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Donald Glover ,one of the most talented brothers in the industry , said that the producer of "30 Rock" proudly told him he was a DEI hire and he said he spent the next 5 years insecure wondering if he actually belonged there.
I recommend you go watch Pink Book Lessons take on this issue. This time I'm baffled by your remarks. This is crazy. We NEED to move back towards MLK Jr's dream for our country. We need to take race and gender off of all applications unless there's an issue where your job requires certain physical strengths. Nepotism and legacy are NOT only used by white people, btw!!!
😂 I don’t know about the rest of the people because I can’t read their minds but DEI hire has always meant to me that people get hired based on the color of skin and gender. Not sure where the new N word came into play. DEI goes along with the belief that whites are born racist so we better get other skin colors in working for big gov. 😂 this whole racist b.s. will never f-ing end. So tired of the b.s.
I gonna have to disagree with you on this one. DEI isn't a slur against black people or minorities for jobs. It's literally companies outright saying that they want diversity over merit. I as a black man have never once benefitted from DEI, and I know a lot of white people who have been constantly looked over for jobs and admission to higher education because there were "too many of them" and most of them were worse off financially than the minority students and job applicants that applied for those schools and jobs. People are just calling out companies and organizations on what they've been openly admitting to do for the past few years. Vivek Ramaswamy getting called a DEI hire most likely had to do with his position on the H1B visa issue when it came to mostly jobs in tech and in other fields, companies would abuse the visa system in order to import labor from other countries for half of the pay they would've had to if they hired an American who had already gone to school and was trained for those jobs. Since that dust up on twitter started, Ive heard countless stories from people who either got their position terminated or rebranded or just being plain looked over for someone from another country companies can bring in and pay for lower salaries. When he said that, He also called Americans lazy and entitled, saying that they watch too much Saved By The Bell and Boy Meets World and Vivek lost a lot of the goodwill he built up with the American people over the past two years with his run for office for saying he'd rather hire abroad then hiring Americans for those jobs. Although I thought he made some good points with his post, he missed the mark in thinking that all Americans have gotten entitled, there's plenty of millennials and Gen Z who have no problem working hard for their future and are not caught up in what the latest TikTok trends are, they had valid concerns for someone like Vivek who claimed to be America First. Also you have to understand that we're in the year 2025, this isn't the 1950's where there was a lot of legal discrimination against black people and other minorities in the form of Jim Crow laws. If a group is being underepresented in a job position, sport, entertainment, etcetera, it more often than not has to do with that group not having a ton of interest in those fields to begin with. Nobody really cares about a lack of diveristy when it comes to sports like Hockey, Lacrosse and Golf outside of Tiger Woods.
DEI does more harm to people's reputation as a merit well earned person than it does good. I don't care when i see people saying that when they see a black dr, a lesbian firefighter even though i'm a black woman myself, because for 1 it's not completely coming from nowhere, 2 the left gave them reason to talk the way they do, and 3 all the people who accepted their DEI positions made it happen by being the tokens accepting jobs they know they don't deserve when they literally saw that they were looking to hire people only based on their identity. I've never been one to yell at people for pointing and laughing when they see a circus, yell at the performers not the spectators.
In my humble opinion, I find this argument is a tactic for black folks especially, to remain in victim mode. We need to focus on improving and raising standards in our community. So many children in the public schools can not read at grade level and beyond, we are unhealthy and our music is trash these days. When I heard DEI hire, it was refered to Kamala Harris, who admittedly was a DEI hire who was hired by Joe Biden because she was a woman, and who did a disgraceful job at representing professional women and Indian Women with her inability to answer questions or explain points; it was embarassing. Karrine Jean Pierre is included in this mess as well. We can not let words or the internet keep us from greatness. If you have a great product, it will sell regardless of said diversity. I believe that success is based on the indivdual integrity to present a superior product, experience, thought or idea not on skin color. (Example, Rihanna's Fenty brand)
Some people get so caught up with their own good intentions and 'doing the right thing' that they don't stop to actually take into consideration the possible consequences of their actions. That or they think that their ends justify the means. I'm not sure which is worse. Misguided either way.
As a Black tech professional turned entrepreneur, I've seen both sides. In 2018, I earned my corporate role through technical merit and presentation skills. By 2020, I witnessed a shift: demographic targets began overshadowing performance standards. The tipping point for me? Hearing colleagues openly say they felt immune from performance reviews due to diversity metrics. While 'DEI hire' can be weaponized as a slur, we need honest dialogue about building diverse teams without compromising excellence.
Honestly some hires are indeed that….a DEI hire., because they are minorities. That is the truth. And there are people that get jobs just because of their race, gender etc. So there are situations where it is the truth to call someone a DEI hire. DEI doesn’t automatically mean black people.
And it's annoying how she's showing a clip of Kamala being talked about when Kamala herself only got chosen for vice president because Biden said he wanted a black woman, he told people that he was seeking women of color who were also LGBT then all of a sudden Karine Jean Pierre came into the picture. Where is her misplaced anger coming from when she knows that?
Whoa - I think this is the first time I've disagreed with you. I literally think it means that a person who has demonstrated that they don't have the competences and were obviously hired due to some immutable characteristic (or they checked a box for their employer). Is the term being misused? Absolutely. The L.A. mayor is NOT a DEI hire ffs. It's unfortunate, because the intent of AA and DEI is noble - the unintended consequences are tragic (like having to work doubly hard, or wondering if you were selected for reasons other than merit) DEI was misused and now we are seeing the backlash.
Personally i find her talking points annoying. She knows that many of the people she's talking about were specifically hired because of their race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation, their bosses and organization boast about it, they love shouting about how they do it, they lecture us about how it's a good thing.... Why is she whining about things like this when the people making the comments know in many cases, that they're right? They might say it as an insult, but in many cases the people they specifically talk about is very much that, a DEI hire. If they don't want to be called a DEI hire, then maybe they should stop taking positions they know they don't qualify for and that they reached out to them advertising that they're looking for people in their demographic.
DEI includes disabilities. I have a disability. It is more difficult for me to acquire a job. I need to look for programs that accept me. It's tougher.
I like you, and have listened to many of your videos. I am a black woman and a Registered Nurse, and this is my views, my opinions on DEI hires. I do NOT care what color, race the person is, I go by the qualifications of the person. As long as you have passed the exams, have the degree (s), license, a good character, critical thinking skills, and can do the job with grace under pressure, then the person should get the job. President Biden and VP Harris proved to be very incompetent. VP Kamala is was a DEI hired, President Biden should not have been President, and looking back, I believe that the election was stolen from President Trump. I voted for Biden because he has been a politician for decades, and I thought that he would have secured the borders like his boss --- President Obama did. Then the truth was hidden from the American people about President Biden's mental and cognitive decline. The Supreme Court judge that cannot answer the question, "what is a woman?" , should not have gotten the job. First, I believe that she knows what a woman is, because she is a woman. However, if she had told the truth and facts, I think that she thought that she would NOT have gotten the job, so I believe that she was not being truthful in answering that question. Personally, base on that, she should not have gotten the job. The mayor in California proved to be ineffective and incompetent, and the governor also, they should not have their jobs. I would not want a Black RN, or a white RN or a Asian RN etc getting a job in the hospital because of his or her color or race. The RN has to be qualified. I do not see DEI as the new N word or F word. Get the qualifications and be a critical thinker, have a good reputation, character and you should get the job. I am aware that some employers maybe racist and then that is a hard fight to get the job, but do not give up. In my opinion if a lawyer, judge, doctor, nurse, police, politician etc does NOT know what a woman is and what a man is, then that person should not be in a position to make decisions and laws. I care about facts, biological facts, not people's feelings. If a person has delusions, there are medications and treatment- psychiatrists to deal with that. Let's be adults, be honest, truthful and recognize that there are only two sexes or genders. I do not care what adults do sexually behind closed doors, just do not insist that sane people go along with their delusions and nonsense.
Amen, sister! I watched Kamala throughout the campaign and saw that she wasn't very smart. She tried to be intelligent but ended with word salads. The press secretary for Biden did not come off well either.
Same, i'm a black woman and i don't get offended, others give them reasons to believe what they believe, so why would i get upset. I know it's said as an insult to be called a DEI hire, but that insult didn't just come from nowhere.... And if the left is so proud of their DEI programs then they shouldn't take it as a frikin insult! Take that insult with a damn smile.
Wait I thought you were joking about “DEI hire” being a slur for a second. Nobody gets called that more than Kamala, who is not of African descent. So how is the term related to race? 🤔 Ima have to disagree with this video but I respect your right to your opinions
I associate DEI with giving someone a job to meet quotas. Just like affirmative action, which came before it, I never wanted to be associated with it. I want my qualifications and work to speak for themselves.
To all those crying “DEI HIRE!”, imagine having a leg up on people for decades. Decades of nepotism and legacy hires and good old boy hires that didn’t earn it. Decades of knowing you are a perfect fit for a position but then not even being considered because the name on your application reads “DeShawn Williamson” or some other “non-white” name. Or having the credit for all your hard work stolen for decades or the raise that you earned stolen and given to some undeserving person because they were white and of course you weren’t allowed to speak up for fear of losing your job. Which plays a huge in the wealth gap between white and black folks. Such gall you have to run your mouths about someone being a DEI hire after you’ve unashamedly have left us decade after decade in such disparity. STFU
It's not a slur. I work in a law office. Someone was hired to work on my team and this person was a DEI hire. This person had no experience or background in this particular field or in law at all. My supervisor even told us they had interviewed someone for this job who had worked in this field but in a different capacity. That person was not hired. This unqualified person was instead. I know why, and two POC who work with me also felt that this person was a DEI hire. This person also ended up not liking the position and quitting and also had an attitude.
@daisydoodle98 If this person was so woefully unqualified why hire them DEI or not? Basically, you set that person up for failure. I don’t understand why a law firm would do that.Was the person a DEI hire or was it something else like nepotism?
@JR-ev8ce I didn't hire them. My manager did. I hated working with this person and I was glad when they quit. It was not nepotism, although that has happened here and it p*ssed me off too. You don't understand why a law firm would have hired this person even though he was unqualified? DEI. They were hired because they were Black.
DEI created more women becoming firefighters. Most women aren't strong enough to become firefighters. If a woman can do the same tasks as a man, then great-become a firefighter! But I don't think it's sexist if women aren't hired as firefighters. I've heard several programs have lowered their requirements so women can do them. I've also heard many women getting picked over a male applicant. If a woman cannot lift a 200-pound person, it puts the person at risk, the woman at risk, and the woman's coworkers at risk. The coworkers end up helping because she cannot do it alone. That's not fair to anyone. If I'm dying in a fire or in an accident, I don't care who saves me. That's one of the issues with DEI, and there are so many more!
I find many flaws with your argumment. One, is that you are assuming all white people are rich and have connections in high places. Just because the majority of the US 10%ers are white doesn't make the majority of white people 10%ers. The kid that gets screwed over is a kids that has top grades, comes from a average salary earning parents and is WHITE. That kid has a snowballs chance of getting into an ivy league school. I know you don't come from an American heritage, but our ethos is based on being judged by our merits and not the color of our skin or our economical background. Discrimination is alive and well in the workforce and it is not in favor of the average white kid. Try being white and getting a government job without prior military service. It ain't happening. And BTW, I can be considered a DEI hire. And I wish it didn't exist, because I know I have earned my merits. And I will continue to earn them after it is gone. Discrimination is discrimination and you can't fight perceived discrimination with blatant discrimination.
Guys, she said she's not talking about the people that were hired just for their race/gender/sexuality, she's saying because of those DEI people now some will look at a minority working and just assume they're a DEI hire and say that to invalidate them. In some ways she's calling out DEI hiring and how its hurt the reputation of all of minorities. Looking at the comments I feel like so many people watching your channel assume you're republican and love what you have to say until it somehow could be taken as "woke". I for one love how balanced your content is and that you call out people pulling the race card and playing the victim but also talk about the other side of it, like weaponizing the DEI term. Independents are my favorite people to listen to as they don't have an immediate narrative to jump to! I don't always agree with what you have to say, but find you a lot less biased and more balanced than other people in this country I hear from. Sending support as always
I really enjoy your channel, but I've got to disagree that using the expression, "DEI hire," is synonymous with the N word. It is used to describe people the "terminology user" thinks was hired not based on the "DEI hire"'s ability/qualification but based on what basically amounts to a Govt "suggested" quota for DEI. It was a huge gaslight by business to curry favor with the Govt. That is clear with the quantity of businesses dismantling their DEI programs.
IMO, it comes down to this: If you **lead** with your secondary characteristic (Black, Gay, woman, trans, etc) when talking about your achievement - it kinda begs the label of a DEI hire. Is it REALLY that important to have to advertise your sexuality when you get promoted? When you lead with "Shelly is " and demand everyone celebrate that one facet over the merit she/he achievedm... Well, people will look to that being a DEI hire.
Yes, I absolutely ABSOLUTELY agree with that! I look at Kamala Harris and the fact that everyone highlighted the fact that she was a black woman. People started saying, "I want a black female president" So, naturally, that's what people started focusing on.
As someone who fits into one of those minority groups (gay and female), I've got to strong disagree that it is just a new slur. DEI hire means a person who has demonstrated that they don't have the competences and were obviously hired due to some immutable characteristic (or they checked a box for their employer). The problem we have from that is if people can't confirm whether someone is competent or not, we wonder if they were a DEI hire. We no longer assume that someone in a group that benefit from DEI got it solely based on merit. Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. So we wonder. Does it suck? Yes. I would hate for people to think I was a DEI hire but I get it. That makes DEI problematic though, not the people wondering or calling it out. Even those in DEI groups wonder. I certainly do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out. The only way to stop it is to go back to hiring based on merit. Not gender, sexuality, colour... any of them. If a group can't compete on merit, then invest to ensure they're getting the right education. However also accept some groups will just never be able to compete on merit (female firefighters for example)or they simply don't want the jobs (women not wanting to be truck drivers) Complaining about people highlighting DEI hires however doesn't do any good.
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A DEI hire is someone who is completely unqualified for the job but got it anyway because of race or gender. That is a fact and take it any way you want.
Being a dei doesn’t make you immediately unqualified. Just because there are quotas doesn’t mean they hired any random minority.
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@zoella2349 When you lower standards to fill a quota becuse you want a particular kind of person it is not unreasonable to question if that person is qualified, and if you lower standards unqualified people will be hired. You sound like Don Lemon.
@ keyword is maybe, but you don't know if they are less or more qualified than others. The problem is people see anyone, not a white man and already believe you didn't earn your spot. DEI doesn't mean they picked some random person. So is it not understandable that calling minorities including disabled, dei hires almost makes it become a slur/insult?
how do you know the standard was lowered though? Unless a company said they did, you don't know. Do you consider the standards lowered when there are too many minorities? Idk how you can't see how problematic it is that you question whether all non-whites could be qualified enough to have the job and then defend your prejudice by blaming it on your perceived notion of dei. DEI wouldn't exist in the first place if there wasn't workplace discrimination in the first place. I'm just trying to make you understand the other perspective, and if this makes me sound like Don lemon idc.
I am Hispanic and work at a nonprofit, and from my experience DEI has been used to hire LGBTQ+ white women. I don’t agree with the lady saying conservatives have made the face of DEI black people/minorities. I believe Democrats sold it to the public like that, and it is the reason why everyone else associates it that way. But at the end of the day blacks have become the least beneficiary.
DEI is just rebranded Affirmative Action. There is a term used today called "luxury beliefs." Generally its considered cool for an middle to upper class person to support social justice ideas as if they can be applied to everybody and they should fix some of the problems in society. However, when these ideas are actually applied, we find they really don't bring the intended results. For example, "defunding the police." It really has no application in middle to upperclass neighborhoods. But in lower income and poor neighborhoods, they actually have a need for more police services.
This was literally my exact thought when she said that I’m like no the dems have said it over and over again so now when republicans say it and maybe do overuse it they get blamed but the dems are the ones who made it look a certain way
@@bromack3 Totally agree! I live in NYC and I have to live everyday with these socially conscious laws, Defund the police and soft on crime policies have ruined my community. Everything sounds good in theory but is a disaster when applied.
Very interesting observation my Bahamian gyal. Alot of your fans that tend tool always agree with you, suddenly dont agree with you....Wow! Critical thinking is so lacking these days ...They are so busy being caught up where you said DEI is used to represent black people, when in fact most black people didnt benefit from it. As a blackman, I ve never benefited from it. In fact, far more wp and other groups were given a chance over a qualified bp, even when there was affirmative action and DEI. Yet they fail to hear where you said that nobody should be given a opportunity just because they are black, etc. Im not a fan of Kamala Harris, yet I think you made a great point. I actually have no problem with DEI and all those similar programs being eliminated. Most truly qualified black people like me were never given a easy path anyway. Big up yuhself. Peace.
Hey hey hey. Thanks so much. That's the beauty of diversity of thought. It cuts both ways. So, that's fine that they don't agree. I just fear some of them missed the point. And I agree with some of the points you raised. What I want people to understand is that just because a person was hired to diversify a company doesn't mean they are woefully unqualified. It's sad that people think those two things go together. Thanks so much, as always, for watching and weighing in. I really appreciate your perspective.
@ThisBahamianGyal You are correct about the beauty in diverse opinions. As long as it is a respectful disagreement. At least the audience isn't as toxic as other sites. I'm originally from Jamaica. Interestingly many years ago me and my ex who is African American went to the Bahamas. She loved it. But wasn't accustomed to the sellers being a bit aggressive. I told her this is child's play compared to Jamaica. Lol. I wanted her to experience a more authentic vibe. Therefore we even had lunch at a local restaurant. The lady at the restaurant even hooked her up with something to drink for her stomach pain. We even took the bus over to Paradise Island like locals Awesome place. I took her there because I didn't want to be aggravated with dealing with family, friends, etc. And it was her first time to the islands. Nuff respect. Keep on🙏
I agree with this comment. And I’m tired of people making everything about race. I think Rogan has been in the woke northeast too long because this is very much unlike her usual level headed takes. As a BW I’m just over hearing about color 🤦🏾♀️
Do you believe that a company would really hire someone who was not qualified for a position? I’m asking because my understanding was that DEI allows for a business to understand, recognize and consider those that do not necessarily look like them if it is a race or that a women black or white can perform the same job and should be paid same pay. DEI is everyone disability, age.
@@lethaoliphant3427 Where were you in the last 15 years? They boast about hiring people based on their identity all the time. Biden said he'd hire black women as well as LGBT people, and soon after that Kamala and Karine Jean Pierre came into the picture. The left and Hollywood these days is all about shuffling black and brown people, LGBT, and women front and center, even when the role don't call for them like when they force it switching out the race and gender of an already established character..... They don't get to fire people based only on what they look like and who they sleep with, and those people don't get to accept the job just because some guy looking to hire said he wanted people who looked like them, then whine about it when people tell them that they were hired because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, and ethnicity. Of course not all LGBT people, not all ethnic people were hired just because of who they are, but they don't get to complain about others talking about them when they see others in their demographic giving them all the reasons to believe it. It's not even a belief situation because in a lot of cases it's a fact.
I think it's like any insult - it's an easy dig that people use to strike hard. People aren't naturally kind-hearted and will find a nasty dig that they may not believe - it's just nastiness. But DEI really refers to anyone who isn't a white male. And if you fall into one of these categories, and you're bad at your job, people will wonder. I sometimes wonder if i got my job because I was a woman. It's possible.
Absolutely despicable behavior when people do this. People who can't do their job won't last long in their jobs. However, as a white male manager who's approaching retirement, I've been told directly, "didn’t any one who's a minority apply for the postion?" I was honestly shocked because the job was publicly published. "Um, these are the candidates who applied. It was open to everyone. I'm not cherry picking the people who applied. "
"You didn't get there on merit", what that lady said at the beginning there was quite spot on. Every single day i encounter people that absolutely should NOT be working in the position they are. Especially here, where the English language is used more than any other language and yet I constantly come across people that cannot understand a word i am saying or have extremely poor broken language and also shouldn't be in the position of a doctor, a nurse, a therapist, basically where language is extremely important to understand and also miscommunication and misunderstandings lead to a lot of problems, and especially if they cannot even READ english. It is such a massive problem here and it is worse and worse every year. Im a white woman. I can read and speak and spell and understand the english language very well and also I can speak a bit of french. If i do not get hired because some other person that barely speaks english that is a different ethnicity than me and they aren't qualified to do said job, I would be incredibly upset. That isn't fair to anybody. If someone is fit for that job then they deserve it. Period. End of story.
Isn't it true about certain people though? Biden himself said he'd choose certain people to work with him specifically because of their race and gender. Why wouldn't people be inclined to believe differently about those people with that knowledge? The people they chose to run the fire department of LA were hired specifically because of their race, gender, and sexual orientation and they proved that they don't deserve the job based on how they handle it, so why are people inclined to believe differently when they see them? Their bosses boast about it, tells people why they hired them, and coming straight from their mouths, it's never about their qualifications. I'm impressed by and respect people when they actually earned their position and wasn't just placed in their spot because some bureaucrat said they needed to be there. Of course not all LGBT women, or brown people, but when your boss tells the crowd why you got your job and it's because of your identity, who the hell is obligated to think different about you?
When I went to Commercial Dive school I was told that I would be more likely to get a job because I was a woman. I found that very depressing because almost all the men in my class were more capable than me. (Because of their physical strength). I want to earn my spot not be a token.
Fair point. At the same time, nobody thinks Obama was a DEI hire. He's super smart and articulate. With Kamala, for example, for the Secret Service ladies covering Trump during his campaign, the doubts are legitimate, in my opinion.
Hi Rogan I watch your video twice and I was very pleased for what you said,I'm sure everyone in that category will like to say thanks for speaking up for them,I'm so proud of you.
This is a hard topic because I see both sides. I just FEEL that this started out as a good thing, but like always it kinda became extremely offensive. I would never want to be hired based on sexual preference, ethnicity or religious beliefs. I want to be hired because I deserve it and I’m good at my job
I agree however what happens or how should it happen if one is not hired for those reasons. That is a reality in this Country. The message is there but the “label” leaves too much air to breathe a life of its own. To be twisted into rhetoric that is self serving . As an HR person and a business owner my goal is to hire the best person for a position. It’s crazy for me to think a company would just hire because they need to be diverse. At the same time, if I have a disabled hire versus say none disabled hire with the same qualifications same experience etc “apples to apples”and my business does not have disabled employees, I would give the position to the disabled employee- I would include that person in my business. It would be because I want my work force to look like and represent the people that patronize my business. That afford me the opportunity to exist, survive and make a profit. If that person was not a good fit, it would be because they were not a good fit for the business not because they were disabled and not because their resume did not indicate they would not be a good fit. Often times companies will not hire disabled people because of costs ie accommodation, insurance etc. I just believe we need to do better a s a society. We must have something in place for lack of empathy , racism (it is real , it does exist and it’s never going away) and business first mentality. IMHO
I am a lesbian and the job I currently work at is a private practice, when it was established over 30 years ago the owner explicitly refused to hire gay people. Ownership has changed and obviously I can’t be fired or openly refused a job for being gay, which I am grateful for. But I think that the dark side of DEI is that there are many careers where my accomplishments, experience and merits would be looked over and any success I achieved would be attributed to people giving me a free ride. And trying to fill a diversity quote just seems odd to me. I can’t think of a time where I went to a business or establishment and felt that the service wasn’t good because there were not enough gay people on staff.
People are going to use anything about someone in order to degrade them if they really want to. It's awful and ignorant, but it is humans being shitty humans. I do not condone or agree with disparaging anyone. I find it highly offensive when Randi said people are comfortable with black people struggling. I am not, nor have I ever been comfortable with ANYONE struggling. In fact, most people are good people trying their best. The internet is not the real world nor does it reflect how a person treats others in real life, and it seems many people have forgotten that. This is what I know: America has made significant cultural and social shifts over the past few decades and the current DEI policies do not reflect that progress. I firmly think that the current policies are counterintuitive to continued social progress. Both political parties need to stop bickering over this and reach a middle ground based on reported statistics from companies around the nation (with contextual evidence provided) and return to the ideal that being qualified is the most important thing when hiring someone. Now hold on, before you raise them hackles, I do believe it is important to have varied perspectives, especially from people with different backgrounds, but it's time to get rid of required quotas and see, in action, just how much we've actually progressed socially imo.
@@ThisBahamianGyal No, Sis... I totally hear you. Big up yourself by the way 😇 I was playing the part of the Casual Observer. To the vast majority, DEI is merely filling some quota, at the expense of Quality...
But this has also gone too far with the far right who have people acting racist as if every black person is a DEI hire, like Charlie Kirk. How do you even know if the pilot is one or the other?
@@ThisBahamianGyal a pilot chosen due to their DEI qualities first and foremost can be an excellent pilot and still qualify for the job. Just as well, a pilot chosen because of their excellence, first and foremost, is an even better pilot and more qualified for the job. Both of these can be true.
@@ThisBahamianGyal Who wants to take that chance when the person is going to be flying your plane? The fact that DEI exists insinuates that the person in that category can't get hired on their merits.
Unfortunately in my husband's former county job, for any application including tests and applications for advancement in the hierarchy, you got points for minority status. So for example, you could get more than 100% on an exam of mediocre score if you ticked female lgbtq minority religion minority race, with certain origins or religions getting more than others. Just before he applied for his promotion, his coworker reminded him to tick the minority religion box (which we are) to make sure he got the points he 'deserved'. He found it incredibly insulting, but ticked the box anyway because otherwise he'd be shooting himself in the foot if he stood on principle. He got the promotion, but it left a bad taste in his mouth. He will never know if that box tick got him the job over someone else. It destroyed his view of his own merit. Thankfully he found work outside the agency after a year in that position and left. So many of the people in that upper ranked office were terrible, viewing everything through the lens of who deserved what rather than making decisions based on merit or according to the rules and guidelines set out by the agency. Really terrible. I think it's a bit better in the private sector, at least in our experience it is.
That's why we should follow the civil rights laws that are already old in the west and not have any race, gender, or sexuality based hiring period. If Joe Biden said he wanted the best VP he could get to take the job and picked Kamala Harris nobody could rightly call her that. But he explicitly said he was only considering black women, so it's an accurate description. Now the same people who claim this is "positive discrimination" are offended when it's pointed out? I'm sorry but the lefts own obsession with virtue signaling is what causes this. They coin terms like woke and DEI to describe themselves and their ideology. They are obnoxious and hypocritical as can be about it. And then before you know it those terms are being used more as a slur by all the people who are sick and tired of their BS.
No, The term WOKE was turned into something else by people who do not understand it's true meaning.. The same with Affirmative Action.. If schools where allowed to actually teach history properly many would have a better understanding of what these civil rights laws actual mean and why they were put into place. It is not a hand out, it is your civil right to be granted the same opportunities as everyone else. To try and even the playing field. In which the government and the Rich find other was to go around..
@@trishlawrence7412 Everyone knows what it means. Believe it or not we just don't always agree that you know better and are more aware than the rest of us. Like seriously you think the problem with public schools is they aren't woke enough? Lol
Theyre pejoratives for a reason lol. I agree and im a disaffected indie progressive. NORMAN FINKELSTEIN has great takes on this topic*. A jewish progressive academic He despises ibram kendi/harris/deangelo etc. = fake ass shitlibs. Aka woke inc
@@trishlawrence7412right. But do you really think in 2025 in the United States? That affirmative action./dei etc are still needed to be codified in the law? Don’t you think it’s causing more harm than good? Don’t we already have laws protecting our civil liberties? Im a disaffected indie progressive and the only way in my opinion. To stop these things from being Weaponized is to eliminate them The term woke is what the mainstream left uses to describe themselves. It’s a pejorative today for a reason. Lol. Woke inc* is what I call it. Look 20 years ago, woke meant you understood iraq didn’t have weapons of mass destruction Woke meant you understood the drug war/prison industry complex/school to prison pipeline was obvious and despicable But that’s not what it means today And that is the lefts fault It’s the fault of the mainstream neoliberal media and the universities. If you want to be upset that the term work became a pejorative? You have no one else to blame, but the DNC and the neo liberal media And universities. Aka WOKE INC. The conservatives and disaffected liberals Were right to be dismissive Of those ideologies and tactics They were fraudulent and disingenuous Words change over time This word changed because of the DNC and liberal media And universities ideological propaganda. I don’t understand why so many lefties are so insulted by Woke becoming a pejorative? Lol It’s like being upset because someone calls you a liberal. Instead of a progressive. Or lefty. “Thats not what it means” lol. No one used or gave a shit about that word Until it began to be criticized because the policies and ideologies being promoted Were exposed as fraudulent and counterproductive. It’s just such a stupid argument to have The words meaning changed That’s not the conservatives fault They were right to criticize Woke Incorporated Because it was highlighted and criticized. We were able to Kick those people out of office. If you really care about being aware of social injustice Blame the DNC /media/universities for co-opting the term and making it a pejorative. All the conservatives (and disaffected progressives like myself ) Did was recognize that whatever the term used to mean is not what it currently means. And we reject what it currently means in represents. It’s like arguing for the swastika lol because it used to be an ancient Buddhist symbol for cyclical nature of reality. 😂
I agree 100% and just commented the same exact thing. This is the lefts fault for cramming this down our throats and now it's coming back to bight them!!!
I disagree, out of all the cashier’s I work with there is 1 guy. 1. I commented on your podcast. I’m a DEI hire I’m a white 59 disabled woman. My bosses can’t stand me because I don’t kiss a$$. I come in 5 minutes early usually work later if needed. I’m the least paid and I’ve been there 3 years, much love and respect from SC❤
Very good point. However when you look at every major company org charts, every other minority group benefited from Affirmative Action and DEI more than black people. Hence it is mostly associated to black only.
This is the problem with programs like DEI: it denigrates all of the well-qualified “minorities’” positions. When my husband (white) was hired for his position, the Big Boss required the next hire to be “a young Hispanic female”. That hire lasted about six years in the job, and she SUUUCKED. I’m a fan of meritocracy. Often, this standard hurts me (I’m pretty mediocre in most arenas). I dgaf what color, creed, or orientation a person is in any position; I just want the best, most effective person in the job. Thanks for being willing to talk about this contentious issue!
Affirmative action hire is the same meaning! Funny they know exactly the implication is that your child immutable characteristics is your highest qualification! Thomas sowell take on this is what I believe! The presence of DEI in the hiring process is what is toxic!!!! Put the blame in the correct place!!!!
That type of common sense thinking has already been deemed raycist. Meritocracy and color blindness likewise are potentially incorrect ways of thinking to many people unfortunately
I don't believe it is a slur now granted to some people use it that way of course there will always be ignorant people but let's take you're example Karen bass what are her accomplishments ? What are her qualifications? Clearly she is not qualified to do her job so people calling her a dei hire is not racist or wrong it's the truth it's a matter of fact she was not elected by merit she was elected because just like that fire chief said she " looks like you " like that has anything to do whit being adept at youre job
I notice that big companies like Target are now getting out of the DEI business. While I understand that DEI could be used in the right way, these big companies that are using DEI are, in my opinion, using it so they don't get accused of racism. Also, DEI should not be used as a slur against someone over a hire.
Just compare the Karoline Leavitt to her predecessor, Raggedy Anne. You're going to seriously tell me Karine Jean-Pierre wasn't a DEI hire? Nothing to do with her being black, lesbian, LGBTQ, and whatever... Karine was a total FLOP. Just like Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who refused to define what a woman was "because she's not a Biologist" during the nomination hearing. Conversely, you DON'T hear anyone accusing Justice Thomas as a DEI hire. Why? BECAUSE HE'S INTELLIGENT. People may disagree with his rulings, but if you READ his opinions vs Brown's, you'd get it.
I heard Tim Walz (a white man) called a DEI hire quite a bit during the past USA election. Anytime you emphasize anything (physical trait etc) over merit there is going to be distrust, regardless of the original intent. People are all frustrated at each other and online trolls only make the divide wider. I've struggled at times, asking myself, did I earn this or was it given to me because I'm not a white man? In the end I look at what I am capable of and if that is honestly comparable to my co worker's. If it's not, I step up. If it is, I take it as validation that I'm where I deserve to be. I hate the idea that asking myself if I'm a DEI or token hire is such a natural question for me to think about. The government made it this way by pushing anything besides merit
It is left's way of keeping you down. They have control over you, as long as they keep you believing you are a victim. They want you to believe that you can only make it with the help of the government. That is definitely not saying that the conservatives are our knights in shining armour.
It was said an uncomfortable amount of times and is absolutely a dog whistle. End of story. You can hate what DEI had become...and it has become extreme. But, understand what's at play here.
I agree it's a slur. Unfortunately it's a consequence of open hiring practices that have opened the door for bigots who will use any excuse to belittle people who don't look like them. In Kamala Harris' situation, because of Biden's statement, that accusation immediately came out. I agree that 'legacy admissions ' also have to go.
I agree with you. I wish Biden had never led with Harris' race. He should have just said she is super qualified to lead and she deserves your vote. Let people say they want a black person, etc. But, the bigots will belittle the folks who don't look like them. Thanks for watching.
THIS needed to be said. And, i was surprised how many r rupping off their masks. Sadly, BM say this for BW too. Incompetence comes in all shapes, sizes, shades.
I definitely disagree with this. Ive looked for jobs when my husband left me, im white and straight, and i was passed over for not being diverse enough. I also used to be in hiring and we were pushed to specifically look for preferred pronouns even though those candidates were often worst employees who caused the most problems for us. I personally have never seen it as a "black" thing. Ever. Ive seen it as a "we wont hire the white person unless they have they/them pronouns on their application or identify as lgbt.
This, over any other, is the one topic that made me want to make videos again. With every utterance of the word is the not-so-hidden implication that we were put in a position not because of our ability but because of our race. An "affirmative action hire" has always been a thing, and it stands as one of the biggest accusations that make us feel like we have to work 10x as hard as a white person to show we belong there. But I believe the point you make @5:44 is one often over looked. If anyone wondered why we went from the occasionally uttered "affirmative action hire" on the lips of a racist to "DEI hire" on news stations - I think that's the reason. Point to a singular group of people and tell them they're the cause of all the evils in the world - and I think any group would get defensive. Yeah, they got nasty, some racists took off their masks but, we should consider whether we helped push them there.
Interesting, because some of these people never seem to have an issue hiding behind their status as minorities once their leadership or job capabilities gets called into question. Or is that just my white fragility talking because I feel threatened because I might lose my white privilege, which of course allows me to get whatever it is I want in life, which is why I am a trillionaire. What exactly did everyone honestly think the outcome of any of this was going to be? That we would all start holding hands and singing Kumbya? Nobody seen the writing on the wall? Nobody seen the resentment or hostility coming, especially after everyone has had to have this stuff rammed up the backside for the last 8yrs, by almost every single outlet. DEI is garbage, and it is exactly the reasons you have mentioned that make it so. How about this question, if 5 people are in a room for an interview for the same job, and all five people are very equally qualified for the one job, and 1 person in that room is black, is the said outcome due to that person being black?
I live in a part of Florida that’s so diverse that DEI only shows up on flickering screens and DEI would probably be an insult. Most people I know are Christian or Christian adjacent in their beliefs so judging people on their skin color is mostly taboo. I kind of live in a bubble and I think “DEI” and policies like that are psyopps
DEI wouldn't have such negative connection if the E was about equality instead of equity which is equality of outcome instead of opportunity in which incompetence slips thru the cracks and the opportunity to excel in a job might be lost in the need for company to maximize profit which is actually what the company's goal is in order to stay in business. Which makes DEI a case of caring more about a paintjob over the motorm
Is it possible for an able-bodied cis straight white male to be a dei hire? I thought dei was based on the idea that white men had all the jobs and the only way anyone not fitting the description would ever be hired is if employers were forced to do so. At least the simplified version of what I’ve heard over the years
DEI has cheapened the achievements of people regardless of ethnicity or sex or sexuality it may not have set out to be but it’s been corrupted by the individuals who were looking for a quick way to show how virtuous than thou they are/were in my opinion.
Ive been paying some attention this whole DEI thing, and what ive seen is somewhat abuse of the idea, and it's unintended outcomes. For eg., the major beneficiaries are unfortunately not the ones most people expected. Maybe we should all agree to revert to merit based systems. Also, maybe the lesser we talk about race, the lesser the racial problems we'd see.
I think we as a society have been so hyper focused on diversity that it’s backfired .. When all we talk about is race and sexuality etc we begin to give the impression that that matters MORE then merits.. performance .. experience etc.. Creating yet another sphere of phobias and racism…Businesses had to meet certain benchmarks based on % of minorities hired ..to “look good” .. I don’t know if it realistically solved much long term…Affirmative action had limited results too.. People also forget that EQUITY and EQUALITY aren’t the same… Some go as far as to say that this equity path is a slippery slope to communism..
Affirmative action hire is the same meaning! Funny they know exactly the implication is that your child immutable characteristics is your highest qualification! Thomas sowell take on this is what I believe! The presence of DEI in the hiring process is what is toxic!!!! But the blame in the correct place!!!!
I am just very passionate about the scriptures, and like b to use that as the backbone of my ethical comments, like the statement Peter said to Cornelius to promote a Theocratic view of equality (Acts 10:34; Romans 10:2).
What I admire about our black and immigrant citizens is even when they were down on their luck, they pulled themselves up and worked hard and many became superstars and success stories, especially after the civil rights era. Affirmative action helped when it was introduced, yes, but only by a small margin, which I found interesting. I think without it, we'd still see people of different backgrounds making their way through the ranks and this use of "DEI Hire" as a backhanded insult would disappear. I don't want companies and universities to withhold opportunities from minorities, but at the same time, history shows they're more than capable of making their way without the helping hand, because now everyone has equal opportunity. As you stated, many find it insulting that one would think they can't make it without these hiring processes or programs, which is why I think we're seeing so much backlash. It's an insult to integrity. I think we'd all be pissed if we found out we were hired to fill a quota or if others perceived us that way. It's a messy situation and I can't get all my thoughts out in a comment lol We can call out incompetence without regressing to an openly defamatory dialogue. People are getting way too comfortable with it. We can call out failure as we see it, but for people who really did earn their place by taking risks and opportunities, we need to stop resenting their success.
The thing is, diversity has always been here it's just been saturated with the years and then people, especially those with ill intent for their own personal gain that people don't remember it was normal. But so is also nepotism and a few racist that continue this with each generation of all colors. Not just white.
Yt women are the main beneficiaries of DEI. Just like with Affirmative Action. But black people are the FACE of both. We get scapegoated and degraded when these programs really don’t benefit to a large degree compared to what Yt women get. We need to pull back a little from these National dialogs and really look at what’s going on behind the scenes before we pick up our capes when emotions are high. Black folks need to look toward each other and start organizing economically instead of depending on these governments. I don’t care about these name callers who are deluded about what’s going on.
I keep telling black people this but I get called names. DEI isn't a great thing. They hire women instead because they can pay us less! No men so no reason to compare your salary to a man but to a woman who is making similar if not the same. That's why men can't find work. They rather pay women less and pretend as if it's a favor.
Okay, I did some digging and did find some stats and papers to support that white women have historically benefited the most from DEI policies. This means very little, however. Most of the population is white presenting, so it begs to reason that once DEI policies were in place, the largest demographic it benefitted (i.e. white women, since white MEN did not count) would be helped the most. Context revolving statistics matters a lot.
I feel like race hustlers are to blame honestly. The Al Sharton's of the world are doing way more damage to the black community and the world than good.
I see what you're saying, but i think it's not quite so black and white. I think a lot of people saying it are just repeating a phrase they've heard that describes a phenomenon they're seeing, and that is probably the majority. Some people absolutely are using it in a more charged way.
I agree with how this word has become, but do not agree with the cause of why it has become. It was the corporates that started the DEI hires and the people who support it actively bragged about it. Despite all the negativity around this term now, there's nothing about this term that was misunderstood by the general public. All it's meanings and associations of this word came from it's advocators, so they can only blame themselves now, and the general public has their freedom to use any established words as they feel free even if it now is an insulting word.
I think DEI is bad for everyone. It’s better to improve oneself so you can compete than to lower standards and/or give preferential treatment to certain groups.
I would like to be hired not because of my ethnic background which is diverse. I would like to be hired because I'm capable and the best choice for the job not because they're trying to accommodate an agenda. Being hired because of pity is demoralizing.
Soooo I have to disagree with your argument. Sam Brinton, Rachel Levine, K.J.P, and many others who were without a shadow of a doubt D.E.I HIRES(these people were hired on something other than BEST QUALIFIED)
I’m going to disagree this time with your video. I’m going to take a little different approach to this. I think it’s the corporations fault most of the time. I’m sure if they took just a little more time they could find qualified candidates for the DEI positions. It seems like they find the worse candidate possible. Some of these people I see working have no busy being there. Also they are not being trained for the job they are asked to do. If we are being honest with ourselves, we all know some people that are horrible at their jobs. The only way to fix it is to hire the most qualified person. So lets everyone up our game and get out there to find that dream job.
I’ve been dem my whole life…started watching more conservative…voted for trump (who I use to hate) and DEI was branded very differently…I’ll admit I had some blinders to what it actually was,…thank you for posting this lovely lady who is articulating this concept in a way I can understand ❤❤ love your videos even if I disagree I always learn something respectfully taught ❤❤ 11:11
This is actually making me extremely upset because I love ❤️ everyone that’s a good person. I have friends from all over the world. For some reason I only watch black platforms and I’m not even black. But I have been seeing in many black platforms blk people saying extremely negative things about Latino people specifically Mexican. This is exactly what the media wants to divide us instead of supporting. It’s just sad seeing this . This made me really emotional how the media will do this. I love black people and everyone that’s is a great person. It was sad seeing blk people being so rude to my Latino community. This is what the media wants to distract and divide! This broke my heart!! I’m going to start deleting and stop watching certain black entertainment on RUclips that I loved
It's extremely sad. No one is above or below anyone else, and I wish people would remember that. Anyone can be racist, but anyone can choose to love all human beings instead.
I don't agree with LOWERING standards so "under-presented" groups can "qualify," whether you're talking about the military, MEDICAL school entrance exams, firefighting, etc. NJ even tried to do away with the TEACHER'S exam. No, no, no. You'll have to revisit your stance on this one. Sorry, girlfriend.
Wait wait wait. So, you think I believe that companies should LOWER standards so that minorities can qualify. You are absolutely mistaken. I believe I expressed in my video, that being a minority doesn't mean you are unqualified. Of course I want the person who is most qualified to have the position. But, even when that qualified person is hired, they are called a DEI hire just because they are a minority. Obama was highly educated and I read comments calling him a DEI president. Are you serious?
Didn't need DEI for a company to respect different religious needs, that's part of the 1st Amendment and Civil Rights Act of 1964. I have never agreed with companies trying to fulfill quotas in hiring, it's had multiple names & it's not right. Diversity of thoughts & opinions, should be what's desired, I believe you have more innovation and out of the box thinking that way.
I work in healthcare. Long term care to be exact, and we all must be DEI hires LOL! Five male caregivers out of 20+. 3 white nurses out of nine. 2 white caregivers out of 20+. We are always hiring no matter what you look like. Are you breathing? You're hired. White people, specifically white Americans don't want to do the jobs in elder care that are needed. As a matter of fact most Americans of any race or gender don't want the work. Most of the people I work with English is not their first language. On my shift (graveyard) I have me and seven caregivers. Myself and one of the caregivers are the only ones born in the US. All the shifts are like that.
People that use these terms towards people from non dominant groups who actually earned it is a form of conservatism and hinders progressivism. I mean I like seeing people from other backgrounds taking on a position that they are historically underrepresented in.
I work at a black owned, all black employee place so I haven't noticed anything, personally, but especially on social media...yes!!! Every 'other' is a DEI! It's definitely become a slur!🤦🏽♀️
I'm of 2 minds about this I think some ppl use dei as a slur and it's not always justified in calling someone that but it does exist and is out there and it's not always positive and I don't think it just refers to non white either
I'm surprised this is somewhat more woke than before. I don't mean to be rude, just saying, because I thought this was a conservative channel; wasn't it?
No, it's not. I asked people to stop putting me in a box. I always said that on my platform I would criticize Donald Trump when I needed to and support when I needed to. I have not strayed from that.
This is such an interesting topic and really needed your perspective. The past few months I have noticed the word DEI in all the comments and to be honest and I had no idea what it meant 😔. I had to google the definition. We all need to do better ❤️❤️❤️
“Doing better” would be hiring the best person for the job, not crying about the term “DEI hire” and trying to make it about race. Y’all wanna be victims so bad 💀💀💀💀
I don't know about flying planes, but in my job as Corrections Officer , I've seen plenty of people being promoted whp were promoted because the powers that be have decided that they want 'diversity ' in certain positions. I have also seen people promoted because they belong to a certain clique or crowd. Not necessarily because of minority status. How about we just hire people who can do the damn job regardless of whp they are. I'm straight up d I ne with this crap. If they prove to be incompetent, than fire them
I never benefited from dei, but now after this, I will have to be on guard because even after working hard I will be put in the same boat as the dei hires who ruined the company's because they weren't qualified!😢
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Donald Glover ,one of the most talented brothers in the industry , said that the producer of "30 Rock" proudly told him he was a DEI hire and he said he spent the next 5 years insecure wondering if he actually belonged there.
You're beginning to throw me off a bit Raygan 😊
I recommend you go watch Pink Book Lessons take on this issue.
This time I'm baffled by your remarks. This is crazy.
We NEED to move back towards MLK Jr's dream for our country. We need to take race and gender off of all applications unless there's an issue where your job requires certain physical strengths.
Nepotism and legacy are NOT only used by white people, btw!!!
😂 I don’t know about the rest of the people because I can’t read their minds but DEI hire has always meant to me that people get hired based on the color of skin and gender. Not sure where the new N word came into play. DEI goes along with the belief that whites are born racist so we better get other skin colors in working for big gov. 😂 this whole racist b.s. will never f-ing end. So tired of the b.s.
Ppl going cra z bc comps r removing all DEI initiatives, but the SAME ppl get mad when they r labeled DEI... can't have it both ways!!🤷🏾♀️
I gonna have to disagree with you on this one. DEI isn't a slur against black people or minorities for jobs. It's literally companies outright saying that they want diversity over merit. I as a black man have never once benefitted from DEI, and I know a lot of white people who have been constantly looked over for jobs and admission to higher education because there were "too many of them" and most of them were worse off financially than the minority students and job applicants that applied for those schools and jobs. People are just calling out companies and organizations on what they've been openly admitting to do for the past few years.
Vivek Ramaswamy getting called a DEI hire most likely had to do with his position on the H1B visa issue when it came to mostly jobs in tech and in other fields, companies would abuse the visa system in order to import labor from other countries for half of the pay they would've had to if they hired an American who had already gone to school and was trained for those jobs. Since that dust up on twitter started, Ive heard countless stories from people who either got their position terminated or rebranded or just being plain looked over for someone from another country companies can bring in and pay for lower salaries. When he said that, He also called Americans lazy and entitled, saying that they watch too much Saved By The Bell and Boy Meets World and Vivek lost a lot of the goodwill he built up with the American people over the past two years with his run for office for saying he'd rather hire abroad then hiring Americans for those jobs. Although I thought he made some good points with his post, he missed the mark in thinking that all Americans have gotten entitled, there's plenty of millennials and Gen Z who have no problem working hard for their future and are not caught up in what the latest TikTok trends are, they had valid concerns for someone like Vivek who claimed to be America First.
Also you have to understand that we're in the year 2025, this isn't the 1950's where there was a lot of legal discrimination against black people and other minorities in the form of Jim Crow laws. If a group is being underepresented in a job position, sport, entertainment, etcetera, it more often than not has to do with that group not having a ton of interest in those fields to begin with. Nobody really cares about a lack of diveristy when it comes to sports like Hockey, Lacrosse and Golf outside of Tiger Woods.
THIS! 1000% THIS!
I definitely agree with this comment here!!! My exact thoughts
DEI does more harm to people's reputation as a merit well earned person than it does good. I don't care when i see people saying that when they see a black dr, a lesbian firefighter even though i'm a black woman myself, because for 1 it's not completely coming from nowhere, 2 the left gave them reason to talk the way they do, and 3 all the people who accepted their DEI positions made it happen by being the tokens accepting jobs they know they don't deserve when they literally saw that they were looking to hire people only based on their identity.
I've never been one to yell at people for pointing and laughing when they see a circus, yell at the performers not the spectators.
Thanks 🙏🏾! You have spoken well!
@@BIGARMADA1988 Well said! 👏 👍🏾 👌
In my humble opinion, I find this argument is a tactic for black folks especially, to remain in victim mode. We need to focus on improving and raising standards in our community. So many children in the public schools can not read at grade level and beyond, we are unhealthy and our music is trash these days.
When I heard DEI hire, it was refered to Kamala Harris, who admittedly was a DEI hire who was hired by Joe Biden because she was a woman, and who did a disgraceful job at representing professional women and Indian Women with her inability to answer questions or explain points; it was embarassing. Karrine Jean Pierre is included in this mess as well.
We can not let words or the internet keep us from greatness. If you have a great product, it will sell regardless of said diversity. I believe that success is based on the indivdual integrity to present a superior product, experience, thought or idea not on skin color. (Example, Rihanna's Fenty brand)
@@petiteaudge WELL SAID ✅
good points!
My exact thoughts
💯% AGREE
@@petiteaudge so, absolutely well said.
I feel like Affirmative Action and DEI started as a good idea on paper and has now escalated to something negative.
I agree. It did get way out of control. You are absolutely right!
Some people get so caught up with their own good intentions and 'doing the right thing' that they don't stop to actually take into consideration the possible consequences of their actions. That or they think that their ends justify the means. I'm not sure which is worse. Misguided either way.
@@breevans5219 I'm Indian, AA hasn't benefited me whatsoever. And I'm not from India. I'm born right here
@@ThisBahamianGyal The road to hell is paved with good intentions
BINGO! Nailed it.
Joe Biden literally called Kamala a DEI hire 🙄
That may be the only honest thing Joe Biden said in his presidency
Andddd now I gotta think if they qualify or not 😂😂😂 lmao
As a Black tech professional turned entrepreneur, I've seen both sides.
In 2018, I earned my corporate role through technical merit and presentation skills. By 2020, I witnessed a shift: demographic targets began overshadowing performance standards. The tipping point for me? Hearing colleagues openly say they felt immune from performance reviews due to diversity metrics.
While 'DEI hire' can be weaponized as a slur, we need honest dialogue about building diverse teams without compromising excellence.
Honestly some hires are indeed that….a DEI hire., because they are minorities. That is the truth. And there are people that get jobs just because of their race, gender etc. So there are situations where it is the truth to call someone a DEI hire. DEI doesn’t automatically mean black people.
Great point!
And it's annoying how she's showing a clip of Kamala being talked about when Kamala herself only got chosen for vice president because Biden said he wanted a black woman, he told people that he was seeking women of color who were also LGBT then all of a sudden Karine Jean Pierre came into the picture. Where is her misplaced anger coming from when she knows that?
Sam Brinton
Rachel Levine
Agree 100%
Whoa - I think this is the first time I've disagreed with you. I literally think it means that a person who has demonstrated that they don't have the competences and were obviously hired due to some immutable characteristic (or they checked a box for their employer). Is the term being misused? Absolutely. The L.A. mayor is NOT a DEI hire ffs.
It's unfortunate, because the intent of AA and DEI is noble - the unintended consequences are tragic (like having to work doubly hard, or wondering if you were selected for reasons other than merit)
DEI was misused and now we are seeing the backlash.
I don't always agree with every take you have, but i always respect and appreciate your opinions ❤
Personally i find her talking points annoying. She knows that many of the people she's talking about were specifically hired because of their race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual orientation, their bosses and organization boast about it, they love shouting about how they do it, they lecture us about how it's a good thing.... Why is she whining about things like this when the people making the comments know in many cases, that they're right?
They might say it as an insult, but in many cases the people they specifically talk about is very much that, a DEI hire. If they don't want to be called a DEI hire, then maybe they should stop taking positions they know they don't qualify for and that they reached out to them advertising that they're looking for people in their demographic.
@citrusbutter7718 I completely understand where you're coming from,I just respect people's opinions even when they differ from mine 🙂☺️
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DEI includes disabilities. I have a disability. It is more difficult for me to acquire a job. I need to look for programs that accept me. It's tougher.
Yes, it's very difficult for those with disabilities and those who are differently abled. I am really sorry you are having such a hard time!
@@ThisBahamianGyal thank you 🙏🏻 😊
I like you, and have listened to many of your videos.
I am a black woman and a Registered Nurse, and this is my views, my opinions on DEI hires.
I do NOT care what color, race the person is, I go by the qualifications of the person. As long as you have passed the exams, have the degree (s), license, a good character, critical thinking skills, and can do the job with grace under pressure, then the person should get the job.
President Biden and VP Harris proved to be very incompetent. VP Kamala is was a DEI hired, President Biden should not have been President, and looking back, I believe that the election was stolen from President Trump. I voted for Biden because he has been a politician for decades, and I thought that he would have secured the borders like his boss --- President Obama did. Then the truth was hidden from the American people about President Biden's mental and cognitive decline.
The Supreme Court judge that cannot answer the question, "what is a woman?" , should not have gotten the job. First, I believe that she knows what a woman is, because she is a woman. However, if she had told the truth and facts, I think that she thought that she would NOT have gotten the job, so I believe that she was not being truthful in answering that question. Personally, base on that, she should not have gotten the job.
The mayor in California proved to be ineffective and incompetent, and the governor also, they should not have their jobs.
I would not want a Black RN, or a white RN or a Asian RN etc getting a job in the hospital because of his or her color or race. The RN has to be qualified. I do not see DEI as the new N word or F word. Get the qualifications and be a critical thinker, have a good reputation, character and you should get the job. I am aware that some employers maybe racist and then that is a hard fight to get the job, but do not give up.
In my opinion if a lawyer, judge, doctor, nurse, police, politician etc does NOT know what a woman is and what a man is, then that person should not be in a position to make decisions and laws.
I care about facts, biological facts, not people's feelings. If a person has delusions, there are medications and treatment- psychiatrists to deal with that.
Let's be adults, be honest, truthful and recognize that there are only two sexes or genders. I do not care what adults do sexually behind closed doors, just do not insist that sane people go along with their delusions and nonsense.
Amen, sister! I watched Kamala throughout the campaign and saw that she wasn't very smart. She tried to be intelligent but ended with word salads.
The press secretary for Biden did not come off well either.
@truesincerity757 I agree with you 💯 👏
Same, i'm a black woman and i don't get offended, others give them reasons to believe what they believe, so why would i get upset. I know it's said as an insult to be called a DEI hire, but that insult didn't just come from nowhere.... And if the left is so proud of their DEI programs then they shouldn't take it as a frikin insult! Take that insult with a damn smile.
@@truesincerity757Yes! The responses she has made is just excuses why she doesn’t do what she was supposed to do.
Wait I thought you were joking about “DEI hire” being a slur for a second. Nobody gets called that more than Kamala, who is not of African descent. So how is the term related to race? 🤔 Ima have to disagree with this video but I respect your right to your opinions
I associate DEI with giving someone a job to meet quotas. Just like affirmative action, which came before it, I never wanted to be associated with it. I want my qualifications and work to speak for themselves.
To all those crying “DEI HIRE!”, imagine having a leg up on people for decades. Decades of nepotism and legacy hires and good old boy hires that didn’t earn it. Decades of knowing you are a perfect fit for a position but then not even being considered because the name on your application reads “DeShawn Williamson” or some other “non-white” name.
Or having the credit for all your hard work stolen for decades or the raise that you earned stolen and given to some undeserving person because they were white and of course you weren’t allowed to speak up for fear of losing your job. Which plays a huge in the wealth gap between white and black folks.
Such gall you have to run your mouths about someone being a DEI hire after you’ve unashamedly have left us decade after decade in such disparity. STFU
Disagree - has nothing to do with race. Must we make EVERYTHING about race? Y’all it’s 2025 🤦🏾♀️ stop.
DEI does have to do with race
It's not a slur. I work in a law office. Someone was hired to work on my team and this person was a DEI hire. This person had no experience or background in this particular field or in law at all. My supervisor even told us they had interviewed someone for this job who had worked in this field but in a different capacity. That person was not hired. This unqualified person was instead. I know why, and two POC who work with me also felt that this person was a DEI hire. This person also ended up not liking the position and quitting and also had an attitude.
@daisydoodle98 If this person was so woefully unqualified why hire them DEI or not? Basically, you set that person up for failure. I don’t understand why a law firm would do that.Was the person a DEI hire or was it something else like nepotism?
You miss the point of DEI hire😂
@JR-ev8ce I didn't hire them. My manager did. I hated working with this person and I was glad when they quit. It was not nepotism, although that has happened here and it p*ssed me off too. You don't understand why a law firm would have hired this person even though he was unqualified? DEI. They were hired because they were Black.
@@dr.johnnyfever9194 They were obviously hired because of their skin color. How did I miss the point?
DEI created more women becoming firefighters. Most women aren't strong enough to become firefighters. If a woman can do the same tasks as a man, then great-become a firefighter! But I don't think it's sexist if women aren't hired as firefighters. I've heard several programs have lowered their requirements so women can do them. I've also heard many women getting picked over a male applicant. If a woman cannot lift a 200-pound person, it puts the person at risk, the woman at risk, and the woman's coworkers at risk. The coworkers end up helping because she cannot do it alone. That's not fair to anyone. If I'm dying in a fire or in an accident, I don't care who saves me. That's one of the issues with DEI, and there are so many more!
I find many flaws with your argumment. One, is that you are assuming all white people are rich and have connections in high places. Just because the majority of the US 10%ers are white doesn't make the majority of white people 10%ers. The kid that gets screwed over is a kids that has top grades, comes from a average salary earning parents and is WHITE. That kid has a snowballs chance of getting into an ivy league school.
I know you don't come from an American heritage, but our ethos is based on being judged by our merits and not the color of our skin or our economical background.
Discrimination is alive and well in the workforce and it is not in favor of the average white kid. Try being white and getting a government job without prior military service. It ain't happening.
And BTW, I can be considered a DEI hire. And I wish it didn't exist, because I know I have earned my merits. And I will continue to earn them after it is gone. Discrimination is discrimination and you can't fight perceived discrimination with blatant discrimination.
Where I work, DEI has nothing to do with race. It's about gender identity, AKA trans people.
Yep. This has been my experience with it as well. The DEI ive been exposed to was all about putting the LGBT on a pedestal
You are WRONG. D.E.I. means hired without proper merit. That's it. THERE'S NO NEED TO GO ON A RACIST RANT.
I really love the intro. You bluntly described how I've been feeling for years. I want to know I was hired because I'm that guy, not because of pity.
Exactly the way I feel. That is why DEI and AA are a horrible idea.
@@workinprogress3609 What's AA?
Guys, she said she's not talking about the people that were hired just for their race/gender/sexuality, she's saying because of those DEI people now some will look at a minority working and just assume they're a DEI hire and say that to invalidate them. In some ways she's calling out DEI hiring and how its hurt the reputation of all of minorities. Looking at the comments I feel like so many people watching your channel assume you're republican and love what you have to say until it somehow could be taken as "woke". I for one love how balanced your content is and that you call out people pulling the race card and playing the victim but also talk about the other side of it, like weaponizing the DEI term. Independents are my favorite people to listen to as they don't have an immediate narrative to jump to! I don't always agree with what you have to say, but find you a lot less biased and more balanced than other people in this country I hear from. Sending support as always
I really enjoy your channel, but I've got to disagree that using the expression, "DEI hire," is synonymous with the N word. It is used to describe people the "terminology user" thinks was hired not based on the "DEI hire"'s ability/qualification but based on what basically amounts to a Govt "suggested" quota for DEI. It was a huge gaslight by business to curry favor with the Govt. That is clear with the quantity of businesses dismantling their DEI programs.
IMO, it comes down to this:
If you **lead** with your secondary characteristic (Black, Gay, woman, trans, etc) when talking about your achievement - it kinda begs the label of a DEI hire. Is it REALLY that important to have to advertise your sexuality when you get promoted?
When you lead with "Shelly is " and demand everyone celebrate that one facet over the merit she/he achievedm... Well, people will look to that being a DEI hire.
Yes, I absolutely ABSOLUTELY agree with that! I look at Kamala Harris and the fact that everyone highlighted the fact that she was a black woman. People started saying, "I want a black female president" So, naturally, that's what people started focusing on.
@@ThisBahamianGyalthe black caucus specifically negotiated Biden’s 2020 campaign endorsement with having Kamala as his VP.
As someone who fits into one of those minority groups (gay and female), I've got to strong disagree that it is just a new slur. DEI hire means a person who has demonstrated that they don't have the competences and were obviously hired due to some immutable characteristic (or they checked a box for their employer).
The problem we have from that is if people can't confirm whether someone is competent or not, we wonder if they were a DEI hire. We no longer assume that someone in a group that benefit from DEI got it solely based on merit. Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. So we wonder. Does it suck? Yes. I would hate for people to think I was a DEI hire but I get it.
That makes DEI problematic though, not the people wondering or calling it out. Even those in DEI groups wonder. I certainly do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out. The only way to stop it is to go back to hiring based on merit. Not gender, sexuality, colour... any of them. If a group can't compete on merit, then invest to ensure they're getting the right education. However also accept some groups will just never be able to compete on merit (female firefighters for example)or they simply don't want the jobs (women not wanting to be truck drivers)
Complaining about people highlighting DEI hires however doesn't do any good.
A DEI hire is someone who is completely unqualified for the job but got it anyway because of race or gender. That is a fact and take it any way you want.
Being a dei doesn’t make you immediately unqualified. Just because there are quotas doesn’t mean they hired any random minority.
@zoella2349 When you lower standards to fill a quota becuse you want a particular kind of person it is not unreasonable to question if that person is qualified, and if you lower standards unqualified people will be hired. You sound like Don Lemon.
Maybe not “completely” unqualified, but maybe less qualified than other candidates of a different group.
@ keyword is maybe, but you don't know if they are less or more qualified than others. The problem is people see anyone, not a white man and already believe you didn't earn your spot. DEI doesn't mean they picked some random person. So is it not understandable that calling minorities including disabled, dei hires almost makes it become a slur/insult?
how do you know the standard was lowered though? Unless a company said they did, you don't know. Do you consider the standards lowered when there are too many minorities? Idk how you can't see how problematic it is that you question whether all non-whites could be qualified enough to have the job and then defend your prejudice by blaming it on your perceived notion of dei. DEI wouldn't exist in the first place if there wasn't workplace discrimination in the first place. I'm just trying to make you understand the other perspective, and if this makes me sound like Don lemon idc.
I am Hispanic and work at a nonprofit, and from my experience DEI has been used to hire LGBTQ+ white women. I don’t agree with the lady saying conservatives have made the face of DEI black people/minorities. I believe Democrats sold it to the public like that, and it is the reason why everyone else associates it that way. But at the end of the day blacks have become the least beneficiary.
Thank you! I've been saying this for the longest.
DEI is just rebranded Affirmative Action. There is a term used today called "luxury beliefs." Generally its considered cool for an middle to upper class person to support social justice ideas as if they can be applied to everybody and they should fix some of the problems in society. However, when these ideas are actually applied, we find they really don't bring the intended results. For example, "defunding the police." It really has no application in middle to upperclass neighborhoods. But in lower income and poor neighborhoods, they actually have a need for more police services.
This was literally my exact thought when she said that I’m like no the dems have said it over and over again so now when republicans say it and maybe do overuse it they get blamed but the dems are the ones who made it look a certain way
@@bromack3 Totally agree! I live in NYC and I have to live everyday with these socially conscious laws, Defund the police and soft on crime policies have ruined my community. Everything sounds good in theory but is a disaster when applied.
@@tarynriver I was thinking the same thing. I am happy to see I was not the only one thinking it.
Very interesting observation my Bahamian gyal. Alot of your fans that tend tool always agree with you, suddenly dont agree with you....Wow! Critical thinking is so lacking these days ...They are so busy being caught up where you said DEI is used to represent black people, when in fact
most black people didnt benefit from it. As a blackman, I ve never benefited from it. In fact, far more wp and other groups were given a chance over a qualified bp, even when there was affirmative action and DEI. Yet they fail to hear where you said that nobody should be given a opportunity just because they are black, etc. Im not a fan of Kamala Harris, yet I think you made a great point. I actually have no problem with DEI and all those similar programs being eliminated. Most truly qualified black people like me were never given a easy path anyway. Big up yuhself. Peace.
Hey hey hey. Thanks so much. That's the beauty of diversity of thought. It cuts both ways. So, that's fine that they don't agree. I just fear some of them missed the point. And I agree with some of the points you raised. What I want people to understand is that just because a person was hired to diversify a company doesn't mean they are woefully unqualified. It's sad that people think those two things go together. Thanks so much, as always, for watching and weighing in. I really appreciate your perspective.
@ThisBahamianGyal You are correct about the beauty in diverse opinions. As long as it is a respectful disagreement. At least the audience isn't as toxic as other sites. I'm originally from Jamaica. Interestingly many years ago me and my ex who is African American went to the Bahamas. She loved it. But wasn't accustomed to the sellers being a bit aggressive. I told her this is child's play compared to Jamaica. Lol. I wanted her to experience a more authentic vibe. Therefore we even had lunch at a local restaurant. The lady at the restaurant even hooked her up with something to drink for her stomach pain. We even took the bus over to Paradise Island like locals
Awesome place. I took her there because I didn't want to be aggravated with dealing with family, friends, etc. And it was her first time to the islands. Nuff respect. Keep on🙏
You lost me with this video. It smells a little professional victimhood ish.
I agree with this comment. And I’m tired of people making everything about race. I think Rogan has been in the woke northeast too long because this is very much unlike her usual level headed takes. As a BW I’m just over hearing about color 🤦🏾♀️
So I once took the civil service exam, the man next to me automatically received 40 extra points because he was a minority. No discrimination here
I see it as people who didn't earn it, it just given to them
If not how can you tell if not.
Do you believe that a company would really hire someone who was not qualified for a position? I’m asking because my understanding was that DEI allows for a business to understand, recognize and consider those that do not necessarily look like them if it is a race or that a women black or white can perform the same job and should be paid same pay. DEI is everyone disability, age.
@@lethaoliphant3427 Where were you in the last 15 years? They boast about hiring people based on their identity all the time. Biden said he'd hire black women as well as LGBT people, and soon after that Kamala and Karine Jean Pierre came into the picture.
The left and Hollywood these days is all about shuffling black and brown people, LGBT, and women front and center, even when the role don't call for them like when they force it switching out the race and gender of an already established character..... They don't get to fire people based only on what they look like and who they sleep with, and those people don't get to accept the job just because some guy looking to hire said he wanted people who looked like them, then whine about it when people tell them that they were hired because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, and ethnicity.
Of course not all LGBT people, not all ethnic people were hired just because of who they are, but they don't get to complain about others talking about them when they see others in their demographic giving them all the reasons to believe it. It's not even a belief situation because in a lot of cases it's a fact.
Get rid of DEI and allow meritocracy to speak for one’s self. Any rule put in place to raise one group over another will never work.
DEI meant Didn't Earn It, and now DEI means Donald Ended It
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Good one lol
Trump can’t put two sentences together. He is the DEI hire and you figure out why.
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@ Yeah, because Kamala is a great thinker. At least Trump knows that there are only two sexes. Do you?
I think it's like any insult - it's an easy dig that people use to strike hard. People aren't naturally kind-hearted and will find a nasty dig that they may not believe - it's just nastiness.
But DEI really refers to anyone who isn't a white male. And if you fall into one of these categories, and you're bad at your job, people will wonder. I sometimes wonder if i got my job because I was a woman. It's possible.
Absolutely despicable behavior when people do this. People who can't do their job won't last long in their jobs.
However, as a white male manager who's approaching retirement, I've been told directly, "didn’t any one who's a minority apply for the postion?" I was honestly shocked because the job was publicly published.
"Um, these are the candidates who applied. It was open to everyone. I'm not cherry picking the people who applied. "
I agree with you there. Choose from between the people who hired. I 100% agree. Thanks for watching.
"You didn't get there on merit", what that lady said at the beginning there was quite spot on. Every single day i encounter people that absolutely should NOT be working in the position they are. Especially here, where the English language is used more than any other language and yet I constantly come across people that cannot understand a word i am saying or have extremely poor broken language and also shouldn't be in the position of a doctor, a nurse, a therapist, basically where language is extremely important to understand and also miscommunication and misunderstandings lead to a lot of problems, and especially if they cannot even READ english. It is such a massive problem here and it is worse and worse every year.
Im a white woman. I can read and speak and spell and understand the english language very well and also I can speak a bit of french. If i do not get hired because some other person that barely speaks english that is a different ethnicity than me and they aren't qualified to do said job, I would be incredibly upset. That isn't fair to anybody. If someone is fit for that job then they deserve it. Period. End of story.
Isn't it true about certain people though? Biden himself said he'd choose certain people to work with him specifically because of their race and gender. Why wouldn't people be inclined to believe differently about those people with that knowledge? The people they chose to run the fire department of LA were hired specifically because of their race, gender, and sexual orientation and they proved that they don't deserve the job based on how they handle it, so why are people inclined to believe differently when they see them?
Their bosses boast about it, tells people why they hired them, and coming straight from their mouths, it's never about their qualifications.
I'm impressed by and respect people when they actually earned their position and wasn't just placed in their spot because some bureaucrat said they needed to be there. Of course not all LGBT women, or brown people, but when your boss tells the crowd why you got your job and it's because of your identity, who the hell is obligated to think different about you?
I have to respectfully disagree w you. DEI is very real and its not a racial or gender specific slur.
True. But did you and the majority of her audience really listen vs listening to respond to what you don't agree with?
When I went to Commercial Dive school I was told that I would be more likely to get a job because I was a woman. I found that very depressing because almost all the men in my class were more capable than me. (Because of their physical strength). I want to earn my spot not be a token.
Fair point. At the same time, nobody thinks Obama was a DEI hire. He's super smart and articulate. With Kamala, for example, for the Secret Service ladies covering Trump during his campaign, the doubts are legitimate, in my opinion.
Hi Rogan I watch your video twice and I was very pleased for what you said,I'm sure everyone in that category will like to say thanks for speaking up for them,I'm so proud of you.
This is a hard topic because I see both sides. I just FEEL that this started out as a good thing, but like always it kinda became extremely offensive. I would never want to be hired based on sexual preference, ethnicity or religious beliefs. I want to be hired because I deserve it and I’m good at my job
I agree however what happens or how should it happen if one is not hired for those reasons. That is a reality in this Country. The message is there but the “label” leaves too much air to breathe a life of its own. To be twisted into rhetoric that is self serving . As an HR person and a business owner my goal is to hire the best person for a position. It’s crazy for me to think a company would just hire because they need to be diverse. At the same time, if I have a disabled hire versus say none disabled hire with the same qualifications same experience etc “apples to apples”and my business does not have disabled employees, I would give the position to the disabled employee- I would include that person in my business. It would be because I want my work force to look like and represent the people that patronize my business. That afford me the opportunity to exist, survive and make a profit. If that person was not a good fit, it would be because they were not a good fit for the business not because they were disabled and not because their resume did not indicate they would not be a good fit. Often times companies will not hire disabled people because of costs ie accommodation, insurance etc. I just believe we need to do better a s a society. We must have something in place for lack of empathy , racism (it is real , it does exist and it’s never going away) and business first mentality. IMHO
I am a lesbian and the job I currently work at is a private practice, when it was established over 30 years ago the owner explicitly refused to hire gay people. Ownership has changed and obviously I can’t be fired or openly refused a job for being gay, which I am grateful for. But I think that the dark side of DEI is that there are many careers where my accomplishments, experience and merits would be looked over and any success I achieved would be attributed to people giving me a free ride. And trying to fill a diversity quote just seems odd to me. I can’t think of a time where I went to a business or establishment and felt that the service wasn’t good because there were not enough gay people on staff.
Always have heard it used as an explanation for how an unqualified person was hired. Not saying it could not be used as a slur.
MAybe if every person who is accused of being a dei hire is not an utter idiot.
I have always been against BEE and affirmative action, and I agree that you cannot force different cultures together, its a recipe for disaster
I agree. It is a recipe for disaster. A lot of these DRI policies didn't work.
People are going to use anything about someone in order to degrade them if they really want to. It's awful and ignorant, but it is humans being shitty humans. I do not condone or agree with disparaging anyone. I find it highly offensive when Randi said people are comfortable with black people struggling. I am not, nor have I ever been comfortable with ANYONE struggling. In fact, most people are good people trying their best. The internet is not the real world nor does it reflect how a person treats others in real life, and it seems many people have forgotten that.
This is what I know: America has made significant cultural and social shifts over the past few decades and the current DEI policies do not reflect that progress. I firmly think that the current policies are counterintuitive to continued social progress. Both political parties need to stop bickering over this and reach a middle ground based on reported statistics from companies around the nation (with contextual evidence provided) and return to the ideal that being qualified is the most important thing when hiring someone. Now hold on, before you raise them hackles, I do believe it is important to have varied perspectives, especially from people with different backgrounds, but it's time to get rid of required quotas and see, in action, just how much we've actually progressed socially imo.
Would you rather a DEI HIRE Airline Pilot, or an Excellent Pilot?! Let that sink in...
You're proving my point. You think that a DEI hire *can't* be an excellent pilot. That is exactly thebpoint I am making.
@@ThisBahamianGyal No, Sis... I totally hear you. Big up yourself by the way 😇 I was playing the part of the Casual Observer. To the vast majority, DEI is merely filling some quota, at the expense of Quality...
But this has also gone too far with the far right who have people acting racist as if every black person is a DEI hire, like Charlie Kirk. How do you even know if the pilot is one or the other?
@@ThisBahamianGyal a pilot chosen due to their DEI qualities first and foremost can be an excellent pilot and still qualify for the job.
Just as well, a pilot chosen because of their excellence, first and foremost, is an even better pilot and more qualified for the job.
Both of these can be true.
@@ThisBahamianGyal Who wants to take that chance when the person is going to be flying your plane? The fact that DEI exists insinuates that the person in that category can't get hired on their merits.
Unfortunately in my husband's former county job, for any application including tests and applications for advancement in the hierarchy, you got points for minority status. So for example, you could get more than 100% on an exam of mediocre score if you ticked female lgbtq minority religion minority race, with certain origins or religions getting more than others. Just before he applied for his promotion, his coworker reminded him to tick the minority religion box (which we are) to make sure he got the points he 'deserved'. He found it incredibly insulting, but ticked the box anyway because otherwise he'd be shooting himself in the foot if he stood on principle. He got the promotion, but it left a bad taste in his mouth. He will never know if that box tick got him the job over someone else. It destroyed his view of his own merit. Thankfully he found work outside the agency after a year in that position and left. So many of the people in that upper ranked office were terrible, viewing everything through the lens of who deserved what rather than making decisions based on merit or according to the rules and guidelines set out by the agency. Really terrible. I think it's a bit better in the private sector, at least in our experience it is.
That's why we should follow the civil rights laws that are already old in the west and not have any race, gender, or sexuality based hiring period. If Joe Biden said he wanted the best VP he could get to take the job and picked Kamala Harris nobody could rightly call her that. But he explicitly said he was only considering black women, so it's an accurate description. Now the same people who claim this is "positive discrimination" are offended when it's pointed out? I'm sorry but the lefts own obsession with virtue signaling is what causes this. They coin terms like woke and DEI to describe themselves and their ideology. They are obnoxious and hypocritical as can be about it. And then before you know it those terms are being used more as a slur by all the people who are sick and tired of their BS.
No, The term WOKE was turned into something else by people who do not understand it's true meaning.. The same with Affirmative Action.. If schools where allowed to actually teach history properly many would have a better understanding of what these civil rights laws actual mean and why they were put into place. It is not a hand out, it is your civil right to be granted the same opportunities as everyone else. To try and even the playing field. In which the government and the Rich find other was to go around..
@@trishlawrence7412 Everyone knows what it means. Believe it or not we just don't always agree that you know better and are more aware than the rest of us. Like seriously you think the problem with public schools is they aren't woke enough? Lol
Theyre pejoratives for a reason lol. I agree and im a disaffected indie progressive. NORMAN FINKELSTEIN has great takes on this topic*. A jewish progressive academic He despises ibram kendi/harris/deangelo etc. = fake ass shitlibs. Aka woke inc
@@trishlawrence7412right. But do you really think in 2025 in the United States? That affirmative action./dei etc are still needed to be codified in the law? Don’t you think it’s causing more harm than good? Don’t we already have laws protecting our civil liberties? Im a disaffected indie progressive and the only way in my opinion. To stop these things from being Weaponized is to eliminate them
The term woke is what the mainstream left uses to describe themselves. It’s a pejorative today for a reason. Lol. Woke inc* is what I call it.
Look 20 years ago, woke meant you understood iraq didn’t have weapons of mass destruction
Woke meant you understood the drug war/prison industry complex/school to prison pipeline was obvious and despicable
But that’s not what it means today
And that is the lefts fault It’s the fault of the mainstream neoliberal media and the universities.
If you want to be upset that the term work became a pejorative?
You have no one else to blame, but the DNC and the neo liberal media And universities. Aka WOKE INC.
The conservatives and disaffected liberals Were right to be dismissive Of those ideologies and tactics They were fraudulent and disingenuous
Words change over time
This word changed because of the DNC and liberal media And universities ideological propaganda.
I don’t understand why so many lefties are so insulted by Woke becoming a pejorative? Lol
It’s like being upset because someone calls you a liberal. Instead of a progressive. Or lefty.
“Thats not what it means” lol. No one used or gave a shit about that word Until it began to be criticized because the policies and ideologies being promoted Were exposed as fraudulent and counterproductive.
It’s just such a stupid argument to have
The words meaning changed
That’s not the conservatives fault
They were right to criticize Woke Incorporated Because it was highlighted and criticized. We were able to Kick those people out of office.
If you really care about being aware of social injustice Blame the DNC /media/universities for co-opting the term and making it a pejorative.
All the conservatives (and disaffected progressives like myself ) Did was recognize that whatever the term used to mean is not what it currently means. And we reject what it currently means in represents.
It’s like arguing for the swastika lol because it used to be an ancient Buddhist symbol for cyclical nature of reality. 😂
I agree 100% and just commented the same exact thing. This is the lefts fault for cramming this down our throats and now it's coming back to bight them!!!
I disagree, out of all the cashier’s I work with there is 1 guy. 1.
I commented on your podcast. I’m a DEI hire I’m a white 59 disabled woman. My bosses can’t stand me because I don’t kiss a$$. I come in 5 minutes early usually work later if needed. I’m the least paid and I’ve been there 3 years, much love and respect from SC❤
I’ve been the only black one on my team for 17 years. Enough said.
Oh, I've been there. I get it.
DEI is not only about race or sex. DEI hire is anyone who was hired only for their identifying characteristics instead of their merit.
Very good point. However when you look at every major company org charts, every other minority group benefited from Affirmative Action and DEI more than black people. Hence it is mostly associated to black only.
YES! And people are WRONG for thinking that. Also...whites also benefitted from Affirmative Action.
Like all things, the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other.
This is the problem with programs like DEI: it denigrates all of the well-qualified “minorities’” positions. When my husband (white) was hired for his position, the Big Boss required the next hire to be “a young Hispanic female”. That hire lasted about six years in the job, and she SUUUCKED.
I’m a fan of meritocracy. Often, this standard hurts me (I’m pretty mediocre in most arenas). I dgaf what color, creed, or orientation a person is in any position; I just want the best, most effective person in the job.
Thanks for being willing to talk about this contentious issue!
Affirmative action hire is the same meaning! Funny they know exactly the implication is that your child immutable characteristics is your highest qualification!
Thomas sowell take on this is what I believe!
The presence of DEI in the hiring process is what is toxic!!!! Put the blame in the correct place!!!!
That type of common sense thinking has already been deemed raycist. Meritocracy and color blindness likewise are potentially incorrect ways of thinking to many people unfortunately
I don't believe it is a slur now granted to some people use it that way of course there will always be ignorant people but let's take you're example Karen bass what are her accomplishments ? What are her qualifications? Clearly she is not qualified to do her job so people calling her a dei hire is not racist or wrong it's the truth it's a matter of fact she was not elected by merit she was elected because just like that fire chief said she " looks like you " like that has anything to do whit being adept at youre job
I notice that big companies like Target are now getting out of the DEI business. While I understand that DEI could be used in the right way, these big companies that are using DEI are, in my opinion, using it so they don't get accused of racism. Also, DEI should not be used as a slur against someone over a hire.
Just compare the Karoline Leavitt to her predecessor, Raggedy Anne. You're going to seriously tell me Karine Jean-Pierre wasn't a DEI hire? Nothing to do with her being black, lesbian, LGBTQ, and whatever...
Karine was a total FLOP. Just like Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who refused to define what a woman was "because she's not a Biologist" during the nomination hearing.
Conversely, you DON'T hear anyone accusing Justice Thomas as a DEI hire. Why? BECAUSE HE'S INTELLIGENT. People may disagree with his rulings, but if you READ his opinions vs Brown's, you'd get it.
I heard Tim Walz (a white man) called a DEI hire quite a bit during the past USA election.
Anytime you emphasize anything (physical trait etc) over merit there is going to be distrust, regardless of the original intent. People are all frustrated at each other and online trolls only make the divide wider.
I've struggled at times, asking myself, did I earn this or was it given to me because I'm not a white man? In the end I look at what I am capable of and if that is honestly comparable to my co worker's. If it's not, I step up. If it is, I take it as validation that I'm where I deserve to be.
I hate the idea that asking myself if I'm a DEI or token hire is such a natural question for me to think about. The government made it this way by pushing anything besides merit
It is left's way of keeping you down. They have control over you, as long as they keep you believing you are a victim. They want you to believe that you can only make it with the help of the government.
That is definitely not saying that the conservatives are our knights in shining armour.
If you are “uncomfortable” with the phrase “DEI hire”, then stop complaining and HELP end that nonsense!
It was said an uncomfortable amount of times and is absolutely a dog whistle. End of story. You can hate what DEI had become...and it has become extreme. But, understand what's at play here.
I agree it's a slur. Unfortunately it's a consequence of open hiring practices that have opened the door for bigots who will use any excuse to belittle people who don't look like them. In Kamala Harris' situation, because of Biden's statement, that accusation immediately came out. I agree that 'legacy admissions ' also have to go.
I agree with you. I wish Biden had never led with Harris' race. He should have just said she is super qualified to lead and she deserves your vote. Let people say they want a black person, etc. But, the bigots will belittle the folks who don't look like them. Thanks for watching.
THIS needed to be said. And, i was surprised how many r rupping off their masks. Sadly, BM say this for BW too. Incompetence comes in all shapes, sizes, shades.
I definitely disagree with this. Ive looked for jobs when my husband left me, im white and straight, and i was passed over for not being diverse enough. I also used to be in hiring and we were pushed to specifically look for preferred pronouns even though those candidates were often worst employees who caused the most problems for us.
I personally have never seen it as a "black" thing. Ever. Ive seen it as a "we wont hire the white person unless they have they/them pronouns on their application or identify as lgbt.
This, over any other, is the one topic that made me want to make videos again.
With every utterance of the word is the not-so-hidden implication that we were put in a position not because of our ability but because of our race.
An "affirmative action hire" has always been a thing, and it stands as one of the biggest accusations that make us feel like we have to work 10x as hard as a white person to show we belong there. But I believe the point you make @5:44 is one often over looked. If anyone wondered why we went from the occasionally uttered "affirmative action hire" on the lips of a racist to "DEI hire" on news stations - I think that's the reason. Point to a singular group of people and tell them they're the cause of all the evils in the world - and I think any group would get defensive.
Yeah, they got nasty, some racists took off their masks but, we should consider whether we helped push them there.
Then you should be the first person to call for the abolishment of programs like DEI and AA. Then, there would be no question.
Biden at campaign rally said he chose harris cause DEI. 😂. Its easy to find
THATS WHY HE CHOSE HER. Thats what he said.
The Bahamian Gyal rediscovering her Black Nationalist roots?
You have GOT to be kidding with this comment.
Interesting, because some of these people never seem to have an issue hiding behind their status as minorities once their leadership or job capabilities gets called into question. Or is that just my white fragility talking because I feel threatened because I might lose my white privilege, which of course allows me to get whatever it is I want in life, which is why I am a trillionaire. What exactly did everyone honestly think the outcome of any of this was going to be? That we would all start holding hands and singing Kumbya? Nobody seen the writing on the wall? Nobody seen the resentment or hostility coming, especially after everyone has had to have this stuff rammed up the backside for the last 8yrs, by almost every single outlet. DEI is garbage, and it is exactly the reasons you have mentioned that make it so. How about this question, if 5 people are in a room for an interview for the same job, and all five people are very equally qualified for the one job, and 1 person in that room is black, is the said outcome due to that person being black?
I live in a part of Florida that’s so diverse that DEI only shows up on flickering screens and DEI would probably be an insult. Most people I know are Christian or Christian adjacent in their beliefs so judging people on their skin color is mostly taboo.
I kind of live in a bubble and I think “DEI” and policies like that are psyopps
DEI wouldn't have such negative connection if the E was about equality instead of equity which is equality of outcome instead of opportunity in which incompetence slips thru the cracks and the opportunity to excel in a job might be lost in the need for company to maximize profit which is actually what the company's goal is in order to stay in business. Which makes DEI a case of caring more about a paintjob over the motorm
Is it possible for an able-bodied cis straight white male to be a dei hire? I thought dei was based on the idea that white men had all the jobs and the only way anyone not fitting the description would ever be hired is if employers were forced to do so. At least the simplified version of what I’ve heard over the years
DEI has cheapened the achievements of people regardless of ethnicity or sex or sexuality it may not have set out to be but it’s been corrupted by the individuals who were looking for a quick way to show how virtuous than thou they are/were in my opinion.
Ive been paying some attention this whole DEI thing, and what ive seen is somewhat abuse of the idea, and it's unintended outcomes. For eg., the major beneficiaries are unfortunately not the ones most people expected. Maybe we should all agree to revert to merit based systems. Also, maybe the lesser we talk about race, the lesser the racial problems we'd see.
Wow, what a concept........you mean true competition.
I believe some people would not have a base if they didn't talk about race.
I think we as a society have been so hyper focused on diversity that it’s backfired .. When all we talk about is race and sexuality etc we begin to give the impression that that matters MORE then merits.. performance .. experience etc.. Creating yet another sphere of phobias and racism…Businesses had to meet certain benchmarks based on % of minorities hired ..to “look good” .. I don’t know if it realistically solved much long term…Affirmative action had limited results too.. People also forget that EQUITY and EQUALITY aren’t the same… Some go as far as to say that this equity path is a slippery slope to communism..
So agree! Those things are part of us but not what makes us who we are! Your skin color doesn’t define you it’s just a small part!
Affirmative action hire is the same meaning! Funny they know exactly the implication is that your child immutable characteristics is your highest qualification!
Thomas sowell take on this is what I believe!
The presence of DEI in the hiring process is what is toxic!!!! But the blame in the correct place!!!!
Simone Biles earned her gold, not because she was a black woman, but she worked hard to earn it (Acts 10:34).
Simone Biles was quoted in the Bible?
No.
I am just very passionate about the scriptures, and like b to use that as the backbone of my ethical comments, like the statement Peter said to Cornelius to promote a Theocratic view of equality (Acts 10:34; Romans 10:2).
@@josephkessler5831 I was just joking.
What I admire about our black and immigrant citizens is even when they were down on their luck, they pulled themselves up and worked hard and many became superstars and success stories, especially after the civil rights era. Affirmative action helped when it was introduced, yes, but only by a small margin, which I found interesting. I think without it, we'd still see people of different backgrounds making their way through the ranks and this use of "DEI Hire" as a backhanded insult would disappear. I don't want companies and universities to withhold opportunities from minorities, but at the same time, history shows they're more than capable of making their way without the helping hand, because now everyone has equal opportunity. As you stated, many find it insulting that one would think they can't make it without these hiring processes or programs, which is why I think we're seeing so much backlash. It's an insult to integrity. I think we'd all be pissed if we found out we were hired to fill a quota or if others perceived us that way. It's a messy situation and I can't get all my thoughts out in a comment lol We can call out incompetence without regressing to an openly defamatory dialogue. People are getting way too comfortable with it. We can call out failure as we see it, but for people who really did earn their place by taking risks and opportunities, we need to stop resenting their success.
The thing is, diversity has always been here it's just been saturated with the years and then people, especially those with ill intent for their own personal gain that people don't remember it was normal. But so is also nepotism and a few racist that continue this with each generation of all colors. Not just white.
DEI or nepotism are they the same thing???
The only person that know why you were hired is the boss…..
Yt women are the main beneficiaries of DEI. Just like with Affirmative Action. But black people are the FACE of both. We get scapegoated and degraded when these programs really don’t benefit to a large degree compared to what Yt women get. We need to pull back a little from these National dialogs and really look at what’s going on behind the scenes before we pick up our capes when emotions are high. Black folks need to look toward each other and start organizing economically instead of depending on these governments. I don’t care about these name callers who are deluded about what’s going on.
I keep telling black people this but I get called names.
DEI isn't a great thing. They hire women instead because they can pay us less! No men so no reason to compare your salary to a man but to a woman who is making similar if not the same.
That's why men can't find work. They rather pay women less and pretend as if it's a favor.
Where is your evidence to support that white women are benefitting the most? Also, why don't you spell out 'white'?
Okay, I did some digging and did find some stats and papers to support that white women have historically benefited the most from DEI policies. This means very little, however. Most of the population is white presenting, so it begs to reason that once DEI policies were in place, the largest demographic it benefitted (i.e. white women, since white MEN did not count) would be helped the most. Context revolving statistics matters a lot.
I feel like race hustlers are to blame honestly. The Al Sharton's of the world are doing way more damage to the black community and the world than good.
I see what you're saying, but i think it's not quite so black and white.
I think a lot of people saying it are just repeating a phrase they've heard that describes a phenomenon they're seeing, and that is probably the majority. Some people absolutely are using it in a more charged way.
I agree with how this word has become, but do not agree with the cause of why it has become. It was the corporates that started the DEI hires and the people who support it actively bragged about it. Despite all the negativity around this term now, there's nothing about this term that was misunderstood by the general public. All it's meanings and associations of this word came from it's advocators, so they can only blame themselves now, and the general public has their freedom to use any established words as they feel free even if it now is an insulting word.
I think DEI is bad for everyone. It’s better to improve oneself so you can compete than to lower standards and/or give preferential treatment to certain groups.
I would like to be hired not because of my ethnic background which is diverse. I would like to be hired because I'm capable and the best choice for the job not because they're trying to accommodate an agenda. Being hired because of pity is demoralizing.
Soooo I have to disagree with your argument. Sam Brinton, Rachel Levine, K.J.P, and many others who were without a shadow of a doubt D.E.I HIRES(these people were hired on something other than BEST QUALIFIED)
I’m going to disagree this time with your video. I’m going to take a little different approach to this. I think it’s the corporations fault most of the time. I’m sure if they took just a little more time they could find qualified candidates for the DEI positions. It seems like they find the worse candidate possible. Some of these people I see working have no busy being there. Also they are not being trained for the job they are asked to do. If we are being honest with ourselves, we all know some people that are horrible at their jobs. The only way to fix it is to hire the most qualified person. So lets everyone up our game and get out there to find that dream job.
I’ve been dem my whole life…started watching more conservative…voted for trump (who I use to hate) and DEI was branded very differently…I’ll admit I had some blinders to what it actually was,…thank you for posting this lovely lady who is articulating this concept in a way I can understand ❤❤ love your videos even if I disagree I always learn something respectfully taught ❤❤ 11:11
This is actually making me extremely upset because I love ❤️ everyone that’s a good person. I have friends from all over the world. For some reason I only watch black platforms and I’m not even black. But I have been seeing in many black platforms blk people saying extremely negative things about Latino people specifically Mexican. This is exactly what the media wants to divide us instead of supporting. It’s just sad seeing this . This made me really emotional how the media will do this. I love black people and everyone that’s is a great person. It was sad seeing blk people being so rude to my Latino community. This is what the media wants to distract and divide! This broke my heart!! I’m going to start deleting and stop watching certain black entertainment on RUclips that I loved
It's extremely sad. No one is above or below anyone else, and I wish people would remember that. Anyone can be racist, but anyone can choose to love all human beings instead.
I don't agree with LOWERING standards so "under-presented" groups can "qualify," whether you're talking about the military, MEDICAL school entrance exams, firefighting, etc.
NJ even tried to do away with the TEACHER'S exam.
No, no, no.
You'll have to revisit your stance on this one. Sorry, girlfriend.
Wait wait wait. So, you think I believe that companies should LOWER standards so that minorities can qualify. You are absolutely mistaken. I believe I expressed in my video, that being a minority doesn't mean you are unqualified. Of course I want the person who is most qualified to have the position. But, even when that qualified person is hired, they are called a DEI hire just because they are a minority. Obama was highly educated and I read comments calling him a DEI president. Are you serious?
Didn't need DEI for a company to respect different religious needs, that's part of the 1st Amendment and Civil Rights Act of 1964. I have never agreed with companies trying to fulfill quotas in hiring, it's had multiple names & it's not right. Diversity of thoughts & opinions, should be what's desired, I believe you have more innovation and out of the box thinking that way.
I work in healthcare. Long term care to be exact, and we all must be DEI hires LOL! Five male caregivers out of 20+. 3 white nurses out of nine. 2 white caregivers out of 20+. We are always hiring no matter what you look like. Are you breathing? You're hired. White people, specifically white Americans don't want to do the jobs in elder care that are needed. As a matter of fact most Americans of any race or gender don't want the work. Most of the people I work with English is not their first language. On my shift (graveyard) I have me and seven caregivers. Myself and one of the caregivers are the only ones born in the US. All the shifts are like that.
People that use these terms towards people from non dominant groups who actually earned it is a form of conservatism and hinders progressivism. I mean I like seeing people from other backgrounds taking on a position that they are historically underrepresented in.
I work at a black owned, all black employee place so I haven't noticed anything, personally, but especially on social media...yes!!! Every 'other' is a DEI! It's definitely become a slur!🤦🏽♀️
I'm of 2 minds about this I think some ppl use dei as a slur and it's not always justified in calling someone that but it does exist and is out there and it's not always positive and I don't think it just refers to non white either
I'm surprised this is somewhat more woke than before. I don't mean to be rude, just saying, because I thought this was a conservative channel; wasn't it?
No, it's not. I asked people to stop putting me in a box. I always said that on my platform I would criticize Donald Trump when I needed to and support when I needed to. I have not strayed from that.
This is such an interesting topic and really needed your perspective. The past few months I have noticed the word DEI in all the comments and to be honest and I had no idea what it meant 😔. I had to google the definition. We all need to do better ❤️❤️❤️
“Doing better” would be hiring the best person for the job, not crying about the term “DEI hire” and trying to make it about race. Y’all wanna be victims so bad 💀💀💀💀
I don't know about flying planes, but in my job as Corrections Officer , I've seen plenty of people being promoted whp were promoted because the powers that be have decided that they want 'diversity ' in certain positions. I have also seen people promoted because they belong to a certain clique or crowd. Not necessarily because of minority status. How about we just hire people who can do the damn job regardless of whp they are. I'm straight up d I ne with this crap. If they prove to be incompetent, than fire them
Despicably Exponentially Incompetent is what IMMEDIATELY pops in my thoughts WHEN I read that acronym or hear it.
I never benefited from dei, but now after this, I will have to be on guard because even after working hard I will be put in the same boat as the dei hires who ruined the company's because they weren't qualified!😢