gearwire .I admire your effort to making this tutorial nicely up to your knowledge. there are so many comments on your mistakes from experts but no one tried to make their own expertise tutorial as you do.you have used your voice nicely to the demonstration. Please keep it up your good work at your best.Good luck!
Wow, this is a very comprehensive video on compression technologies for making pro sounding music, and Bill Holland is a natural born teacher, impressive amount of knowledge shared in this video, clear and concise without any fluff, any lay person can glean useful information out of this great video! Gearwire would be wise to feature Bill Holland on more music production tutorials.
Not sure about the SC enable, but this is one of the better tutorials on the DBX compressor…..Very simple explanation on it's operation….. That's one thing I believe the "Teckys" forget…. When they are explaining a product like the DBX, a Tascam Digital recorder, a Vox Modeling amp, or anything on that list that has more than three knobs on it, They are not talking to Engineers was a Master's degree, they are talking to a bunch of Musicians!! … I've been a Musician for many, Many years and played with some of the best….. Just because you are a good musician doesn't mean you have the ability to understand the high tech end of the business. That's a whole other part of the brain!….. So on behalf of all dedicated Musicians, Thank you for a tutorial explaining the DBX using common sense , not forgetting that Musicians are using this product, not Rocket scientists!!……….By the way, this is a great product… We use this compressor in our practice room and we have achieved a good, a balanced sound! … excellent!!!
for home use, buy one of these from your local buy and sell, i will say, for 150 dollars used, one can not get a better dual channel unit. great value, and it works good.
wow this is the updated version with gate release time, thus it allows a smoother transition to lower ambient noise levels during tacet sections. I still prefer to use these for drums, bass and percussive sounds. it's very fast and clean.
I use one of these inline last with Marshall JTM and a JCM 800. I can get higher frequencies with out the feedback, buzz, click and hiss. This helps with balancing out floor effects, even older floor effects. At the end of the day I can play as loud as the amp will go but no feedback or any other unwanted noise.
You lost me when you said SC Enable made your voice smoother. Its Side-Chain enable... Meaning the gate acting on a sound would be triggered by a different source. Why make tutorials when you don't know what you're talking about?
Thanks, I normally just use a preamp to a tube pre into the laptop and compress on the software programs. So is it better to hook the mic in directly then run it to the preamp? Or to hook the muc into the preamp and then the compressor to the laptop?
I really enjoyed this video. I recently purchased a different model (the dbx 266xs), and purchased it to reduce the loud commercials from the cable company and loud music when watching a Netflix movie. I will review this video tomorrow and hope it directly corresponds to my particular machine. Thanks.
Using condenser microphone is very complicated. This man using that mic for this presentation to show us easily to hear the effects of the compressor when turning the knobs.
My mixer is old does not have inserts nor auxiliary, I’m thinking of connecting a mic into dbx compressor then chain output to an eq then finally goes into a mixer . What is your advice I don’t have a compressor yeti
"IF I YELL REALLY LOUD YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S AT THE SAME VOLUME"! This would be because you're yelling at the same volume, since the gain reduction meter doesn't even engage. Oh dear.
I've heard this low cost compressor used to great effect on recordings. Never used it myself but would definitely consider buying and using it without any concerns. Great video too I learned how the sidechain works on hardware compressors. Thanks for the upload. Wish you would do a full feature review of the Focusrite Platinum Compounder...
Awesome! Thank you for the tutorial:) The last thing that you talked about where it can go to a splitter... what do the two ends of the "Y" each plug in to? Thanks:)
For a live sound of a band should I input the mixer on the limiter and then on the crossover? This way I will only have the compression and limiting options for the final sound of the mixer, is that correct?
After watching your vid. I liked a lot. Keep sharing. I'm a mobile/home DJ. I've wanted a L/C to controll the unexpected highs and drop offs when I play a set. .From what you have described. I can insert the DBX L/C into my EQ output and then plug my powered Mackie speakers into the L/c to achieve a smooth level sounding output. Does this sound like a correct application to perform? This would also work with recording onto CD- R and Tape machines. Your response would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Leon Addison.
Can this unit be connected to the Pioneer djm-800 Mixer to control a power sub (Behringer B1800 D and two self powered tops spakers (ELX EV15P? Please response, thanks...
this is the best demo i've watch,so i can apply this to my unit,sir can u post a recommended settings for compressor expander & gate?cause i have a small set up of P.A system it will help me alot to make my sound real good to hear,and thanks for the info this really helpfull,,
That's the easiest part, plugging in some XLR and TRS cables located in the rear of the unit. It's understanding compression theory and configuring the compressor for use in the real world that's the hardest part.
i just bought one of these 2nd hand for £90. I used to have a Focusrite Compounder which cost £325, and the DBX new would be cheaper than this anyway - personally it pisses all over the Compounder for the money, instantly more satifying results, great machine.
In the video description you say: "Understanding compressors is as integral to recording and mixing audio as is understanding what a Decibel is." I say: "Understanding compressors is as integral to demonstrating and reviewing compressors as is understanding what a crappy compressor review is."
What's the difference between this compressor and the compressor built inside the software like in Garage Band Pro tools and Ableton cause the compressor in Audacity wasn't good enough for me, so i thought about getting a actual compressor to keep my voice leveled with the beat and i wounder would that do the trick may some 1 give me any help or tips ?
Wow, this guy does not know how to use this compressor. SC enable is for external side chaining. Also he was waiting for the threshold light to turn yellow indicating the signal was going above the threshold but you notice it didn't. There was not enough gain going into the compressor. He ignored this and moved right along.
what that mean you you say it mutes my raps when i plug the mic in ? Do that mean i can't hear myself with the headphones when i rap ? So i guess it could compress my voice at the same time i rap is that a yes or a no ?
@tubenshaft Yes I 've heard my raps. And besides going to work from my 9-5 I . rather be recording cause rap is where it's at. Plus I come what a positive message to uplift people telling them ways on how to be real. And I also do my homework this is why I'm here checking out these videos.
No. The gate silences the input when the volume is lower than what you set. So you put it between the noise room and your voice or instrument volume. When your voice or instrument is not playing it will cut the noise of the room. When the volume gets higher the audio wil pass trough.
Scratch what the video describes, the person didn't really understand the unit, or even proper gain staging. The gate "closes" (mutes anything below the set threshold), and the "Release" function is to set how long it takes for the gate to close again.
Stop you connected mic straight in compressor? My aplause! Guys before you doing something stupid like this read about line input, mic input and instrument input and what difference they have and why you will not want to connect microphone directly into compressor! By the way i would like to see how you will hook up condenser mic (+48 V) about DBX 286XL i know its have onboard pre amplifier and that is ok to connect straight into it!
Apparently the guy in the video hasn't a clue. When he had it set limiting, and he was yelling into the 57, clipping the audio, he wasn't even getting any gain reduction on the meters, What an awful demo. What he was saying was correct in theory, but the compressor was not doing what he thought it was doing.
Pretty sure your gain structure is in fact horrible, never seen my DBX react that way, either something wrong with yours or your levels are extremely far off…
Yeah, it seemed like somethin' fricken' weird was going on in this video. I'm new to compression and limiting, but something didn't seem right, here...
I need your advice since you already own a DBX. I already have a 286s that I use for vocals. In a singer-songwriter set-up where I also want to play a mic'd up acoustic guitar simultaneously as I'm singing but also want to have the acoustic guitar mic to have a seperate compression with its own tweaked levels, do I get another 286s for this purpose or a dbx 166xl? Which would you get for just the mic'd up guitar? It seems that the 286s works fine but would the 166xl work better for this purpose? Pretend that I'm recording into a 4-track cassette TEAC 144 (from 1979) recorder. So no DAW no effects, dry everything. Just raw but even-sounding. Which would you choose? I heard the de-esser also works to tame the brightness of brighter acoustic guitars.
get yourself a decent camera or remake that movie with the right focus on the panel, soooo bad to watch ! did't find the right information about that gear, sorry
Stay away from this crap. I have owned and used this "circuit design", for many years. Not good for any type of analogue or digital source. Try a real compressor and see.
The noise floor on this recording is bananas😆
this is the best demonstration on compressors limiters and gates I have seen yet.
gearwire .I admire your effort to making this tutorial nicely up to your knowledge. there are so many comments on your mistakes from experts but no one tried to make their own expertise tutorial as you do.you have used your voice nicely to the demonstration. Please keep it up your good work at your best.Good luck!
Wow, this is a very comprehensive video on compression technologies for making pro sounding music, and Bill Holland is a natural born teacher, impressive amount of knowledge shared in this video, clear and concise without any fluff, any lay person can glean useful information out of this great video!
Gearwire would be wise to feature Bill Holland on more music production tutorials.
This comment was clearly written by Bill Holland
Thanks, Bill. That was informative. I just picked up a used 266XL, and this was helpful. Happy Holidays!
I just ordered mine for gate purpose, how is that unit for your opinion ?
Not sure about the SC enable, but this is one of the better tutorials on the DBX compressor…..Very simple explanation on it's operation….. That's one thing I believe the "Teckys" forget…. When they are explaining a product like the DBX, a Tascam Digital recorder, a Vox Modeling amp, or anything on that list that has more than three knobs on it, They are not talking to Engineers was a Master's degree, they are talking to a bunch of Musicians!! … I've been a Musician for many, Many years and played with some of the best….. Just because you are a good musician doesn't mean you have the ability to understand the high tech end of the business. That's a whole other part of the brain!….. So on behalf of all dedicated Musicians, Thank you for a tutorial explaining the DBX using common sense , not forgetting that Musicians are using this product, not Rocket scientists!!……….By the way, this is a great product… We use this compressor in our practice room and we have achieved a good, a balanced sound! … excellent!!!
for home use, buy one of these from your local buy and sell, i will say, for 150 dollars used, one can not get a better dual channel unit. great value, and it works good.
very very helpful this thing has been a mystery to me now I get it!
wow this is the updated version with gate release time, thus it allows a smoother transition to lower ambient noise levels during tacet sections. I still prefer to use these for drums, bass and percussive sounds. it's very fast and clean.
I use one of these inline last with Marshall JTM and a JCM 800. I can get higher frequencies with out the feedback, buzz, click and hiss. This helps with balancing out floor effects, even older floor effects. At the end of the day I can play as loud as the amp will go but no feedback or any other unwanted noise.
Very clear explanation , thanks
You lost me when you said SC Enable made your voice smoother. Its Side-Chain enable... Meaning the gate acting on a sound would be triggered by a different source. Why make tutorials when you don't know what you're talking about?
NOTE. the SC enable is for enabling the inserted sidechain.
Thanks, I normally just use a preamp to a tube pre into the laptop and compress on the software programs. So is it better to hook the mic in directly then run it to the preamp? Or to hook the muc into the preamp and then the compressor to the laptop?
thank you sir for sharing your talent its a big help to me.
I really enjoyed this video. I recently purchased a different model (the dbx 266xs), and purchased it to reduce the loud commercials from the cable company and loud music when watching a Netflix movie. I will review this video tomorrow and hope it directly corresponds to my particular machine. Thanks.
Perfect explainer. Well done.
Using condenser microphone is very complicated. This man using that mic for this presentation to show us easily to hear the effects of the compressor when turning the knobs.
My mixer is old does not have inserts nor auxiliary, I’m thinking of connecting a mic into dbx compressor then chain output to an eq then finally goes into a mixer . What is your advice I don’t have a compressor yeti
"IF I YELL REALLY LOUD YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S AT THE SAME VOLUME"! This would be because you're yelling at the same volume, since the gain reduction meter doesn't even engage. Oh dear.
I've heard this low cost compressor used to great effect on recordings. Never used it myself but would definitely consider buying and using it without any concerns. Great video too I learned how the sidechain works on hardware compressors. Thanks for the upload. Wish you would do a full feature review of the Focusrite Platinum Compounder...
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i'm just wondering if all that noise is coming from this unit or somewhere else in your chain.
Awesome! Thank you for the tutorial:)
The last thing that you talked about where it can go to a splitter... what do the two ends of the "Y" each plug in to? Thanks:)
so can i record my voice to make music or is this for podcast only
For a live sound of a band should I input the mixer on the limiter and then on the crossover? This way I will only have the compression and limiting options for the final sound of the mixer, is that correct?
Would you plug a mixer in before or after the Compressor/limiter/gate?
What's the difference between this and the 266xl?
I need help. It stays on when I turn off all components. I don’t know how to turn it off?
Hey.. Whats the difference between balanced and unbalanced output? Does it affect the sound in anyway if you choose to use either?
I would expect from a professional review to at least have a preamp before the compressor, not after it.. no wonder why there is so much noise.
Jim Siou lol
After watching your vid. I liked a lot. Keep sharing.
I'm a mobile/home DJ. I've wanted a L/C to controll the unexpected highs and drop offs when I play a set.
.From what you have described. I can insert the DBX L/C into my EQ output and then plug my powered Mackie speakers into the L/c to achieve a smooth level sounding output.
Does this sound like a correct application to perform?
This would also work with recording onto CD- R and Tape machines.
Your response would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Leon Addison.
Would this work good for a 8 Track Tascam to keep my voice even with the beat ? And I want to master my voice without a beat would this help ?
A lesson in volume control indeed.
Can this unit be connected to the Pioneer djm-800 Mixer to control a power sub (Behringer B1800 D and two self powered tops spakers (ELX EV15P? Please response, thanks...
this is the best demo i've watch,so i can apply this to my unit,sir can u post a recommended settings for compressor expander & gate?cause i have a small set up of P.A system it will help me alot to make my sound real good to hear,and thanks for the info this really helpfull,,
Noone can offer you specific values as it relates to *your* setup and workflow
The audio on this video has a lot of hiss and Essing and some distortion, perhaps you needed a good DBX to take out the hiss.
What if I want to hook 2 different sound processors to a mic channel ( compressor& EQ)?
That's the easiest part, plugging in some XLR and TRS cables located in the rear of the unit.
It's understanding compression theory and configuring the compressor for use in the real world that's the hardest part.
So...you put a noise gate on your mic, but don't use one on the loud ass hiss throughout the video? LOL -100 points from hufflepuff, skrublord.
To be fair that would actually make it worse.. Nothing is going to help that shit preamp trying to juice a 57 for vocals.
He could cut a shitload off the eq.
I'm pretty sure this is a separate track than the vocal track. this is most likely post-production.
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Thanks! This is helpful
Not too sure, but did he switch up balanced and unbalanced outputs at around 7mins? I thought the XLR connection was the balanced one.. just askin'
XLR and TRS are both balanced connections, plugging an unbalanced cable into a compressor is a big no no.
How about playing a continuous loop or a melody to use the compressor in its entire ready when recording this video
i just bought one of these 2nd hand for £90. I used to have a Focusrite Compounder which cost £325, and the DBX new would be cheaper than this anyway - personally it pisses all over the Compounder for the money, instantly more satifying results, great machine.
I thought a compressor ratio such as 4:1 meant that for every 4 db over the threshold you go, you only get 1 db back?
he's wrong in fact
I'm having trouble controlling THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE!!! ~ Austin Powers
In the video description you say: "Understanding compressors is as integral to recording and mixing audio as is understanding what a Decibel is." I say: "Understanding compressors is as integral to demonstrating and reviewing compressors as is understanding what a crappy compressor review is."
What's the difference between this compressor and the compressor built inside the software like in Garage Band Pro tools and Ableton cause the compressor in Audacity wasn't good enough for me, so i thought about getting a actual compressor to keep my voice leveled with the beat and i wounder would that do the trick may some 1 give me any help or tips ?
this is only for live sound, not for studio
@@darkzoneattractions1060 Why not for studio?
Holy cow! There's so much mic hiss!
learned a lot. very cool
Can you not plug headphones into this thing?
Wow, this guy does not know how to use this compressor. SC enable is for external side chaining. Also he was waiting for the threshold light to turn yellow indicating the signal was going above the threshold but you notice it didn't. There was not enough gain going into the compressor. He ignored this and moved right along.
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can i use that in mobile djing?
I hear very much noise at the background or is it the compressor
why u set threshold -40db, explnt plsss
do it compresses my raps the same time I'm rapping if i plug my mic in this ?
even better, it completely mutes your raps when you plug your mic in!
what that mean you you say it mutes my raps when i plug the mic in ? Do that mean i can't hear myself with the headphones when i rap ? So i guess it could compress my voice at the same time i rap is that a yes or a no ?
@tubenshaft Yes I 've heard my raps. And besides going to work from my 9-5 I . rather be recording cause rap is where it's at. Plus I come what a positive message to uplift people telling them ways on how to be real. And I also do my homework this is why I'm here checking out these videos.
this is the bomb. thanks
What happened to you guys? You haven't put out a video in two years.
thanks
i want to see how to connect it ????
thank you!
not 166 xs?
Why are many noise?
Is 'gating' just controlling the realese then ?
No. The gate silences the input when the volume is lower than what you set. So you put it between the noise room and your voice or instrument volume. When your voice or instrument is not playing it will cut the noise of the room. When the volume gets higher the audio wil pass trough.
,😯😮
Scratch what the video describes, the person didn't really understand the unit, or even proper gain staging. The gate "closes" (mutes anything below the set threshold), and the "Release" function is to set how long it takes for the gate to close again.
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Hi compressor always confuse me
I hope to never hear this guy when he's peaking ...
Damn why am I hearing so much noise?
Stop you connected mic straight in compressor? My aplause! Guys before you doing something stupid like this read about line input, mic input and instrument input and what difference they have and why you will not want to connect microphone directly into compressor! By the way i would like to see how you will hook up condenser mic (+48 V) about DBX 286XL i know its have onboard pre amplifier and that is ok to connect straight into it!
terrible audio on this...
and lots of mistakes.
great..... lol
The noise floor in this video is literally the reason I’m not buying this compressor.
4:08 : 😂😂
Дрън-дрън-дрън. Пусни малко музика, не се обяснявай, като ученичка! :)
Apparently the guy in the video hasn't a clue. When he had it set limiting, and he was yelling into the 57, clipping the audio, he wasn't even getting any gain reduction on the meters, What an awful demo.
What he was saying was correct in theory, but the compressor was not doing what he thought it was doing.
The sad part is you don't know how to use a microphone without popping it.
How does this video have 450k views with it being such trash?
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The DBX isn't the only *"TOOL"* in this video.
Wtf ?
this is all wrong.
And your audio sounds really bad
Never seen a review such bad as this one and with no music too.
Pretty sure your gain structure is in fact horrible, never seen my DBX react that way, either something wrong with yours or your levels are extremely far off…
Yeah, it seemed like somethin' fricken' weird was going on in this video. I'm new to compression and limiting, but something didn't seem right, here...
I need your advice since you already own a DBX. I already have a 286s that I use for vocals. In a singer-songwriter set-up where I also want to play a mic'd up acoustic guitar simultaneously as I'm singing but also want to have the acoustic guitar mic to have a seperate compression with its own tweaked levels, do I get another 286s for this purpose or a dbx 166xl? Which would you get for just the mic'd up guitar? It seems that the 286s works fine but would the 166xl work better for this purpose? Pretend that I'm recording into a 4-track cassette TEAC 144 (from 1979) recorder. So no DAW no effects, dry everything. Just raw but even-sounding. Which would you choose? I heard the de-esser also works to tame the brightness of brighter acoustic guitars.
get yourself a decent camera or remake that movie with the right focus on the panel, soooo bad to watch ! did't find the right information about that gear, sorry
11 year old video dumbass
Stay away from this crap. I have owned and used this "circuit design", for many years. Not good for any type of analogue or digital source. Try a real compressor and see.