A few interesting points 1. The supply increase is caused by cars coming off lease (2 year leases) 2. I did a bit of analysis comparing the supply of an i8 to a 911 to understand the popularity and would be interesting if you included some for of that. Basically cars sold/cars available used on the market 3. 2019-2020 have some notable advantages - bigger battery - carplay 4. Warranty is 4 years bumper-bumper, 8yrs hybrid components Thanks for your work!
The person who designed this car is amazing and awesome. This person has a very unique design style. For me, since I saw it in 2008, it feels like time has stopped moving, and I always feel that its appearance is still so stunning. 😊
I own a Ferrari 488 Pista, a Portofino, a Porsche 992 and an i8 roadster, but to be honest the i8 is the most exotic and fascinating car to me. It's a piece of BMW history. I'm sure prices will follow th Z8: no one wanted them new, now they are highly desired. 911 are great cars, but it's allways more or less the same - at least the Look.
The Carrera is not a cheap car to fix and maintain. Just check the price of a replacement PDK gearbox or an engine rebuild. They made 100’s of thousands of 911, manufactured and oversupplied to the market during the last 10 tears. Not really a collectible car anymore unless you buy a special limited production model, due to over supply. The i8 is very special to drive and it’s construction. Less than 20.000 made in the complete production run. The last updated generation from 2018 was not made in big numbers… I think the future will prove the i8 was a very special car and become very collectible. Over the years I have owned 2 x i8’s and 5 x 911’s. All fantastic driving machines for their designed purpose. The i8 was way ahead of its time in hybrid tech and design.
The i8, because the battery will be useless and once it’s useless so will a 3 cylinder engine. Other cars with butterfly doors don’t have this narrow design.
@@PSBrathwaite rubbish-talk we say in germany.. if you have no clue dont comment. it will come like with the bmw z8 -google it when you not know what it is.. i buy one in 2001 for71k - and the i8 will mayby not so much rise but even good. and the battery (ist only a relativ small battery not bigger than 4x a pack of bud-light 30cans-box.
@@PSBrathwaite eventually battery tech will improve and 3rd party companies will produce batteries allowing the i8 to probably do over double the electric miles it could originally.
I have had 3 i8s and own 4k mile Roadster. The fast big drop in Gen 2 is due 100% to 30-35% discount offered on ALL 19/20 new cars to shift them, like the Z8 was in 2003. In 2021 Autotrader had 234 coupes and 67 Roadsters - in Feb 23 just 123 coupes and 20 ROADSTERS. when they get to 6 or 7 cars values skyrocket just like my SLS, Z8, CLS, 996.1 gt3 did....get one now while just over half retail as they'll be back at retail in 5-6 years and twice retail in 10-15 years !
This video is interesting and I like the data approach. The video does fail to highlight most BMW I8's were leased vehicles and a 2019-2020 model BMW i8 having been coming off lease at a unique time--during the actual and post pandemic. If you look at the original MSRP price you got hefty discounts by comparison but they were discounted out of the gates. Yet, the pricing ratio is less than say that of a Porsche 911 which would be at or above original msrp. If you want to own an i8 get a 2nd generation roadster that is a CPO with no accidents and low mileage. The supply level increase is due to the year model drop and reactivating a year later with the 2nd gen and off lease. People also saw radical increased values so smart people who owned an i8 were able to profit and dealers as well. Dealers banked on the low predicted i8 residuals which were forecasted years prior. Video would be excellent if accounted for these specifics.
Was just watching this again, it's important to note that the i8 prepandemic just as it was being discontinued got massive discount - iirc I got a 40k CAD discount on a Brand new 2019 coupe just before the pandemic
I bought a 2019 bmw i8 last year (2nd gen) thinking these would appreciate over time. Thank you for your analysis, I love the car and idk if it's an investment worth holding onto. I hope so
As an i8 owner, would be interesting to see price change in the roadster vs coupe. I have the coupe but have interest in the roadster and have been waiting for the sweetspot. They seem to be holding up in value.
@@jasonstewart1227 i just upgraded to a 2019 roadster a month ago. Couldnt agree more. Kinda miss the backseats.. but it otherwise takes the i8 to another level.
The roadster looks even more unique and futuristic. You lose the back seats which is probably not a concern for many people. I’ve rented the coupe a couple times while in Vegas. Once with my wife and two boys so it was PERFECT. And once with just my wife and we even rented an Audi R8 on the same trip so for a day we had BOTH cars and chased each other on the desert roads. The i8 was SO MUCH BETTER than the R8 in every way. More fun. More confident (I did 156mph in it). Better looks. Amazing doors. Much better sound system. Heads up display. Better technology. Excellent comfort/sport mode suspension adjustments and sound adjustments. The i8 is amazing and you are very lucky to have one!!! For comparison I’ve also rented a McLaren MP4-12C, Dodge Vioer, Ferrari GTC4LUSSO (which also fit my boys in the back comfortably), Tesla Model 3 (also fits the boys and is super fast and discreet) and a 911 (which fits the kids only when they were little, now they are probably too big for any ride over 15 minutes in the back of one). Unfortunately. I’ve never owned any of those cars. You are a lucky man.
bought an i8 Coupe recently with less than 8k miles for 84k, thats CPO, which also included laser headlights and maintance package included, all while I see other with higher milage for more price. unsure if I just got an amazing deal or ahead of what all others are about to drop to.
By 10 years you can expect to have to replace the big battery and other problems arising. The diff in hp is negligible. Can be addresses on the engine simply.
Great Video, Could i please have some advice? I am based in the UK and have been looking at the i8's for sometime, I am after a white, 2015-17, less then 30k miles, laser lights, HKardon and HUD with a budget of upto £53k. Would their be any advice or suggestions for me please?
Biggest mistake BMW made was NOT making it a pure BEV. Any hybrid is the worst of both worlds -- all the maintenance of an ICE plus a complete second electric drive system. Double the chance for problems.
I've always liked the i8's design, a departure from other post-1998-hideous BMW's which are getting uglier by the year. I don't think that this will be a future classic though. It's more gimmicky and striking. I was quite disappointed to learn that it's a composite body (not metal). I had inquired at a local BMW dealer on the i8 years ago and was in fact told it's "not that good". It's not a sports car by any means even though it masquerades as one. The M1 and 635 CSi (The Shark) were BMW's finest moments by way of sports coupe's, and I don't consider the M3, M4 or M5 in this category. Thanks for this video, was always curious about this car. A near new i8 over here (2022) will set one back $140K
Hmmm, I dunno. I always loved the design, but did you ever hear one of them driving by? They sound terrible. I'd love to like the i8, but I just can't when it sounds like that... ^^
I was not aware it had that issue, I frequently read the forums for i8, have not heard that to be a problem. Did 120kkm in mine including nurburgring, never had a problem.
*What car would you like to see analyzed next?*
M2
Mclaren 650s
Ferrari 348 please!
Amg GT 4 door please!
Can you revisit the GT350(R)?
A few interesting points
1. The supply increase is caused by cars coming off lease (2 year leases)
2. I did a bit of analysis comparing the supply of an i8 to a 911 to understand the popularity and would be interesting if you included some for of that. Basically cars sold/cars available used on the market
3. 2019-2020 have some notable advantages
- bigger battery
- carplay
4. Warranty is 4 years bumper-bumper, 8yrs hybrid components
Thanks for your work!
The person who designed this car is amazing and awesome. This person has a very unique design style. For me, since I saw it in 2008, it feels like time has stopped moving, and I always feel that its appearance is still so stunning. 😊
Thanks so much for this video. I plan on getting one and it loosing value is okay because I don’t ever plan on selling it
I own a Ferrari 488 Pista, a Portofino, a Porsche 992 and an i8 roadster, but to be honest the i8 is the most exotic and fascinating car to me. It's a piece of BMW history. I'm sure prices will follow th Z8: no one wanted them new, now they are highly desired. 911 are great cars, but it's allways more or less the same - at least the Look.
The Carrera is not a cheap car to fix and maintain. Just check the price of a replacement PDK gearbox or an engine rebuild. They made 100’s of thousands of 911, manufactured and oversupplied to the market during the last 10 tears. Not really a collectible car anymore unless you buy a special limited production model, due to over supply. The i8 is very special to drive and it’s construction. Less than 20.000 made in the complete production run. The last updated generation from 2018 was not made in big numbers… I think the future will prove the i8 was a very special car and become very collectible. Over the years I have owned 2 x i8’s and 5 x 911’s. All fantastic driving machines for their designed purpose. The i8 was way ahead of its time in hybrid tech and design.
The i8 is definitely a future classic. Name me one car with butterfly doors that didn’t eventually appreciate over time!
The i8, because the battery will be useless and once it’s useless so will a 3 cylinder engine. Other cars with butterfly doors don’t have this narrow design.
@@PSBrathwaite rubbish-talk we say in germany.. if you have no clue dont comment. it will come like with the bmw z8 -google it when you not know what it is.. i buy one in 2001 for71k - and the i8 will mayby not so much rise but even good. and the battery (ist only a relativ small battery not bigger than 4x a pack of bud-light 30cans-box.
@@PSBrathwaite eventually battery tech will improve and 3rd party companies will produce batteries allowing the i8 to probably do over double the electric miles it could originally.
I sat in the prototype back in 2012 at the Irvine, California reveal. We got to drive the new 7 series around Irvine.
I have had 3 i8s and own 4k mile Roadster.
The fast big drop in Gen 2 is due 100% to 30-35% discount offered on ALL 19/20 new cars to shift them, like the Z8 was in 2003.
In 2021 Autotrader had 234 coupes and 67 Roadsters - in Feb 23 just 123 coupes and 20 ROADSTERS. when they get to 6 or 7 cars values skyrocket just like my SLS, Z8, CLS, 996.1 gt3 did....get one now while just over half retail as they'll be back at retail in 5-6 years and twice retail in 10-15 years !
This video contains more recent data on the i8: ruclips.net/video/8nl4pgolhd4/видео.html
soooo what does this mean and what model is best bang for your bucks?
This video is interesting and I like the data approach. The video does fail to highlight most BMW I8's were leased vehicles and a 2019-2020 model BMW i8 having been coming off lease at a unique time--during the actual and post pandemic. If you look at the original MSRP price you got hefty discounts by comparison but they were discounted out of the gates. Yet, the pricing ratio is less than say that of a Porsche 911 which would be at or above original msrp. If you want to own an i8 get a 2nd generation roadster that is a CPO with no accidents and low mileage. The supply level increase is due to the year model drop and reactivating a year later with the 2nd gen and off lease. People also saw radical increased values so smart people who owned an i8 were able to profit and dealers as well. Dealers banked on the low predicted i8 residuals which were forecasted years prior. Video would be excellent if accounted for these specifics.
Was just watching this again, it's important to note that the i8 prepandemic just as it was being discontinued got massive discount - iirc I got a 40k CAD discount on a Brand new 2019 coupe just before the pandemic
Can you do an update/follow up w current values? I’m interested in a roadster 2nd gen w low miles. And yes, no warranty scares me
I bought a 2019 bmw i8 last year (2nd gen) thinking these would appreciate over time. Thank you for your analysis, I love the car and idk if it's an investment worth holding onto. I hope so
As an i8 owner, would be interesting to see price change in the roadster vs coupe. I have the coupe but have interest in the roadster and have been waiting for the sweetspot. They seem to be holding up in value.
The price development in the roadster market is similar to the one in the second gen market as most of the second gen cars are roadsters.
It's a numbers and personal preference game. There are less roadsters made and the roadster makes an already unique even more special.
@@jasonstewart1227 i just upgraded to a 2019 roadster a month ago. Couldnt agree more. Kinda miss the backseats.. but it otherwise takes the i8 to another level.
The roadster looks even more unique and futuristic. You lose the back seats which is probably not a concern for many people.
I’ve rented the coupe a couple times while in Vegas. Once with my wife and two boys so it was PERFECT. And once with just my wife and we even rented an Audi R8 on the same trip so for a day we had BOTH cars and chased each other on the desert roads.
The i8 was SO MUCH BETTER than the R8 in every way.
More fun. More confident (I did 156mph in it). Better looks. Amazing doors. Much better sound system. Heads up display. Better technology. Excellent comfort/sport mode suspension adjustments and sound adjustments. The i8 is amazing and you are very lucky to have one!!!
For comparison I’ve also rented a McLaren MP4-12C, Dodge Vioer, Ferrari GTC4LUSSO (which also fit my boys in the back comfortably), Tesla Model 3 (also fits the boys and is super fast and discreet) and a 911 (which fits the kids only when they were little, now they are probably too big for any ride over 15 minutes in the back of one).
Unfortunately. I’ve never owned any of those cars. You are a lucky man.
Hi, How about 2025 predict for roadster? thank you!!
bought an i8 Coupe recently with less than 8k miles for 84k, thats CPO, which also included laser headlights and maintance package included, all while I see other with higher milage for more price. unsure if I just got an amazing deal or ahead of what all others are about to drop to.
By 10 years you can expect to have to replace the big battery and other problems arising. The diff in hp is negligible. Can be addresses on the engine simply.
The Smart Roadster would be interesting.
This car for me is the best value supercar, you can get one for about 60-70k and its not even a 10 years old
Good moment for a market update 😉
It featured in numerous videos but i believe this is the latest one: ruclips.net/video/O3yMC6pSzrQ/видео.html
Great Video, Could i please have some advice? I am based in the UK and have been looking at the i8's for sometime, I am after a white, 2015-17, less then 30k miles, laser lights, HKardon and HUD with a budget of upto £53k.
Would their be any advice or suggestions for me please?
I’d love another video on this for present day
This video contains an updated price trend: ruclips.net/video/8nl4pgolhd4/видео.html
2011 Cayenne hybrid please, thanks !
Why did they not combine the 3.0 twin turbo with this hybrid system?that would have been a real hit.
bmw doesn't have v6, and inline 6 is too long to fit in the car
Regards,forgot it was inline for some reason.
Great Car
BMW M8 Competition Convertible
Biggest mistake BMW made was NOT making it a pure BEV. Any hybrid is the worst of both worlds -- all the maintenance of an ICE plus a complete second electric drive system. Double the chance for problems.
Wtf with i3 prices, why so they skyrocket?
I've always liked the i8's design, a departure from other post-1998-hideous BMW's which are getting uglier by the year. I don't think that this will be a future classic though. It's more gimmicky and striking. I was quite disappointed to learn that it's a composite body (not metal). I had inquired at a local BMW dealer on the i8 years ago and was in fact told it's "not that good". It's not a sports car by any means even though it masquerades as one. The M1 and 635 CSi (The Shark) were BMW's finest moments by way of sports coupe's, and I don't consider the M3, M4 or M5 in this category. Thanks for this video, was always curious about this car. A near new i8 over here (2022) will set one back $140K
BMW I3
Hmmm, I dunno. I always loved the design, but did you ever hear one of them driving by? They sound terrible.
I'd love to like the i8, but I just can't when it sounds like that... ^^
It sounds much better in sport mode outside n inside. I have one the rare protonic red edition
Well they have a speaker making the noise you hear on the outside. It one of the "duel" exhaust pipes.
I made my exhaust flap always open and it sounds much better
I hope they keep depreciating tbh. Currently daily driving a z3 and looking to upgrade roadsters lol
The offer may grow up due to overheating of the 3 cylinder engine promt to have issues
I was not aware it had that issue, I frequently read the forums for i8, have not heard that to be a problem. Did 120kkm in mine including nurburgring, never had a problem.
No matter how much % 996 increase ,it still is a most ugly 911 ever