Unlikely Snowstorm Rescue Saves Alleged Killer | Alan Lee Phillips Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Alan Lee Phillips?
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I cannot believe the risks me and many other young people took back in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s when traveling. Hitchhiking was endemic back when I was a teenager. And yes, even though I was a big young guy who could take care of himself in normal circumstances, a gun or knife at my throat would have educated me painfully to my real lack of self defense skills. So many young people were preyed upon by career criminals and psychopaths.
We did it in the 90’s too. One time I got into a car with two guys in it. It was me and two other GFs. They had a gun in the glove box. Never hitch hiked again.
@bruins People might be able to access other people more easily and possibly then commit crimes due to technological advancements. However, I don't think getting away with it is easier now than it was 30+ years ago. We are much more technologically advanced providing an opportunity to catch people committing crimes. We have DNA, phone tracing, access to peoples search histories and CCTV. There was a murder a few years back near where I live and the killer was caught because his Tesco shopping club card was found a the scene.
Yeah.....so true. My girlfriend and I were taken into the cane fields by an Asian dude who picked us up....luckily, as the daughter of a bank President, she carried mace....it worked.
@@86sineadw
And everybody has a phone on them. Dial 911 and the killer is likely caught. Sadly, you might get injured or even die in the process.
@bruins Awe right hahahaha
I'm left wondering how many other victims? No way he did this just once. And twice in one day!
That is what I wonder too... many of these guys marry, have children and just go on with their lives???
There is no way that you just do that and it not change you inside.
I love cheese
Yes he is a repeat offender in my mind. Two in one night?
@@Raminakai They marry, have children, and STILL continue their creepy activities! They may slow down a bit with age just due to natural decline, but I don't think many of them--if any--actually turn into decent humans after serial killing/assaults.
Yes, Raminakai. It does change us forever, but some of us move on to become (slightly?) better people. There's no statute of limitations for murder-and that's good b/c it's the most serious crime. Thankfully, I never committed that crime, but the things I got away with as a teenager still weigh on my mind and I think they will never go away. I really relate to Alex from A Clockwork Orange. I just want to grow old and be peaceful at this point (chapter 21 of the book). I had enough of the "ultra-violence".
39 years for justice system to recognize this case. And yet it wasn't just one body but two bodies. You wonder what else they missed in other cases untouched for years.
Great video I always like the cases that have a twist or the answer is right in front of their eyes.
Most cops were "C" students. The only way they ever catch anyone is that most criminals were "F" students.
This case has been extensively investigated. Read about the entire history! Not every case can be solved in an hour like on TV.
@@johnthompson7420 your probably right. Book smart doesn't make you a Cop.
I don't know, if it's true, but I'd heard, that until recent improvements in technology and forensic science, that only 40% of murders were solved. Of those 40% which were solved, many were obvious, so didn't take a lot of investigation. Because of the added attention, high profile murders often would be solved, but little or no attention was paid to digging into lower profile murders, especially if they were seen as one bad criminal killing another bad criminal. Unfortunately also, if the murder involved victims of humble means, their loved ones usually also of humble means, had to get on with their work and their lives, so couldn't afford to take very much time out to push law enforcement, to solve their loved one's murder beyond a week or two, so the case would end up in the deep freeze of the Cold Case File Cabinet.
There’s only so much they could do. Stranger killings are very hard to solve, especially pre-cellphones and pre-DNA.
Makes you wonder what other crimes he committed in the following 39 years.
yeah , I still cant believe it took the police this long.2 women murdered, one of the women is known to have injured the attacker, a man is picked up by authorities with facial injuries on the same day of the crime...........surely someone should have put 2 and 2 together and tested his DNA in the 90`s !
They didn't have genetic geneology in the 90s. It's not just dna, they make a family tree and trace the branches.
I was wondering the same, the police should check any other local crimes
It would have been doable. Test his direct DNA against the found blood DNA. It would not have been necessary to go to genealogical DNA. Just a direct comparison.
@@georgewagner7787 Not only local crimes. Perhaps he changed behaviour and only did new crimes while travelling?
His DNA needs to be compared to other murders. These 2 girls aren't his only victims
I believe that as well.
He didn't only do this type of thing a couple of times.
I agree his DNA needs to be Cross - Referenced for comparison to other unsolved Cases.
Coming from 35 years of law enforcement/ crime scene experience, Any DNA collected by law enforcement (crime scenes and arrested subjects, and sometimes missing persons and unidentified bodies) nationwide is ‘supposed’ to be entered into the FBI Combined DNA Index System (CODIS). Basically, any new DNA is checked against the existing database that has over 3 million samples. With new homicides, the evidence is certainly entered. When Phillip’s case was reopened, his DNA would be run through the system. The problem is with older cases that have gone cold and closed, the DNA may never have been entered. Also, there are jurisdictions where, believe it or not, the DNA will not be run on a rape case if no suspect is identified. Some cities may have thousands of rape kits that have never been analyzed.
Ha! The 1980s. Police: Why are you taking this dangerous road?
Driver: I'm intoxicated and I was trying to get home.
Police: Ok, have a nice night. Stay safe.
What an incredible analysis, Dr. Grande!
"I think the irony in this case is that Alan Phillips, allegedly shot two people, and was okay leaving them in the snow to die a horrible death, but was so intolerant of the cold himself...." That is something that I've observed so often; how these monsterous criminals have so much sympathy, for only themselves.
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Classic... Just one more way that fast food can be dangerous. That was absolutely hilarious . had to turn it back and watch that part again
Such DRY humor, indeed!!!
It was the only type of humor that would have been appropriate in this case. 🥺
Genetic Genealogy FTW! My younger brother and I used it to research and identify who our biological mother was that abandoned us at a motel ~50 years ago (4 and 2 1/2 years old respectively). It was our great Scooby Doo moment as “she would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids” 😅😂🤣😭
That is sad. She must've been not in the right state of mind. Hurt passes from generation to generation unless someone is really exceptional and stops the cycle. I hope you had your childhood with good people.
The desperation she must have been in is unutterable
@@thisgirl5933 - I absolutely destroyed the cycle. I never considered it from being exceptional though. It was more like resilience.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah - Actually, she was single mother with two children from different fathers and abandoned us so she could pursue a relationship with a man who was somewhat of a small celebrity. She was pregnant just 7 months later and married the man a few months after giving birth. Although not officially diagnosed, a close acquaintance of hers whom I’d interviewed and had became a therapist later in life said she’d best categorize our biological mother as a Sociopath. So yeah, desperation. Desperate to get rid of us for the chance of a better life. And even though it wasn’t the greatest experience being in and out of foster homes for 3 years until we were finally adopted and all of the childhood trauma that often comes along with it, we absolutely ended up having a better life by comparison.
@@SeanFromTX Really glad to hear that! There are many factors that make us who we are, but good, sometimes hard and courageous choices are necessary so good for you!
Sad but fascinating case. Makes me wonder how many criminals from cold cases prior to DNA forensics and elective ancestral DNA databases are just waiting to see if they'll be caught.
Genetic genealogy is groundbreaking and I hope those people are sweating waiting for their day to come!
@@DottieMinerva yes
I've often wondered the same thing since we're hearing of so many cold cases being solved recently via DNA. It's great to see these evil people finally get caught.
That someone in an aircraft recognised an SOS signal,the pilot reporting the incident and two light aircraft searching for him is completely beyond belief
As always, you're right on time Doc! Boy do I appreciate your consistency and you're work in general.
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@@MeganVictoriaKearns ~NOOOO!! Actually the original commenter use the correct form of the word. Caitlyn used *You're* which means you are, which is the exact correct form of the word for the sentence she used. You tried to correct her by saying she was supposed to use the *your* form of the word which is totally and completely incorrect. The form you told her she was supposed to use is used when you're saying something along the lines of "oh I like your shirt" so in all honesty, you should delete your comment because you tried to correct her when she is the correct one and you're totally incorrect 🤷♀️
Caitlyn Milton~Good morning😎 I couldn't help but stick up for you in this situation considering the fact that you didn't need to be corrected at all because your comment is 100% grammatically correct!! I hope*you're* having a great day so far 😁😅
@@annalisegiovanni7032 Sorry, *you're* wrong. The commentor was most likely correcting the third *your* in the comment, which was actually incorrect. Although the first two were correct, so it was probably an autocorrect error. The commentor obviously knows the proper usage of "you're & your." I would've let it go.
@@annalisegiovanni7032 Course I spelled *commenter* wrong! 😂🙄
I wonder why a person would kill two random strangers in one night, then never commit another crime. Or are there other cases the investigators are now looking into?
Wow, I lived not far from this guy for several years and I am recently living in Colorado again. I’m glad the authorities picked him up.
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So what if they didn't pick him up, you still wouldn't know anything about it, he's 70 years old fart, and the whole story is meh.
@mike christian
Oh no, very far from that. But the original commenter wrote about it from his perspective. That's why I answered him that way.
@mike christian
He said "I lived near that guy.... But I now live again there. Good they have picked him up"
It's like that any of this has to do with him. At least that's how I saw it.
@@ZoeF.O doesn’t matter, he belongs in jail for his crimes.
I live here and this story has become almost like a local folklore. It’s too crazy. No one can believe all the randomness of it.
Doctor has now officially analyzed half of the population of the US. 😄
😂🤣😂 you're right!
Can you please do a playlist on anxiety and panic disorder? As a healthcare worker in the ER, I have been struggling with my mental health and would like to better understand my condition. I’m sure many others would also benefit from this.
It seems Dr Grande has moved towards solely doing these types of videos, a shame but there are a lot of older ones on specific MH subjects. Another good You Tube channel for these types of videos is Dr Tracey Marks
Try checking out his older videos
Dr. Tracy marks has some videos you might like. I also recently saw "psychology in seattle" w Dr. Kirk Honda had a podcast talking about panic attacks that I marked to watch later myself.
Hope you're alright Amber. Stay strong and I wish you all the best.
Prob the ER is not the best for anxiety disorder
Imagine this guy ,after all them years ,getting pulled over for speeding and they charge him with a murder that he figured he got away with? LOL
There are many people shaking in their boots because of DNA now a days. And now they use family tree to catch them. Dont even have to have a record on file. Great job!!!
I'd like to have seen them tell him, "There's a pending warrant for your arrest. We're going to have to detain you."
"What's the charge?"
"Murder and kidnapping."
Eons ago it was said by a Wise man that, "All would be revealed, all would come to light." And it surely is.
They should have to live in fear the rest of their lives.
Did he try twice; fail twice and then gave up his predatory ways forever?
I wonder if that EVER happens?
I wonder if it’s time to investigate/reopen other crimes -especially those in a similar area with similar looking victims…🤭
Which ones?
Good question!
@@eadweard. TBH i’ve never been anywhere near the Rocky Mountains so I wouldn’t know but it just seemed unlikely to me (uneducated as I am about murder) that someone would try; fail and then try again in so brazen a fashion, throughout and then call it a day & go on to be a fine Upstanding citizen into their 70s…
But I suppose not every killer is a serial killer so maybe I’m just jumping to conclusions🤷♂️?
@@BeesWaxMinder It's an entirely reasonable idea.
@@eadweard. thanks BUT, of course, I hope I’m totally wrong🤞
Such irony that a sociopath would be saved by an organized and generous society . . . and likely many people involved in the rescue had teenage daughters or nieces and had no idea
God had big things in mind for him, and God has no sense of urgency.
Its amazing the authorities didn't put 2 and 2 together considering the location of the two victims and his location.
I think they suspected him, but it wasn't till genealogical DNA testing became available that a match was found. His DNA wasn't in a database.
@@gaiaiulia They could test his closes for gun powder. Compare his tiers marks. Could calculate his movement minute after minute. I think they did bad job.
@@Niksky2 you are correct because the detectives at the time now admit they botched it
Justice for these women and their families was long in coming…but it did come. I’m thankful!
How someone can commit such an atrocious crime and go on and live a relatively normal life is beyond me.
You are good at retell the cases in such a way that i can almost picture the crime scenes in my head. As if i was there as the authorities first came to the scenes.
“As if I was there as the authorities first came to the scene” 😳
@@Kissthebottle68
I don't like that sentence either. It's creepy and it doesn't fit in here.
Although hitchhiking seems crazy to people today, during the Great Depression in the 1930's, through World War II in the 1940's, the US government encouraged it in order to save resources. They actually went as far as to run PSA's in movie theatres along with the cartoons to encourage it. As a result, Baby Boomer's parents hitchhiked and picked up hitchhikers, so Baby Boomers saw it as normal, so they did it too.
Statistically, hitchhiking wasn't as dangerous as it seems now, but I still wouldn't recommend it be a regular habit, but instead used reluctantly in an emergency or exceptional situation, as there certainly were terrible incidences. For instance, when they were kids, Duane and Greg Allman's, of The Allman Brothers Band, father picked up a hitchhiker who murdered him, so picking up a hitchhiker can also be dangerous.
Anyhow, People now don't know, that the federal government popularized hitchhiking.
I'm dumbfounded! I had no idea! Thanks for sharing!!
Sparky - that’s an amazing fact, I’ve never heard - EVER. Wow. We live in a wild wild world.
America was a lot safer then. Once we asked my parents , born in 1927 and 1933, where they were on D day. My mom said she and her 16 year old cousin were on the bus back from Oklahoma to NY where they had been visiting their grandmother.
Sparky, my mother was a North Dakota farm girl who joined the Navy as a nurse during WW II. She and some of her friends would hitchhike from one adventure to another, usually with truck drivers. The truckers would scold them and tell them how dangerous it was....but they would give them the rides anyway. In my mother's eyes: mission accomplished. I hadn't heard about the info you provided about hitchhiking during the Depression and WWII with encouragement from the government. Interesting!
That makes sense
The odds of anyone seeing the flashes and recognizing that those flashes were Morse code and knowing what that sequence means is astronomical in todays world.
Is it? I don't mean it in a conceited or facetious way, but don't all kids learn SOS? Maybe they don't! But it was like a rite of passage in my age group in my area. You know, like learning to ride a bike or roller blading (if you had either), climbing at least one tree or throwing sticks into the river on one side of the bridge and running over to the other to see whose came first ;) Also, every third adventure book for youngsters mentions the SOS signal. But my perspective might be skewed.
Not necessarily. There are a lot of people involved in Search & Rescue in the United States. Myself included. Each state has a number of SAR personnel. These include: (active & retired) Law Enforcement, Fire Rescue, Military, FEMA teams, K9 SAR and volunteer SAR. We all go through hundreds of hours of training as well as yearly re-certification. Most, if not all of us, know Morse Code, compass & map skills, land navigation and other skills.
I don't think recognition is necessary. I would question lights flashing on and off continually.
Even if I didn't recognize SOS
Any pilot would recognize it.
@@ReSearcherSusie Hey, thank you for including K-9SAR!
Very intriguing case, it indeed portrays many low probability events!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.❤️
Low probabilities we can only Hope!
The airplane was going from Denver to Colorado. Im going to speculate that in this situation, Dr. Grande made a mistake and didn't catch it before reading his notes live.
Or, he’s waiting & watching to see who was actually paying attention?! (I bet on the latter!)😉
Came here looking for this comment (3:20) 😆
I found it somewhat amazing that someone knew morse code, even for back then,
and then for someone on a plane to decode it.
39 years later, genetic genealogy Alan.
Look like he didn't pass through technology's advancements either.
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There are a lot of people involved in Search & Rescue in the United States. Myself included. Each state has a number of SAR personnel. These include: (active & retired) Law Enforcement, Fire Rescue, Military, FEMA teams, K9 SAR and volunteer SAR. We all go through hundreds of hours of training as well as yearly re-certification. Most, if not all of us, know Morse Code, compass & map skills, land navigation and other skills.
I don't know morse code but SOS is intentionally easy to know, it's just dot-dot-dot dash-dash-dash dot-dot-dot
@@blueboats7530 indeed ! As a kid I recall thinking "that makes sense" that the repeated letter (S) would be "dots" rather than dashes, so the SOS message would be "quicker" than if it were the other way around. I suppose it's happenstance, but 3 DOT; 3 DASHES; 3 DOTS remains, happily, relatively easy to repeat ! B-)
3 dots 3 dashes 3 dots. Not too complicated. Not surprising that pilots would know that! Handy to be in a car! Modern led torches have it as an option. Any flashing light would be noticeable.
In the dark with no light or fog you use a whistle on bang a drum. I think 3 or possibly 6 blows on a whistle.
As for back then? Radios were new and analog and everyone knew how they worked... It was the equivalent of the Internet. Kids toys had Morse code. Radios had the code on them.
I think people are stupid(er) now...they don't have the most basic knowledge to survive...an important one is dont trust anyone you don't know. Always have an escape plan.
The SOS signal aspects are unbelievable. 😝 (Except that 2 people knew the morse SOS.) Definitely one for the books in bizarre coincidences and B movie lame plot hole patches.
Just about everybody knew SOS, frequently taught in schools, definitely taught if you were in scouting, a frequent plot twist in tv dramas, you could get a decoder ring out of a cereal box. LOL.
With these solved cold cases I always wonder what it would be like to be the family of the perpetrator. Imagine finding out your dad/grandpa/husband of years was a murderer all that time.
Doesn’t matter, I would still hate him for murdering people.
Yeah, Iwonder if his behavior with his family made them wary, or did they have no idea.
It would be disturbing. I think you’d feel guilty for any good times you had with him, and for not somehow knowing. But unless the man in question is a bad guy or creepy, why would you guess?
@@amyholman354 I think the families don’t believe the accusations. They will stand by and stay in denial. It’s far more comfortable.
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"In a situation like this" great title for a movie Dr. Grande.
Almost at a million Dr.G! When people ask, I’ll be able to tell them I was an OG Dr. Grande watcher.
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Dr. Grande, I was getting sleepy but I couldn't resist trying to watch this video. As usual, you kept my interest. And, your voice is pleasant, even though I was tired. Your analysis did not disappoint. Thanks for all your excellent work. 👍💜🌵
Short short short long long long short short short
Just in case anyone gets stuck somewhere and thought the Morse code idea was brilliant.
Thank you forgot about that
I need to learn how to flash SOS with my headlights. Wow.
Very easy to learn. But absolutely no one these days would understand!
So good that police continued searching for their killers, after so many years.Stay in prison,u monster.
Hopefully, the DNA evidence seals his fate and the jury convicts him. With the odds that this guy has overcome already in his life, you never know. I'll keep my fingers crossed that his luck has finally run out. 🤞
@@invisiblemissx true!
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Agreed. Fast food will be your undoing in one way or another. This one was very compelling. Thank you Dr. Grande.
Those poor girls. He treated them like they were nothing - absolutely despicable. I feel for his family - if they didn't already know what he did, imagine how awful it would feel to discover this about your husband or your Dad!! What a horrible man - I'm glad they've caught him.
Every time I think I’ve heard it all Dr Grande shows me I’ve barely scratched the surface! Watching your videos is one of the highlights of my day. 😊👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Good morning Dr G!
Out off topic, I'm before watching this video, just wanted to say that I love seeing growth of subscribers everytime I go on Dr Grande's channel, nice to watch bigger and bigger support for content with such an educational value.
This video is a homerun for Dr. Grande. You captured every aspect of what we love about your site. Thanks!
What a story! Prayers for the families involved
This is a wild one, for sure
I like cheese
Why pray?
I'm confused as to they would hitch hike when offered a ride by your friends.
Baffled me too, what a tragic decision.
I can only imagine being one of the friends who offered her a ride but she said she'd prefer to hitchhike and was then was murdered.
Although there's no way they could have known, I would have needed serious therapy for the amount of regret and self-blame I would have struggled with food years after the fact. 😥
Justice delayed by 39 years is not really justice, but I guess it’s better than nothing.
I get the feeling that he's a serial killer. I hope they look really, really deeply into his past.
I feel like I'm becoming so much more cultured thanks to Dr Grande... I've had no fucking clue who half these people are, until he so kindly informs me. The best part is that I find I generally laugh out loud multiple times during each of his videos. < 3 Dr Grande has the best sense of humor.
Well you still say "no fucking clue", Eliza, but you're making progress.
I was a ski instructor at Breck. There is a lot of dark and weird stuff that happens there that most tourists would never guess, from deaths of all sorts to homeless people living in the woods just blocks from main street. Even gang activity, esp at the clubs.
Dr.Grande I watch all your videos and I have subscribed. I believe u too be a very professional man with great interests in teaching others and I admire your non-bias theories & notable explanations.
If u could ask if you that you do a video on Chrystul Kizer? I have signed petitions and made fundraisers for this girl until she was released from prison. Would like to hear a case analysis on your end about her please. 🙏
The Morse Code incident isn't that much of a coincidence. SOS would be 3 short flashes 3 long flashes 3 short flashes and it was (is?) well known. I currently have a flashlight/lantern that gives the SOS pattern that was only purchased fairly recently.
Even though I can't reliably remember wich is the s and which the o, if I saw anyone flashing anything that alternates btwn the 2 thats what I would guess (I mean, what other reasons do people try and communicate with morse code nowadays? Thats my only guess... ) amd on the flip side, I would hope if I were feverishly tap tap tapping " O. S. O." that a brainy person might guess my intent??? I hope so! I would just keep going, SOSOSOSOSOSOSOS, hopefully my onlooker would be able to guess?
I thought you were going to talk about Tom Luther. He also attacked women in the Breckinridge area in 1982. His exploits are detailed in the book “Monster” by Steve Jackson.
Beautifully poetic at the end there Dr Grande!
I lived in park county 6 years ago, it’s such a quiet and peaceful little mountain town. Stuff like this doesn’t happen in our little close knit community.. I remember hearing about this case and being super disturbed that the killer was never found and could be walking around amongst us! I can’t believe it took so long for this evil POS to get caught! I also can’t believe Dr. Grande is so on top of all of these crimes/cases even in these little small towns!
Wow you know this was a different time. Can you imagine turning down a ride from a friend in lieu of HITCHHIKING?!? It's scary to think of how easily he was almost never even caught or suspected.
Especially in a snowstorm - low visibility, few vehicles on the road, extreme cold.... terrible conditions for hitchhiking. My guess was that her friends lived in the opposite direction, and she didn't want to put them out.
I go to Guanella Pass pretty regularly for camping. It's just NOW getting properly paved in the 2020s. I cant imagine driving through miles of winding bumpy dirt roads in a snowstorm.... Plus it's a SCENIC route, no reason to take it if you don't have to 🤔
I just love this channel. This was fascinating. It's a story I never would have heard of if not for Dr. Grande.
🙏Rest In Peace to the victims. Someone really dropped the ball back then. No brainer, He was the only person around that night DAA.
Wow 39 years later and still hard to prove it.
Thank you Dr. Grande . Great video as always.
Fingers crossed for 1M subs ASAP 😀.
Good morning Dr Grande. I don't know why the authorities, didn't connect the dots. He was in the same area, where the women were murdered. I hope those poor women, gets the justice they deserve. Thank you Dr Grande , for one in a trillion analysis. Thank you Dr Grande Great topic.
Almost 1 million subscribers!!! 20,000 to go!!!!
I have a request to analyze Chloe Davis from 1940. She finished off the murdering of her brother and a sister plus aided her mother, who actually (originally) initiated the killings of Chloe’s sisters and brother, of killing herself as demons were coming for her and her children. Chloe went on to have a normal, productive,accomplished life. She was 11 at the time. Thank you Dr Grande~
I’m thankful they caught him. I believe he’s guilty and panicked and messed up. Amazing job Dr.Grande.
Excellent analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande, you are the best
Just one more way that fast food could be dangerous. 😂 Dr. Grande you get me every time when I’m trying to listen seriously.
1 MIL BAYBEEEEE! good for you, Dr. Grande and your cactus entourage
We appreciate you being consistent with uploading vids, Dr. Grande. Feel free to take a break whenever you need to, you look a little tired. 😴
So rude, omg hahaha. Like Dr. needs our approval to take a break from YT. Sheesh
Thank you Dr Grande for your insightful analysis and clear delivery as always.💐
The probability of this event happening is astronomically unfathomable in nature, it's mind-boggling to say the least.
I read about this Case! Thank You for the update! Prayers for the Families.💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Prayers for Justice!
I used to live in the area and this case has fascinated me on many levels.
Dr Grande has the most accurate rendition of what I've known/read of the facts of this case but there are 2 contextual points that I think often get lost when people put up videos on it.
1. Whatever you thought you knew about hitchhiking back in the day you can multiply it times about 800 for Summit County at the time. Hitching a lift in an area where there are 4 ski areas within a few miles of each other was far more common than just about any other area at the time, I would assume. The socioeconomic factors of ski towns also create an interesting mix of people. You have your high roller second and third vacation home owners mixed in with day-trippers from Denver (just over 1 hour away) and menial job laborers (cooks, clerks, waiters, etc) going from paycheck to paycheck on 2+ jobs but living hard to get those fresh powder days! (Can you imagine how hard for police such a large pool of suspects could be?) These lower income but "hardcore skiers" have crappy cars or don't have one at all. Problems with hitchhiking became so frightening the locals voted in a free shuttle, The Summit Stage, that services all of Summit County.
2. In that environment there sure are a lot of lonely dudes!
Ski-bum living attracts far more men than women. When I was there I heard unconfirmed stories of the ratio being between 1/7 and 1/12. Is it too much of a stretch to consider these as the possible "only" crimes of this nature by this individual? The evidence suggests that he wasn't very adept at these crimes but the zip-ties on his second victim suggest that he was learning.
I think it's not out of the question that these were possibly his first and only crimes of this nature. He wanted sex and devised, possibly, the only way he saw to get it. Then after having committed the small spree, maybe, saw it as too risky or may have even regretted it all together.
"Just one more way fast food can be dangerous. " Good one, Dr. Grande!
I’ve lived in Denver for 50+ years, and I have been to all the places in Colorado that were mentioned. I have never heard of this case, amazingly.
I’d like to see an analysis on the most infamous serial killer and last man executed in my home state of CT: Michael Ross. He also took advantage of young hitchhikers including my mother’s close friend. I haven’t seen many videos on him and would be curious to hear your thoughts.
Also connected with Connecticut is serial killer Hadden Clark. I worked the possible burials sites on Cape Cod, MA and this guy was one mentally ill person. His crimes were recounted in the book ‘Born Evil: A true story of cannibalism and serial murder.’ His story would make a great video or two.
Were female hitch hikers that common back then? I've been picking up hitch hikers since the late 90's, met all kinds but only even encountered two females--one with her male romantic partner/husband and the other by herself. The latter I took all the way to her destination even though it was out of my way because I knew as a female she was a at a lot higher risk of being assaulted out there on the road.
sweet. sweet and wonderful ....
I appreciate you being so thoughtful to her position and didn’t leave her out there for who knows what to happen
good morning Dr Grande!
I really enjoy your videos.
I've always been somewhat analytic myself, but became an Architectural Interior Designer instead of an analyst, detective or profiler. Those professions interest me, though.
I especially like the portion where you say what you think happened. I think you get it right.
Your humor sort of breaks up the horror in the worst cases and exemplifies the ridiculous nature of some of the other subjects you review.
Thank you for making these informative videos.
You have to wonder how many other unsolved murders this guy committed. He stopped after two? For 39 years? It seems unlikely to me. I hate seeing these people get to live out their whole lives free and not get caught until they are old! Like the Golden State Killer! He didn’t deserve to live a full life - have grandkids and everything- after what he did to so many people. Sure justice was finally served- but it doesn’t seem like enough.🤠💕
So awful, life is so fragile, and so many cruel people living seemingly ordinary lives amongst us. Not wishing to be cynical or morbid - but these kinds of crime makes one take personal security more seriously.
That's amazing that someone actually did see his lights from an aircraft so high.
Very difficult to imagine that a person who could do such things and twice in one evening has not done these things much more often. It's great to see technology serving the forces of good. Congratulations!
I saw this quote once and the importance of it imprinted on my mind - " For every crime , God has provided a witness ".
This is an interesting quote. When one looks closely at ones actions in general there is always a trace - deeds good or bad. 👍
It doesn't make it true.
I suppose that is easier than God simply preventing the crime in the first place. He sends a witness to observe the suffering. God is a voyeuristic pervert. Ah but free will. Like gladiators in an arena. But still the arena was built for the purpose.
What an ignorant and idiotic comment. (1) God doesn’t exist. There’s no justification for an omniscient, omnipotent being letting bad things occur. (2) It is easily demonstrable that many crimes have no witnesses. Saying otherwise is not respectful to the victims or their loved ones.
@@coweatsman Yup, this gibberish ‘free will’ excuse that the credulous come out with is laughable.
Hi Dr Grande
Have you seen news items re McCann. Breuckner alibis holding up in portugal (as the PJ knew in 2008 when they cleared him).
Idk if it's because it's such a commonly used name or what...but LEE. Especially as a middle name. So much criminal activity from people with the middle name LEE. Recently with Chris LEE Watts.
I've noticed that over the years too. Also, Ray seems to be pretty common in criminals' names...used either as first name or middle name.
Holy cow, this is surreal. Thank you Dr. Grande for shining a light on this story. Maybe slight pun intended
Very interesting analysis. Thank you for your work.👋
Dr. Grande there are tons of great cases from forensic files, cold case files, and autopsy (HBO). Many interesting cases in those shows to cover here.
Please do the Connor Tolson case!! The Australia govenment has just realised a million dollar reward on the murderers capture.
Holy Batman, Dr. Grande! That was one wild case. I nearly choked twice on my fast food while listening to this. Rip to the poor girls, and thank God justice prevailed.
Hey Dr.Grande, I would love it if you took a look at the case of Kimberly Proctor - a teen who was tortured and murdered by her two schoolfriends in cold blood. It's a pretty shocking case, and the two perpetrators remind me a bit of Harris and Klebold if they had been obsessed with carrying out a single particularly horrible killing rather than a mass killing.
At ONLY the quarter mark of the video/story, I am astounded at Alan's hokey rescue idea 1) WORKED AT ALL, much more, 2) within minutes and 3) after 4) only a few 5) well-known 6) public steps 7) between adjacent, but separate government jurisdictions for a common problem & responsibility 8) in THE most rugged area and 9) weather too! You cant believably make this stuff up. Fact, again, more astounding and wondrous than fiction can conjure! The system works!
I woke up especially tired after a long Monday to a brand new analysis! I already feel it’s gonna be a good day :) here’s my semi weekly video suggestion (haha) would you please consider covering the personality of recreational drug culture especially psychedelics. People like Joe Rogan advocate the use of DMT to millions of listeners, I’m open to both sides of the argument for legalizing and informed adults having the ability to alter their state of mind in some way but there would likely be some sort of societal consequences if a lot more people started taking psychedelics in a non medical setting, right? Okay time to actually watch the video 😂😂
How someone on a commercial airliner saved him is a story for the history books. How is that even possible?? Most people have no idea where they are when in the air?? I want more info about this,,it seems impossible.
10:27 "There are so many low probability events in this case that occurred"; this reminds me of the saying "only in America".
Great pronunciation of the name Oberholzer! she may have Dutch or South African roots. Belated justice is still justice. Will be interesting to see how the trial goes. 👍