GOTTLIEB BRONCO EM PINBALL RESTORE PART 2 and a XENOPHOBE RESTORE UPDATE
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PART #1 • John gets an EM Pinbal...
GOTTLIEB BRONCO EM PINBALL RESTORE PART 2 and a XENOPHOBE RESTORE UPDATE 
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John, the first thing you should do with ANY vintage pinball machine is disconnect all those plugs out of the back box (they're called "Jones plugs", the ones you used to electronically connect the lower box to the head) plus any in the lower box as well. Take either a wire brush or fine grit sandpaper and clean the male pins on the plugs. You only need to clean the outside edges and inside edges of the posts as they are round but fit in to square holes. You don't need to clean the female parts of the plugs, just insert and remove the male parts 2 or three times and that will basically clean the square receptacle part of the plug. You can spray a small amount of WD-40 on male pin part of the plugs to prevent future corrosion. This often times will eliminate a problem or two right away, if not, well, it's certainly required maintenance to do. Remember, no matter how many units you clean in the head... if there isn't really good electrical connection to the machine below... it still won't work... and you'll be frustrated trying to figure out why... Believe me, Jones plugs have a known history of failing due to neglect and corrosion, and usually it's and easy fix! (sorry this comment was so frick'n long... LOL)
One helpful bit of advice given to me when I got my EM was to first clean all the contacts on the Jones Plugs with a Scotch Pad and WD40. Those things tend to get crusty and build resistance and stop parts from working.
Yes! Been waiting for this ever since you picked ti up. So fascinating to see how people still did everything without computers.
Another great video John. I love this channel!
Great project, continue please, it's very interesting. The head has character, can't wait to see it, with all the bulbs lit.
To remove the rust from the legs and polish the metal at the same time use aluminum foil and ball it up and get it damp with water. Creates at paste as you rub. Trust me it's amazing. I do this on the rods on my foosball restores.
Oh thank god! I felt the presence of a spirit yesterday and just knew you were working on a new video at that moment. And here we are. Monday morning, just in time to ruin my productivity : )
Safety tip John: lean the bottom back against the wall (the lock bar up and touching wall) then put the back legs on with it tilted back. If the stool is anything like the shaky table... Also recommend putting a screw on inside of leg plates so they don't get lost again. There are holes for just that reason in the plates.
Ah, its getting some love, finally! :) Also goddamn i got nervous fast when you just let the backbox stand unsecured like that and turned your back on it! ive done that myself 2 times and both times i saved them in the nick of time from falling forward.
Subscribed you have very good information and tutorials on these games. I might be buying one so you defiantly be a go to with issues might have with any arcade games machines
EM pins look cool, they belong in every collection,
im impressed and a bit surprised at Ghost Busters being that cool...great job!!!!
I'm so pumped. Been waiting a year for this.
I would use a vaccum with a delicate brush for heavy dust and to clean the relays and wires, and follow it up with compressed air to get in the nooks and crannies. Also, instead of Teflon Spray.. What do you think about using silicone spray?
That suffering in the stairs, very adequate music ^^
Good plan, start with the credit unit. You will need your "wobbly" table behind the game to work off of so you have to unsolder all those wires. I have always just clean all the old greese off all the pivot points with your favorite cleaner and she should work. No new lube is needed. The scoring on player 2 is a sticky ball unit which is not skipping over the unused players fully, might be under the playfield.
I would love to have a room like this. Some great games you have there.
With all those wire bundles, solder points, and relays, you're a braver man then I am john. LOL, but this is bound to be a fun and very informative restore as always and I'm looking forward to it. If it gets to be too much though a side video like the firefox and the Happ Gun to Red Tent mod would make for probably an easy breather as this one looks like a doozie.
loved the intro!
The opening "watch John get a hernia"
I think it'll be cool watching you work on an old style pinball. Something completely different
Hey John! This is Anthony. Thanks for taking my question and sorry to have got you stumped a bit. Now, i have played the original pinball machine of the Lord Of The Rings (it is 2003!) and was pretty hooked on it. The mall near me actually still has it in the arcade. I wanted to go for The Hobbit or Ghostbusters as runner ups. I love the game play on both of those. I don't think i would be unhappy with any of the 3 that i will finally choose. I guess i am going to play it by ear for the money i will spend. I wanted The Hobbit actually as my first choice but chose the Lord Of The Rings for price and i think it could be easier to fix down the road maybe? Of course it might be cheaper to fix than The Hobbit. As for Ghostbusters, getting a Pro version might be in the cards also. I will think of getting maybe The Lord Of The Rings and Ghostbusters if my brother could make some room for one of them in the house. i will be talking to him about that!. I did get my A+ certification for being a PC technician so i don't think i will be intimidated by any repairs and have solder experience also. I really appreciate you giving me an idea of where to go and 2 machines for the price of 1 Hobbit, that might be the ticket! I will let you know what happens! Thanks again!
Anthony
I'm looking forward to this project, it will definitely be a new challenge for you but should be interesting. as far as look I think you should LED it. I think EM pins with LEDs look real nice
I know it's been a couple years since you posted this video, but, I just purchased a Bronco EM machine for a new after school boys and girls center in Fremont, NH my wife and I just opened. I thought the kids would really enjoy playing this old school machine. It came with zero paperwork. I noticed from your video you had two copies of the electrical schematic. Is there any way I could get a copy or purchase one from you?
The game has some similar functionality issues that need addressing and without the wiring diagram it's a shit ton of wiring and lot of guessing. You'll be helping a lot of kids have some pinball fun!
Thanks Paul
Go UMass!!
Lol! Love that "lost" version of Computer Space!
I'm still traumatised :)
That looks like a very hairy thing to work on. Good luck John!
The latch relay bank in the bottom back the playfield is hanging out, it should have some bolts to secure. New coil sleeves, clean all the plungers, some new coils stops, a rubber kit and it will play like new. Keep wd40 as far away as posible. Also a flipper rebuild kit will not harm. 4 player gottliebs aren't the most reliable pinballs out there (the player unit got excessive work) but plays fine.
Hi John, from my experience the back door is metal.
But you can use MDF or ply.
36:09 "And this whole thing comes down in a very scary fashion"
john!!!!!! hell yes its worth it .... ilove it get it done
Get a can of PB Blaster to de-gunk the stickiness. Your local hardware store should have it. It did a great job on my Gotlieb Spirit of 76.
spooky cold opening... it's like he's hauling the body away.
I made me think something bad was going to happen to the game.
I was like OMG he just bear hugged that pinball down the stairs. He is going to die. OO, just the head.
The Bronco would fit nicely next to the Tapper.
XENOPHOBE should do well at the hanger
thx for the vid John :)
have you considered having a translite repro back glass made for display and storing the original?
I would recommend compressed air as well to get dust off..
36m38s LMAO!! Is the Bronco talking to you John?
Hi John, I used basso to clean the contacts.
looks good first thing is clean it up
GREAT VIDEO 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Would love to see Warren and Adam back in the basement
also clean connecting pins to the head board
Absolutely right Alexander... Number ONE task of anybody bringing a pinball back to life...!!
Are you going to repaint the cabinet if you get it running properly, John? Would you be up to the task of recreating stencils for the spray painted art?
I haven't considered that yet. Let's get it working first... :)
nice
Do you have a Spy Hunter at The Hanger? Do you think it will be very crowded on Sunday, February 5?
Those EM Pins had a sheet metal back door. The door had folds in it the width of the channel so it fit in the channel. I have a dogies from the late 60s. EMs aren't particularly popular because they are "boring" compared to modern era pins.
Hey John. Next time you get into that Quartet you might want to hit the raw wood near the speaker with rattle can black or even a sharpie. Looks like it shows a lot being it's such a contrasting color against all that black.
This is really bothering some of you guys. :) You can't see it at all with the grill on. :) My light is VERY bright so it shows it off more.
No worries John! Hope it brings in a bunch of quarters!
i love that game!!!!!!.. you can do it ..its a great potential game!!!!
your next machine for the basement must Be POINT BLANK From namco. i think it would look cool. and its a light gun shooter
do it john and make it beautiful but original
I'd only start investing in the cosmetics of the Bronco after all the internals are working like they should. Just my thoughts though :)
That bronco gameplay is so slow. Thats how it was with pinball in the 1970's. I think the best pinball era was the late 80's early 90's. Taxi, Elvira and the party monster, or Terminator were great. Still happy John is giving some attention to pinball anyway. John's Ghostbusters pinball is great.
Well, it's SUPER slow right now because it's not leveled right.
John,you probably figured it out. Metal back door,not wood.I 've been so curious about this machine. Big email fan.I owned 4 in my life.
John, tackle the new bulbs for Bronco on the next video? Seems like an easy fix?
John or any1 I am really curious, can u put more than one jamma switcher in a jamma cab (e.g 3+ boards)
Maybe you should look at getting some new solenoids for the flippers and credit reel.
Could be just dirty. Coils are probably fine.
You are most likely right, it was more of a "just in case" measure than an absolute requirement.
(I am not an expert in pinball in any way, just FYI)
Idea for a Game to restore or easy fix killer instinct 1 and 2
if I were you I'd invest in Stern's new E.M. setup
Old vid i know but my vote would be for LOTR. Look up the vid on trying to get to Valinor on Lord of the rings and you'll see an hr game with tons of modes etc that game surprised me how deep it was. Was hoping for a Bronco #3 at some point, k later.
i see the Aerosmith just came out...it looks great,,,, the joker and the toys in the attic multiball is way cool!!!!
2:21 the pin makes its appearance among all the videos
For those interested, here's the sound fix portion in his other video: ruclips.net/video/E0I-8mO8y1Q/видео.html
it's the controller board on the head
LED mod that Bronco stat!
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It looks like there's a pretty big gap between the Xenophobe's side and control panel. Was it just not buckled down?
That thing is so classic its crazy, i never was pulled to these old pins (i was more into star trek net gen etc) but i gotta say my interest is piqued. Yeah man replace all the bulbs and playfiled bands, clean the contacts yada yada get it going clean and fast man ; )
razorblade remove that sticker on the bottom left on Xeno's bezel?
~ Quick question buddy,
How much would you offer for a fair un-restored TURBO regulation sized cabinet? There's one around the block from me in a garage.
~ Cool Video & keep having fun
You mean an upright? They don't sell for much. $200-$300?
~ Yep ~ an upright. Thanx Homie ~ I appreciate your input.
& I hope all is still well w/ the Barcade you're partnered in. Count up them quarters baby - you have a daughter to put through college.
Bee Well
pinball looks great in basement! I think its a keeper. I am working on an em pinball from same area. I have a Royal Guard. my back glass is worse than yours. I need a new one. maybe a viewer may have one. Help please.
Into this at the 2:30 mark, Dude! John! Where's your friends at... If I was closer I'd help ya brother... Anyway, I'm watching the rest...
Not sure about lubing the player unit. I thought they were supposed to run dry.
Link to part 1?
eh..I don't see you keeping it long term. I anticipate another 90's pin project coming at some point...
+Robert Nine me too
Seeing the game downstairs,yeah this is gonna be a short term relationship.
John put LED lights in the Bronco
I kind of don't hate this idea.
i have my Kiss ..next up from the pro... and a brand shiny new ..not yet delivered but paid in full.. Medevial Madness remnake!!! how can you go wrong.. my kiss is $8500...and the Madness too!!!
For a game with more "oomph" - look up "high tap mod"
you can post the scheme?
its not found in the internet
you clean they fingers and set them and clean the board in the middle
hey John the bronco definitely does not fit in the basement but I think it would be interesting to watch you work on it I would like to see you get it going the right way then get rid of it. lol just kidding
Stoel ? Kruk ? Chair ?
that plug doesn't look heavy-duty to me.please don't give up.
My wife would have scolded me for moving it myself.. ha
Personally I'd get it working 100% before investing into a full restore. I get a sense of regret from you about this pin lol Perhaps after all the work you will put into it, it will make it grow on you. Other wise you can sell it and take that knowledge to do a full restore on a em pin that you like the most. Perhaps I'm ignorant but when it comes to em pins, other then the history of each one, it seems play the same (Just pick the theme you like and there you go).
Out of place? The Computer Space is much older no?
ha. Yeah. Well... the Computer Space is from the future!
Have you dropped Xeno @ the hangar?
+Tyler Universe is at Hangar in Westfield Ma
beautiful work btw :)
give it a month at the hanger see how it does
Pinball machines are waaaaaaay too expensive. No wonder why you only have 3 or 4 of them John lol. However if I was rich Pinball machines would be one of my collections. I would have to modify them for wheelchair use though.... cannot stand longer than 10 minutes before legs start to cramp up and the pain becomes unbearable.... long story.
elbow grease
liked the cool intro, until it looked lile that you were going to crash your cart into the corner of your fiberglass computer space, heart skipped a beat.
lmao... you are funny ... just get it done you have knowledge ...i wish i had but i am learning from you... it needs cleaning number1 ..
WHAt!!!??? NO EMAIL FROM RON PHILLIPS!!!???
@34:12 Spider carcass
Man you really glossed over that audio chip fix! After all the time spent in the previous video! I have a Defender I have tried everything and gave up on fixing the sound but maybe its the chip on the pcb.
Well, we did cover it in the last video. :)
Thanks Micky D
#bringwarrenback
I saw an old restore thread on a bronco pinball you might want to look at www.rainfall.com/pinball1/machines/Gottlieb-Bronco/gottlieb-bronco-pinball.html
So is the outsiders podcast coming back because I don't wanna have to find another arcade podcast coz I've tried others and man are they boring as fuck, anyway keep up the good work John
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