 2 Brimstones (why the fuck do I need 2 Brimstones?)
    I am a welkin only player (forgot the name for ZZZ, it's the daily polychromes one).
    Naturally with the resources the characters are quite half assed. I prioritize leveling to 60, supports to 55, W engines to 60, supports to 50, Core skill to D and skills to 7/12, with very average discs. After that I probably will go Core Skill to F and key skills to 12/12
    I don't know whether I should continue to go heavy investment on my physical team or to build a brand new electric team. I am liking Jane Doe but I am undecided on whether I should pull for her.
    Advice would be appreciated! Thank you!

    • @streamofmight
      @streamofmight 3 месяца назад

      @@RafaelBanks69 Thank you for advice, it is really needed. In that case do you suggest me to continue pumping resources into Neko team and not building an electric team?

    • @streamofmight
      @streamofmight 3 месяца назад

      @@RafaelBanks69 thank you. I will follow your path!

  • @GGJD100
    @GGJD100 3 месяца назад +2

    What on you thoughts on Jane, Nicole, and Zhu, with a Ether bangboo?
    I feel like Jane can play on field for a long time, Nicole and Zhu (and bangboo) can occasionally proc Corruption for disorder now and then and Zhu can still come in and do damage during stun windows. Plus Nicole can buff both Jane and Zhu at any time. It seems like it could be solid.

  • @kkodeko
    @kkodeko 3 месяца назад +1

    will jane burnice lucy work?

    • @juggernaut6666
      @juggernaut6666 3 месяца назад

      It will, but more than likely, piper is just far better there, which is the problem jane has atm.

    • @tipithedhedhistar4132
      @tipithedhedhistar4132 3 месяца назад +1

      @@juggernaut6666why is piper better here? Jane is just better than Piper and all the core passives are already activated.
      Though according to calcs Jane Caesar Burnice will be best by far if no nerfs happen

    • @lclevivadakushan3778
      @lclevivadakushan3778 3 месяца назад

      @@tipithedhedhistar4132 True. Piper is not even close to Jane, while Caesar and Burnice team will be "lit".

    • @juggernaut6666
      @juggernaut6666 3 месяца назад

      @@tipithedhedhistar4132 lucy with her core ability actually deals decent off field damage. So the teamwide damage buff piper gives is going to be boosting burnice and lucy narrowing the gap significantly between her and jane.
      Plus piper is most likely going to be on the burnice banner so you could get them at the same time saving a lot of pulls.

  • @Reverse99ftp
    @Reverse99ftp 3 месяца назад

    I already have Grace and Rina so probably I'm gonna go for Jane-Grace-Rina..
    I got Grace in the first 50 pulls and Rina in 2nd pity standard pulls. I'm lucky not to pull W-engine since I prefer characters.. xD

  • @HakemzOfficial
    @HakemzOfficial 3 месяца назад

    I have no more choices but Jane+Seth+Anby is that a really good F2P team for Jane?

  • @Rookmai
    @Rookmai 3 месяца назад

    Soukaku works, just swap her in to apply fly the flag, and swap her out for 22s. Jane will hey plenty of field time.

  • @DegenerateDuck
    @DegenerateDuck 3 месяца назад

    What about bangboo?

  • @mohdfarkhan3856
    @mohdfarkhan3856 3 месяца назад

    The most logical last slot for me is lucy..jane seth lucy..

  • @zzzzzygaming
    @zzzzzygaming 3 месяца назад +1

    is Jane, Ceasar, Burnice good?
    or Jane Piper Lucy?
    (I dont want to build Seth)

    • @loreyxillumina
      @loreyxillumina 3 месяца назад +1

      I believe Jane, Burnice and Lucy will be good since Burnice is said to be an off field Anomaly dps so disorder comp will be good

  • @tonionon
    @tonionon 3 месяца назад

    just in time

  • @novemberguy
    @novemberguy 3 месяца назад

    Man I'm really excited for Jane but I do NOT want to drop my beloved Piper :'(

  • @beserklee290
    @beserklee290 3 месяца назад +1

    Best team for jane = jane,CK,seth or jane,burnice,CK!

    • @luid961
      @luid961 3 месяца назад

      Who's KC?

    • @Luneshade
      @Luneshade 3 месяца назад +1

      @@luid961 I assume they mean Caesar King

    • @tipithedhedhistar4132
      @tipithedhedhistar4132 3 месяца назад

      Caesar and Burnice if beta stays the same

  • @andrewflkamic8015
    @andrewflkamic8015 3 месяца назад

    Can you make a video on the mindscapes, please?

  • @silthzear6440
    @silthzear6440 3 месяца назад +1

    People in here: blowing up which team Jane is preferred with.
    Billy mains: *continues break the meta even sub one min on SD17*

  • @cinnamo7
    @cinnamo7 3 месяца назад

    7 seconds ago is crazy

  • @ethan8084
    @ethan8084 3 месяца назад

    caser

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 3 месяца назад +1

    I think her biggest problem is she has no ideal 3rd teamate. And the upcoming ones like burnice probably synergize better with Piper. Narrowing the gap between jane and Piper significantly. She really needs a good physical support. I doubt they will let ceasar and seths shields stack.

    • @tipithedhedhistar4132
      @tipithedhedhistar4132 3 месяца назад

      Her best team according to tc calcs will be Caesar and Burnice. Burnice core passive also activated by another anomaly so they will synergise with eachother and Caesar’s is activated by all characters with a defensive assist (pretty much all melee characters in this game and Nicole)

  • @heartisles
    @heartisles 3 месяца назад +1

    this is just feelscrafting may I see some numbers plz

  • @akkyura00
    @akkyura00 3 месяца назад

    who cares about meta dude, i only comb what looks cool

  • @weylyn080
    @weylyn080 3 месяца назад

    how about Grace Jane Piper 🎉

  • @kenshi3942
    @kenshi3942 3 месяца назад +1

    Ngl i just dont ever see disorder teams being competitive with the stun/support/dps comps unless they change something. Disorder seems great in theory but is awkward to play in practice and the damage still pales in comparison to the other comps

    • @tipithedhedhistar4132
      @tipithedhedhistar4132 3 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps not. But hoyo gets to choose the meta.
      The same could be said about Super break in HSR. Moc buffs. Enemy mechanics etc make it broken despite them having a lower ceiling than traditional dps’s.
      They can make un stun able enemies/ anomaly immune enemies (I am pretty sure these already exist in the game).
      So the real answer is the meta is what hoyo wants it to be

    • @EnZore
      @EnZore 3 месяца назад +1

      It's because there NONE char that play with it. U need OFF FIELD anomaly build+onfield anomaly buildup. In current game, all anomaly unit hungry for field time which they'll compete with each other, thats why it feels weird to play

    • @kenshi3942
      @kenshi3942 3 месяца назад

      @@EnZore not really, obvs burnice will be better but I use grace and she can easily apply shock with 1 full combo and you can sub her in and out pretty fast

    • @jeffkoenig7402
      @jeffkoenig7402 3 месяца назад

      People thought the same about elemental reaction teams in Genshin but then dendro happened
      It all comes down to what's available in the character pool. A year from now it's possible - maybe even probable - people will think you're crazy if you're *not* playing disorder.
      Personally I just keep in mind it's early and I'm glad that for this game Hoyo made five character classes and room to grow into viable specialties for all of them.

  • @veemon9009
    @veemon9009 3 месяца назад +4

    why is there not a fucking f2p anomaly
    i'm level 43, 36 pity on event banner, pitied an S rank twice on standard.
    AND NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PIPER JUST THESE STUPID ASS A RANK WEAPONS WHAT THE HELL?

    • @Kongyewest
      @Kongyewest 3 месяца назад +9

      You can grab a single copy of piper on the signal shop if you really want her, otherwise the rate up banner isn’t until burnice’s in 7 weeks

    • @vansdaman615
      @vansdaman615 3 месяца назад

      If you pulling that many times then you should def have enough to just get her in the shop while she’s still there. That’s what I did with Lucy.

  • @AzYNkeeb
    @AzYNkeeb 3 месяца назад

    2nd

  • @samsan4644
    @samsan4644 3 месяца назад

    I was so hype for Jane in the beginning but seeing her kit now, I felt like she is a disappointment. She tries to be a crti base DPS and an anomaly character at the same time and does not excel in either categories, maybe leaning more toward DPS side. I mean when you see anomaly, you would want to build a disorder team, like big number for anomaly proficiency and mastery. Seth on the other hand is a must pull for any anomaly team especially for Grace.

    • @CaptianAwesome
      @CaptianAwesome 3 месяца назад +4

      Jane’s assaults can crit, but the crit rate is based on anomaly proficiency. So, no reason to build her like a crit dps.
      You can play her like a crit DPS though, burn through her Passion Stream, stun, then burst DPS.

    • @erronmorales
      @erronmorales 3 месяца назад +3

      ehh?? she does excel as an anomaly unit and her anomaly build up is insane. You don't even need that much crit rate if you give her atleast 300 anomaly mastery which gives her additional 39% crit rate + 23% base crit rate from her core passive. and that's already 62% crit rate without any crit rate on your drive disks lol. you only really need anomaly/cdmg/atk% on substats and cr is just a bonus for more consistent crit. even then anomaly still adds more value because it basically gives you 2 stats

    • @Shiraion
      @Shiraion 3 месяца назад +3

      That what happen when you jump directly to the team video without looking at the kit explanation first 😂😂

    • @Dimpslilbro
      @Dimpslilbro 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@erronmoralesshe doesn't gain anything from crit rate or crit dmg sub stats unfortunately. So anomaly prof and atk are her best subs

    • @samsan4644
      @samsan4644 3 месяца назад

      @@erronmorales yeah your right. I am not saying she is bad or anything, it's just that I want to build a disorder team and her kit isn't for that. I mean the way I see it, the best element to give disorder big dmg number are from electric, ether and fire element where as ice and physical are elements used only as the trigger for the disorder effect. Her kit seem to be fine on it's own. All her anomaly stats are used to boost HER dmg output, which correspond to her taking most of the field time, doing all the dodge counter to keep up her passion state up. In short I would probably define her kit as a DPS who uses anomaly stats for dmg, so her team are the typical stun buff support team. So my point is, in those role, Colin and Necromata are not that much far behind. And to use her to trigger disorder is a waste of her kit for which piper is more than enough for that role.

  • @stewie_
    @stewie_ 3 месяца назад

    The truth is we don't have a full team for her, and since everything is unknown, that's a skip for me.

  • @yuze6889
    @yuze6889 3 месяца назад +1

    fck seth..male characters dont have room on my team HAHAHAHAHAHAH i love how everyone is confused who to team up with her hahahahah ill be running Jane with ZY and Ellen coz waifu > meta!!! hahahaha