Cheapest Gold Coins - Austrian Gold Philharmonic
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- One of the cheapest gold coins among well-known options, the 1/4oz Austrian Gold Philharmonic is a fantastic, 24k gold coin with low premiums.
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(May 2022) SD Bullion premium for a quarter ounce gold eagle was 31%. Quarter ounce Philharmonic was 8.5%
Yup, been buying gold Philharmonics of all sizes in my last few purchases. Aside from having the lowest premiums, they are the only ones normally available, which is great. As I mentioned in other channels, the Philharmonics are underrated (Au and Ag). The design on both sides are very detailed and intricate enough that it is difficult to copy and fake. Good insights. Peace!
You're way ahead of me then. It's a bit of a sleeper coin!
@@2is1gold I don't know about that, good sir. My last few purchases were not a lot, and were actually few and far between. Looking forward to your next vid.
Thanks! This was good advice for comparison shopping of gold down the road. I recently made my first gold purchase of a 1/10 Britannia and while I realize they've got you in a vise grip on the over spot costs, it was the most reasonably priced 1/10 I came across after looking at the 1/10 Eagles.
Hey, and unrelated but kind of related---I agree with you on the Philharmonic coin content: looking at those instruments on the reverse of the coin is my cure for late night insomnia...but my wife took me to Paris for my 50th a year and a half ago and we came across a guy on the street playing a harp! Absolutely beautiful instrument to see up close and personal. Here I'm used to the guys playing the drums on the upside down Home Depot buckets outside of Wrigley Field and I get to see this! I had to drop a few euros in his case. So long story short, I guess I'd pick up the Philharmonics just to enjoy that harp!
Ha! Personal context definitely has a way of changing your mind on aesthetics!
Just subscribed. The Philharmonic is a lovely coin and the unusual ridges on the side are an added bonus. Austria is famous for more than music and have a fine collection of three gold coins dedicated to three Psychologists, Freud, Adler and Frankl, in a limited edition. Well worth a look, if you can find them. Oh, and all are quarter ounce gold in your preferred 22ml sizes. Keep up the good work.
I didn’t know about those coins! Thanks for watching and thanks for the rip! Cheers!
I like the Philharmonic design
Most people do. I'm an outlier just as someone who thinks it's a little boring.
I love the philharmonic but I'm not crazy about the fonts
Just got a 1/4 ounce one. I like it because it's gold, but the coin reminds me of tokens that you might get at a video game arcade.
@@wd3574 kind of true lol.
Almost 2 years later. I'm still finding that the Philharmonic is the best premium again. Got a few 1/4 oz Philharmonics on the way right now actually. It's like Christmas when the mail comes when you know there is bullion in it! 🤤💌
Definitely a beautiful coin. There are years in past sales where the AP was the best selling gold coin in the world. Today, they hold their own . Respect the music. Gotta respect the music.
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I love the Austrian coin! I have a few. No ugly queen face or anything :p.
Ha!
if she was young and attractive I'd by those coins more often with the queens portrait but since she's not attractive, and I like the simplicity and straightforward attitude of the Austrian mint I'm seeing my buying them instead. The only down side to the philharmonics is the lack of security features.
Subbed. No other bullion coin in my stack that gives that bright gold look as the Phil. I like that the 1 oz are 37mm. It just looks bigger than an eagle or buffalo
They definitely shine!
No Phil's at my LCS and online premiums are just waaay too high rn. Great vid none the less
LCS is total hit and miss, but last week, even APMEX had them for $520.
@@2is1gold will take a look for sure !
The Phil's and Maples are great buys, and they're ,9999! Great job!👍
Thanks!
I agree the coin is typically cheaper and I have no problem buying them for that reason! The design is just fine, not the best and not the worst! Why is that like button so hard to hit for people! I will never understand that!
If you don't post videos, you don't know how important the like button is. I don't think people realize it's not just a compliment, it's a boost.
I like the Phil - I have a 1 oz version, and it is pretty big (in diameter) which is cool, and the edge also has some design 👍 can’t go wrong with cheap pure 24k gold
I saw that, and of course you do! 😂
Gold Philharmonic same diameter as a Silver Philharmonic and has a pretty cool reeded edge. But since it has such a large diameter, the coins are super thin and fragile... dented the edge of one from accidently dropping it on a glass table 2 inches high.
That’s too bad. It’s cool that the gold and silver diameter is the same, but the 1oz profile is too thin. The 1/4oz isn’t that way. Much more in line with other popular coins.
First thing I ask my local dealer when I stops, is "What do you have at gold melt?" :) He never fails to surprise me. I avoid high premiums this way.
That's great!
It’s always a good choice to diversify. I’m glad you’re venturing out to alternative coin designs with the high premiums out there. Can you please do a video on your thoughts of the American Eagle design continuing to 2021 now? I know a lot of people who picked up extra eagles because the US Mint had stated this was the final year for the current design and now that has changed. Thanks again 2. Keep stacking them phils 😂
Good topic idea. Spoiler, though. I don't care one bit about key dates, and I think the new design will be much more popular than the current over time. (And nobody wants to hear that! 😂)
@@2is1gold Blasphemy!! Lol but hey, to each his own. I wish I thought that way!
@@ticktology 😁 the sketches look bad. But the sculpted reliefs will look great. They’ll probably be extremely intricate or they’ll be on a textured field. I see this as a chance to bring US coins on par with the RCM and Royal Mint.
I just picked up the 1 oz gold philharmonic last week....its a beautiful coin
They're nice!
I picked up a tube of 1/25th gold philharmonics, and some loose ones as well. Going to get some 1/4 oz gold phils soon, and since I got the gold I decided to get a tube of silver phillies as well. GREAT option and couldn't be happier. Nice diversification and it's gov't backed, premium bullion so I will take that all day. Excellent video! Thanks.
Hey, thanks! Phils are easy to find too!
I had a feeling I'd find this on your channel - I acquired (3) 1/4 Eagles before they got too dear, then a 1/4 Maple, and then I saw the 1/4 Phil at a nice price, even with Gold at 1858. My 2021 goal is at least (1) 1/4 ozt Gold coin every 3-4 weeks, with intermittent Silver and numismatic purchases as opportunities arise. If I can fill a tube with 22 mm coins by 2022 I'll be a happy little camper. I'm also looking at NZ and Aussie coins for 2021, as long as they're the same size. There's something in this for the collector and the stacker in me. Win-win. I think Phil is next and thanks for the peek at it.
Yeah, I like that there are so many 22mm options given how popular the 1:4oz Eagles have gotten. Good luck!
I think a better design for the Austrian coin would be their coat of arms. That would make a nice design. Or something Alps related. I think Austria, I think Kitzbuhel skiing.
I think the design is very unique, I just don't like the fonts. Other than that it's a great coin, beautiful coin. All gold coins are beautiful
@@BrotherChad lol!
@@hugostiglitz4215 that is so true... All gold coins have their beauty. I really love the kangaroos, the half oz and oz denominations are stunning. The shine of the roo..
Since I've been watching your videos I have purchased three and a half ounces of fractional gold and one ounce, the Britannia. Your broadcast is casting a broad spell on myself and others I would imagine. It's a good thing because gold is up!
That's great! ✊
@@2is1goldYes in one of your videos you said you sold off most of your silver to buy gold and I have quite a stack of silver. I have sold off about 10% when silver was at about 28 to 29 so I actually profited. I think silver is a dud, it hasn't reached It's all time high of just shy of 50. It's like watching paint dry, silver is great to have for possible future barter and trade, I will always keep a good amount of silver in my stack, but now I'm focusing on gold. My goal by the end of the year is to purchase another 4 oz of gold, mainly fractional, and another 1 oz coin, the maple. You should do a video about how people can make sure their gold is real by using a sigma if you have one, also the best places to buy gold. May I ask where you buy your gold? I buy from Liberty coin, they are fantastic and I have verified every piece and not one counterfeit, I think they are better than the bigger houses like JM and Apmex. Keep up the good work! One more question, what are your thoughts on other pieces like the Mexican Libertad and sovereigns? Thanks much!
Very informative video. Thank you very much for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
The Austrian Philharmonic is hard to beat. One of the lowest premiums for the class they're in. It's .9999 24k largest 1oz coin in the world. Gold is gold
Fast forward to October 2022 and the 1oz philharmonic is the cheapest/best looking on the market right now. I’m not going to spend $175+ on premiums when most shops will barely give me spot for them. Transitioning to the Philharmonic!
I have never purchased an AGE or ASE, i have been able to buy poured gold directly from a mint for a lower premium than an AGE. That is a total no brainer to me. 1 oz is 1 oz to me
Once again thank you for awesome information.
Thanks again for watching!
The premiums today are insane. These other options look good. Thanks.
Sometimes it's a premium thing. I would pick up maples or Krugs over eagles, simply because it was the same weight at a lower cost.
Yeah, I like Maples and Krugs too, but the 1099-B requirements make me a little careful about both of them. Thanks!
I just purchased 14 quarter ounce gold maples. I want to accumulate 20. I just love the pure gold.
Nice!
Really interesting! I subscribed!
Thanks!
to me, a 22k coin is not relevant because we have capsules, we have flips, and we have other ways to protect pure gold coins. I would not think about paying 20, 30, $50 more because it has an eagle stamped on it. If supply gets "Jim Rickards tight", I'll get a good chuckle if someone tries to nickle and dime me suggesting a maple, krug, or phil will be less sought after in a currency crash or economic crisis. I think the Austrian coins are pretty cool looking, bought one today! Must agree with you....they are one of the cheapest coins around.
Great video again 👍
Thanks!
What do you think about half oz gold Eagles ? My local coin shop got a bunch and they're proof ones but willing to sell it for the same price as just regular ones . Good content as always sir
Great coins. I've been seeing proof 1/2 oz AGEs lately too. I don't buy them only because I'm more interested in scheduled ~$500 purchases and then specifically timed larger purchases. They're especially nice if your state taxes purchases below $1,000.
Yes one of the most beautiful. I'd only rate proof libertads higher
I bought five of the 1/24 oz. Spent nearly $580 and they are the size of my finger nail. They are incredibly detailed, but I don't view them as gold investments but rather small bartering tokens for large gains if the grid goes bye bye.
If the grid goes bye bye, I will trade some of my one ouncers to your 1/24, so make sure to get as many as possible 😜
Great Video! Got the 1/10th Phil. for just about melt because rim damaged. It’s still .9999 fine Gold to me!
You can fix that rim damage in your garage. Just grab a pliers and a blow torch. 😂😂
@@2is1gold Good Tip. It’s worth a shot!
@@numistacking3763 nooooooo! 🤣
I would buy 1oz bars new in assay before a phil. Always on sale somewhere lots to choose from and the spreads will be the smallest.
Wherever you go in the U.S., especially when spot prices are elevated, new buyers entering the metals market are always asking (at the LCS’s) for ASE’s, and AGE’s. The most bought, sought, and sold coins in the U.S. To stay completely liquid, so you can sell at a moments notice, then these are the two coins you must stack.
Agreed. The AGE is the coin I own the most of by a long stretch. ASEs are the only silver I own at the moment. I'll happily take Maples, Phils and Krugs, though, if I can't find AGEs or AGBs at the moment since they'll only occupy 5% of my stack. Thanks for the comment!
cheap(er) and .9999. What is there not to love :) Much Love from Vienna, Austria!
Hello! (And, yes, great coin.)
I had fun googling Krampus LOL. Philharmonics are so attractive and cheap here in Europe, I like music but the design is not so cool. Anyways I'm gonna switch from stacking ounces of Maples to ounces of Philharmonics, because they're a few 5 euros cheaper and would be easier to sell to Americans (little chance, but anyways) because they're not in the IRS blacklist you just mentioned. As for silver, Philharmonics are half of the stack, the other half are Maples for now.
The 1099-b form is a pain. Maples are still more popular here, though. Either is a good option. Cheers!
good video, aside from silver Philharmonics, I haven't acquired the gold ones... I always assumed that those would be harder to sell to LCS. I will take another look though, thanks
Anything is 'harder' to sell at a US LCS than an Eagle or Buffalo, but the Philharmonic is similar to the Krugerrand - very well-known.
Omg I’m so with you on this! I got ten capsules for eagles and if I can fit a Phil in a eagle
Capsule then I’m down!
They definitely fit. 😁
@@2is1gold yep I paused the video and looked and the queens beast would fit too but you probably said that
@@LucyStacks yep. The Lunars fit too!
@@2is1gold haaa! I was gonna say that too but the lunars usually come in their own cap
LOL... "musical instruments are nice too" :-) I do like how large the 1oz Phils are. Feels like I'm getting more gold even though I'm not.
I would like a Krampus coin also. :-)
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Have you looked at pesos? The premiums are usually lower.
Yep. Same with Sovereigns and LMUs and Ducats. Those are always options, but I prefer modern bullion given the choice.
LOVE THE GOLD PESOS
I'm sorry, I like my gold, without copper in it.
OK, you can choice a 24 carrots philarmonic !
22mm bothers me as well, plays in my head, guess that's why I don't have too many of them, it's just all about preference. THE SARGE
Three months ago I decided to buy a 1/10th gold coin a month with some silver. First two months I gold Eagles but just ordered my third coin. I went with the Philharmonic just to switch it up. The price was good and I want to be able to look at the difference in the color of the gold in person.
I’m a big believer in the philharmonics! They receive the same tax treatment as eagles for much cheaper AND they are a nice looking coin
I’m a long time lurker, first time buyer, but I’m in. Just picked up my second!
What about liquidity?
@@_Hound_ they are just as easy to liquidate as an eagle or maple. No issues with liquidity
I totally understand the size difference thing. Just received my first quarter oz gold Canadian ML. It's 20mm size compared to the AGE and Phil 22mm. No air-tite direct fit made that size, so had to order one 21mm on ebay. ugh btw/ My new 1/4 ML looks small beside the 1/4 AGE. Next up will be a 22mm Brit or Phil.
Still picking these up? Premiums haven't changed much. I picked up a 1/10 Phil recently and want a 1/4 AGE but the price difference is significant with these
Yea I bought one ... I like the 999.9 purity. Why not.. 👍
Am a local dealer for Gold dust from Sierra Leone I can supply if want to buy,feel free to contact
I have a one-ounce Phil. The reeded edge is mesmerizing. But I don't want too many of them, because U.S. dealers won't pay you spot for them.
Some will, gold is gold
@@hugostiglitz4215 Not in my area, sadly.
Stupid dealers. Hold the gold
Krampus vs Mozart! Most definitely. 👍😆
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Out here the Britannia is cheaper and more readily available than the Philharmonic, has anti counterfeit feature like the maple leaf and still 24k rather than that junk gold eagle. Being Canadian I might me biased, but I still think the maple leaf is king.
Maple Leaf is fantastic. The new Britannia wasn’t available at the time of this video. That’s the route I would have gone. Cheers!
What’s your thoughts on buying these Phil’s but living in the USA, meaning is it harder to maybe sell them at your lcs (over the AGE?)
Local coin shops here will always prefer the Eagles (and give a small amount of premium), but philharmonics are about the same as Maples and Krugs here. An LCS will always take them.
I would only trade a few 1/4oz gold for a buffalo. But I really like my 1/4oz gold coins though. It's just fun to have alot of those
For years, my dealer gave me an even trade value, and premiums on the buying side weren't crazy. Basically, I could take in 3, 1/4oz AGEs and pay what I'd pay for the remainder to get a 1oz Eagle or Buffalo, my choice. Everyone was happy. This year that only made sense the first quarter. I was so used to doing it, that I didn't realize how bad of a deal that had become until recently. All my LCS options have increased their premiums significantly.
If you are interested (I am not) in 1/10 fractionals CMI currently has a 30 pack for 8.5% over. It is on their gold specials page. I'm maxed out on AU, or I would be tempted by the rest of the stuff on that page.
Thanks!
I love philharmonics
Very nice coins!
tbh, price is the only thing that excites me about the Philharmonic.
Yeah, that's about where I'm at too.
I picked up a cheap 1/10oz Philharmonic gold about a month ago. Again being a collector it will be part of a 1/10oz type set.
I also pick up 1/10 oz & 1/4 oz platinum especially while prices are far cheaper than gold.
Have you looked into adding platinum to your stack?
I got a 1/4 AGE for $225 this past Sunday at my local coin show . Happens once a month . I try every month .
I like 1/10 gold eagle maples and krugs are super expensive. The premiums are outrageous. Phil harmonics are still reasonable
Premiums have gone wild lately!
Right now for $491 you can get a Australian quarter ounce 2019 lunar pig
I saw that. And I hate to admit it, but I thought to myself, do I want a pig on a coin? 😂
I picked up one of those about a month ago for $499. I liked it so I’m probably going to get another one for a little less.
They are at SD bullion
@@2is1gold I thought that was Donald Trump, and not a pig .
What is the resell value and process on the Philharmonics and Maples compare to the Eagles and Buffalos? Is it as simple, over or under spot? Thx
They're similar in the US. Current conditions are atypical, but usually I'll get back 1-2% in premium over spot on an Eagle or Buffalo if I sell them locally. I'll get exactly spot for a Maple or Philharmonic if they're in good shape.
very cool brother I like that phill the design ehh dont care for it more for the price
These are a value buy to me, like a 24k Krugerrand.
@@2is1gold cant beat it !
Highly doubtful that they are excluded from filing requirements. Why would they be just because they weren't on a list? That is not a good way to think about it from a legalistic point of view. Focus on Positive exclusions instead of negative exclusions to be safe.
They're excluded from the 1099-B form. That's very important to some people. They're no different in terms of actual capital gains laws, though. Thanks!
Have you ever tried to sell a philharmonic?
I'm wondering if they will get the stink eye at the lcs, in the usa.
Yeah, not much different than a Krugerrand at my local coin shops. They're very well known. Cheers!
Dealers in the U.S. aren't crazy about them. I mean, they'll buy it from you, but some want to pay you 3% under spot.
The OCD struggle is real. 🙂
Time to buy
Maybe. Today's dip is nice.
What are your thoughts on the US Mint $5 Commemerative gold coins? 0.900 fine, total of 0.24187 ozt gold.They can usually be bought for VERY low premiums.
I like them, but I don’t have many. Given a choice, I prefer the 24k commemoratives.
i agree I dont like the diameter difference on the maple
I think Philharmonics are a value purchase, but they are a little boring. As you know, my favorite gold coin is the Britannia. The 2021 Britannia looks pretty cool with the security features. I'm going to buy one right now on Ebay.
I agree - they are a little boring. Great price, though!
@@2is1gold Great price. I have several. The first thing I noticed when I bought my first one was the diameter and thickness.
@@pudendajohnson1932 HI PUD. GIRLS LIKE GIRTH. LENGTH COUNTS ALSO. *TYU*
Brittanias are underrated for sure, one of my favorites under the libertad, I like them better than the leafs.lots of security features too.
ebay has had ton of eagles for a while it was the only 1/10th and 1/4 oz around in the venue. I stopped buying them as I was thinking don't get stuck with one coin, no I have all plus some obscure coins
I can find them on a few community sites too. I used to be able to find them locally and pay cash, though. I miss that.
Are there any mints that sell to the public online regardless of citizenship? It'd be a game changer to be able to order direct from a mint.
I don't know of any way to get bullion direct from a Mint being here in the US, unfortunately.
Maybe china? They seem loose with their regulations. Or India. 🤔
Premiums are outrageous lately.
Absolutely. I don't remember anything like this happening before. Not even in the 2011 run up.
Lately? Try all freaking year
Merci!!
De rien!
HI 2. I'D RATHER HAVE A BUFFALO. HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT THE US 1/2 OZ GOLD WWII 75TH ANNIV COIN COMING OUT ON 11/9? IT WON'T BE CHEAP, BUT IT WILL BE A BEAUTY IN HIGH RELIEF. *TYU*
I sure have. It looks great! My state charges 5% sales tax on “collector” coins, so it will be even more expensive for me!
@@2is1gold HI 2. MY STATE HAS GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, NOT SALES TAX. GROSS RECEIPTS TAX IS ON THE SELLER. THERE IS NO PASSING THAT TAX ON BY THE MINT, SO IT'S TAX-FREE. YOU SAY WILL BE, SO I GUESS YOU WILL GET ON TOO? *TYU*
Well, everyone would like to get gold for close to spot but me personal I don’t mind paying a little bit of a premium for an American gold eagle but, on the smaller fractional coins that’s hard to do. Try to save up for a full oz but that can be hard to do because you will probably have to wait a couple months. If you’re like me I can’t stop going to the coin shop so... I buy fractional. I don’t really do it for making a profit just to have them just in case and as a savings account.
I don't mind a little premium either. It's gone well past reasonable levels, though, at this point so I'm looking at options. A Philharmonic is extremely well known, but it's priced like far more obscure coins. I'm like you on not betting on huge profits with gold. It's mainly there for security. Cheers!
Yes the premiums are really crazy! Great idea with the Philharmonics I think I might get one.
IMHO beside the philharmonics is on the boring side (even krugerrands it's not boring compared) there's one thing wrong with the philharmonics - the full ounce is too large a diameter. Krugerrands, eagles, even maples are IMHO better with their smaller diameter. Easier to store in same system as your smaller coins.
Yeah, that bugs me too.
The maple and the Phili both have a rich yellowish color compared to the Eagles .
Nice coins, they look great all different varieties together!
Nice dip today in spot prices. Might be able scratch together a few FRNs and make a run to the LCS
Good luck!
My obsessiveness and compulsiveness go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Best friends!
Carrots and peas ...
Different Sizes ... nogo ..i feel it :D
OCD!
Philharmonics are the best looking bullion ever made. The only two downsides in the american eagle are the Lady Liberty, because only the eagle is worth looking at and the fact that it's 22k. I like Buffalos because indians are better than lady liberty, but in general I don't like people's face in coins.
Hi lock on Croatian centar zlata on a American centar of gold and it has 4dukat 15g and 40mm that's big and if you don't have it it's great price I'm from Europe and have gold panda and philharmonic it's all 0.75oz but I'm 13 so it's OK I wish to the 30 to have 10000€ in gold
show 1 oz then ya will see how beautifull it is cuz its 37 mm, much wider than American coins.
Why would you think coins need to be standardized to US eagle sizes? Seems silly. Also, eagles look cheap next to a maple, buffalo and a philharmonic. I have never and will never pay extra for a coin I consider sub-standard. To me, eagles and kruggerands should be cheaper than buffalo's, maples and philharmonics.
Gold is gold....if or when i sell mine it will mean the dollar is worthless
The US mint: pay us more for our boring designs we never update. 🤡
I just can't get into the design.
That’s because it’s boring! 😂
At SD bullion
I just bought a goose. 2021.
Nice!
Plase let me know which building is in this coin ? I mean in the wiener philharmonic coin
I do see the fractional philharmonic marginally cheaper here in the UK then then other BU coins but imo the design is fugly
Argggggggggg this OCD is making me considering to buy more gold , God damn you , what the hell am I doing watching this vid ??. I just dont want to spend my welfare check on gold coins anymore .
Don't do it!
They are cheaper, but probably my least favorite.
Having more views from people who are NOT SUBS at least tells you your videos are being recommended...so thats good.
If only people who are subbed watch, you can't grow.
They're low on my list until prices get out of control! (On the subs, I'm not crying about it, but I'm surprised by the low number of subbed views. 😁)
My subscriber views are 10-17% ... its better when you are presented to wider potential audience.
@@SilverHeist I have one video that has like 2% subbed viewership. I feel so used! 😂
the britania is cheaper
I’d pick up a Britannia over a Phil today. When this video was filmed, they weren’t commonly available locally. The 2021 Brit changed things. Cheers!
Always up for more gold, and LESS government involvement..lol
The musical instrument theme does not work for me.
I would have thought a sophisticated guy like you would be into classical music, Heist. Me, I was hoping for Mozart riding a winged stag, fighting a two-headed Krampus dragon.
You keep switching it up and throwing us for a loop. I just don’t like the look. I understand your reasoning, but I don’t like them.
I've only found 2 1/4oz AGEs at a LCS since April. I had to widen my criteria! 😁
I have picked up a couple peer to peer for good prices. I also got a lunar 1/4 for a decent price too. I don’t have a great option close to me for LCS. You got to do what you got to do. I have looked at the gold maples. I actually traded my silver maples for gold because I’m not a huge fan of them, but the gold maples look better to me. Keep the videos coming. They make me thinking about my strategy and keep me from being set in my ways. Good luck in your hunting.
@@elparnell thank you, sir!
So with the war in Armenia heating up, pretty glad I have some Noah's Ark coins stashed away...
Might become scarce or even go into the scrap heap of history?
That does seem like a cool coin. Far more profound subject matter than most.
@@2is1gold
It's not as ugly as this one, plus with historical events of uncertainty happening, they may dry up.
@swansea007791
I've been to the Armenian Holocaust Monument in Montebello, California and have several close friends from that area code.
Its a sad situation in Armenia, but i think that war has no influence bout the minting of the noahs arch coins.
They are minted in Leipzig Germany, the LEV mintage.
But really nice coins