I don't know why, but for some reason the Miss Fortune popping ulti and getting half of a giggle out before she got sent back to spawn at 28:48 just cracks me up. It's like those "Perfectly Cut Scream" videos.
Behold, an online fantasy game where you can play hundreds of unique characters. "Give me the brown haired white guy with a sword." Garen main for life.
Last item should have been black cleaver, it reduces a lot of armor stacking with the E 6 hits effect, making your lethality even stronger, also some hp AND cd reduction is great !
navori is still befter, ive done dmg testing and e dmg is very similar between the 2. navori has the advantage though bc it increases your ult max hp threshold to nearly 50% when you have collector.
@itsyourguyskye I didn't think of the effect on the ult threshold, but when you're dealing 500 dmg per tic, with 11 tics they should already be dead or well within ult threshold. Mind really blown on the ult buff tho 🤯
It isn't a 45 % increase. Most champs do 175% dmg on a crit. IE increases this to 220%. Assuming 100% crit chance, the percentual damage increase due to IE is 220%/175%*100% = 126 %, so IE basically increases the damage by ~26%, not 45%, even if you have 100% crit chance.
The actual difference isn’t much at all since 45% is added ontop of the actual crit damage, not the entire attack, plus Navori not only gives ability haste, it also boosts the damage of ur other abilities, the other passive is pretty useless when ur fed but would be useful in long fights. When they get rid of mythics though IE will definitely be on the menu.
Teemo waiting in Dragon pit, invis, that entire time was hilarious. Edit: "it's 45min in, what have you been doing" toward Jhin... Ziggs followed him, even using TP, just to take his farm the entire game, lmao.
Ziggs did that like once tbh you don’t have an excuse after 45 minutes. Every farm is up and lanes are crawling with minions. But he smurfs in iron so idk what he expects
@@AidanStewart9 Ziggs set him back enough that he just kept getting further behind. I didn't mention it in OP, but Zwag also hogged the creep kills even after full items+thousands extra, while his teammates were going for them. Multiple full items-worth. With how far behind Jhin was already, Jhin has a few good reasons, lol.
"grass" isn't too far off, although "r" isn't pronounced like that in french (but you can't expect all native English speakers to be able to pronounce it correctly). But "coup" is pronounced "koo" and not "cuh" or "cup" much less "cut" 😂
I tried this build on Aram. Amumu ult + Garen E shredding 5 people to pieces in a matter of seconds. The easiest penta ever. Thanks Zwag for showing us these off meta builds. They are really fun to play
I'm so glad I got to see the masterful play at 17:47, Ekko dying of bleed and minion damage while his ult is not only up, but is on top of an enemy that his killing his teammates. Truly just beautiful.
7:25 "Fine... Fine, fine-fine-fine-fine-fine, I'll outplay you..." With you Zwag, League cannot be a menace. Asking for a tank Cassiopeia (on the Rift or the Abyss). Days asked: 205, days skipped: 7, winrate: 96.70% Core items: Archangel's, Heartsteel OR Iceborn Gauntlet, Demonic Situational items (pick some): Rylai's, Abbysal Mask, Spirit Visage OR Force of Nature, Gargoyle Stoneplate, Frozen Heart, Warmog's Primary runes: Grasp, Demolish, Conditioning, Overgrowth OR standard Conqueror. Secondary runes: Manaflow, Gathering Storm OR Presence of mind, Last stand. Extra facts: You want Archangel's first, because Cass is so mana hungry. Gauntlet might work, because with E you'll proc it often. Heartsteel will easily proc because you're ranged and fast. For the same reason Rylai's will be excellent for kiting, just like bruiser Ashe. Spirit Visage synergizes with your E healing and shielding granted by Seraph's and Gargoyle. Extra points for building all three! "Tank Cassiopeia is secretly OP and I'm gonna show you why!" My thanks for helping with this suggestion go to: GiovanniBoss, Lena Miaou, D.Lockholm, FashionSuckMan, Thaddeus Hill, Gustavo Martirena. I like any feedback on this comment!
Just a lil nitpick: if you just walk up towards someone and use your spin before q, you can use q mid spin to gain the movementspeed if they try to run away (e only ends if you end e by pressing it again) and the spin reduces their armor so q does more dmg.
I did the maths bro At max level of the champ (18). if you have 633 ad (example) but you have the minimum atk speed 1.013, you will end up doing only 9 spins with the damage of 284 In the oposite scenerio. if you have the minimunm ad 381 but you have the max atk speed 2.38 (without boots and LethalTemp), you will end up doing 18 spins with the damage of 180 So now multiply 284x9=2556 180x18=3240 (Ignoring the crit chance and just raw damage) So we can say that the more spins you can do, the most damage you will end up doing but you can balance between atk speed and ad (and with crit even more). Thnx for your attention. :3
the thing with Garen's spin is it's a set duration. so if you have 6 spins it's 2 hits per second lets say 100 damage each. 200dps. move to 12 spins same damage value, 4 hits per second at 100 for 400 dps. If you go 6 spins double the damage, so still 2 hits but 200 each, so 400 dps so to really scale garen damage you have to hybrid it. Much like you did. Want to push to 10+ and damage. People confuse the scaling mechanic and go all one way or the other and end up with less overall damage.
It's a bell curve, where you want more spins till about 7-8 then shift to damage. Thing to remember is people will be using flash, roots, dashes to get out of the spins, so you want to get as many as possible as fast. spins tend to be easier to get than damage with garen in a meaningful way. Also a lot of attack speed items come with damage. but you want the higher attack speed items first then shift to pure attack ones later if you want max spin to win. I usually rush up to about 6-7 spins then next item usually about 3rd or 4th get a big damage item. then 5th and 6th decide if i need to tank up or if I can just run them over, Nice thing with Garen is he does well no matter the need, just need to read the team read the game and adjust. @@luizp.7251
Coup de grace is actually pronounced like Coo De Gra. It's a French phrase that means "stroke of grace" or "mercy killing" and they almost always silent the last letter or two. Never took French, but worked a lot with them and I realized it.
I just thought that move speed pots would be an interesting addition to the game. So if you have to sell your boots at the end you can still have move speed
There would be no decision making. It would be the only correct choice in the late game. Yeah it sucks to be slow if you want another big item but that's a choice you have to make. Do you want to be fast or more powerful?
That's what Smite did. Added a speed bot that gave the same MS as boots but nothing else and didn't stack with boots. Then eventually they just got rid of them. Now your MS just scales til lvl7 and then you have the same MS as boots/speed potion gave you.
I hope that one day Zwag considers switching his mythic for Eclipse when he's pondering the 6th item with these AD builds. 25ms (5 per item) makes the movespeed issue SO much more tolerable. Like yeah you're not gonna be Quinn but who can turn their nose up at tier 1 boots without having to actually buy them? Paired with Phantom Dancer you barely notice that you don't have boots. Not to mention >50% armour pen, %HP burst and an extra shield. (Duskblade works too but late game Eclipse is better)
the pronunciation of Coup De Grace is basically, Coo Deh Grah. if you wanna get frenchy with it that is. also its been two months, but here's that sub you asked for :) ive learned a lot from you man
temporary attack speed doesn't work, only permanent, so things like hail of blade, lethal tempo, rageblade, or lulu w don't affect garen e, it's like how kai'sa evolve doesn't take temporary attack speed into it's calculation
Personally, I would've got Mortal Reminder instead of LDR, to completely shut down the Briar in one item. But if you were looking to an alternative to BT, Bork exists? Anywho. Keep up the plays Zwag. GG.
When you tab before killing a minion or when chasing the illaoi knowing you will get her is that to show off or do you actually see something useful for the spilt seconds
Sad I didn’t think of Navori Garen before. Prob cuz I don’t do crit Garen shenanigans. But I love crit shenanigans…. I should do Navori Shyvana. Buff dem fireballs
does approach velocity stack with Warwicks blood scent? because a 1 shot monster warwick able to perma roam sounds fun plus the faster you run the longer your alt distance could be really funny
"Briar is so anti-fun, point and click, CC".
- Zwag moments after one-shotting MF with a single Q and beating Illaoi by standing still.
I don't know why, but for some reason the Miss Fortune popping ulti and getting half of a giggle out before she got sent back to spawn at 28:48 just cracks me up. It's like those "Perfectly Cut Scream" videos.
It sounded like half of a surprised yelp and half of a very horny moan to me 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂. It sounds like a scream out of fear.
Behold, an online fantasy game where you can play hundreds of unique characters. "Give me the brown haired white guy with a sword." Garen main for life.
Last item should have been black cleaver, it reduces a lot of armor stacking with the E 6 hits effect, making your lethality even stronger, also some hp AND cd reduction is great !
He doesn't need it, Dominik can reduce a lot of armor.
Garen's e actually scales with crit damage, so infinity edge gives you an instant 45% increase in damage vs navori's 20% max (at 100% crit)
navori is still befter, ive done dmg testing and e dmg is very similar between the 2. navori has the advantage though bc it increases your ult max hp threshold to nearly 50% when you have collector.
@itsyourguyskye I didn't think of the effect on the ult threshold, but when you're dealing 500 dmg per tic, with 11 tics they should already be dead or well within ult threshold. Mind really blown on the ult buff tho 🤯
@@itsyourguyskye it really only is like 400 damage difference max build n level xd
It isn't a 45 % increase. Most champs do 175% dmg on a crit. IE increases this to 220%. Assuming 100% crit chance, the percentual damage increase due to IE is 220%/175%*100% = 126 %, so IE basically increases the damage by ~26%, not 45%, even if you have 100% crit chance.
The actual difference isn’t much at all since 45% is added ontop of the actual crit damage, not the entire attack, plus Navori not only gives ability haste, it also boosts the damage of ur other abilities, the other passive is pretty useless when ur fed but would be useful in long fights. When they get rid of mythics though IE will definitely be on the menu.
Seraphine babysitting and healing actually enabled that garen build ! really nice combo !
Teemo waiting in Dragon pit, invis, that entire time was hilarious.
Edit: "it's 45min in, what have you been doing" toward Jhin... Ziggs followed him, even using TP, just to take his farm the entire game, lmao.
That Ekko was braindead honestly
Ziggs did that like once tbh you don’t have an excuse after 45 minutes. Every farm is up and lanes are crawling with minions. But he smurfs in iron so idk what he expects
@@AidanStewart9 Ziggs set him back enough that he just kept getting further behind.
I didn't mention it in OP, but Zwag also hogged the creep kills even after full items+thousands extra, while his teammates were going for them. Multiple full items-worth.
With how far behind Jhin was already, Jhin has a few good reasons, lol.
Me Garen,
Me Spin.
Me Crit,
Me Win.
I hate the fact that it rhymes lol
Me Garen
Me Spin
Me Baron
Me Win
Garen: Garen
Matt Damon: Matt Damon
Garen: Garen Garen
Matt Damon: Matt Damon Matt Damon Matt Damon
Garen: Garen
@@billylionisnotagoattrue
Wt heck you say, garen is the most difficult champ, maybe more than aphellios or the new champ (hwei)
Zwag's toxic trait is thinking he says Coup de Grace correctly.
No wonder I kept thinking why’s there a rune called “cut the grass” in game, as if it matches the mowing machine Garen lol
Tbh i just checked on RUclips how to prononce it...and it say zwag is right,wich is kind of annoting cause the frenchy in me know how wrong he is😂😂😂
Im pretty sure he actually is saying cut the grass on purpose
"grass" isn't too far off, although "r" isn't pronounced like that in french (but you can't expect all native English speakers to be able to pronounce it correctly). But "coup" is pronounced "koo" and not "cuh" or "cup" much less "cut" 😂
It's 100% satirical and done on purpose lol.
I tried this build on Aram. Amumu ult + Garen E shredding 5 people to pieces in a matter of seconds. The easiest penta ever. Thanks Zwag for showing us these off meta builds. They are really fun to play
Day 100 of asking for full attack speed Gwen with Rageblade and lethal tempo. Please Zwag, the new items make this so good
Fun fact, Garen Q will hit fizz even when he pole’s. As long as you’re attacking him before he goes up. Same with vlad pool.
14:10 best league entertainer there is :D laughed hard
Came to the comments to make sure this got love cause it's so great. Teemo stealing drag as well is hilarious.
Zwag made me cry from pain when he said "operation mow the lawn" this abscess on the side of my jaw when I laughed.
To who ever who reads it. Take care, stay healthy. Love ya all bro
Perish
Love you bro❤
damn why so mad bro ? @@z_t636
i don’t know why but “ ziggs balls are in the ground” just made me laugh so hard.
21:22 "Are there Ziggz' balls on the ground?"
Ouch
I'm so glad I got to see the masterful play at 17:47, Ekko dying of bleed and minion damage while his ult is not only up, but is on top of an enemy that his killing his teammates. Truly just beautiful.
7:25 "Fine... Fine, fine-fine-fine-fine-fine, I'll outplay you..." With you Zwag, League cannot be a menace.
Asking for a tank Cassiopeia (on the Rift or the Abyss). Days asked: 205, days skipped: 7, winrate: 96.70%
Core items: Archangel's, Heartsteel OR Iceborn Gauntlet, Demonic
Situational items (pick some): Rylai's, Abbysal Mask, Spirit Visage OR Force of Nature, Gargoyle Stoneplate, Frozen Heart, Warmog's
Primary runes: Grasp, Demolish, Conditioning, Overgrowth OR standard Conqueror.
Secondary runes: Manaflow, Gathering Storm OR Presence of mind, Last stand.
Extra facts:
You want Archangel's first, because Cass is so mana hungry.
Gauntlet might work, because with E you'll proc it often.
Heartsteel will easily proc because you're ranged and fast. For the same reason Rylai's will be excellent for kiting, just like bruiser Ashe.
Spirit Visage synergizes with your E healing and shielding granted by Seraph's and Gargoyle. Extra points for building all three!
"Tank Cassiopeia is secretly OP and I'm gonna show you why!"
My thanks for helping with this suggestion go to: GiovanniBoss, Lena Miaou, D.Lockholm, FashionSuckMan, Thaddeus Hill, Gustavo Martirena. I like any feedback on this comment!
Just a lil nitpick: if you just walk up towards someone and use your spin before q, you can use q mid spin to gain the movementspeed if they try to run away (e only ends if you end e by pressing it again) and the spin reduces their armor so q does more dmg.
I did the maths bro
At max level of the champ (18).
if you have 633 ad (example) but you have the minimum atk speed 1.013, you will end up doing only 9 spins with the damage of 284
In the oposite scenerio.
if you have the minimunm ad 381 but you have the max atk speed 2.38 (without boots and LethalTemp), you will end up doing 18 spins with the damage of 180
So now multiply
284x9=2556
180x18=3240
(Ignoring the crit chance and just raw damage)
So we can say that the more spins you can do, the most damage you will end up doing but you can balance between atk speed and ad (and with crit even more).
Thnx for your attention. :3
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 3
@@blackpyramiddd ??????
@@blackpyramiddd shush
Kyle's focus man 🫡
@@PEDROSILVA-xe1yr 🫡
MY CANNON!!
the thing with Garen's spin is it's a set duration. so if you have 6 spins it's 2 hits per second lets say 100 damage each. 200dps. move to 12 spins same damage value, 4 hits per second at 100 for 400 dps. If you go 6 spins double the damage, so still 2 hits but 200 each, so 400 dps so to really scale garen damage you have to hybrid it. Much like you did. Want to push to 10+ and damage. People confuse the scaling mechanic and go all one way or the other and end up with less overall damage.
So more spins is good?
It's a bell curve, where you want more spins till about 7-8 then shift to damage. Thing to remember is people will be using flash, roots, dashes to get out of the spins, so you want to get as many as possible as fast. spins tend to be easier to get than damage with garen in a meaningful way. Also a lot of attack speed items come with damage. but you want the higher attack speed items first then shift to pure attack ones later if you want max spin to win. I usually rush up to about 6-7 spins then next item usually about 3rd or 4th get a big damage item. then 5th and 6th decide if i need to tank up or if I can just run them over, Nice thing with Garen is he does well no matter the need, just need to read the team read the game and adjust.
@@luizp.7251
and runes? Conqueror or some rune with movement?@@keeperofstars
Garen: Me fight for those who can not.
Zwag: Me spin Me kill.
Coup de grace is actually pronounced like Coo De Gra. It's a French phrase that means "stroke of grace" or "mercy killing" and they almost always silent the last letter or two. Never took French, but worked a lot with them and I realized it.
I just thought that move speed pots would be an interesting addition to the game. So if you have to sell your boots at the end you can still have move speed
There would be no decision making. It would be the only correct choice in the late game. Yeah it sucks to be slow if you want another big item but that's a choice you have to make. Do you want to be fast or more powerful?
Or double down when you’re ahead and keep boots AND but a move speed pot lol
The obvious solution is to just remove all boots from the game because they're very boring items taking up a perfectly good item slot.
That's what Smite did. Added a speed bot that gave the same MS as boots but nothing else and didn't stack with boots. Then eventually they just got rid of them. Now your MS just scales til lvl7 and then you have the same MS as boots/speed potion gave you.
can I see a critnivia game? the crit animation on anivia looks like shes dabbing everytime she lands one lol
26:20 "She's gonna die watch" LMFAO
Goated dbz nu metal bg music broo 💯 🔥
I hope that one day Zwag considers switching his mythic for Eclipse when he's pondering the 6th item with these AD builds. 25ms (5 per item) makes the movespeed issue SO much more tolerable. Like yeah you're not gonna be Quinn but who can turn their nose up at tier 1 boots without having to actually buy them? Paired with Phantom Dancer you barely notice that you don't have boots.
Not to mention >50% armour pen, %HP burst and an extra shield. (Duskblade works too but late game Eclipse is better)
Subscribed. I have been watching your videos regularly for the past couple months. Love your content.
Thank you for all the hours of entertainment!
Swag going Adam mode
Riot: We need ideas for new Garen skin.
Random nondescript Riot employee: Give him bigger pauldrons.
Riot: :kreygasm:
Wow, that was incredible 🔥🔥🔥
I've been loving the videos. I watch both of them daily. Any chance of a Draven game?
Nice game Master Z!!! 🔥
I was like 15 min in and sure theres 2 games on this video.
Not a clickbait title i am impressed 😂
Some high quality worlds game play here
this was fun to watch
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
always love a good lawnmower video
Destroying low elo games , you are soo good man , just too good
Always love a Garen game 😂
the pronunciation of Coup De Grace is basically, Coo Deh Grah. if you wanna get frenchy with it that is. also its been two months, but here's that sub you asked for :) ive learned a lot from you man
To get attack speed you could run Hail of Blades, auto once to acrivate it and get the 110% as for 3 seconds
temporary attack speed doesn't work, only permanent, so things like hail of blade, lethal tempo, rageblade, or lulu w don't affect garen e, it's like how kai'sa evolve doesn't take temporary attack speed into it's calculation
@@brendan8114 oh, had no idea that it worked that way. Sad. Thank you for the info tho!
losing drag on ekko twice is wild he has one of the best smites in the game with passive
Zwag: spin of doom
Then instantly got slap of death
A thousand gold at 4:0 - yes, Zwag, you are most precious 😁
Zwag the literral english meaning of coup(koo) de(duh) grace(graw) is stroke of mercy
He knows... probably. With how sarcastic he is as a person it's astonishing to me how many people think he doesn't know how it's actually pronounced.
More like graw-suh
Maybe he said it like that because he's using a human lawnmower
Not Alone from FF9 as well? Zwag your music choice is impeccable
Day 58 begging for full lethality malphite with axiom arc, HoB and Ultimate Hunter.
Yes! Please do this zwag. After the lethality ornn video Im sure this would do really good on views.
begging? Groveling. Start again, Day 1 of Groveling😆
Day 59 begging your to stfu about malphite
Day 59 of asking you to watch the first strike malph video where he builds axiom arc…
No.
Your videos are amazing man💓
1:35 i feel ya man
Personally, I would've got Mortal Reminder instead of LDR, to completely shut down the Briar in one item. But if you were looking to an alternative to BT, Bork exists? Anywho. Keep up the plays Zwag. GG.
> sells boots
> proceeds to complain that you are slow
thank you for content!
Game was a blood bath 😂
5:31 unless you’re playing Garen into Quinn 😂☠️😂
14:40 That's where you're wrong, buddy!
this game deserve a comm
Lol zwag never has heard Coup de Grace spoken before
“Briar is so fun with her point and click cc” my brother in Christ you have a point and click execute
coup de grâce is a french expression meaning a final strike and it's not "cut the grass"
the p is silent so it's "cou" de grass if you prefer
basically a 45 min manscaped ad
When you tab before killing a minion or when chasing the illaoi knowing you will get her is that to show off or do you actually see something useful for the spilt seconds
i subscribed for that first blood :)
Koo-deh-grah, just say it 😂
I have acquired the morbid fear of appearing in one of these videos 🤣😅😶🌫
Sad I didn’t think of Navori Garen before. Prob cuz I don’t do crit Garen shenanigans. But I love crit shenanigans…. I should do Navori Shyvana. Buff dem fireballs
Zeag, where do you get the music in your vids? This is nice.
yo great game in silver elo
this is acctually the funniest buidl i ever played
when you have the first hit from brush try auto q auto then spin. its fast enough to kill wards, then its fast enough to catch someone off guard. ;)
35:09 death by cannon minion 😂
god, i love zwag
Ravenous would've been better I suspect - a bit less AD, but haste instead of crit overcap, and, more importantly, bonus AD scaling on abilities.
Back in my day, a match of league of legends lasted about an hour, so this was still a relatively quick game.
First blood sub granted! 😂
" Why are my shoulders bigger than my torso" - TC Zwag
The Bronze 3 experience...
The Ziggs balls lol
Hope you will get 1M subs.... it will be awesome
Gigachad Garen 💪
21:19 ziggs lost his balls in an explosion
"operation mow the lawn" is crazy lmao
How exactly do you proc Sudden Impact with Garen? By flashing?
He should just start callin it "cut the grass"
30:50
No, read the gray text at the bottom. The crit ratio is 87%, its 507 * 11
does approach velocity stack with Warwicks blood scent? because a 1 shot monster warwick able to perma roam sounds fun plus the faster you run the longer your alt distance could be really funny
Sadly it doesn't :/
WW's blood scent only buffs his move and attack speed
21:19 guess that's an everyday experience
I wonder when Riot will finally release the rune "Cut the grass" that Zwag talks so much about
What mountain russ of emotions
It's important to keep your collector so you can be sure you are the only one on your team who finish with full build.
Cut the grass!! Cut the GRASS!! 😆
first half was fun, second half was pure pain
I am watching you from Turkey you r a good player i really enjoy your gameplay thank you ❤
already subscribed m8!
Spin to win Garen. My favorite Garen
Been a while since you played Draven
I think crit garen will be the new way to play him,i will do crit garen every time i play him