Kitchen remodeling mistakes | Consumer Reports
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Another mistake people often make is not putting drawers (instead of cupboards) wherever they will fit. Squatting down to rummage through a cupboard is not my idea of fun!
the island has to be in relationship to the size of the kitchen, not a useless measurement. A size ratio, like how much room between other cupboards, minimum and maximum, door opening of appliances etc.
Yes but you don't want it to block the traffic flow by being too big. It is better to have two shorter islands and have better traffic flow than one long one that cuts the kitchen in half.
I wish I would have known more before getting started about how to waterproof the floor below the sink and the wall behind it. In addition, I had no knowledge regarding moisture condensation in the space behind the sink wall or how do deal with it.
The design lesson that worked for me was to leave the space above the sink countertop with no cabinets. Instead I used deep, tall cabinets on a separate wall for storage. This left me with lots of surface work area and a compact easy to reach storing space.
My kitchen is very plain (fancy doors are expensive and also tend to gather dust) but the only mistake I made when I designed it was in the choice of door handles. I like the nice long length of the handles I have but I don't like their sharp edges (I bash my hands on them when cleaning if I'm not extra careful) and would now choose D-shape handles.
Having your materials on hand is excellent advice
We remodeled our kitchen ourselves (with the help of a couple friends for the heavy lifting). I did all the planning and ordering of the cupboards. It was almost 100% perfect. The only change we had to make was to reverse the opening direction of 1 door that hit the range hood. It did take longer than expected to get the cupboards which was an inconvenience. It worked out so well, that I also planned out my home office/dressing room with built in cupboards and we remodeled that room a few years later. My only regret is that my husband didn't listen to me on the amount and location of electrical plugs I needed. I ended up having to use several power strips for all of the computer equipment, TV, hair dryer, curling iron, etc.
You should never plug a hair dryer into a power strip/extension cord
love the hand gestures, Bob!
Tip #1 - put off the kitchen remodel until you can actually afford it. Taking out a loan is not "you can afford it". You can afford it means you can write a check for it when it's done without taking money from someone else.
Tip #2 - if someone tells you that it's reasonable to throw away a kitchen every 20 years, tell them that you'd like them to install something good enough that you won't have to throw it away in 20 years. I've heard far too many people suggest that a $60K kitchen remodel (or money equivalent in the future) every 20 years is reasonable in a $275K house. It's sheer stupidity. Who are you impressing? Certainly not your heirs.
David W
I say old boy , if you are planning on passing the estate down to your heirs make you take into account that beastly estate tax .
Put off the kitchen remodel FOREVER unless there's a lot of damage. Too many people tearing out perfectly good, solid wood cabinets to put in junk that won't last 10 years.
Agree about not over doing it ,a small loan should be ok for a kitchen . Just as bad is not doing enough you will be redoing it in quick time find balance .
You are so right, I hate doing it but the house we just purchased had a bad layout in the kitchen. Outdoor 1960s home so we need to upgrade but how much would just cabinets and counter top cost ?
This is a great introductory video for anyone thinking about remodeling their kitchen! We agree about the dimensions of the kitchen island. The homeowner should really think about how they want to use the kitchen before making any major decisions!
I am proud to say that I put together a really great Kitchen Remodel video. Covering some other topics that some people normally do not think about.
These tips still hold true in 2017! Good advice on kitchen islands, too.
So since I have a small home and don't have space for all you said I shouldn't bother?
DIY tip: Pre-built pantries often need disassembled or altered to be installed... at least that's what I found. Baseboard can hide the 2x4 base that was needed after shortening a pantry.
One more advice: never trust ratings and reliability of a contractor on the internet.Trust me, I'm giving you good advice.
TheOpelkoenjas I'll trust you instead lol
You are so right. Stay away from sites like Home Advisors and Angie's List. They will send jackleggs with no license or certification to you house. They don't do real background checks
Cutting that pepper up with the seeds still intact. Gordon Ramsey is crying somewhere.
we had some people come in ( yes licensed), and are still in court over how they ruined our kitchen.
Its painful financially but at this point its the principle and looks like we will win and at least get our attorney fees back...hopefully in 2015
+debbiewasshername Would love to know how it worked out for you guys, court wise.
And never install a microwave over the oven. Makes for tight quarters when canning or attempting to handle stock pots.
Some other good advice when hiring a licensed contractor; ask for a time frame and have them stick to it! Most contractors work multiple projects, and usually end up costing you valuable time.
David You are so right, I hate doing it but the house we just purchased had a bad layout in the kitchen. Outdoor 1960s home so we need to upgrade but how much would just cabinets and counter top cost ?
really useful video on how to start your kitchen remodeling project, and how to find kitchen remodeling contractor.
why are they cutting the pepper like that?!
Good question. He or she doesn't know how to use a knife. The blade should be pushed or pulled horizontally as it's cutting, not just pressed down vertically. It's a knife, not a hatchet.
Either sharpen your knife, or start the cut on the inside of the pepper.
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This is a must-watch for homeowners who plan to remodel their kitchens.
+Valley Home Improvement, Inc. I'll rarely take on a contractor for the remodeling/renovating of my home. I'm pretty good with hand AND brains, but yet not a pro. Therefor only for the main electricity and some of the plumbing, which is for now still above my capacity of knowledge, specially because everything needs to be to be legally approved (and okay for insurances) and such, is going to be done by a well known and well labeled company.
TheOpelkoenjas Even so I would keep my eye( s) on the work being done,, don't take anything for granted even the best can slip up.I guess I am not the trusting kind:)
2:15, that's some cringe-worthy knife handling.
That's exactly what I was going to comment!
Exactly! Amateur hour on the food prep channel.
I thought that too ;-)
I laughed when I saw that downward chopping, although it was a santoku
"Makes cooking easier"
*Shows the worst chopping anyone has ever seen
Yes! I give this my professional and personal seal of approval.
Nothing I haven't thought of. This is just common sense. Why would you even remodel a kitchen without the dimensions in mind?
#oltedders Did anyone else notice when they were interviewing people the people were reading from a script. You can see their eyes tracking back and fourth. That's something most people do not do when they are giving their honest opinion, looks kind of set up to me. @Golden Acre Renovations
Because it involves the dreaded act of thinking.
I worked at a Best Buy home delivery . Aside from scratches and dents, the main reason people reject appliances is because they ordered the wrong size. People get carried away with features and appearance and don’t consider whether they’ll fit in their space. This is especially common when ordering online and there’s no salesperson to ask them how much space they have.
Great informational video! There's some great advise here, when it comes to remodeling a kitchen. For those who don't know where to find a good contractor, visit Home Advisor. We always refer to them for finding a quality, local contractor/handyman.
Biggest mistake is buying any of the cupboard handles shown or those hideous gold taps.
They are a crime against humanity!
actually best advice is don't cheap out. if you're doing it, just do it right and the best to the highest standards. better spend more than regretting it just later you didn't put just a little more to make it so much nicer.
Any thoughts on reusing cabinets that are in good shape?
Yes. Mine are all solid wood. So I plan to reconfigure and paint. Now 1975 brown. Archtop and all
Heres my design, coming from a 50 year chef career in pro kitchens.
No counters.
No cabinets.
Keep both sides of stove clear , allow at least 12 inches clearance each side for cleaning.
no stone tops, no plastic laminate tops.
stainless or commercial grade maple 2 1/2 inch thick.
No silly consumer grade dishwasher, they're a complete joke, I don't care how much you paid.
No digital readout on the stove, digital circuit boards in a hot stove will always fail.
Keep refrigerator well away from the stove.
finishing details are the key!
My garbage bins are located under the counter where I do my prep work. Huge mistake. I'd put them under sink that is next to prep area.
do you have to look for only kitchen remodeling contractor, or a general contractor will do the job, as well..?
Everything he says are correct! Even I can testify that.
LMAO, they go to a hardware store to ask the pros, what pros at a hardware store they ask; stock boy, key maker, sales person or cashier. Hey CR most contractors don't shop at hardware stores.
Hahaha spot on...
Homepros NYC 😂
Stock boy, key maker - haha
I was thinking the same thing...you won't get much 'pro' advice at the big box stores either...lumber yard and design centers have more info about code, clearances, and materials. Take the time to plan well and do not change that plan, and have all materials on site
How about more of things like this that are use in the house like
Over head vent stove
ERV
Central vacs an so on
1. ALWAYS have your range hood exhaust to the OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE! Otherwise you're just blowing smoke around the inside of it, accomplishing NOTHING.
2. Using any type of draw or cabinet door handles that stick out at the ends, will eventually snag your clothing and rip it, and you'll feel like a moron, or worse if it's someone else's clothes. Been there.
Yep, codes have been rolled back to allow in- situ venting of hoods- saves the builder money of course.
We're glad we didn't put anything, no sink, no burners, in the island. We also listened to Chris Kimball, he has a lot of valuable advise and experience.
The are measurements for common and measurements for what is code on the internet. There is planner designs and placement on the internet. It’s not that hard to plan it out before any money is spent.
Nice ideas, thanks for sharing. I will be looking forward to your next video until then please take care and God bless!
I wish there is a window by the stove. I don't understand why they put the sink by the window. The window makes sense for stinky food and smoke.
Good lighting in a work space is a SAFETY issue not just convenience or esthetics. So you can See how you are mishandling the knives.
No, the purpose of the lighting is so you can easily find the finger tip instead of loosing it in the salad.
awesome hand gestures!
We just had our's done two years ago. By the time it was started all of our parts were in the carriage house and waiting for installation, except the huge stove, which was delivered on the final day. We hired a design specialist to make the very best of our space. My wife and I picked everything, cabinets, countertop, lighting, backsplash, flooring and paint on our own to complement our 1914 craftsman home. Floor tile was purchased nearly 12 years ago and cannot be found today. Planning? We had been planning this kitchen for 18 years.
Something CR neglected to mention, "stay away from trendy styles" because after 10 years you'll hate your kitchen and want to re do it all again. ( just like the green or avocado appliances, with the paint grade cabinets and blue countertops. )
Got an up to date video?
They are all great ideas. Such great tips!
Granite counter tops. Get a nice, clean white stone composite instead. Looks better, less porous, less apt to damage or stain, cheaper, and nice clean white counter top won't be out of style in 15 years.
So who decided their island was too long after they got it built? I doubt that ever really happened. For most people, the bigger the better and 10 feet is more like a minimum than a maximum.
Did you see that thing? You would have to walk a mile to get around to the sink from the other side!
Nick Overby Actually, you have to walk exactly five feet to get from the center of a ten foot island to get to either end. If your work triangle is entirely behind the island, and you serve meals to guests on stools sitting at the island you have to walk behind it once per meal. Seems like a small price to pay to have a generous workarea that can double as a serving area so you don't have to have a separate kitchen table. It's true that your island needs to be proportional to the space, but if your kitchen is at one end of a 20x30 foot great room you're going to want a generous island. A ten foot island will comfortably seat 4 people on stools in front of it, 5 people if you crowd them together a bit. People like fancier kitchens these days. If you've got plenty of space you can actually plan a work triangle at one end of a long island and leave the other end for somebody else to work mixing drinks at a wet bar or whatever.
+dlwatib I know, this is a response on your comment after two years, but you would be surprised how many people have "an idea" on how they want something to look, but while the work is in progress find out that their ideas were a big screw up and want things changed. And sadly enough, many contractors know this beforehand the moment they see/hear the plans and won't say a word about it. Now a days many only think about their bank account, and how fast they can fill it up to be able to buy themselves that one million dollar home they always dreamed of. A good contractor should tell people beforehand that their ideas and "dreams" (i.e. their plans) might actually not really work out very well - for different reasons - and should propose something that matches their ideas/dreams, but more cost effective and closer to reality.
Ten foot long island? and you think that's the minimum. You'd better have 25 x 20 feet of kitchen to accommodate a monster like that. The size of a living room. Ridiculous!
I have a 16 foot long island but my house is a bit over 8k square feet.
Do it yourself. Everything you need is at Home Depot and in books and on RUclips. You will save thousands, learn a ton, and feel a real sense of accomplishment.
Mistake - quality of light - mismatched color temperatures and light sources with poor color rendering index (CRI.) Read up on these specifications, this is especially important with LED and fluorescent light sources.
How can she say that; she wished she woulda known in greater detail the dimensions so she wouldn't bump the appliances into things...layout is one of the first steps in a remodel. I never did a remodel in my life and I know that. Who did her kitchen?? They should be blacklisted. Tisk tisk
+ItsPARISbabii They followed HER plan, and trust me when I say they - the contractor(s) knew beforehand the dimensions weren't going to work out at all. But they "forgot" to mention that to her - and "forgot" to offer her better plans - because now a days it's all about money and how much you can suck someone's bank account empty.
I think she may have meant door handles in new appliances. when my parents-in-law replaced their kitchen appliances, the new dish washer had a stick-out door handle, unlike the old one that was hidden inside the door, and as a result, the drawer in the cabinet perpendicular to the dishwasher bumped into the door handle.
@@mrgallbladder thats a very common mistake. an experienced contractor can see that from a mile away. you need spacers.
Actually,all those super kitchens usualy in super houses ..thanks,but No ,thanks... been there ...big kitchen is more for show ,because literally you spend time near few cabinets and appliances ,microwave so high above ,it is out of reach for my 10 yrs old grandkids and short myself...Thanks God we down sized ,because big house = big and high maintenance. marble literally the worst material for kitchen and tubs ,as its need to be seal,easely stained...Lol, you know when you buy new or just finished new house ...1st things you find is stack of services - from maids to gardener or lawn specialist ,to maintance services.Project your kitchen for your need and life style and physical abilities ... perfect popular French door fridge - the upper shelve not really useful for 5'2'' me,and for that price sub zero or other drawers type ,actually cheaper. I would never say yes to white marble floor again ,they have to pay me to have it,or instant hot water.. electric teakettle much cheaper,never for trash cabinet , YES for walk in Pantry and yes for butler sideboards.Huge no, for chimney type air vent -unless you have a maid ,who would keep that sucker clean. Good kitchen -is a smart and affordable kitchen. Sorry for rant .
This is such good advice! This is stuff that I haven't though of. Luckily, I'm in the planning stage.
I wish that I could like this 7589429275 times! Thank you for taking the time to write this. :]
2:52 "Survey Reserch" 😂
Great Video! Thanks!
It is important to have two refrigerators in the kitchen. One for the beer, and all the fish I will or did catch, and one for "her" stuff.
Video done. Bob hangs up his fake tv arms, puts on his coat with his real arms and goes home.
Very valid points
I tried to put an island in my kitchen but it was too big. And the water surrounding the island flooded everything. So I brought it back to the lake.
Every time someone changes their mind, it's apparently a $1500 flat fee.
Want to go from roper fridge to thermadoor? $1500.
Change the microwave from black to stainless? $1500.
Move the garbage disposal to the other side of the sink $1500
Bump the wall out on the house another ten feet? $1500.
very nice.
Garbage cans in cabinets is a waste of space and a guaranteed mess. Keep a separate container outside the cabinets, empty it regularly and replace it when it is unmanageable.
I use a wicker hamper outside the kitchen, I don't like the look of large plastic bins in my house. My kitchens are always too small. I keep a small compost box on the counter and empty it outside immediately and wash it when I do dishes.
Our trashcan is built into the cabinet it’s awesome
We don't make a mess ever. Why would it be messy? I think it is a great idea.
Yep when I used to clean houses the trash can cabinet was always messy and very hard to clean. A better idea would be to have an open space between the cabinets with a door. Like a faux cabinet so that the trash can actually sits on the floor.
One thing I don’t like is it doesn’t have lids to contain the odors
The best way to do is how Saddlerock Investments LLC Rory Shannon Does it! LOL
They use a Jose Mesa, right out of Mexico with no skills or education of any kind as he confirmed so, but cheap! " I learn on the job!" As he stated. In reference to my house that I bought from this investor, the kitchen granite counter is placed so high that it cuts through the kitchen window, so no open and close privileges, not only but they had to remove the window screen, since it no longer fits the window! What the irony of it is that the kitchen was absolutely perfect prior to Jose Mesa getting to it!
Welp... there goes that. My fiancé’s family are our landlords & they put our stove/oven in the middle of our kitchen with no ventilation & or hood.... the so called kitchen island is immediately next to our couch. They swear that range hoods do not work & are eye sores.
Yes, some of these are common mistakes..
Good video and very informative on kitchen remodeling.
I found the best way to get the cost of any major renovation is to just double whatever the estimate is. I have had a lot of work done on houses over the years and there's always things that they run into that they don't expect. Also plans and designs get modifications and I tend to add extras as it progresses.
0:21 that’s where I fucked up😂
Careful planning, using a #LicensedContractor, counting the time and costs before starting all can make a world of difference in your #KitchenRemodeling efforts.
Forgot to mention. Down let Beatle Juice ( Beet ) do your kitchen renovation.
No more than 10ft for an island!! Why? Who decided that arbitrary number?
CR got it all wrong! Instead of a hardware store they should have interviewed design professionals. Instead of saying what dimensions an island should be they should have asked a design professional. Instead of giving space planning do's and don'ts, they should have talked to design professionals. Instead of touting hoods they should have talked to design professionals. In short, CR should stick to appliance, car, etc. reviews and leave design advice to the professionals.
Agreed 100% and even at that their reporting on consumer goods is targeted to the general public and JQP's horribly trendy tastes.
Here's a tip. If someone thinks that they need a combination of the two following things:
* a design professional
* a loan to pay for the renovation
They should hang up their phone, not call a "design professional" and save their money until they can pay for a kitchen.
Walt Schmidt Lol, I was gonna say the same thing!
thank you!!
If you think appliance garages are a must have, you've been talking to a hardware store employee.
very good advice...**Chane
Do not pay before you inspect EVERYTHING because you will NEVER get them back to repair
Totally! You definitely need a good inspector, especially for a space like the kitchen. Are you renovating your house?
Pot fillers can Leak; you should NEVER have a Water Source, without a Drain
Change of mind is a right.. contractors are the problem.. get a craftsman that builds what you want ..
Yes and no,,, the craftsman is for custom design. The contractor is for locating, putting to work and assuring completion of each trade involved. A "good" contractor should be able to provide you a list of "craftsmen" "Proficient" in their trade - that will be completing your project. You certainly do not want your plumber installing your electric. Don't get me wrong, there are some people out there who can do everything very very well (Hats off to those who can). The one thing you will notice is, even if they can pull it all off alone or with a helper, they are still going to finish slower than a person equipped and supplied with all the materials and knowledge of the particular trade in question - including licensing (electrician and plumber for example). The contractor's job is to establish an army of "reliable" and "talented" people to provide an excellent outcome in a timely manner.
Remember,, there is no sure-fire way of going about picking a good contractor. Even recommendation can leave you quite disappointed.
The trick in assuring a good product for yourself is establish an communication and keep it.
1. Don't rush into having work done. Chances are you won't give yourself enough time to decide on something you can afford or you won't get the most for your investment
2. Know your budget. Know how much you can spend without putting yourself deeper in debt and ending up getting less out of it after the finance institutions completely rip you off. Keep in mind, unless you invest in a renowned well-know "artist" to design and complete your project it will loose value the second you use it. In other words it will be worth less than you paid of it (for several reasons).
3. Avoid hiring a contractor/craftsman just because they pull up in a shiny brand new truck or because they have a fancy ad on TV. Chances are you will be paying for all that glitter. You are looking for a practical individual that has a focus on what you want and what you can afford. The first sign of a person that offers a low-ball estimate and then hits you later is found in the presentation. Short answers, cutting you off in conversation, poor memory as well as quick changes of topic are pretty strong signs that you will end up paying a lot more that you agreed.
I can go on and on.
Watch out for a lot of fine print. When you see this, check things like the BBB or building associations in your area. Fine print quite simply states, If we make a mistake, we will do everything in our power to get out of fixing it. If there is something written,,, READ IT, understand it and DO NOT SIGN unless you are comfortable.
If you are tired and just want to get it done. Don't do it. Put it down for a while and come back when you really have more patience.
Hiring someone good takes two things,,, time and money and both are yours until you've given them up.
One more thing to remember. Rome was not built in a day, but boy was it built beautifully and lasted a very long time. It takes time to acquire materials - especially in a kitchen (a lot of time 6 to 10 weeks for the cabinets alone). Make sure you have a good idea of what will be done when and if it is realistic. Allow for some shortfalls - at least 3 occur very commonly in the trades. You certainly do not want anyone rushing, but you should very rarely see a workday go by without some progress.
If you need anything or would like some more answers,, seek me out.
I hope everyone has a rewarding experience or at least can find a comfort in its process and long-lasting completion.
A change of mind is a right... that costs $1500.
Bob Hope .. Best kitchens and baths i have built were with tradesman hired by the day.. so the many changes were done easily..
Jax Kat They aren't saying you can't change your mind. They are saying that when you change your mind after the reno has started it can get VERY costly. That's all.
That exactly right Sheila
Gross - a drawer for garbage is disgusting. Those drawers end up stinking to high heaven. You can tuck the can under the counter, maybe under the sink but I would never waste an entire cabinet on GARBAGE. Recycle, compost and don't buy garbage generating stuff and you won't need that stinky "improvement"
Do NOT get a La Cornu range! It's in this footage and those ranges are expensive and absolute crap. Great eye candy. They don't work reliably!
Don't buy a cabinet with woodgrain tape on the side.
bathroom vanity, and I have a good idea to have a 6.k kitchen counter tops I have a good idea to have a j i7 ygj5 i new kitchen deal
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bathroom vanity ckitchen nations mi. I have a lot more to do it for
Mistake #1: Deciding to "remodel" the kitchen.
Everyone wants 3 things,a good job,done fast and cheap.you can only get 2 out of 3
No, you should get an interior designer first, THEN a contractor. They will make sure to tell you about the little details before you even start demo.
I totally agree to this comment. My interior designer save me $$$$$ of money. It been 11 yrs since my kitchen remodel and there is NOTHING I would change. Still LOVE it. My 81 yr old dad had a stroke and had to move in with us during the remodel. ugh Yes it was tough but do able. He is 92 and still going strong here. I built my dream kitchen. Both kids just out of the house. We hardly ever eat out and I find it a pleasure to cook in my kitchen. I'm short and my designer took that into account too.
Did anyone else notice when they were interviewing people the people were reading from a script. You can see their eyes tracking back and fourth. That's something most people do not do when they are giving their honest opinion, looks kind of set up to me.
Hardware store for a kitchen remodel? Wrong place to start. Lol!
Lesson I learned, don't hire friends, friend of a friend or make friends with the contractor or the workmen!
Did they really spell research wrong? Mark Kotkin Director of Reserch
Good grief. Hire a designer, they can handle everyone. Do not hire a contractor, have the designer hire subcontractors. Know your prices!!! You may be able to buy your items direct and skip all the middle men, including the contractor and installer, who all take their cut.
A Designer adds $$$$$$
@@SuperEddietv but it eliminates mistakes. and listen to the designer when they tell you of a possible problem or conflict. they've been doing it a long time and have gotten feedback. they know.....
Really........ ISMH people don't think or Plan or ASK!
If I had hired high end contractors and they didn't bother telling me something was wrong with the plan i.e. cabinets bumping, walkthrough spaces not wide enough, missing standard appliance, etc., I would charge the job back to them per detail they didn't bother to highlight my design error while laughing behind my back or thinking I would pay them the rest of the money when I could have done the job myself but PAID for "professional" advice that never happened.
Caveat: Unless I chose to completely rework the space or a major part of it after the work was complete Or... I argued with their tips to do it differently.
As for your own issues with design, if you're too ignorant to measure twice and cut once, then you deserve the hands on crap kitchen you get.
Go in a hardware store to get advice???? My sides are hurting from all the laughter!!
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Kitchen renos are the biggest ripoff in the construction business. Spending 30k on new cabinets/countertop and sink is crazy. Its the highest profit margin reno for contractors. They are GOUGING you. Hell a new kitchen should not cost as much as a new car!
Very helpful! #GoldenAcreRenovations
Mmm,.?
Hand jesters....getting scary
I have no kitchen cabinets, only a few drawers and a large shelf (plus pantry). People own too much crap.
just go to IKEA
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Never trust Consumer Reports.
Only women were interviewed about kitchen choices and only men were the experts. The gender imbalance is striking. CR, please make future videos more balanced.
Sarah Janson
Don't you have a sandwich to make or dishes to clean ?
Sarah, do you call that over-easy? Do it again!