Octopath Traveler - Easy Allies Review
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Octopath Traveler's distinct style is only matched by its excellent combat.
Written by Ben Moore
Video Edited by Brandon Jones
Available on Switch
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8.0 for 8 min Octopath Review video? i see what you did there. :P
for all 8 Allies *Ben becomes anime*
and 8 for the 8 travelers
Should be 8.2
Imagine a Xenogears remaster in this style. I would buy that in a heartbeat.
Thank you guys for not giving up on this review. I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to always get a review out to us even though I bought this day one anyway lol. Great review Ben and very much agree with the 8 you gave it! Love and Respect allies!
Man i could listen to you read the phone book.
Loll
+1
Agreed
8 is perfect. Fun game, but has some problems.
Best Reviewer/Narrator for reviews.
I always ask myself why I was subscribed to this channel. And the I hear this guy and remember! 😄
Damn that soundtrack is excellent!!
Great review. Thanks! I love this game. One of my favorite aspects of the job system is that any SUPPORT skill learned remains with your character, even when you change out that job. That allows you to do something like, make Olberic a merchant for a few moments, unlock SP saver, and switch it out to make up for his low magic points. Just one of so many examples.
When I first initially saw the trailers to this game, I was like *_take my money already_*
Thinking like that has bit me on the ass more than I'd like.
i think that in the end I prioritize story and characters over the combat system to carry me through an rpg. of course there are exceptions either way, but I think that if the narrative just isn't there then I'll eventually lose interest. seems to apply only to turn based rpgs though, since I'm down to play through most real time combat systems or action rpgs that require skill and and have some additional depth. I think that in general i've lost patience with turn based rpgs, or maybe it's always been that way since I've used the fast forward button on snes emulators for as long as I can remember. i hope that as things move forward, increasing battle speed, skipping animations, and fast forward buttons become the norm. glad fire emblem games have had that for quite some time
the narrative weaknesses of this one sound like a bit of a turnoff unfortunately, although Primrose's intro was pretty compelling. still bought the game but might give it some time before I get around to it. hope for octopath 2 with a more cohesive narrative now that they've done a lot of the heavy lifting
VGJunky with respect, you’ve probably just always been that way. You’re right to say that. The idea that styles of games “evolve” is garbage. Games simply change to appeal more to different types of gamers, often playing the odds. Final Fantasy picked up more fans as it became more broad, requiring less and less from the player base. Less reading, less math, less strategy, less patience, less imagination, etc. that doesn’t make it “better”, it just makes it less offensive. More “accessible”.
Kept you waiting, huh?
Having just completed the game today, I can say that I wish there was more. It's great when an RPG leaves you wanting more, especially after my 100 or so hours spent. But the game's story feels....well, it feels like it's missing that 3rd act. Considering how traditional it is in its JRPG tropes, I'm surprised there wasn't some big twist at the end. The game just kind of ends. Sure, there's a special dungeon but I had no idea it was even there until I looked it up, only available after the game is done and when certain side quests are complete.
felman87 Either way, the Gate of Finis IS the big twist/3rd act. The Chapter 4s give you a pretty good and obvious idea of something later on and especially when returning to H'aanit's final dungeon the game gives you a heavy push in the right direction as to what sidequests you might to do.
That music. Oh my.
Its hard to purchase this game knowing the story isn't firing on all cylinders.
I'm so hungry for a good story, I really wish this had knocked it out the park.
I don't care about intertwining stories but the fact that they followed a repeating pattern and none of the stories were that good, this hurts the most to hear. :'(
I'm still going to buy it... eventually but for now I have more tempting gems in my backlog I'm working through. :)
Great review, E.A.!
Honestly the shallow-ish stories didn't bother as much because it's amazing battle mechanics come first, story second. If this were a movie or book, I'd agree with the review more...but as it is, this game is a 9 to 9.4 to me. Good review Easy Allies, thanks!
Autism Family this game was disappointing I would of much rather had a bravely default console game
I love the stories! Sure they are a bit shallow, but they're charming and different from what you usually getting in games. Together with a masterpiece soundtrack this is easily like a 9.3 for me. Have a hard time seeing I will play something better this year. Best game on switch together with zelda for me. And hey I usually don't like jrpgs, mainly because of their story, grind and length.
To me, Stories > Gameplay when it comes to JRPGs. So I'll probably be waiting for a price drop before I pick this one up.
When there's hours and hours of cutscenes, the story absolutely matters.
What jrpg in the last 10 years had a good story?
The game has some issues, yeah. The combat is really fun though, and if there's one thing that the game truly excels at it's the music. One. Of. The. Best. Soundtracks. Ever.
And I agree with the score mostly. I'd personally be a bit higher, but theres plenty of things that keep this game from being "perfect." The main issue for me was the lack of meaningful interactions between characters; just seemed odd to spend dozens of hours with people who barely ever talked.
Overall though...combat...music...just stellar. So glad this game exists.
The game wouldn't be half as charming if it wasn't presented this way.
As would 99% of games...........
People saying this game lacks identity, personality or charm are seriously weirding me out. But well not my loss. In that regard the game reminds of the DQ series, with its simplistic approach to story telling and just being straightforward. I loved the structure of the game and the only thing they have to change is having slightly more natural character interactions. No grinding (for the regular chapters with each character, maybe you have to grind for some postgame stuff ... which I would hardly hold against the game), no gold farming for gear ... game gives you options to avoid everything to a good extend. So yeah more of this SE, please.
Personally I would give it a 9/10 so far, still have postgame stuff to do though.
Nice usage of the music for this review.
Yo Ben, your writing seems to get better and better with every review. You nailed this one. Major Kudos!
I found myself just staring at how amazing the enemy and boss sprites were any moment they were on screen
While i appreciate its offerings but what's an RPG without a good story?
I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to really feel like I'm missing out by not having a Switch. Solid review as per the usual!
I'm surprised you didn't notice how the enemies have a different style than the main characters pixelated art. Monsters look more detailed. inconsistent just like windows design. 🤭
Guys, anyone who loved this game's combat system, should try Radiant Historia as well as Romancing SaGa 2.
Your Excellency!
Well videogamedunkey says this game sucks. He's obviously an expert and game design scholar, so an 8.0?? Get real!! /sarcasm
what a disappointing game. bored after 3 hours (finished 3 stories), battle system was also not that amazing (I got stuck in dungeon where none of my characters could break the enemy), what a grind...
The only thing I disagree with is the depth of field complaint. Its purposeful, to make the world look "small". Macro photography and cinematography, as well as product photography utilize macro and tilt-shift lenses to make items looks smaller or bigger, and the depth of field contributes to that look. Ill agree that it can be a little distracting, especally if you dont know why it was designed that way, but I love it.
Good review, IGN should totally steal it and plagiarize this. I'll let them know, maybe they will come here and take it and pretend they wrote it, it's really a good review.
I always found people saying "This is the successor to FF6" to be very odd, as it's structured much more like a SaGa game. Still, this was a great review from Ben and an 8 I feel is pretty much the perfect score for it.
Andrew Kos who says that? Such an odd thing to say, the two games are entirely different and unlike this game FFVI party members interact throughout
because they don't know any game other than Final Fantasy, which btw has fallen grace for me these past years
I was looking forward to this game forever but sadly it lost my attention about 25 hours in. I was supremely bummed out.
seeing the score for this and beating ni no kuni 2 I can definitely say you rated NNK2 WAY too high. ill be interested in the atrocity of rating dq 11 lower than nnk2 if that happens.
I haven't gotten too far, but I'm liking this game quite a bit. I'd rank it at a 7.5 right now. I'm also very happy it's doing this well. The success will hopefully open the door to a sequel that fixes the short comings of this one.
Really nice and fair review. Ben, your explanation of the BP system was the most economical use of words I've ever seen in a review
One of those jRPG I'll get half off on sale a few months from now. Just wait for DQXI
i would play this but my common problem with the Switch rears its head again, the UI is too small again, even on the TV with this one :(
God damn...
Jones’s voice is the official voice of video game trailers.
Woo doggie.
settle down
I love Nintendo but not giving the Allies a review copy is lame. They should get the first damn copy. Thanks for powering through Ben
Sorry that is what I meant. Why they would wait for launch for a 40-100 hour game is crazy
After a RUclipsr leaked a game online last year Nintendo America have been giving less games out to youtubers before launch.
Thanks Huber and his regretable BotW review.
Huh? Huber did not review BOTW
Ebefren Revo what are you even talking about
9.0 for me... just so fun. I find myself craving it
Fair score. The terrible stories and repetitive dungeons (there isn't even one interesting dungeon in this game) brings it down.
I dont mind the Stories intersecting in Terms of content, for instance, if the Villian for one of the travelers story had been a hero or mentor of anothers, I think that may have been cool but I actually prefer that the characters themselves remain separate... The stories bleeding into each other would have felt less like 8 seperate paths to me and more like 1 path traveled by 8 different characters.
Without spoiling too much, all eight characters have at least a minor part of their storyline that intersects with another character. The devs could have gone a little further with it without messing up the "eight separate stories" conceit, but by the time you finish all chapter 4's the characters end up linked in a manner more along the lines of "these people all live in the same world" and less "these people are all anime destined heroes of justice". Even the post-game final boss gets introduced in a refreshing way - yeah he's a world ending threat etc etc but you're mostly just searching for a side quest kid you've been helping all game and hey if your party needs to beat up some big ugly monster to rescue their pal that's all the motivation they've needed all game. (that said, the final dungeon text dumps so much lore it felt like the second disc of Xenogears - even if it does connect the stories).
Like the words of the review but don’t agree with the number. A 9 for me
The story here seems extremely split. Some love it, and some hate it. I wish they intertwined more, but I just have some sort of joy seeing these characters interact and move through their respective themes, tones, settings, and environment, and how they interact. They aren’t particularly deep, but the way they clash so well with one another can 9 Times out of ten create a funny, heart wrenching, heartwarming, or dramatic scene, and shift those at the drop of a dime, and it’ll work well. But yes, the combat is the most outstanding thing here, and the story catalyzes it well. Or maybe I’m just biased because I really love this kind of game.
I was disappointed in the lack of interactions. Sure you have the small chats after a cutscene during a chapter but there's no combat banter and every chapter treats the party as if it doesn't exist. Every chapter felt isolated It didn't really feel like you were a group of friends or allies going on a journey.
yup, and that alone is a huge flaw for me, especially in a story/character focused game. 7/10 at best for me.
I'm halfway through it now. This is the only "pure" turn based RPG (No quick time events, etc.) outside of Pokemon that I have been able to get through. Final Fantasy games are so boring to me with the easy "Spam A" tactics and the repetitive grinding. This combat makes you think the whole time, the stories are all really interesting, and, while it's not easy, if you do everything, there's no grinding. I am using a guide for sidequests and a checklist for side dungeons though, which helps a lot.
I have been playing around in UE4 to make a similar effect and people would say I ripped this off now :P
I wish I could be a patreon, but, alas... life costs + student loan debt :( isn't America great....
Easy Allies is my new reference for game reviews
I really enjoyed this game. I think 8 is a reasonable score. The combats gameplay loop is really great and customizing party with different classes brings out creativity.( Runelord Tressa is the best, you can cheese even the final secret boss with transfer rune + sidestep). Being able to equip support skills even if you are not in that class brings out diversity in builds.
However, I feel like there is very little post game content which could have made this game truly amazing. After the final boss, you are really just playing to get huge damage numbers and capturing level 10 beast with Haa'nit
Bosses are definitely a weak link in this game. The repetitive nature of the each characters story means you run into a lot of them. Because of that boss fights devolve into finding a hitch or rhythm to them and slowly whittling away at their huge health bars. It’s not very engaging and can be frustrating if you miss a beat, die, and have to spend another 2 hours fighting the boss over again.
With its sales it's safe to bet a more serious job on story and direction will be in for the sequel or just whatever follows in the same formula, I look forward to that day. Hopefully they increase the font size just a tad too.
My main problem with the game so far is that the "unique" actions aren't unique. I can either guide or allure, challenge or provoke, scrutinize or ask, and steal or collect. Because of this split it can become very easy to select who to switch out, with the only one I ever worried about was Therion/Tressa. With Tressa being my main protagonist, that became an easy choice.
Each character gets a powerful story and experience a subtle issue in life we can all relate to. The way they are connected is strong enough to make the game enjoyable. The plot is thickened just like Avengers - A cast of heroes from completely different life/decisions/path/etc
Just to give an example :)
Never had, or been interested in owning a Switch, but this looks like the one game on the platform I'd actually like to play. Cheers for this review, you've given me something to think abut here.
Good writers need to come back to S-E, at least do some contract hiring like bringing back Yasumi Matsuno for a new RPG or Masato Kato.
Bet: How many comments will include their own, personal numerical score? Closest guess wins a bu-T boi
0:00 That very first note and the pause afterwards had me so confused, thought for sure it was the orchestral arrangement of GSC Route 3 they use in the intros to a lot of the Pokemon movies.
Edit - This one: ruclips.net/video/SzvNnL3PGXY/видео.html
I dislike this game's visuals. Appealing? Yes. Immersive? Hell no. It's impossible to feel immersed in this game's world unlike the Square games of yore, since the storybook/diorama style is a constant detriment to your suspension of disbelief.
Kinda cool and weird to have the narrator from Final Fantasy retrospective from old Game Trailers series. Love it
I don't really mind that the game's stories are very cliche'd/on the nose. IMO that's the point, and that's the charm of it. Kind of like Dragon Quest 11, I like to be able to sit down for an hour or two and just bathe in these overly simple, formulaic plots. It doesn't hurt that they're all done so incredibly well, too.
Speaking of Dragon Quest, the third game is getting a remake using the Octopath graphics engine!
@@hankforeman91 Yeah I just saw that, I'm looking forward to it!
Guys, have you discussed making an retro games review series? It would be amazing!
Not watching the review until I complete the game, but...
I'm 86 hours in, have 10 chapters left, and then plan to dive into the post game wrap-up. I get that the stories may be "shallow," but I think that's ultimately to its benefit. As someone who prioritizes story over all else, I am tired of convoluted, "adult" stories that are really more pretentious than anything else.
Presentation is everything, and this game's world/characters have enthralled me beyond anything in recent memory - for all the lack of flash and style. And objectively, when pitted against classics like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VI, the stories are at least on par in terms of "shallowness." It's magical, and whimsical, and poignant at the same time - not for being some mastercraft of modern day prophetic warning of social controversy, but for being a beautiful, simple adventure.
I can't fault the story for anything. I think it's a breath of fresh air to not have to learn Latin, or entire in-game lexicons in order to unravel the [ultimately superficial, indulgent] plot.
9/10 for me.
If I have to objective, I think the weak points of the game are 1) a bit of repetition in the chapter flow, 2) the AMAZING soundtrack plops the same tracks atop emotional scenes a bit too much, 3) I think Therion is a weak character, and 4) I wish quests would require a bit more complexity (going between towns, arena more fully fleshed out, Cyrus' investigatiosn more fleshed out, etc.).
In my opinion, if this game featured a more expansive story after recruiting everyone (maybe part 2 will be just that - a cohesive adventure using these established characters), I honestly think it could be an objectively equal game to something like FFVI.
Man!! If i had time to play this I would... love the feel of the rpg classics like FFXI...Maybe someday Ill get back in this genre again...
lol I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that I watch you guys so much I can guess your score like a minute before u give it lol. Nice video as usual.
Story is paramount in this kind of games, I guess I’ll pass.
Is this actually Ben Moore? If so he is heavily putting on that voice, he sounds nothing like this.
It's written by Ben Moore. It's narrated by Brandon Jones. -Bloodworth
@@EasyAllies I thought so, it was spinning me out picturing that voice coming out of little ben, lol.
tis game looks beautiful
you are the GT reviewer, nice review
Yeah, his name is Brandon Jones, he does all the reviews by himself.
reviews are done by various members of easy allies. brandon does the narration.
Nope, everybody knows Brandon does it all by himself.
Gehir he sure does, I don’t know how he finds the time to review all these games. It’s amazing!
Guys, I'll be clear, you keep ruining the joke. It's a bit.
They use a filming technique called Tilt Shift. That's why it's out of focus on the edges
Man I love this damn game so much. I think the musical score isn't given enough credit in this review.
Great review, Final Score could be a bit higher... Thx...
that spoiler mode plug made me so happy. you guys are pretty bad at plugging your patreon and this one was one of the best plugs i've seen yet. hope you do spoiler modes for all games and plug them at the end of reviews like this in the future!
We need more fresh takes on the classic turn-based rpg system like this. Hopefully we won't have to wait years for another.
Started it and I have it on hold for a little bit. Wanted to have another go at Twilight Princess for some reason.
I just bought the game, its amazing for me so far. Thank you for your review Ben. Good Work!!.
It’s my game of the year hands down so far
Jaymin's Station Smash Ultimate will have a word with you come December 7th.
Agreed. It's between this and A Way Out, for me. This game has so much freakin' content, and I love the characters.
It feels like a less-than-sum-of-parts mesh of Final Fantasy Tactics, FFVI and Bravely Default. I love it to bits.
MY BLADE IS UNBENDING!
lifetime movies 2019
as a person who started and stopped playing rpgs during the 16 bit era i love the art style, and the lighting effects look fantastic
Having read through the comments, I wonder if great rpg stories are getting harder for SquareEnix especially (but not only) to achieve.
FF15 was not celebrated in mass for its great story. The last rpg I can think of is Mass Effect 2 (or maybe even 3, if ignoring the final ~20mins) where the story was generally well received.
jlindsa to be fair FFXV's story wasn't really that great, what's good about FFXV is the character interactions
That theme song. It says "Get ready for an adventure"!
Couldn't get into it, i've tried. Just couldn't.
No mention whatsoever of the soundtrack?
If anyone has a game like this to recommend on PS4, Xbox, or PC shoot.
Geralt of Rivia just look at other Squaresoft/Enix/Squareenix games, you can find a bunch of classics on PC. If you want job systems again you play FFV or FFXII on PS4
"8/10 too many characters" -IGN
Yeaaaaa was waiting for this. Already boought but didnt start to play yet!
avicii wake me up
game looks awesome! I'm glad turn-based RPG's are still making a presence!
Your Voice sounds familiar. Do you use to do reviews on the old (defunct) "Game Trailers" site ?
Yes, we're all from GameTrailers. We started Easy Allies shortly after GT was shut down. Welcome back! -Bloodworth
Much better than dunkeys "review"
so many H'aanit starters. Anyone Primrose starter here?
8.0....I see what you did there! 😎
Why are there russian captions? Jw
LOL the best octopath review so far... by far
for me around 9.3 when more and more i understand how this game work it more enjoyable for me
i doing post game right now it not dissapoint me what the game give it to me
for my point this game is not hero save the world but "everyone build the world" every path of character in this game is build the world not just 8 but every story character in this game is important and beautiful to make the world interesting
I have been waiting for this review
4:27 Eyy its a Mario and Luigi!
It's a little late but I'm fine with it. Any reason why? :o
Oh, alright. That sucks though that you guys didn't get an early copy. You guys are my number #1 go to for reviews haha
Unlike some other reviewers, they actually beat the game before posting a review. Not talking about Dunkey (although it's dumb that he "reviewed" the extended demo), but literally all of the mainstream gaming media missed the fact that there's an actual final dungeon and somehow beat everything else in under 30 hours (Kotaku being the worst offender, as usual).
Great review. 60 hours in and I would say a 9 for me which is unexpected. The combat is too good. I like that there are 8 individual stories. I play so many games and when someone tries something different it usually is better at keeping my interest.
Wild Link for me around 9.3 when more and more i understand how this game work it more enjoyable for me
i doing post game right now it not dissapoint me what the game give it to me
for my point this game is not hero save the world but "everyone build the world" every path of character in this game is build the world not just 8 but every story character in this game is important and beautiful to make the world interesting
Yeah my opinion may change as I am up to the last chapter 3 story and have finished no chapters 4's as yet. I am curious about the final dungeon but do no need a connection to enjoy the game. I see how some do and that is a legitimate complaint. Just hoping I do not have to grind too much to do the post game