Mother, Daughter, Sister, Spy
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2017
- Melissa Mahle, former US Intelligence Officer and Expert on the Middle East | Jonna Mendez, former Chief of Disguise in the CIA’s Office of Technical Service | Rollie Flynn, 30-year veteran of the CIA, including Director of CIA’s Leadership Academy | Sandy Grimes, CIA’s clandestine service, helped capture Aldrich Ames in a panel discussion about women in the Intelligence Community.
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I am addicted to watching Jonna Mendez!
Same here. I'm addicted to listening to her amazing stories.
Ditto. She's actually the first woman that I've binge watched!
I am too. Those stories!
Me too. She’s a force
I've just discovered this series of talks and I'm addicted to them. What a fascinating group of speakers and topics!
Came over from the Wired channel and Jonna Mendez’s video. Thank you all for your service. 🎗
Llama Sugar me too!!
Same, these videos very interesting to watch to say the least.
I liked the spy stories..
lol just saw the Wired video too and reading through the comments find this one and i've enjoyed every minute of both.
same
How very interesting to see this panel of intelligence women :) What great assets they are to the world itself. Thank you for your service.
@2nd Amendment for Canada! well that is not feasible. They are very much needed to protect the countries we live in. Canada has
them too..RCMP and CSIS
@2nd Amendment for Canada! "free countries should not have secret orgs" lmao okay bud good luck with that
"free nations have no need to conduct espionage against hostile foreign powers the CIA shouldn't exist" -an idiot
@2nd Amendment for Canada! It's not always about the nation's secret.
But also protecting the Nation from other nations or several illegal organitations. Who knows if your ally has betrayed you, or other nations attempt to fuck up your country's economy & national security.
So, grow up buddy. Don't just focus on the negative side.
Intelligence women".. don't you think that's redundant?
Also found this thru WIRED. Jonna
Is so smart; you can tell she has so much in her head that she’ll “never tell”. Thank all you ladies for your bravery! 💞🇺🇸 Also, Thank you all 4 beautiful women for your service! ✊🏼
The stories these agents tell of real life situations are more harrowing than anything I’ve seen on TV. Their courage and dedication is astounding. They have my utmost gratitude.
By far the most interesting panel discussion I've ever seen! What incredible people with incredible stories. I could listen to this for days.
Same
I agree. As a woman I have so much admiration and regard for these amazing heroes who gave such excellent service to our country.
Thank you to each one of these learned women.
Came here to say thank you to these fascinating and intelligent agents for the work they've done for our country, and for their candor in sharing their experiences with us.
God bless these ladies and all those who serve our country.
Amazing story, I LOVE listening to SpyCast, thank you guys so much.
This was great. Thank you for your service, and for sharing this.
Thanks for these videos!! I am loving all of them! Please keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for this channel.
I would like to thank these women and all of the Intelligence agents that dedicate their lives and the sacrifices made at the family level.
It perturbs me the negative talk a lot of unknowing people say.🇺🇸📷
OMG This panel is phenomenal.
One of the most interesting talks I have heard in a long time. So grateful for these ladies for what they have done for our country. Thank you.
What an amazing program! . Theses women are beyond courageous ! How could either of these woman hold up after all these stressful situations ? Personally , coming from a performers view that might act in a James Bond film and be thrilled to get the job, would if called to REALLY DO A SPY JOB FOR THIS COUNTRY WOULD ( in my case ) Crumble and have a nervous breakdown upon finding out the REAL TRUTHS of the situation they just acted out in a film. May I say more than thank you. May you always be that shining example to all people throughout the world and lastly helping our young people become aware of what they as individuals MUST DO to preserve Democracy in our country. God Bless all of you ! Sincerely all the kindness and love to all of you. Pam
I think I know of the countries/location referred to in their stories....... but Amazing!!
Thank you ladies really enjoyed your sharing from Downunder!
Thank you for your services, Ma'am's.
Love these videos
The best investment of time to watch this program. Thank you
Polished, suave, charming, steely, intelligent, articulate, tight-lipped about secrets, patriotic, charming, feminine, tough, are some adjectives that come to mind. For any woman born before 1970, we know how hard it was to succeed in professions dominated by men. Either they were your mentor, or they harassed you, or held you down, or mocked you. To be respected by men enough to be promoted, showed that they were twice as accomplished as their male colleagues, and incredibly tough and had political savvy to rise within the ranks. Not to mention the service they rendered all US citizens with their dedication, creativity, and courage.
My mother lived through WWII in Europe. She said to us as children, "The Americans saved us! When the US soldiers rolled through Belgium, the women and girls would fall on their necks, kissing them with joy for liberating them from the Nazis. The soldiers gave them chocolate which they had not seen for 5 yrs during the war. There was so much gratitude.
My Belgian grandmother was living with her 3 kids (incl my mom) in a hilltop country house in Liege. My grandfather was jailed by the Germans at the time. The Nazis had taken over the house as it had a good vantage point. One day, the American soldiers rolled in so fast on their Jeeps that the Germans scrambled to get out fast. The Commandant told my grandmother, "We would have shot you all, but unfortunately, we do not have enough time!" and then drove away. Thanks to the US soldiers, my mother lived, and I too, was able to be born. All over Northern France, around the D day beaches, and towns in Belgium, there are plaques and monuments that are posted in town halls and churches and village squares thanking the American and British soldiers for their service to France and Belgium. Their service will never be forgotten.
The work of these women in the CIA is invaluable and we are very lucky to have them. Thank you, Ladies for your service!
Mother, Daughter, Sister, Spy
Doo-dah, doo-dah
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There is no way I could have been married to one of these women. I would have been a basket case every time they left the house never knowing if they would come home. A terrible way to live.
Incredible ladies
You're an amazing woman!!
Outstanding.
beautiful, intelligent and courageous woman! great asset to the country and the world.
This was great! So interesting. I would love how they got involved with these jobs. I am jealous :D I know it is not easy and not like the movies. I cant imagine it is any easy job. I can't imagine the stresses. I am so thankful for these women ....and men that hide in the background to keep us save in the US.
Yeah spying on someone thousand of miles away from you to protect you. I get it.
Roblox xd You don’t get it.
Don't be envious, go join the ranks. But its a thankless job in a giant bureaucracy filled with men, no glamor involved, a lot of tedious work, moments of great stress working with time pressures in a crisis situation at times, no outward praise, a lot of deception even to family members so they are not vulnerable themselves, etc.
There is no movie glamor. Not the most rewarding job for a lot of us. Your personality must be happy with all these constraints.
“Government at its best”…truer words were never spoken.
with guys who were in the cia, i don't really see them as all too polished or exceptional (of course, i'm incorrect. but all i'm saying is that it isn't all that visible to me). but these females seem very exceptionally well rounded, cerebral, and cogent. they seem to have pretty balanced perspectives.
But remember that Men are best at action and are in general not as articulate as Women. In general. Women can express themselves better and in general have better language skills.
@@mjremy2605 That's some quite spectacular gender stereotyping, there.
@@mjremy2605 Raising children is of no relevance. You're grossly stereotyping. There are any number of eloquent men -- I mean, seriously, the world is full of them. There are any number of men who have no interest or ability in "action". There are any number of ineloquent women. There are any number of "action"-oriented women.
@@mjremy2605 OK but we're talking about adult men and women, not small children.
@@beeble2003 It's my comment. I will say what I please. F*ck you.
Holy cow I love this sort of stuff and I only just found a panel of women who carved out pathways in the field. This is gold!!!! And so so so touching. I wonder how much corruption went through their fingers though. Love that the CIA has lifted some of these amazing people to let us hear the stories. We love them, I hope we can gear about some of the cool cases that went on. Or the BEST cases that are infamous within the CIA. I don't even think it's bad to lift retired operatives and let them tell their stories within reason. I actually think it shows growth in the CIA. I just hope it's been drained if all the crooks and pedophiles.
I think it inadvisable
Became friendly with a CIA worker while I was assigned to Panama. We did not talk about our work. I was an Army officer who spent a lot of time “down country”. Once while wearing my uniform in Venezuela a military group secretary and I were going to a meeting. We came upon a violent demonstration. First thing she does was to have me put on her pink sweater over my Army officers with ribbons uniform shirt. By that, we avoided getting caught-up in that protest.
Where is Panama? That lady was a quick thinker. She must have been used to living in crime-ridden towns where she understood the mindsets of criminals/terrorists who were pelted up with extreme hatred.
@@pinklady7184 Panama is a country between Colombia and Costa Rica. It is not really considered Central America, but it is located in that region. The uncle of my sister-in-law was a previous president of Panamá. His name: Justo Areosemeña.
@@multitieredinvestor183 "It is not really considered Central America"
I didn't know that. Do people consider it more a part of South America? Or just its own thing? Or something else?
Admirable minds
Really enjoyed the discussion about losing agents in Aames' wake, because I read "Red Widow" by Alma Katsu and loved the scene where a female case officer lost an agent for the fist time. Katsu showed that being emotional in front of man at CIA works out just about as well as it does for the rest of us..........................
These four women were very good and laid out how to handle family and kids while doing what they did for the CIA, well worth the time
I’d like to hear these ladies’ reactions to the Bengazi failure.
36:00 coping w/work
Thanks 🙏🏼
Striking resemblance of Malissa's photo *(@ the start of the vid), to Stargate's character Samantha Carter.
You all have my sincere admiration. Thank you for your service.
Would love to hear this brilliant & courageous panel what their thoughts are in 2022 abt threats today!
My great aunt is Rollie flynn!
THE BEST CIA OFFICERS IN THE WAR ON TERRORISM WERE
WOMAN WHO RECRUITED WOMEN AND STILL DO.
OPERATIONAL
that was sick
She was 7 mos pregnant! WOW!!! 🤩
I just love listening to your programming , interesting , thoughtv provoking , however, there's alot useless information, what books or films could watch I want the real thing?
Jewels New York Truth.
Incredible womans
Yallah🤫🏴☠️🫶🙌🏻
Thank you 🙏🏻 for sharing your memories most Bad Ass Ladies of America 🇺🇸
I love ❤️ you all
Can’t wait to join the C.I.A. and M.O.S.A.D.
Semper Fi Ladies and Gentlemen
I’m
Listening to this in the middle of a pandemic and towards the end of this Grimes mentioned biological weapons xxx
These are some of the Most Bad A** Grandma. Like Don't mess with me cause My grandma. lol
My god the voice of the moderator 😣😣😣😣
I don't know if it's a cultural thing or not. How to fix that. I would get special treatment, or I regressed to a childlike state, especially at one point. In addition to being called a whore, I didn't join the army to stay in the army. I did it so that I could go to school. I wasn't planning on having kids. in there, which meant that I didn't want to get married. Plus, I needed counseling on how to have a relationship because I was so degraded growing up in regards to sex and peers. Plus, my family isn't exactly a great model.
Hi
So this was an 85 86 business with Aldrich Ames but he should know that he was doing things even earlier I think that's when it started to get worse than what he had been doing before he was just parceling out pieces.
very great dear three mam
very good luck and super Welcome
great lecture.🏕🏝🐷🐂🐃🐐🌋🏔🌎🌍🗻🏕🐷हजुरहरू सबैलाई हार्दिक नमस्कार छ सेवा🗻
At 42:00 "I could be shot right then and there" Like tens of millions of young men who or serve in the military or police departments throughout the US. I'm sure there are men and women who work shifts in a convenience store who have had the same feeling and get minimum wage. That said, she does tell good stories.
Signs that a society might be f***ed up: convenience store workers having the same experience of danger as somebody who's working for an intelligence agency at a meeting with an internationally wanted terrorist.
super very good morning great dear mam
हजुरहरू सबैलाई हार्दिक नमस्कार छ।
Thank you very much.
🏕🏝🌎🌏🌍
Time to give a Truth answer to Jewels the boss.
very super dear great women mam.
sweet good noon and very good luck
हजुरहरू सबैलाई हार्दिक नमस्कार साथै धेरै शुभकामना छ।
Thank you very much🌍🏕🏝🌋🏔
49:50 Did the judge give Aldrich Ames a Special Master?
#Mar-a-Lago-the-non-SCIF
A lot of us are trained to want to finish school, have a career, and then the government raises our kids in daycare. My mom actually apologized to me for this. She was like, I made a monster. I'm so happy she did. Currently, in a way to keep women in lower jobs, they use it as a chain to tie them to the system as single parents. Gotta love it. I'm not doing it. Many are waking up and simply not having children. Live at home.
If your advise is to other women "don't have children", then be prepared for the rapid decline in human civilization. 😊
@@LilliR4116 Yes, well, it's not advice. People are waking up and working in their self-interest instead of the trap. If they don't have children, we could be taken over or dependent on migrants.
@@LivingDead53 Dependant on migrants? Are you normal? They're most likely saying the same thing....lol
It's not going to happen, there will always be women in careers and women who will want to raise their family and have a menial job. However, according to what you said about being taken over, who are you referring to ? Machines, aliens or simply migrants? 😆
@@LilliR4116 that was poorly written on my side. We're not having as many kids. Look at the stats.
@@LivingDead53 👍😊
Well, I had a problem with the number of males surrounding me. It was a problem since I was young without experience. Fuck with my head and try to sleep with me constantly. We pretty much have to get married, but they don't say that, and those relationships fail at times, too, when they are split up. The males wouldn't listen to me, and in one job, we all ended up in the office due to treatment. A lot of other females went crazy, too. I met some, don't get me wrong, strong ones who could do it, but there were more who had issues or just got pregnant and left. Babies R US. I think it would be okay if we could get more females in there. Other armies manage to be together with different rules.
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Wrong title
If you're still there, explain?
@@andrewsparkes8829 Maybe they were expecting different ages of women?
@@maryt6426 That makes a little more sense!
I think the title suggests that anyone's mother, daughter or sister could be a spy, like these women, and you wouldn't know. Notice they didn't include 'wife' -- I think bc many spouses do know their wife's employer, just not the details of their work. At any rate, this was kind of an ironic comment from someone calling themself "don brassco!" :)
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Why are they sitting in darkness?
Imagine asking a group of strong respectable women who are older if they are “BAD ASS BITCHES” 🤨 like who came up with this, Jesus Christ have respect for your elders
It's quite clear that this was just a flavourful way of asking the question, "Can you comment on the media perception of women in intelligence agencies?" It's clear that the moderator fully expected the answer, "No, we are not bad-ass bitches." It's clear that the journalist who coined the phrase was using it to criticize the media portrayal. It's clear that all four panel members understood all of this. So what, actually, is the problem, here?
They're all blonde.
Is it true that the Cuban exiles blamed John F. Kennedy for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion?
Probably, but who would care about a bunch of exiled cubans in the 60s?
Can you imagine being in charge of an event and not telling your tech crew to have lighting on all the speakers? They are sitting in the dark!!! Then have two projection screens to either side, so audience can see the speakers’ faces and see the screens.
Also, this moderator is why you book a professional like a local news anchor to serve as a moderator for a major event like this. Never make jokes at your speakers’ expense! Cringe. And a professional most certainly would not use up-speak. No. No. No. No. No.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🥦🍊🥭🌻🌻🌼🌈🥬👌🍎🍍✍️
Is it true that Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald knew each other in New Orleans?
He also knew david ferry and george bush
Maybe we need more classes on family values. A lot of us are runaways or joined to escape our lives and had fractured home lives. We've been leadeth by Satan to the sacred, Hell dumpster, so we need a little redemption and education on how to live, not Breaking Benjamin. Not C, but my other roommate had a problem like that, too. She and her partner would talk about how they didn't want kids because of what happened to them. It was an obsession because they obviously wanted to have a family.
The baby might be a good disguise for a woman, but for a man I would have to guess a homeless person. Just sit out on the sidewalk with a cup with some change
shaking at people in scrubby/dirty and worn/torn clothes begging for money. You can't become more invisible.
But that's not a useful disguise. A woman carrying a baby can still do pretty much everything without breaking cover. A homeless man can't really leave his place on the sidewalk without instantly looking suspicious. And what espionage work can he do sitting on the sidewalk? Pretty much none, except send and receive short messages, which could more easily and safely be done using a dead drop.
At the beginning of this video, the woman mentioned she got a letter from the president for her efforts in bringing peace to the Middle East, please can someone tell me when when the bombs and the killings fell silent, cause I can't . .
She was thanked for her work on "the Middle East Peace Process", so sorry Ian your request to join the CIA is declined. I worked with many women in this field and their work standards were indistinguishable from men. Both sexes have outstanding, good and mediocre analysts in equal measure, in my view.
Why is it women always talk about men ? I don't understand why men don't need to compare themselves with women but women always compare themselves to men. Just be yourself. God made you and you don't need to measure yourself against men
Women live in a world where men see a housekeeper, sexual object, and nursemaid. When men value women in all their complexities and quit treating them as objects (and abusing, controlling, devaluing them), then women can be themselves in their own right. They can attempt that now, but most men see what they want to see.
So now a lady spy cannot use the "jumping in bed" ruse when someone comes to the room
Probably still can
In AIT, I was on the floor with crazies due to that. It's like, they're all batshit crazy. Can we put it into the contract to be prostitutes? At least say it. No offense, guys. How many sexual assault cases can we rack up?
field operative is really hot chick should be admitted
People do really stupid things in the army at times due to stress. It's semi-entertaining. I don't think the punishments should be death. Go ruin our lives with bad chapters, not our minds.
Liar liar your nose is growing and your pants are on fire.
Silly stories 😂
If you are a woman and want a career get a stay at home husband.
Too bad Jonna can't shut up about Trump.
I find the whole episode condescending to woman
Can't tell if that's sarcastic or dumb
She just seems to be curious as to how being female affected their experience.
I find your reply condescending to grammar
@@joshpointoh 😂