Vietnamese vs. Scandinavians - AOEIV Modded Civilizations

This is a casted game featuring two new modded civilizations in AOE4 - the Vietnamese and the Scandinavians, played by their creators, Hosein and Lammet. (I was the designer of the Vietnamese so I might have a little bit of bias here.)
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[@qwerty222999]

Scandinavians need spearmen. Every single civilization in the world has had spearmen.

[@mr.mhamad414]

really good job designing this civs go go chilly

[@sunnymomo927]

Still waiting for the Aztec intro 🥹

[@aczhang7577]

Excellent work. Curious about how will you design Tibet or Bhutan in AOE4?

[@BEEETRUS]

Where is the Scandinavians in 60 secs short pls

[@egysniper1182]

I think having a civ with no spears is not a problem and they have crossbows. I think it's a good change

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Plus, it seems to be predicated on an early Feudal Age rush with the raiders.
All offense and little defense.

[@ChillyEmpire]

1. Every civ in the game has spearmen.
2. Crossbows are only available in the castle age.
3. Crossbows don’t counter horsemen. This civ has no answer to horsemen.
It’s fundamentally a broken design plain and simple.

[@jeromemartel3916]

@@ChillyEmpire Raiders have bonus vs cav and hit relatively hard natively making them very good early game and bad late game balanced around a fast, hard hitting infantry. I think this is a good civ identity altough maybe not matured enough?
The fight that he lost is because the vienamese player had only knights and he had half spearmen. Vs horsemen the scandinavian player would have won.
Altough I concede that feudal knight will look rough for this civ (unless raider are super fucking good in dark age to deny gold for knights).

[@ChillyEmpire]

@@jeromemartel3916 Viking Raiders had their anti cav bonus removed in a more recent patch.
Scandinavians have 0 answer to cavalry now.

[@jeromemartel3916]

@@ChillyEmpire Yeah ok, I just saw they have shield wall and charge. I tought it was only a no ability units... I think removing these 2 will balance it and reverting the damage to cav.

[@AkiZukiLenn]

poison arrow should be a required upgrade or the toxic should reduce.

[@calyx5210]

why does vietnam have knights? vikings dont get spearmen but vietnam gets knights. so weird.

[@thanghnguyeenx5003]

we do had heavy kinghts, it just decent troop.

[@ChillyEmpire]

Vietnam historically did have heavy lancers in this period.
People forget but the Dai Viet were a bona fide imperialist power in Southeast Asia. They’re not just hiding in the jungles.

[@BEEETRUS]

​@ChillyEmpire Where is the Scandinavians in 60 secs short pls

[@ChillyEmpire]

​@@BEEETRUS Yoyo, sorry. I REALLY dislike the design for the Scandinavians. It was designed by someone who doesn't really understand the game. I won't promote it except to talk about why it's a bad design.
I am working on a redesign for them. I may promote that.