Paul McCartney on Brian Epstein's homosexuality
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Paul McCartney on the Beatles’ attitudes towards their manager Brian Epstein’s homosexuality, and addresses rumours about a 1963 visit to Spain. #paulmccartney #johnlennon #brianepstein #beatles #thebeatles #homosexuality #oobujoobu
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I like the completely relaxed way Paul says 'I slept with John' knowing that nobody will take him the wrong way or even care if somebody did. The world is getting better, as the Stylistics once sang . . .
epstein was john's best man when he married cynthia powell, and he helped them financially with things early on, even lent them his flat free of charge in london. john would say they were close but not in that way.
His name was Epstein not epsetein.
@@TheHaratashi typo.
@@prisonersforprofit
So fix it 🤣
@@petemavus2948 Why don't you start by fixing yourself first. That might help those around you.
@@tigergreg8 But I'm fixating on poor spelling right now and although you'll take no responsibility for yours doesn't mean I'm not already doing a multitude of other things as well.
As far as your suggestion, I'd stand corrected if you knew anything about that as well. ✌️
The Beatles were so ahead of their time. They just didn't care Brian was gay.
Ahead of their time? No one has ever cared, only now the political agenda says and implores people to give a crap. Please communicate with older people, they will tell you.
@@ignacio6454 Ignacio o has visto poco O ves solo lo que quieres ver
And yet it was illegal in the UK until 1967, and public displays of homosexuality, things like kissing your partner, we're illegal until much later. homosexuals were also regularly assaulted and even killed simply for being gay.
So don't give me any of that "nobody cared" apologist nonsense. You're rewriting history to suit your own bigotry. And I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the older generations who claim they "didn't care" are lying through their teeth.
@@ignacio6454Could you please tell me then why Alan Turing was chemically castrated?
Are you kidding? Most all of the major British managers were gay.
Paul is always so charming. Kind and never flustered. He really must be lovely to have a chat with.
And classy. Composed. Always confident.
It might help if the person he was chatting with be up to par
He wouldn’t chat with commoners
@@eightiesmusic1984 I have heard on good authority he yells at people for parking in the street near him. We are all commoners compared to billionaires
@@eightiesmusic1984 yeah your story is unlikely, glad you agree
Whoever put an orchestral arrangement of you’ve got to hide your love away in the background thought they were real funny
The song was also used in Anthology when talking about Brian.
No disrespect intended with the soundtrack. We used George Martin and his Orchestra’s version, originally released in 1965 on their LP Help (featuring sleeve notes by Brian).
@@OobuJoobu I love all of George Martin's orchestrated interpretations of Beatles songs. Well done!
I didn't pick up what song it was. But that makes sense, if you believe he was gay.
But he wasn't so, yeah, that producer is a dork.
@@OobuJoobu
It's a common precept for not wearing your heart or preferences on your sleeve. Even Joni Mitchell sang " and if you care don't let them know, don't give yourself away " (Clouds/Both Sides Now). Doris Days "Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps" is another cheeky version on the same theme. 😜🤣😇😂🤫
Paul always keepin it real.
Paul McCartney is an old Poof ...
Especially back in the late 80's and 90's. He was not shy of saying anything back then.
@@user-rm8lr3tt7m And he keeps his face so innocent as he does it. LoL
Faul is lying, he wouldn’t have known Brian
@@jonathanbirch2022 😂 even if you were correct. The "theory" goes that "Faul" came into the picture in 66. While Brian left in 67. The fact that you don't even know the "theory" correctly is hilarious. 🤣
Paul is such a cool guy and I know exactly what he is talking about.
Cool = Foolish
Paul was not shy of saying anything back in the late 80's and 90's. We are very lucky The Beatles did Anthology in the 90's.
would he not say this in the early 80s or late 2000s or something
@@adonaiyah2196 no. After Lennon passed he was very apologetic. And after Linda and George passed he was very much just trying to not be honest if it meant that he would come off rude. I think it wasn't until the late 00's that he actually started to sound similar to the anthology series, but not quite as good.
Paul is the best storyteller. I bet his kids and grandkids are constantly on him to "tell that story about....".
"Gay dalliance." I like that expression.
I caught that. 😊
You must be young. That's an OLD saying :)
@@leonardodalongisland He's a young whippersnapper
Dalliance although treated as an 'effete' word is actually a more open/accepting way of acknowledging the spectrum.
@@spy1965 I wish I was still young. If your username means what I think it does, I've got you beat by ten years.
Oh you mean gay folks can control their impulses, separate business from personal life and do a great job? Where would the Beatles, and therefore so many of us who loved them, be if Brian had not been there for them professionally?
Also it might be that gay people are not attracted to EVERYONE from the same sex all the time. Or he respected that they were clearly straight. I was once at a party as the only straight guy in a room of 20 plus gay guys. I was kinda happy no one made a pass at me, but annoyed none of them thought enough of me to make a pass lol
@baronvonnembles lol It was a surprise birthday party for a gay friend. I did not know I was his only straight friend
True.
@baronvonnembles 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, Saradee, that is what Paul is saying.
Paul was cool, Brian was cool.
In the end it was all about the music and not about who was attracted to whom ❤😎🙏🤟
"The first thing I noticed were their trousers. Very tight trousers"......Leggy Mountbottom
Long live the Rutles!
Nothing left to the imagination.
@@dailyflash Yes! Yes! I see. *end scene abruptly*
great comment leggy haha
"Well, I'd been in the garment business for 30 years and know a thing or two about inseams, and these were definitely winners". - Dick Jaws
That was a great interview 🎉Paul spoke so honestly it was just great ❤
When I was a kid, this sort of thing never came up. It was all about the music.
Depends? It definitely came up in the Beatles era because of Little Richard and Johnny Mathis. It may have been a way to denigrate certain artists and lessen their impact, particularly if they weren’t white because they’d find it even harder to fight said rumors when even the press would be biased.
@@DDELFIERROYour point and knowledge of history is important.
Life before the first epidemic, people don't understand and take a lot for granted now. We now have extremists trying to turn back time and all civil rights accomplishments.
Totally makes sense. Brian was professional enough to know not to ever overstep his boundaries with “ the boys”.
It was a relationship I think based on mutual respect.
If and Brian and John ever had any kind of amorous relationship who knows or cares
Personally, I think they just great friends andJohn probably would shield that aspect of his life like he did.
Forever.
its almost like not all gay people impose themselves on every same sex person all the time
McCartney is always amazing, articulate and clearly a very intelligent man
That's not the real James Paul McCartney.
Paul always talks masterfully. Check ANY interview. Every word is absolutely perfect - incisive, witty, spontaneous, eloquent, unpretentious, brilliant.
This clip was taken from a BBC documentary the Brian Epstein Story which originally aired in 1998 it covered his entire life and was in two parts it has been shown several times on BBC 4 and it is well worth looking out for in fact almost certain you can find it on here
He was the real Fifth Beatle! They wouldn't have been as big without him.
george martin the 6th? billy preston the 7th? phil spectre the 8th? and so on.
@@morpher44 If there was a fifth, it was Martin. There are great managers, but without great art, they have nothing to manage. Martin helped the boys make great art, so he would unquestionably be the fifth member, if there was one.
@@thegrandpencil4374Yeah, George Martin was definitely the fifth. Orchestrating the band's ideas and coming up with his own.
He was integral to their success.
Until George Martin helped them with Revolver.
@@bryanmachin2152🤣
Paul is a good guy
What William is can only be defined once truth is out.
@@NaaHvathere never been a William to replace McCartney in the first place!
@@NaaHva go play in the yard, kiddo!!
@@elizabethfonseca922 If I was a kid I wouldn't listen to The Beatles since they suck.
He is. Genuinely.
Interesting the background music. People keep saying You got to hide your love away is for Brian.
Yes, even in Anthology, they played it in the background when talking about Brian.
Not true. But "And Your Bird Can Sing" was, meaning Brian's wang and the subsequent emission. Hey, I'm just the messenger.
Wow that song probably really was about Brian!
@@EM-mw2qr Its just what I read other people say. Paul said it was John doing a Dylan
@@nomenetasaili8598 It does seem to have a special hidden meaning tho.
Interesting to hear that Paul's accent has changed a bit here. And then it becomes closer to scouse again for a few phrases.
You can take the scouser out of Liverpool ,but you cant take the Liverpool out of the scouser..
I think Faul does a pretty good job of keeping up the accent etc.
That's because William is not from Liverpool. He is from Scotland.
Pete Best claims Brian made a pass but Pete said no thanks and that was it, it never came up again.
But he was replaced after that.....
@@melm4499
I thought it was their producer, not their manager who wanted rid of Pete Best... Ringo was seen both as the better drummer to suit the other Beatles' style of playing, plus drawing the girl fans toward Paul out there at the front instead of toward the drummer at the back...
Maybe I heard that wrong. I never heard of Brian "trying it on" with any of the lads.
@@brigidsingleton1596 By all accounts, Ringo wasn't really a better drummer than Pete Best, but he had more the image that matched that of the other 3. That Pete turned away Epstein's advances may have helped that along a little too, but the fans loved Pete, so it wasn't about the drumming that got him replaced.
@@jimo3173
Also, Ringo worked with 'Rory Storm and the Hurricanes', if I recall correctly, and they had a gig at a Butlins somewhere, to honour before Ringo could join The Beatles.
I'm glad Ringo joined them - he was my (now late) 🇮🇪 Mum's favourite Beatle.
I never cared much for Pete Best, but then,
I was only ten years old when they released "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" .,.so what did I know about that sort of attraction...!! I just loved their songs (and cheeky looks) ...and guitarists have always been my preferred musicians... I even bought myself a strat 🎸 in the early 2000's, but (due to the circumstances I found myself in at that time) I got 'tendonitis' in my right shoulder, arm and hand, and stopped lessons and that was that...😟 I wasn't 'determined enough' to continue, so would probably never been any good - or even mediocre - as a guitarist, sad to say!! 😟❤️🏴😏🎵🎶🎵🖖
@@brigidsingleton1596 Yeah but if say Pete never did get replaced and he was the drummer the whole time, people would probably have loved him just as much as they did Ringo because that's who they would have seen, heard, and got used to. If Ringo was first and they replaced him with Pete everyone would be saying Pete was better and Ringo wasn't any good. It's all subjective and part of human nature. Simply put, Ringo was an image they wanted that they didn't feel Pete had.
Well Paulie... if YOU don't know... no one ever will 😬
I think if anyone would know, it would be Yoko, even before Paul…
@@vampyros1
Most great Artists are able to think outside the box and go places most would fear to tread. They try to appreciate the many tints, tones and shades and understand color, light on things as well as forms taken. Paul showed good form, sensitivity, and respect to the parties considered despite the topic posed to him.
A true professional is flexible and gracious. They also don't want to allow themselves to become a hack or "cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" as Paul Simon so aptly put it.
@@petemavus2948 A possible scenario, but an artist’s open-mindedness could also manifest as iconoclastic candor regarding the conventions of acceptable etiquette, thus putting the kibosh on “form, sensitivity, and respect”. That’s “outside the box” also and, fwiw, typified the ‘ethos’ upon which 70s punk, amongst other genres, was steeped. All of which begs the question: At what point does a throng of mainstream-resistant ‘renegades’ in lockstep with one another paradoxically become the lemmings against whom they so vigorously rail?
Generally speaking, post-S&G Paul has held little interest for me, but maybe I missed something…
@@vampyros1
Maybe it's all too much and should be left for minds much greater than mine. That's when I just chalk it up to "The World's Green Laughter". Meanwhile... Stay well and have a good 🌉 night ! ✌️
@@petemavus2948 Ah, well said and, you too, be well. And happy listening!
They had something, I think it was the trousers. 😝
They were so... tight. You could see everything.... outlines...
Leggy Mountbatten's wife '...left nothing to the imagination ' 😅
@@jonathansteadman7935 Mother!
Played by Gwen Taylor, surely the inspiration for Mrs Merton.
Ah Leggy....I always wonder what might have happened if hadn't tragically accepted that teaching post in Australia.
What year was this interview done? Oh another post below says the interview was in 1998
It was 2007
What Paul is really saying is that he doesn't know whether there was any sexual stuff going on between John and Brian, he just knew there wasn't any sexual stuff going on between the boys themselves. He said that because many people may think there was, especially between John and Paul, but the reality was that they were just queer, meaning they didn't really give a rats ass about that stuff.
Also, men can be tight friends, just let it be ok?!
Let it Be? Nice choice of words, and I agree completely.
As Paul said in the clip, in Liverpool (and the rest of the UK) the word was 'queer' in reference to the 'homosexual'. They weren't gay so they definitely would not be 'queer'.
I don't really know what the word 'queer' means nowadays (perhaps something along the lines of, 'not straight').
Strangely being the cute Beatle, Brian didn’t so much as flirt with Paul once. Not his type probably, but Paul’s impenetrable heterosexuality was off limits to any gay fling.
Brian probably recognized Paul was unshakeably hetero while John may have been receptive
Why does he have to be hitting on everyone all the time? If you’re gay you can tell when someone isn’t interested or is straight and don’t bother because what’s the point
Still prancing.
Although, John and Paul did participate in a circle jerk ..
"we slept in bed all the time" thats pretty snuggly
If I were Brian, I would have chosen you, dear ❤️
He obviously had taste
Hahaah…
It’s hard to believe that Brian really was gay if he didn’t try and hit on Paul.
@kevinbush4300
He probably knew that McCartney wasn't what we are presented with
Paul was clearly heterosexual but John went through a questioning phase and got Yoko! His choice and he was happy for a time. He wrote some good songs.
@@mellowwillowpillow I just can't see that in John. It's odd enough they had circle jerks.
Whats the name of the full video/documentary, please?
This is excerpted from The Brian Epstein Story, a 1998 documentary by Anthony Wall made for the BBC's program Arena.
Thought Brian was engaged to a woman singer who passed away in 1966, can’t remember name but she died from cancer. Great video ❤
Alma Cogan was a close friend of Brian’s before tragically passing from cervical cancer at the age of 34 in October 1966. Not sure how much truth there is to this rumor though…
In 1987, Paul wrote of Cogan: “When the Beatles first came to London, Alma was lovely to us... welcoming us with open arms. All my memories of that time are very special to me. Her high spirits made being with her great fun. I will always remember Alma and her sweet music with great fondness.”
I think Alma Cogan and John were very close. Cynthia mentions this in her autobiography and says John thought she didn't know about their affair, but she did. He was extremely upset when Alma died.
A lot of gay men got married to women because of society pressure and in order to have kids. Philip Schofield would be a more recent example of that.
@@OobuJoobu Alma Cogan would have been a good match as a wife being about the same age as Brian and Jewish like him. Remember it was illegal to be a homosexual in the UK until 1967.
I doubt Brian hit on John. It would have destroyed their relationship going forward and it would certainly have been noticed by Paul and the others.
But he did want john. He like rough men and John was rough in those days. I think Brian even told John's Aunt Mimi "The others don't matter but I'll always take care of John."
John said years later that something happened. It wasn’t a love affair but it was something.
According to thee book The Love You Make John and Brian did have one encounter.
@@rdsieben Well I'm not sure they had any real proof of that, and I believe they said John was kind of a tease because he knew Brian liked him.
@@mrsbluesky8415 He kind of led Brian on because he knew that Brian liked him and he wanted to get good deals for The Beatles.
“It was just something we made fun of”’ ahh the good ole days….
John might have married Yoko to provide a mask for his true self.
Pete Shotton said, in his book, John told him about sex with Brian while on holiday. I have to give some credibility to this and maybe John was too embarrassed to admit to Paul. Certainly John had a violent reaction when he beat up Bob Wooler at Paul's b-day party, for teasing him about John's "holiday" with Brian.
😂wrong
Fruits . All the beatles were sausage jockeys😅😅😅😅😅
@@asphaltcowboy7567 elaborate
So was Mick jagger and David Bowie
@@paulf2898 oh indeed Bowie was a fine old Fruit. Jagger no I dont think so.
Cool belt
I doubt John Lennon was gay , as Paul puts it but I definitely think he could've been "curious' or "bisexual" or basically a free sexual spirit , when he was younger.
I reckon John Lennon went with Brian Epstein on holiday hoping all their friends would think they had a relationship. One of John's practical witty ways to create suspicion amongst his friends. 😅
NIGEL in Canada🇨🇦
Paul can make sense when he puts his mind to it
While Epstein was in the British Army, he commissioned a tailor to make him an officer's uniform. He wore the uniform when cruising the bars of London, but was arrested one night at the Army and Navy Club in Piccadilly by the military police for impersonating an officer. Epstein managed to avoid a court martial by agreeing to see an army psychiatrist, who learned of Epstein's sexuality. After ten months he was discharged from the army on medical grounds for being "emotionally and mentally unfit". Epstein later stated that his first homosexual experience was when he returned to Liverpool after being discharged.
Epstein spent a year studying acting at RADA, but dropped out shortly after his arrest for "persistent importuning" outside a men's public toilet in Swiss Cottage, London. Cottaging, as it was called, was one of the few public ways that gay and bisexual men could meet at the time, especially if they were closeted. When Epstein first saw the Beatles perform he noticed their stage attire first, saying, "They were rather scruffily dressed, in the nicest possible way, or I should say in the most attractive way-black leather jackets, jeans, long hair of course." McCartney said that when Epstein started to manage the Beatles they knew that he was homosexual but did not care, because he encouraged them professionally and offered them access to previously "off-limits" social circles.
Although the group, Lennon in particular, often made sarcastic comments about Epstein's homosexuality to friends and to Epstein personally, no one outside the group's inner circle was allowed to comment. Ian Sharp, one of Lennon's art-school friends, once made a sarcastic remark about Epstein, saying, "Which one of you (Beatles) does he fancy?" Sharp was sent a letter by Epstein's office within 48 hours that demanded a complete apology. Sharp apologised, but was then completely ostracised. McCartney sent him a letter directing him to have no contact with any of them in the future. Epstein went on holiday to places such as Amsterdam, Torremolinos and Barcelona or Manchester at weekends, as the attitude towards homosexuals there was more tolerant than in Liverpool, even though Liverpool did have several gay bars.
In his autobiography, Pete Best stated that Epstein drove them both to Blackpool one evening where Epstein expressed his "very fond admiration." Epstein then supposedly said, "Would you find it embarrassing if I ask you to stay in a hotel overnight?" Best replied that he was not interested, and the two never mentioned the incident again. There were reports of a brief sexual encounter between Lennon and Epstein during a four-day holiday in Barcelona in April 1963. Lennon admitted in a 1971 Rolling Stone interview that he knew Epstein was a “fag” (British slang for gay) and that he (Lennon) enjoyed “playing a bit faggy and all that”. Addressing the rumours again later, Lennon told Playboy in 1980: "Well, it was almost a love affair, but not quite. It was never consummated ... but we did have a pretty intense relationship." A fictionalised account of the Spanish holiday is featured in the 1991 film The Hours and Times.
Pauls analogy about Brians "homosexuality" traditionally true. The working class version for Gay was "Queer" & once upon a time that was nothing to be proud of but sensitive to.
I'd love Paul to rank all the Beatles and Beatle-themed movies. What, for example, did he think of THE HOURS?
What is that? I've never heard of it, and I thought I knew all of them....
@@bryanmachin2152 THE HOURS AND TIMES ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hours_and_Times
The real question is... how exactly do you tell if a british guy is gay?
John grew enraged at any suggestion he was gay, beating up a DJ on Paul's twenty-first b-day. Hmmm 🤔
Yea. John gave him the beating of his life. I heard some of the interview of John talking about it but it cuts off during the documentary I was watching it on as the narrator continued.
He became more open to homosexuality as he grew older.
And John did have sex with Brian. He told Pete Shotton, who has since talked about it publicly. He was just really insecure and concerned about his image. You had to be, especially as a tough Scouse kid back then.
@@Nerkin610 Never happened
@@JohnSmith-su3ze You know more than John’s childhood friend then!
I like Paul a lot
I'm gay and grew up loving the Beatles. I have all the original albums..and must have had a gay crush on them before I CAME OUT AT 20 YEARS OF AGE..BOB IN CINCINNATI. PS SAW THEM AT CROSLEY FIELDS WHEN I WAS 11
" He loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah!"
Hahahahaha !!!
Thing is,it did not really matter then or now. Character of the person is what matters most. Does it really matter who DaVinci was with when creating what ever discipline he felt like mastering. The world is a naturally random place. Didn't even make original top 10 list.
They added Boys to their set especially for Brian but made Ringo sing it.
Pete Best used to sing it before Ringo even joined.
I like the song, and he does a good job with it. He still sings it at his concerts, and he doesn't have to, so I seriously doubt he is bothered by it in any way, regardless of the meaning. And the Beatles have always said that they made group decisions and never forced each other to do anything.
It was just unspoken even though they kind of knew. Back then one didn’t speak directly about it because someone could end up in jail.
You mean in Britain. In most Europe homosexuality was not illegal and you could talk about it to your heart desire.
@pawelpap9 and then get the shit beat out of you
On ya Paul ❤️
I had heard years ago that John just did it for the experience of it and and didn't like it so he didn't do it again so Brian ended his own existence. That was the hub bub many years ago. Never cared much for the Beatles so didn't pay that much attention.
There was never any even remote vague indication that any of the Beatles were gay. As a totally NOT naive New Yorker, i would have noticed this.
And people still don't seem to understand, that gay is your sex preference. It has nothing to do with business. THAT, whether gay or straight is ALWAYS about power. And the Beatles, as most musicians aren't, were not some desperate, insecure virgins, ripe for intimidation.
I really hate all these vague rumors by people trying to make a buck, when someone is too dead to sue you.
Paul looks strangely similar to Tom Chaplin from Keane (when they were big in 2005-07) in this lol
Why do filmmakers put in annoying music while people are talking?
🤬😡. I turned it off.
How many years ago are we talking about?? Seriously :/
“Just something you made fun of” 😂 Can’t say that anymore in jest. People are way too sensitive. Times have changed
In the '70's I was engaged to a man who (as with all of his mates) called gays "shirtlifters" or "poufs" or "bent" ...and it always made me feel I would be unkind if I agreed ...but years later after getting married to a (different) man, but with a (slightly) similar attitude, I remember thinking and saying, on one occasion,
'I didn't think I'd ever met any gay people...' and someone hinted that I was mistaken, I just replied 'okay then, as far as I'm aware, I've never met anyone who was gay.'As it turned out...
...when my twins turned 21years old,
I _accidently_ 'outed' my son, which upset me, as I would never have done so deliberately, plus I felt guilty for not ever realising he was gay until he said so - after my feeble joke - 'I didn't know you liked pink so much...?!' (his twin sister had given him a gift in a pink box, saying Disney only sold that particular item in pink boxes), a different item, my son didn't want in his collection, Disney only sold in blue boxes...
Then, his twin sister said _she_ 's gay as well ...but my eldest, as I looked at her, surprised, said quickly, "No, I'm straight'!!" ...
I used to say of my three, when they were very young, if asked,
'I have three, one of each: a girl, a boy and a tomboy' (as my eldest daughter wasn't into dolls but like clmbing trees etc) ... As it turned out, I still have three, one of each: a straight daughter, a gay daughter (lesbian), and a gay son...
And, fortunately, they're all happy, kind, intelligent and reasonable people, so that pleases me. If they were unhappy, unkind, dim or unreasonable, I'd feel I must've let them down as their Mum.
As things stand, they're good people and I _hope_ that that has (at least) _something_ to do with how I raised them to be. 🏴❤️🇨🇦*❤️🏴💙🖖
(*My eldest - straight - daughter now lives in Canada 🇨🇦* with her rescued dog.🦮💙)
If 2/3 of your kids are gay it's because of something you did
@baronvonnembles
I don't understand, and apologise for being 'dim' but... Why "very sad" exactly? 🤔🏴❤️🇬🇧🌝🇨🇦🤔🖖
@@brigidsingleton1596Just from your comment, you sound like an amazing mother. I'm sure them turning out to be good people has a lot to do with your kindness and parenting. Glad to hear you and your family are happy and doing well!
@@grawman67
Thank-you so much, that's very kind of you to say so. Indeed, I hope the way I _tried_ to raise them all (despite various difficulties endured through both of my two failed marriages - 'philandering' / 'wandering' ex's)) has helped in _some way_ to bring them to a happier adulthood, at the very least better than my own. 🤔🏴❤️🇬🇧🖖
NIGEL in Canada🇨🇦
'ime the leader, deal with me' , LENNON said
John lost that
drugs, Paul and George improved so much ?
but John didn't look like a 'leader' in the end of the group
I say drugs and not getting much better on his guitar 🎸
I read Brian had his eye on Peter Best
But the businessman in him knew he wasn't a Beatle. George Martin and EMI knew he wasn't a Beatle and more to the point, John, Paul and George knew he wasn't a Beatle.
Allegedly...Pete Best was "approached" by Brian, but soon made his objection clear! No idea of truth of it, but apparently it was from Pete himself.
Brian had number of " personal assistants" who ripped him off.
Maybe we all talk too much now, ad nauseam!
I love the fact that a gay manager helped one of the best bands in the world EVER to achieve success 🎉🎉 RIP Epstein 🌈🫶🏽🫶🏻📝🇬🇧
Yeah- It was all because he was gay - Thats what made him the man he was of course
I agree!!
@@bernadettepotenti301 It makes me happy to know BE contributed to their success 🎉But it's tinged with sadness because he hide to hide who he truly was , there's another gay connection with the Beatles and that's via the singer/songwriter/Billy Preston 🥺
There is an interview from the 70’s where Paul says absolutely nothing happened on that trip. Nothing. Here he says he doesn’t know. Interesting.
While John was alive, Paul would probably lie (at least about his level of knowledge of the true facts) to "protect" John's reputation. Such a rumor in the 70s it would not have helped John's career. His audience was different than David Bowie's audience.
Paul doesn't know that absolutely nothing happened.
He always talks shit
@ktcarl if anyone would know it would be him.. John loved and was with tons of women
“We didn’t know any, it was just something you made fun of.” Some things never change lol
yet Elton John feels he had a thing with John Lennon.
Gives a 2min answer to a Yes or No question
Paul is so dang cool.👍🏾
Doesn't matter really, because ultimately he helped them and a few other groups and sadly died way too young.
WHO?! Who didn’t wanna hit on Paul?😂
Everybody I knew did, incIuding me!
Paulie is so cute like oh my god
I think the song Monkberry Moon Delight was about John and Brian's affair.
Interesting, never heard this before. I always thought it was about a certain part of the female anatomy. Linda is happily chiming in there for sure.... But only Paul really knows!
The background music is unnecessary
PM looks like my great grandmother!
YOKO started that "John is gay" BS
It doesn’t matter one iota to me if they did.
John played it both ways😂
Pete Best said Brian hit on him.
Billy Preston was gay, too. Whether or not they were aware of it who knows. They clearly wouldn't have cared anyway. Now if Brian was still around when Billy came on the scene... Wonder how that would have turned out? Would they have hit it off, had a feud or whatever?
That's a shame
Paul is not aware of his role.
But Brian and John went to Spain to see the bullfighting and it seemed John was curious about gay relations. Brian really preferd Paul,but John was more interesting. RIP John and Brian.🇬🇧🎸
Mightn't Cynthia have known and had something to say...?
Sorry, John was with and loved tons of women
@@asphaltcowboy7567 And the trip to Spain with Brian Epstein. Every biography has a mention of it and what about Cynthia and Julian? They just let him go?
@@slide4180despite all the grief John caused her, she never supported such rumors. She knew John was cheating on her right and left, but, as she said in her memoirs, it was with women.
So EPSTEIN just rammed it up Lennon's you know where that evening didn't he?! Eh? Eh??
Yes, in the 1960s we called them queer.
Why the music?
Plenty of Epsteins I've known of were peculiar. Even one woman with that surname.
Right from the horse’s mouth, confirmation that The Beatles was John’s band.
In the beginning. By Sgt Pepper, John checked out (drugs) and Paul stepped in.
Only for their weaker albums was it “John’s band.”
Let’s lay these rumors to rest right now: If Brian had EVER - EVEN ONCE - Attempted to hit on John In anyway, John would’ve punched him so hard he’d still be picking his teeth out of the back of his throat today 60 years later, in his grave.
Says who?
Brian probably was into rough trade if he liked John more than Paul. Paul was too polite for Brian.
I think Paul should have just said John was not homosexual instead of "I'm not sure" what happened. I'm sure Lennon if he were still alive would be offended when Paul said he wasn't sure. McCartney here left it to question instead of stating the obvious that Lennon wasn't a homo.
He's absolutely babbling and knew John was at least bi but won't admit to it. You can tell Paul feels in his heart that the John and Brian had s*xual relations, or at least John may have even fessed up to it to Paul.
What's up with the music?
From my own memoies. of the Beatles Brian Eksteen took an over dose cause he could not handle Helen Shapiro him as promotor. That does not strike me as gay activity . Is that true ? Gues i will never know for..does it matter? No
Paul Flippin people off whenever he can
...John famously described what happened during his vacation with Brian, while his wife and new born son Julian lay in a public hospital room in England. Lennon said that he asked Brian : " I suppose you want to have it up me arse ? " , and Epstein replied, " No John....I just want to touch it". Lennon then said, " So I let him toss me off...what's a toss off between friends ??!! " Who knows if this is true,or, Lennon was just " putting on" the reporter. One thing IS true, however. When friend Bob Wooler joked with Lennon at Paul's 21st birthday party about a possible gay experience with Epstein, John smashed him over the head with a chair in a violent rage that could have killed Wooler. Reporters in attendance were quietly paid off by Epstein and the incident was hushed up. Whatever really happened, Lennon was sure sensitive about any suggestion of gay activity with Epstein at the time. Tony Sheridan...who the Beatles backed on a few single records...said before he died that Lennon would sometimes go missing in Hamburg when they were due onstage and that he sometimes found him in a gay nightclub where many there were transvestites. Sheridan also commented on Paul's appearance at the time, saying he thought Paul's eyebrows were plucked to perfection in a very feminine way, where he thought he might be gay. In addition, there is a striking photo of Beatle Stuart Sutcliffe with Astrid Kircherr and Klaus Voorman in Hamburg where their clothing appears to be very gay. In the end...without the gay Brian Epstein, there certainly would never have been the Beatles !
After seeing this interview I'm actually wondering whether Paul is gay.
He's straight
Brian & Billy sittin in a tree...
To all you PID believes, if you watch the"James Paul McCartney "TV special 1973 (here on RUclips for everyone to see) at the 20 minutes mark there's a McCartney family get together in a Liverpool pub, they are all getting pissed (drunk) calling him Paul, singing along with him and showering him with kisses! Now how is it that his Dad, aunties, uncles and cousins, can not see that he's not their Paul, the one they have grown up with, the one they have always known, but he's in fact an imposter named Billy?
You're trying to bring logic in reason into that argument. Your first mistake. Lol
They can't see he's not because he IS the same Paul, you daft brush!
@@cd3949 what iam bringing is the truth! Of course McCartney never died or was replaced in 1966 and the pub seen in the "James Paul McCartney" TV special 1973, 100% proves it!
@@beatlebrian4404 Why get all worked up over this particular internet conspiracy theory/delusion? There are much more harmful internet delusions to be upset about in the political arena. Why does the internet bring out the bat sh-t crazy in otherwise sane people? Or does the internet just expose the types of people who have always been around in the same numbers even before the internet?
I am in love ❤❤❤😂
the music is not helpful
I think it's for copyright reasons.