Diabetics Are Hacking Their Own Insulin Pumps
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2018
- There is a revolution in the Type 1 diabetes community and thousands of people are now hacking their insulin pumps for better blood sugar management. CNBC's Erin Black, who was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes 20 years ago, decided to try out the hacked system. Here's what happened.
Type 1 diabetes is a disease that affects more than 1.2 million Americans. I'm one of them.
It's a disease that impairs the body's ability to produce the hormone insulin, which normally comes from the pancreas. So insulin has to be injected.
Managing blood sugars can be very difficult, and patients use a pump to help mimic the activity of the pancreas. However, pumps don't automatically adjust insulin levels for diabetics. And the manual process is tedious and can be dangerous.
But a few years ago, people figured out how to hack their insulin pumps to make them automatically adjust insulin levels more precisely.
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Hacking Diabetes With This DIY Artificial Pancreas
Of course the manufacturer warns against it, they're not profiting.
Normally, I'm all in for good capatlism hatred but this time I have to put in my veto. The dude from Medtronic clearly said that people can do what they want but they have to warn about it because otherwise IF something happens the company could get sued BIG time.
[EDIT: Sorry, the example given was bad; I removed it]
Of course, this is just money talking again but this time it's not the fear of less profit but the fear of deficit.
@@Bambuzzsprosse That's a terrible example, the lady who got scalded by McDonalds coffee got severe burns and required extensive skin grafts. All this because McDonalds keeps it's coffee at a temperature much higher than what is standard and safe to save money. Even previous to that lawsuit hundreds of incidents of burns due to the high temperature coffee had been recorded and McDonalds kept doing it that way because paying of the burn victims or going to court was cheaper than lowering the temperature
@@Bambuzzsprosse please read up on the "Coffee Hot" thing, that woman sued only because McDonald's wouldn't help out with Hospital costs, she knew that she was partly to blame for the spillage but the coffee was Dangerously Hot and by Dangerously I mean that the coffee was 180 to 190 Degrees Fahrenheit which is 82 to 87 Degrees Celicus. It gave her Third Degree Burns, McDonald's had known that the heat of their coffee could cause serious burns for 10 years and she only sued them because they only gave her $800 to help towards her Medical Bills instead of the amount of $20,000 dollars that she asked for, the woman needed Skin Grafts on her Inner Thighs!
@@Krautstrudel It's not an accident that many got this wrong, either. McDonalds put a lot of effort in to make the woman look as ridiculous as possible so people wouldn't agree with her.
I still think there is a point in what the representative of the pharma company said in pointing out that modifying your own insulin pump isn't necessarily safe. Especially with a pump that can receive radio signals and respond to them, you are actually making your body suceptible to technical errors and cyber attacks.
@@beardiemom the fact that the pump can receive radio signals is a risk, but wath is even riskier is the fact that an app controls the pump indirectly, because if that app has a security problem a completely new type of ransomware could become a problem; the radio signal problem isn't as important because you have to be in close vicinity to exploit that, while an app could potentionally be exploited from anywhere in the world
"It's like modifying your car"
yeah, kinda like adding a steering wheel because it didn't come with one
Just buy the approved steering wheel for 10x the price from the manufacturer
Absofuckinglutely underrated comment right here.
THIS
agree
facts
My oldest son is in his early 20's and he has type 1 diabetes. But thank God for this piece of article ruclips.net/user/postUgkxVYhghKWmrUgXARZ_ydZTvmmcrw5L0I5i At first he thought he had the flu and was lying down on the bed for three days until his sister took him to the hospital. They took his blood and it was 600. What I do not understand is how he could have gotten it, since no one in the family has it. But he is winning the battle now. This is good stuff.
I honestly believe a lot of our illnesses come from vaccines. The whole rona thing has opened my eyes a lot. My daughter has renal failure and developed it a few months after meningitis vax. As a mom my gut feeling is that caused an autoimmune reaction that attacked her kidneys 😔
Nunca entiendo a la gente que cree en estas cosas sin fundamento
@@beckyboo1433 I understand where you are coming from but how do you explain that archeologists shown evidence of Diabetes type 1/2 in ancient Egypt artifacts. Alltho I do believe that vaccines can cause sever side effects than are not acknowledged by medical science/industries. I am sorry to hear that about your daughter btw. Wishing you all strength
This shouldn't be branded as a wholesome "life finds a way but we find it quicker" story.
This should be presented as a showcase of just how much of a corporate dystopia we've got with our healthcare system.
Bro the comment just above you says the same thing. "
SamiTheAnxiousBean
1 month ago (edited)
the fact that people have to hack their devices just make themselves a better device to use and the pharmacy tech is attempting to stop that just shows how much of a corporate dystopia we live in"
we are all smart
@@joshuanesvacil1758 weird
Can't 2 out of 3 million people think the same? Even I was thinking exactly the same as this comment without even looking at the comments
@@derinko k
And people still think Right To Repair is bad for the world.
There’s no profit in it. Off course it should be illegal
Who thinks that besides Apple?
@@sokritlun1624 John Greene.
Edit- meant to say John deere.
@@sokritlun1624 most companies
@@sokritlun1624 Microsoft, Ford, Tesla, Amazon, Caterpillar, Case, John Deere, Komatsu, Manitowoc, etc etc etc etc.
The dude who patented insulin literally made it free because it was so important to him that it helped people. The US said: screw the people who need this, it costs $300
Edit: I’m American, please stop the arguments now, some of y’all are too rude. I myself am gonna back away from the arguments so please stop.
Insulin $300 a vial. Covid vaccine free.
"Don't worry I'm here from the State, and I'm here to help."
@@hawhafunnyraffs5568 whats the relation between covid vaccine and insulin
@@grayblues.6424
Unsure.
@@grayblues.6424 both are necessary. Both are needed. How do you not see their relation?
@@aliceb.7681 because covid is a pandemic. Although, im pretty sure after many years the covid vaccine would not be free.
Of course. Someone puts the technology out for free, and then a company makes the same thing for $7,000 without insurance. That's some bull.
And even then if you don’t have the best insurance or are underinsured then it’s not guaranteed much will be covered. My brother had ALS disease, and he needed a special wheelchair that would have cost $50,000 without insurance. Luckily his wife (a critical care nurse) had good insurance, which covered over 90% of it. But still, a few thousand dollars is not an amount all Americans can fork up out of pocket.
And don't forget the price tag if something goes wrong with the device
@@generalzucc462 Something did go wrong, but luckily insurance covered most if not all of the repair. Of course that's definitely not the case for many people.
@@icecreamjunkie6790 What about an Wheelchair could cost 50k?😯 For that amount I could hire someone to custom make one with the best and most expensive components while still having lots of money left
@@techtastisch7569 you could get a brand new car and just drive through entrances like 'and what?'
"I'm hungry and I want to buy this apple."
"Do you have hunger insurance?"
"No."
"Then it will cost you $120"
"I'll just grow my own apples."
"But that's dangerous. Ours are FDA approved."
Pretty much lol
copied comment
Lol, this is the logic that leads to people ingesting horse dewormer.
No one charges $120 for an apple and comparing apples and hunger insurance to medical is completely false. FDA approval DOES mean something and food is different then scientifically studied medicine and vaccines. The reason this video works is they aren't testing a new concept, they're using existing technology and facts about diabetes treatment to make a more efficient and safe system.
Your comparison on works if we compare it to "I'm gonna make my own insulin" which people likely don't know how to do and would likely screw it up. Theres a huge difference and you cannot compare these 2 scenarios with the given analogy. It just makes you look like you injests horse dewormer instead of the vaccine cause FDA, not to mention, the vaccine is free.
@@arakan2996 You do realise that 'copied comment' is also a comment which you have copied from someone else? You are not the first person to assert 'copied comment'.
Don't be a hypocrite Omar.
@@jamielonsdale3018 lol
The manufacturer warns against using the hacked systems because doing so might interfere with their profit margin.
murdelabop the only concern i have is worry someone else could send their own commands to the insulin system and change it.
the fix : encrypt the command signal so only chosen persons can send commands , and design the dosage to not be too high/too low (be able to recognise a incorrect dosage)
@@drguy12345678 they used bluetooth? Security issue in a device like this? Dumb.
Jason Sage if they hack into the phone, they could brick it. They could even delete the app altogether, or change the code of the app to display good numbers, and stop transmitting the signal via Bluetooth; either that or, make it send extreme numbers to give a person a false dosage.
It would be better if the family used a Razzberry Pi or an Arduino with a Bluetooth connection without an internet connection. They could just put it as a physical connection to keep it an extremely close loop if the Bluetooth function becomes a high-security risk.
Nothing is un-hackable. If it has a chip it can be hacked.
@Artemis Fowl whats the kids name? I want to see the kids story
@Artemis Fowl source?
I'm editing this comment because someone pointed out a very basic thing which is very important: pumps can't work like this cause insulin doesn't work instantly and if pumps would wait for sugar level to increase and only then give insulin you would have crazy high spikes of sugar levels throughout the day.
Right ? We've had closed loop electronic systems on cars since the 80's.....
Same, I thought a pump WAS a artificial pancreas.
One word. Money.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Maybe not the first place the constant glaucous monitors are pretty recent compared to the pumps. The fact that as soon as they came out no corporation thought of integrating them is pretty telling though.
"its like moding your car" says the drug rep whos company charges 7k for a raspberry pi
TBF, they charge the 7K to cover the cost of researching the technology, shopping for manufacturers, and paying for licenses, trials, and marketing. THAT SAID, eff it, we need massive healthcare revision in the US. People get sicker and sicker with rates like they are when it'd be cheaper to keep them healthy in the first place.
@@soylencer no. if you can literally use an opensource the "research" was going to script library or github. plus the actual coding for the monitors is basic c# if/else. the chips and boards to do this have been in childrens toys under 100 usd since the 90s. no it greed. and bureaucrats.
"Its like modifying your car"
Me from a working class family in Texas: 🤠 so its completely fine and much less expensive?
Bro fr
This is the most American thing and so insanely sad that people have to do this just to live
I recently watched one of those “American healthcare costs” videos, there was this guy that was hiking and had a pretty bad accident, when he got out of hospital he got a 300 THOUSAND dollar bill
@@michelbruns Yeah i was shocked when i found out an inhaler in the US can cost around 250-350 $ i just bought a new inhaler for 5,66$ last week here in Norway
@@michelbruns I mountain bike and so far I haven't had any bad accidents but I know a guy who got a concussion had like a 40K bill and I think parts on his bike were broken. it's crazy how expensive healthcare is.
@@ArchangelTwelve "it's crazy how expensive healthcare is." in the us*
@@michelbruns yea it's just sad...smh
The DYI system was developed with care, to help someone in the family. The "approved" system is built to make money out of someone's misery.
@@Solizeus but medical stuff is way more expensive in the US, in many other countries insurance will cover it
@@Solizeus Not only is it significantly more expensive in the US, alot of countries do offer a large amount of healthcare for free. Secondly, US is the reason the prices are so high. They have a monopoly over drugs. Especially extremely extremely expensive drugs like the one for cancer.
@@EliteTrainedPro In Europe for example, the insurance companies are negotiating with the pharma industry, hospitals and other services about prices. The US is like "How much for this band aid?" - "Uhm, one million?" - "There you go".
@plentyness I am not from the USA. And this problem is faced anywhere in the world. Whoever wants to make money, finds a way to do it.
@@koolbuddy86 I agree that people should make money and stuff but making huge amounts money off of basic necessities should not be allowed. These profits margins are humongous. Food, water, air, healthcare and basic education are all very basic necessities.
"The company warned against using the hack system."
Because they want you to buy another overpriced system made by them... money, money, money!
Planned obsolescence is the downfall of the human race, man
It could also be that the system hasn't been approved or tested by the regulatory system and could cause death.
No, because they legally can’t advocate using non approved drug delivery systems.
Also it's a fair warning because in the wrong hands, there can be significant dangers to tweaking these machines. They are not saying: "don't use this". They are saying: "using this, comes with risks." Which seems fair to me.
It's not a warning if they restrict you from other means. There's something to be said about companies that use psychology to shill money from people. Technology really isn't that complicated as it seems, like most companies would have you to believe. The problem lies in those who don't want to learn and have the money to have everything done for them. People with money to throw away fit exactly into any big companies example of a "good" customer, and those without the means to pay don't mean anything to them. Think what you want about a company that views money as success, but they are not here to help.
Imagine selling a product for 7000 USD and expecting it to do well, when people have done it better with a Arduino years ago.
It's all about money 🤑💰
Actually it is a raspberry pi
@@codemelon2698 RPI GANG
the fact that people have to hack their devices just make themselves a better device to use and the pharmacy tech is attempting to stop that just shows how much of a corporate dystopia we live in
Welcome to tech
@@PunishedMushu more like this is america
@@ericlieberum19 even in Canada insulin products are not covered and most people pay out of pocket (nearly everything is covered in Canada)
@@Pactastic042 yea but its about 10 times cheaper here
Goodness, I just got done with a video on Honduran funerals ya privileged liar.
The "DIY car" analogy is just short for "we don't want you eating into our profits".
Right to repair, right to live.
Also there are thousand of guides on car modding and People that do it as a job
That's the hilarious thing. The metaphor he uses is just another crumbling pillar trying to justify their product that is in desperate need of competition. Right to independent repair is a pressing issue and gaining legal traction every day.
It's like a car mechanic saying you shouldn't mod your own car because it comes with risks because he wants people to go get modifications from him instead for profit
Pfizer is the ONLY vaccine which actually works for COVID. Coincidence ? I guess not.
I'm sorry, but private healthcare is so tone-deaf.
"We fixed an issue that you figured out we intentionally made!"
God forbid we make quality of life EASY and AFFORDABLE to secure… Jesus. Corporate America can be cruel.
I would say "is" is more accurate than "can be"...
As an electrical engineer, I understand that a professional medical product has to be developed, safe and certified. It would absolutely fine if they charged multiple hundred dollars. But 7000?!?
aint the price gets paid at least half from the med insurance? In amerika? In germsny it is that way as fsr as i know
This product has already been developed and tested and all that. It just needs some very simple software to run with it. Usually the US has the excuse of RnD but it's literally not possible in this case. It's basically one of the old devices paired up with a sensor and very very basic code. If they sold it for 150$ that would be a rip off as they are mass producing the items unlike the DIY kit. 7000$ is just incomprehensible.
@@fluffypuffyboy586 not everyone in america has proper medical insurance, and often it doesn't cover stuff it should. American health care is super for-profit, and when you're selling stuff people need to survive, and profit is your goal, they charge extreme amounts
@@fluffypuffyboy586 and when it comes to insurance, you are also paying for your insurance, right? So, one should be alert of exorbitant rises in pharma products. Because, this can easily translate into costlier insurance premiums
@@TheInvinciblesPlace yes but it is still way cheaper because companys have to compete. The german system is way better deal with it
A company that profits off of selling the same system is telling you that a DIY venture is dangerous and trying to put fear in people? Shocker
Who would have thought
To be fair, injecting the wrong amount of insulin can be just as bad as not having insulin at all. Instrument error and noise are real things in any real closed loop system that can make a system unstable over time. For example, this system relies on an instrument to measure blood sugar levels, if something goes wrong with that instrument, your controller will receive an incorrect reading, and will will give out an incorrect amount of insulin. It's difficult to know if your sensor is prone to failure without a lot of testing, something that DIY communities don't always have access to, since they may be using a variety of sensors. It's arguably more dangerous than chipping your car because your car doesn't need to run while you're sleeping. That being said, the prices on medical equipment in the US are probably driving people to accept that risk. I think that it's a neat project.
@@alexanderunguez9633 You sound like you are part of the fear campaign. BEGONE FROM HERE! You have no power over the DIY crowd!
But seriously, in any medical device, DIYers will tend to failsafe to a precautionary position, not "wing it" position. This means that if there's a software error, then the code should halt, sending no more signal to the device, which means no insulin injected......not whatever you were thinking.
I honestly wouldn't know how to code for whatever you were saying. "If error {insulin = 10000000}"? That's stupid. Go away.
@@sabriath If an error happened due to an incorrect reading; you wouldn’t know unless you did it yourself and know what readings are realistic.
The way to prevent this is to gather multiple readings in a short span of time before dosage, to make sure there weren’t any errors in measurement. It could also be programmed to never give enough insulin for it to be a fatal dose.
The idea that a software issue is immediately detected and halted is ridiculous. The best a person can do it try to prevent the error, or stop it from developing/being able to develop further. I have no idea why you’re being so condescending when your brain is a pea, at best.
I have my doubts on this
$7,000 LOL See that is the problem with healthcare and medical devices. There is no reason it cost $7,000
There is a reason, not a good one though, and it starts with an M
@@burgrz_tasty1237 and ends with oney
Shareholders?
If we removed all the stuff that made it expensive, you'd whine about the lack of R&D and safety regs and qualified personnel.
@13. Ghani Ziyad Sagiansyah remember, though. You always get what you pay for.
When I first heard about insulin pumps I just assumed this is how they all worked. Seems strange that a manual measurement and calculation would be needed, when there is already a computer stuck to your body.
Not the biggest leap ever, no...
I think it's because it can't work as quickly as the pancreas. So you need to tell it how much carbohydrate you'll be eating
Can’t believe the price of the FDA approved pump. $7000
Yeah, imagine all the Snickers they could buy for that?
If something happens to you when you use DIY system no one is responsible for it but yourself. But if something happens to you when you use that 7000 pump, you can sue medtronic or whatever pharma company for millions of dollars. That's the difference.
And medtronics has to deal with all the bugs glitches problems with the pump and every time one of the pump has a problem they have to spend resources to fix it,. Who's gonna do that for you when you use a DIY pump? if someone else hack your DIY pump for whatever reasons through a security loophole, you are screwed.
It sucks, but someone's gotta pay the bill for minimizing errors and FDA approvals, because these are lives we are talking about and everyone of them is important and thus they are all very expensive to maintain to ensure near perfection.
J - near perfection? Mine failed after 2 weeks
Bet it's cheaper to buy a black market organ
ha, my insulin pump was 18,000
Gotta love how he shot himself: "It's like modifying your car"
So basically: "If you know what you are doing, you are safe."
Sounds good to me. :)
They only people who don't want you modifying your car are the car manufacturers.
I've modded every car I own lol
Exactly!
About to widebody my e82
@@cholodude97 e62
Medtronic probably has $20 in each unit but charges you $7000 for each unit.
$20 is being generous, probably more like $10
There cannot be more than 40$ of hardware in that thing, with a bulk manufacturing deal.
To say the equivalent of ''Don't get the affordable one, instead buy ours, regardless of your financial situation'' makes someone a bit of a death merchant...
The only reason they did this so quickly is to save their marketshare.
Every day we stray further from god
That's baseless
What a innovative company!!! There is no way they used the open source code to build this no way!!!! 🤡⬅️ CEO
“This has not been approved by the FDA”
FDA: *proceeds to make the exact same thing for a higher price*
I don't think it's the FDA that sets the prices, they only ensure that a system is safe to use for people and has a formal system and certificates for ensuring that.
The FDA didn't make it or set the price all they do is approve that it is safe
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 But how do you know the enterprise is not paying the people who say its safe from the FDA as a mean to make their product more attractive?... i mean corruption happens more often than we think so....
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 a okaay thanks
@@weakamna If random people can put together a pump that works in such scrappy conditions, then any of the millions of doctors making $200k-$400k/yr be able to easily get the FDA to approve a pump they made themselves. The FDA is the problem, they refuse to approve anything unless you spend hundreds of millions of dollars doing random BS, making it insanely expensive for us, but still too expensive of a process for other people to be willing to make an alternative.
7000$ for a fda closed loop insulin pump ..... GTFO
very greedy lol
The prices will go down, for sure. An open system probably means few patents holding things up. One day this will be as cheap as the basic pumps because they will be so ubiquitous.
@pizza Price actually they did find another product that did the same function for 150$
With the non-FDA approved version you still need a pump, CGM, and supplies so you're still not going to be in the cheap. Further, you have no warranty if it breaks. On a device your life depends on.
All about money
This journalist did an extremely thorough investigation, she did a great job sharing all of the different perspectives.
from 150 to 7k
and they really do be like "why are you running?"
in germany, your insurance would pay in full. and yet, the USA is still killing it's lowest income people.
"It's almost like modifying your car" I rather mod my own car than let some unknown wanker do it for me for 10x more money than its worth, or well, 65x more in this case lol
facts
I cannot believe they have big balls to do that to the device thst holds their lives. Id rather mod a car than mod a pump
@@jameeboo there are pumps in cars, you know?
@@jameeboo I’d rather have a more consistent blood sugar that allows me to live longer and take the small risk of an electronic screw up that hasn’t even occurred so far.
@@jameeboo I get where you're coming from, and the possibility of it faulting and dumping too much insulin is entirely a real thing, but you also probably don't have diabetes if this is your outlook.
This is the cost of *THE PUMP* , at 7,000$.. Nevermind the actual cost of the insulin per month, and guess what..
The pump you paid 7,000$ for has just as much margin for error, it can also stop feeding insulin.. It can also dump all of it. You're no safer. Lol
You realize that the FDA runs clinical trials to ascertain weather or not the system could fail; X amount of people at x amount of hours, here's x amount of faults, and then they take those numbers and they allow a certain percentage for "unavoidable fault".. That literally means "We can accept that *"this"* amount of people will be hurt, call it safe enough, and release the product.", so now, before these people even released their hack device blueprints, they went and held a research study of their own.
Guess what it entailed?
You're right. X amount of people, at x amount of hours, here's x amount of faults. Lol The only difference here is that these people aren't profiting off of your stupidity and hunger to quelled by a sense of comfort. "Daddy government said it was safe, so it must be safe!", which is true in a lot of cases. You usually are better off using regulated products..
But you can't forget that they also have that unavoidable fault statistic on literally everything they regulate.. And you'll never know if you're going to be in that percentage..
This would’ve saved my grandmothers life years ago.
Sorry man. I wish you are fine and as well as one can be in your situation this truly brought me to tears
R.I.P, sorry to hear that
I understand you're upset. I am upset too. Why doesnt every doctor inform their diabetes patients with this info?! I may loose limbs, or my eyesight, due to bad sugarlevel. I am so sorry that your grandmother even lost her life. The big companies are all about the money, not the people... 😔
I'm sorry to hear, can you tell us something nice about your grams? Then the memory can live on with others!
Lmao why would you tell this to strangers
Now the only question is:
Can it run DOOM?
Add an immersive feature where you die in the game you die in real life
If a ti84 plus ce can. So can this
@@alcejaylos.4257 hardcore difficulty
Can it run crysis?
Maaaaybe?
These people making this open source for everyone are incredible people. This is the real power of technology.
manufacturers: “hey what ur doing is risky”
manufacturing: *makes their own version*
Its not risky because it could malfunction. It's risky because its remotely controlled, instead of controlled onboard. If you can hack in and remote-control the pump, someone else could too. They're probably not saying it because they don't want to get sued for making hackable pumps
@@bassman9261995 I agree, it seems really sketchy on why you would need your **phone** to receive information via bluetooth from your glucose monitor to send instructions to your insulin pump. You're giving all the power to your phone to make all the decisions when you can simply have your glucose monitor connected to your insulin pump. I think it makes a lot more sense for your phone to just be a convenient device to monitor your health, and not something that directly controls your health. Connecting your personal health directly to the internet in general does not seem like a good idea. (Although I can't be for certain, perhaps there are some circumstances where it is beneficial)
You have to consider that most people are absolutely stupid.
Yeah. If someone who doesn't know what they're doing modifies the device they could break it and hurt themselves.
@@chadthundercocksexhaver3959 Nikola Tesla didn't discover A.C current
Big pharma: No! Don't use that! It can be dangerous!
Also big pharma: **rebrands and sells for 7000$**
But you guys let them abuse you.... its not their fault they can profiteer from someones life....you let them do it.
We just laugh at America, it is a 3rd World country. Its only 16 years ago that 1800 people lost their lives to Hurricane Katrina.
A 3rd World healthcare service, guns, and a drugs cartel, Mexico will soon be building a wall to keep you guys out...
@@berty1422 Yeah, it's also more of that anyone who can stop them, just helps them to get a cut of the profits and also the government won't actually do anything.
Honestly i'm glad i live in europe. It's not the best but it still sounds so much better than the hellhole americans have to deal with.
@@berty1422 “you guys let them abuse you” oh I see, we’ve switched to victim blaming wherever your from.
@@berty1422 Most sick people don't have the strength (both mental and physical) to fight those companys along side fighting their illnesses
im sorry i mustve missed the part where there people chose to have diabetes (type 1) where these people could just choose to boycott the insulin industry to make it better because they didnt "need" it or better yet just grow your own insulin right? the fact is yes the blame is some to be placed on the americans for being poor judges of character when it comes to electing their policey makers but the thing is these people cant afford to do anything that would actually hurt the companies because they cant LIVE without it.
Open Source is the one thing that stands between us and total dystopia
Meanwhile Europeans: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
Why? Those are all the same devices, moreover there is no way to buy some of the newer ones outside of the US.
@@vary01 yes but you wouldn’t have to pay for it in Europe and the industry wouldn’t try to stop it.
@@vary01 👆
"Is like modifying your car..." instead of taking the car to your enemy's mechanic
More like, the only mechanic in town that forces you to pay up or die
Modifying your car if your car didn't have break pedals in the first place.
Of course the pharmaceutical company's version costs $7,000... Thank goodness for those D.I.Yers!
House Stark I think the point he is trying to make is that it shouldn’t cost the consumers $7,000 in the first place.
@House Stark I really hope that you understood how this "hack" works.
House Stark while I agree that the FDA-regulated one is safer (mostly in regards to hacking issues) $7,000 is still marked up. It's not clinical trials. We know most of our meds are way too marked up, because they're sold in other countries for less. And only less than a year ago we had the problem with that one cancer drug (I believe it was cancer) that was marked up like 600% and practically no one could afford it. But the guy who made the decision didn't care, he just wanted the extra money.
House Stark You don't need an FDA approval to tell it's safe. All the FDA does is determine if the product is ready to be used to the public. I mean if people are gonna sell bootleg insulin pumps wouldn't it be quickly released to people as fast as possible to gain as much money as possible and hopefully getting away without the FDA catching up?
Thanks to socialized healthcare .. if there was any competitors with these companies prices would be a lot lower
This reminds me of a story I heard a while ago. A group of engineering student was pitching an idea to a pharmaceutical company and claimed that their idea can help cure a long lasting disease. The company replied that's great, but how is that a business idea?
Yeah, he's saying the same thing phone makers were saying about having outside sources fix your phone. They just passed a law saying essentially that was bs and we can take our phones somewhere else. Why can't they do the same thing here? Oh wait, I know, money.
#RightToRepair
It is disgusting how expensive pharma makes life saving medications and devices.
What's really disgusting is USA not having free healthcare for all
This isn't life saving. This just makes life easier.
@@NoNoseProduction Someone with diabetes would disagree with you buddy.
@@EdwardDragon96 I literally laughed out loud when I read their comment
@@EdwardDragon96 failed abortions usually disagree they are in fact what they are.
As a diabetic living in Sweden, I can’t imagine the money you have to spend to LIVE. I get everything for free, at least until I am 21. And after that I can only pay up to around $200 a month before its free. The fact that people have to go through this is unimaginably sad.
You're clearly just jealous of all of our freedom s/c
sweeden has freedom too
Have fun paying high taxes all your life
Sweden is extremely rich with lots of money and a small population so it wouldn’t be easy for some other countries to follow suit. But yeah it’s unbelievable how US healthcare system is like this
@@sethrawbass have fun watching your family members become homeless when they can't afford their hospital bills
And this, my friends, is why right to repair is so important and why big companies are fighting against it. The average person can do a lot more than they think when it comes to technology, don't let a lobbyist tell you otherwise.
It's sad when you realize how easy this could be invented years ago
God bless that family for sharing to the World their hacked Artificial Pancreas. Having had a relationship with an IDDM/Type 1 for almost seven years, I am so amazed by how advanced injecting has become. I hope that hacked system gets approved. Such gadget will save even more lives.
if god blessed them they wouldnt heve to deal with diabetes in the first place
Em Em - i know right
God blessed the little girl with wonderful and dedicated parents.
Em Em everyone faces something different in life. You don’t believe in God yet you expect only blessings like he owes you something.
@@The-Cat the Lord owes you nothing. Everybody has issues and has to deal with them. If you can't comprehend that, then you have a wrong image of G.D and don't understand/ignorant.
The “modifying your car” guy looks like your classic Disney villain
Lmao true, he's extremely expressive and making super quick body and facial gestures that are almost manic appearing. I thought he looked like someone out of speed racer or lupin.
Man can't even put up a real argument. Car mods are also something that people should be allowed to do
@@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 ya and it's like they sold you a car without a steering wheel and a gas button with one setting
His face is a little too animated.
It makes me so angry that the fda approved version is so expensive, just like insulin is in this country. Ugh.
diabetes legit in a pay to win mobile game
isnt better in europ / germany, insulin pumps are always expensiv bc they arent mass produced they are hand assemled and go threw thousends of quality controls if you finaly get your pump its save to say that is has a minimum live time of a few thousend hours just for testing
Shen, why do you sound so upset, mamita?
Instead of Bluetooth, I'd suggest using something more secure. Bluetooth is highly vulnerable and if someone gets access to it they basically have a person's life in their hands
I love how doctors think modifying you car is a bad idea Like really that’s the best you could come up with
it's not a doctor it's a spineless paid person
It's never the doctor buddy. Never.
My response is easy : if it is MY car where do YOU get off telling me what I can or cannot do to it if it will never pose a risk to those other than myself?
imagine studying 14 years just to squander your reputation with that ain't no way this is a doctor
Its like art/ natural selection, see what works and remove the mistakes.
Patient: "Doctor my insulin pump isn't working correctly"
Doctor: "Did you check if someone wrote something about it on stack overflow?"
i admit this is something i would do
and then you end up finding some idiots post that makes your pump randomly start pumping at max capacity until it has emptied the reservoar...
@@rasmuskp93 OUCH
@@rasmuskp93 makes your sugar level graph spell out “lol”
Lol
The fact that people had to hack this together on their own in the first place, and the fact that the proprietary "approved" version that copied the idea costs $7,000 vs $150 for the hacked version, that just says so much about the health care industry. Someone once asked my why I'm not signed up as an organ donor. I have no health insurance, my organs are worth more than my life.
That dude didn't know what he was talking about. Their engineering team literally used the open-source project and added some quality of life changes and activated army of lobbyist
FDA certified system $7000 with threat "you're GONNA DIE with your DIY system !" even thought people are getting healthier with $150 DIY
@CheckAvability Well written code I assume.
@CheckAvability Any device can malfunction including a $7000 FDA approved one.
@CheckAvability 7000 bucks "FDA certified" doesn't mean the pump will never malfunction.
it is called insurance
The resources and development that went jnto this device do not warrant a 7,000 dollar price tag.
"it's almost like modifying your car" uh no, it's because you want to make your 7k per unit...the DIY is way cheaper at 150/200 $
Hence the reason why they are also trying to close the back door on the new devices as well.
EDIT: Thanks for all the thumbs up and comments!
What a weird analogy lol
Yup, also why you can build a Mustang for
Lol is there something wrong with modifying your car? You can make it go faster!
It's more like Tesla preventing you from repairing your own car
@@shimes424 very true
"if you're going to add additional risk!"
Well...maybe if your company acted quicker to fill a need, or didn't rely on archaic technology to milk people for money, these people wouldn't _be forced_ to modify medical equipment for not only ease of use but for better quality of life.
Do no harm, aye?
Make sure you support right to repair; to protect DIY solutions like this
I'm all for free markets but 7k for a life-saving device to fix a chronic disease? I thought the reason for a government to exist was to care of it's citizens since a healthy worker is a productive one.
ajkdhsalfgnewidpcvjcjqd8w9agvespfld]j cmkpiwsgxq having to get FDA approval is not free markets its just big pharma blocking out competition
just a note: most jobs help you pay your insurance (you get lower rates or they are included in the benefitst) so technically if you have a job, you don't have to pay the 7k. Regardless, having to pay 7k is ridiculous
Transferring costs to the taxpayer or your employer is not making those costs go away. And if markets are efficient, every dime that machine goes down will result in increased insulin prices and supply prices. Sorry to have to be the bearer of an economics lesson, but prices are not a function of costs besides the most basic level of setting a price floor. The total cost of diabetes will always and only reflect one thing: what the buyer is willing to pay.
Ella Parks This whole video is about the variety of companies competing in this field. So... it’s not that there is a monopoly or no competition. What there is is graft and regulation. It costs billions to bring these things to market, and that’s not Johnson & Johnson’s fault! :D
Yeah and don't forget the almost 300 dollar bottle of insulin that goes in it.
Finally somebody making something for everybody not just the people that can afford it
The wonders of Open initiatives!
We do this with sooooo many things. This isn’t something new. Theres always someone out there that will program better than the actual company will.
the "Dr" is literally reading off his computer 🤣
yeah just being a diabetic and knowing how it works and how pumps/sensors work
and alanlyzing / looking a bit closer will reveal a lot of flaws in this video and the soooooooo good pump system
just look at 3:20 and 3.22 she litterly switches from the 24hr overview to the 6hr one so you have a shorter amount of time stretched over a larger area so the graph smoothens out
its also cut/ edited in order to do this so maybe they just intensonayl showed a bad day and compared it to a good 6 hr
i mean i have diabetes typ 1, i dont have a pump and my blood shuger is in the target area most of the time (definetly looks better then any blood shuger shown in this video)
A $150 diy hack
Fda - THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DANGEROUS
$7000 brick that does exactly the same thing
Fda - this is fine
well, the hacked version sends radio signal to the old devices, what if there is someone with the same diabetes walking around and you adjust their pump. whoops someone died. but yeah 7000 is way to much for the technologie. but i bet those thing would cost a lot less in other countries.
The hack _is_ dangerous. And I'd bet the $7000 brick is as well, but at least it's not tethered to a cellphone, RPi, and a flaw in a decade old pump that allows an external source to tell it doses. As she points out herself, this house of cards doesn't always stay together.
@@karel3112 In the graphics, it looks like it's using bluetooth. By no means a safe system, if ever there were such a thing, but one that you can't interface with accidentally, which precludes 99,9% of the dangers. Additionally, if it's set up properly, you actually need physical access to the device to tether a new controller to it, making it even safer. But the danger is always there, that there's some technological bug that makes the system go haywire, which obviously can be really dangerous.
The question is, will there ever be a point at which we're significantly safer than that? I don't think so, honestly. You'd need redundant secondary and tertiary sensors, at which point it becomes a massive hassle to deal with.
@@xxhellspawnedxx i'm not thinking" what if someone with the same pump picks up"your" bluetooth signal and "their" pump gets adjusted", I'm thinking,what if someone had malicious intent? People steal cars with bluetooth, and more... whats the range on the "radio signal"/bluetooth pumps?even w laws in place(?), the damage is already done :c
I like the physical access idea though.
People do bad things like stealing cars, because they want some sort of profit or reward from it ( like the item itself or the money, if they sell it). There is not much to gain from manipulating pumps, other than harming people. So the usual thief or bad guy have most likely no interest in that.
"... not tested by the FDA" - Completely and utterly false statement. The FDA DOES NOT TEST. It reviews and approves/rejects submissions. In these submissions is testing by the owner(s) of the technology.
It's not false then! Just misleading.
it means it hasnt been reviewed dimwit
Same thing dude. If you review it, then you have just tested it. Just like driving a car. Reviewing a new car is the same as test driving a new car. Same thing.
Sooo... basically, bribing?
@@KOTYAR0 The FDA and big Pharma are in bed together.
I really misinterpreted this title. I thought someone was going around hacking people's devices and basically killing them
Yeah, people need to start titling things correctly. They're literally putting blame on victims doing weird stuff like this. These people are out here literally SURVIVING American health care.
It’s a shame that we could’ve elected leaders that would’ve put restraints on the pharmaceutical industry but chose not to.
propaganda postpones progress.
Are you kidding? Our leaders are profiting from it! The corporate sector is giving politicians large donations on a regular basis to let them do whatever they want to. They essentially bribe their way to screwing over sick Americans.
@@angelus_solus I’m aware. The democrats call these people socialist and the republicans call them communists, and anyone who is elected from a different party gets scrutinized by both sides because money talks.
Maybe if we got dark money out of politics, it would be a lot easier to pass legislation
@@Charlie_Loves That's kinda the plan lol
Lol, builts a 5 dollars device, pulls some strings to get it "approved" and then sales it for 7000 dollars to "help"
Aww such a kind and warm heart, even jesus christ would be touched
He is rewriting the Bible
He is the Messiah.
“It’s a lot like hacking your car..”
Let me stop you right there, Chet, because people do that to pretty great effect.
the only time i hear negative stuff about car modifications is when they get arrested for it😂
people don’t wanna ruin their car while modifying it, people also don’t want to ruin their bodies to modify it
@@jaidathompson3478 Evidently some people are willing to take that chance which, IMO, says plenty of awful things about the US healthcare system.
@@WorldsOkayestSorcerer in america if you’re not born into middle class or above its like die or be poor concerning health conditions
@@WorldsOkayestSorcerer all thanks to the lovely art of *lobbying*
@@jaidathompson3478 I’m squarely middle class, having escaped from abject poverty, raised by a single mom working two jobs; and lemme tell ya, the insurance ain’t any better the two or three rungs I got up on the ladder, ma’am. In fact, it seems to have gotten worse.
I remember as a kid in school my friend had type 1 diabetes, and every day he would be called out of class to the matron to get an injection. I never understood why as a kid, sometimes we used to pick on him since as dumb kids we don't know the difference between type 1 and type 2.
The fact that this feature wasn't pre-programmed into the pumps is disgusting and I hope manufacturers for all medical products can have more consideration for the patient and carers in the future.
"It's like modifying your car"
Reminds me of that old mechanic who made his engine run on nothing but water and logs. Yeah, logs. You can guess who was a concerned buch of companies who accused him of all mortal sins.
On March 21, 1998, Meyer was having lunch at a Cracker Barrel with his brother and two potential Belgian investors. The four clinked their glasses to toast their commitment to uplifting the world, but after taking a sip of his cranberry juice, Meyer clutched his throat, sprang to his feet, and ran outside. Rushing after him, his brother Stephen found him down on his knees, vomiting violently. He quickly muttered his last words, “They poisoned me.”
That guy?
How is that supposed to work in the modern days though?
Having a simple steam engine in your car that needs to be fired with wood isn‘t really practical.
You‘d need to carry tons of wood with you for that to work in the long run.
@@blacky_Ninja The “running on logs” idea has nothing to do with steam engines: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator Just sayin’.
(Also not saying that such a WW2 era idea could be useful or practical nowadays - that’s just not the case.)
@@AndrejPodzimek
Oh, ok sorry, my bad.
Never heard of that one.
So it‘s made into biogas which makes a lot more sense to use in vehicles then.
Thanks for clearing that up. 😅
Sounds to me like Medtronic knew how to do this a while ago, and didn’t release it until people found a way to get around their current systems flaws.
One of the biggest thing that prevented it before was an accurate continuous glucose monitoring system. The CGM tells the pump what you bs is so that it can give you the required insulin. Reliable CGMs have only been around for the past few years.
Medtronic has been working with the FDA to get increasingly advanced systems approved. Their biggest hurdle has been that until recently the accuracy of their CGM had sucked. Most diyers are using Medtronic pumps and Dexcom (a Medtronic competitor on the CGM scene) CGMs.
Yeah but the FDA wont approve it. Blame it on them. They will restrict certain things and also insurances as well where they wont pay for the system.
They most likely knew about it but they have to do a lot of testing. It usually takes about 5 years to fully come up with a new pump and get it approved by the FDA. Having a pump be able to automatically adjust your insulin could potentially be very dangerous so they have to do a lot of research and testing on it to make sure it is safe. For that system to work you would need to have a newer CGM because the old ones were not very accurate and having your pump give you insulin based on an inaccurate BG reading could cause lots of highs and lows and be dangerous to your life
velvet123 they won’t approve it because they want to make sure some random open source is 100% safe
Dude wtf I live in finland and we've had this for so long but you don't need to hack anything. I have a pump that does everything itself...
Yeah, I though this whole video was weird. I am not diabetic, but I am pretty sure my diabetic friends has been using auto-insulin pumps for like 10+ years in Scandinavia.
Same. I’m not diabetic but I think this is a things in Australia without all the hacking
This is a strictly USA problem. Money over lives.
Fulinland is amazing...
some of us are broke, Emerald
Omg. 7k for a medtronic auto pump vs a 150 dollar customizeable one?? That's a no brainer right there.
it is like modifying your car...yes it also costs as much as one too
the diy kit costs 150 not the pump itself the old medtronic pump probably also costs 5k-7k
This is amazing! Love open source! Reminds me of when the owner of Volvo made the Three Point Seatbelt and never patented it so all car companies could use. He just wanted to save lives, just like these programmers and hackers. Absolutely amazing.
We literally have these in the UK? Hypo-unaware patients are given these + a monitor linked to phone for free? Why is America's healthcare system so bad?
Because it's all about the money. Big pharma only care about the money
Money my guy
Because in the UK, any medical breakthrough, big or small literally helps the system and saves the entire country money because of how incredible the countries health system is, in the USA, curing something costs money, it isn't right... please never take your NHS for granted, the British people are generally super healthy and happy because they have a healthcare system that was literally designed with them in mind, as far as I know only the UK, Canada, South Korea and Japan have a system like that which was actually made to benefit the everyday person (probably more but those are the famous examples), it's a gift, cherish it.
Because you pay more taxes
@@C-64 nobody in the UK complains about paying more taxes for the NHS, most people are more than happy to
Our 7 year old daughter was hit in a hit in run by a drug dealer right before the pandemic, December 2019. We didn’t know she had type 1 yet, and the trauma of the accident triggered her first episode and sent her into a coma. She spent 4 days on a ventilator and was presumed brain dead for sometime. She’s since made a near full recovery, she still has diabetes and some stress/mental issues, like a fear of falling asleep since she’s worried she might not wake up again, another coma; but overall, she is much better. I took advantage of my work closing during the pandemic and I returned to school to finish my degree and devote the rest of my life to working on a cure. I’m in the molecular and cellular biology program.
Wishing you best of luck! Hope you manage to find a cure ❤️
Have you looked into Crispr technology for a cure?
That sucks bro
I wish you the best of luck in your research, and your daughters health!
Hope you find a cure, but when you do please make it go public before you are shut up by the government or big pharma, please.
"Make a DIY car"
No, I think its more of a swapping the ram card
$100 DIY. $7,000 "The DIY is DANGEROUS" *Wiggles fingers Spookily*
That guy couldnt have made it more obvious that he’s never even opened the hood on his car once
"Its a bit like modifying your car" Oh so basically completely safe if you can follow basic directions and increasing functionality? I'm not seeing the downside that guy was trying to point out.
LOL no joke, the dude is just into making money off "legal" drugs, they aren't smart at all when it comes to practical things in the world.
Was literally thinking the same thing. My girlfriend is a type 1 and I like to watch think type of content for her.
Lol
@@MyBrothersMario welding an exhaust is basic now ?
1918: I bet there will be flying cars in the future!
2018: diabetics are making their own insulin pumps
1918: What's a diabetic?
tweetyericsson didn't say they knew, they just wanted flying cars man
1918: I bet people will come up with original jokes and ideas in the future!
2018:
Except the pump was made by a company that spent hundreds of millions on R&D......
Tbh this is better than flying cars
Watched this two years ago before diabetes. Now, with my fresh t1d diagnosis, I see how cool this is!
The industry always knew that they could help people better but there wouldn't be enough money in it. Shame on them and BRAVO to the brave people that figured this out.
I’ve been using the system described for 1.5 years and it’s much better than anything commercially available.
lsulsu yeah right the Medtronic 670g/ cgm might be expensive but it works better and isn’t made in a garage. I wouldn’t want that thing controlling my bg
@@hendog5396 if u have the experience of makin them then y not, better then wasting 7k on something that only cost 50-100ish to make lol FDA kits still comes with bugs, and if anyone thinks something is "bug" free is insane lol.
MTG: Fatal Push I guess if someone really wants to risk it, they can. I never would, but to each his own :/. In my experience I haven’t had any bugs with the pump it’s self but quite a few with the cgm.
Hendog this is open source
Hendog anyone can contribute lmao
god, the fact that allowing people to do this hack was considered a "flaw" and was "fixed" makes me so mad.
The professor is a genius. He helps people!
Give him a job in R&D, so this toxic thread can harass him with "big pharma."
Everyone born post 2000: "what's a beeper?"
I think fixing your car is better than buying a new one.
Especially when buying the new car is about 4600% more expensive.
Also buying a more expensive car
This is not fixing, it's converting it into an airplane.
You shouldnt try to fix your car if you know nothing about your car....
You might also say "you can look up everything you need to fix your car on the internet" the actual scenario here is life or death.... i wouldnt chalk it up to what the internet has to say about keeping me alive.
"It's almost like modifying your car". Yeah it's like taking a 1970 Challenger and replacing the inefficient carburetor with an electronic fuel injection system. Ya know something that can also adjust itself automatically.
It took this long for someone to be like hey, instead of being reactive to imbalances, why not be proactive and prevent the problem from even happening? Something tells me the medical industry doesn't actually want this bc it's essentially a better fix that'll most likely be healthier and cheaper.
2035: Man accidentally kills hundreds with signal jammer
LMAO
"It's almost like modifying your car."
You mean like how car guys mod their cars to have more horsepower and/or run at increased fuel efficiency, therefore catering their property to their specific needs? Yeah, real dangerous.
That was a really stupid thing to compare is too. Was the guy even trying to persuade you not the mod a pump?
I would rather mod my car for 2K than pay for a new car with the same mod for 20K
Hahahaha cylinder 6 goes brrrrrr
This is a good example why American healthcare system is the worst in the world.
jholotan best and yet the American system brings about the MOST innovation within healthcare in the world and people COME TO America for healthcare because their “FREE” healthcare can’t give them the treatment they NEED or maybe want. Yeah, sooo bad. 🙄
@@brianlofton2489 Well I think the purpose of the healthcare system is to server citizens not to be innovative. And American healthcare is objectivity the worst compared to what it costs. If you are not in the top 10 percent American healthcare sucks. And I have never heard of anyone going to US for healthcare but I can imagine that some exorbitantly rich may do so but in grand scheme of things that is irrelevant.
@@brianlofton2489 I like how you defend a system that hyper inflates costs of treatment, gives you a poor level service and cancels your treatment if you go over your Bronze package limits. Hey, Got a pre-existing condition? Cancelled! Smoker with a broken ankle? Cancelled! Didn't put a period or capital letter in the right place? Cancelled! Can't afford our treatment? GTFO onto the streets ya Bum! You can't afford to die in here!
Yet in the UK there isn't a value put on your treatment, no-one is refused treatment and no-one needs to take out a mortgage to pay for it and no-one suffers either medically nor financially. WHO ranks the USA at 37th place in world healthcare and the UK as 18th place. Statistics paint the greatest picture Brian. We get the treatment we NEED and it isn't "Free" as you put it, I pay around $125 a month for National Insurance which covers me for EVERYTHING. Broken finger? No problem. Heart attack? No problem! Car accident? No problem! Cancer Treatment? No problem! And I can rest assured that I won't have any bills which can cause a heart attack. Even if I lose my job I will still get the same level of treatment as I would if I still had the job. Again, NO BILLS! Walk in, get treatment and walk straight out.
@@brianlofton2489 Honestly, the US innovation argument is wrong - true that the US is ONE of the most innovative countries in the world, but it isn't that much different from other rich countries when looking at true innovation results. That is innovation input vs. innovation output, so basically bang for your buck. The US being the 3rd most populous country in the world with 328 million people (4.3% of all the people on Earth) as well as being a rich country, it's only natural that the most visible results come from the US. That doesn't mean the US is "the best" - it's just the most prolific for the same reason as I mentioned above.
As for people travelling to the US - that's mostly for experimental treatments or treatments that require highly specialist equipment that can't be economically viable in a country with maybe 4 - 10 million people (which is around the population numbers you see in many European countries). For example really expensive equipment to treat some type of rare cancer where a country with 10 million people would only have maybe 50 patients a year compared to over 1600 of such patients in the US, where the US maybe has only 3 such treatment centers.
I have a rare, but benign type of endocrine tumor called a pheochromocytoma on one of my adrenal glands. I am to have it removed in a few months for "free". There are only around 10 removed a year in the country I live in (Denmark), so there is only one hospital in the entire country where they have the experience to remove such a tumor. It wouldn't make sense to have such procedures done in every hospital in the country, because it would be a risk to the patients to spread out the knowledge when you can concentrate it in one place. These things can be problems in small(er) countries, where in the US it would make sense to have more treatment centers for this particular problem.
Except you would have died waiting for outdated healthcare when I can walk in the hospital with my insurance and walk out within a few hours with modern technology and treatments
You bet your ass I'd be doing the same thing in these people's situations if I couldn't afford $7,000 for the "approved" version. Patients have every right to treat their illnesses as they see fit.
why is the title giving off a rebellious connotation lmao
They’ve basically re-invented fuel injectors on a car but for their body
Here's hoping it goes mainstream.
It should be mandatory for all medical devices to be open source.
People won't like it once they get hacked into with that smart or rather moron phone.
@@PatrickBaptist Yes, they're bug and holes. At first, but look at the the security in the longevity. Open versus closed source. Open source always wins. This device is an extension of the human body. It should be a fundamental right to understand how it works. Especially for the people who use it and depend on it daily/hourly.
Ryan Jardina no, everyone could search for safety gaps and..do non-good stuff
Sounds like the stupidest idea ever especially since most diabetics are your average person that knows nothing about any of that
dontlikemath -.- if they can do non good stuff when it’s open source they can do non good stuff with closed source.
It’s just harder to find those non good things with closed source, but obscurity is not security.
The devices would be safer in the long run if they are open source.
This is really good, I am a big fan of open source software and this is one of the best things about it. It's free, you can read the source, it's all there. So that anybody can contribute to it, report issues, and make stuff work really good.
This is amazing! But it must be so hard to find those old devices now!