KaChing Pokie Slot Documentary why slots are addictive

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  • Опубликовано: 8 мар 2019
  • Ins and outs of slots, mathematics and psychology behind them
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  • @kimtia1091
    @kimtia1091 4 года назад +75

    This is a massive reality check the machine took away my everything, my values, my self confidence, my soul, every time I feel the urge I will watch this

    • @whoo2978
      @whoo2978 4 года назад +1

      I host All In: The Addicted Gambler's Podcast, email me and share your story with us if you feel comfortable leestreetpod@gmail.com

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      sue those bastards

  • @profitdotws9905
    @profitdotws9905 4 года назад +38

    It's not the wins gamblers are addicted to, it's the lure of the next spin

  • @MM-xu7zc
    @MM-xu7zc 4 года назад +54

    Brilliant documentary. Anyone who’s played these damn things knows just how well this show has been done! Shame on the makers of these machines and all those who conspire to cover it up.

    • @debd7424
      @debd7424 2 года назад +5

      How about the government that allows them to be in so many places

    • @mahjonglivestreaming4535
      @mahjonglivestreaming4535 2 года назад

      Americans…..

    • @honghua2702
      @honghua2702 2 года назад +3

      @@debd7424 Our state government needs the money to send people as trade representatives to NY you know, that costs a lot of money, Someone got to pay for it.

    • @elusivejugmaster43
      @elusivejugmaster43 Год назад +1

      As a grown adult, it's a choice to play slots for fun and in moderation. I really enjoy disconnecting from the world and grabbing a meal afterward. Discipline is a trait, I have never seen the science behind. Perhaps society as a whole is focused too much on instant gratification.i play pennies at the lowest bet, solely for entertainment with a chance of winning. Don't expect to get rich and you'll be ok.

    • @kevinjohnson8792
      @kevinjohnson8792 Год назад +1

      @@debd7424 In WA in Australia there is is only 1 casino no slot machines in pubs
      Compared to to the east coast

  • @frarfarf
    @frarfarf 3 года назад +45

    How's the software designer guy with like 10 gold bracelets on, just to underline for us how much blood money he has been compensated, for helping create this evil sht and send lots of people broke with their lives ruined. How could you sleep at night?

    • @paulpaoloni494
      @paulpaoloni494 10 месяцев назад +1

      Pure putrosity

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR 4 месяца назад

      "I don't make them play it, I'm just making a game. An escape."

  • @sorenlarssen27
    @sorenlarssen27 5 лет назад +50

    I'm down somewhere between 40-60 thousand on these things and I thought I didn't have an addiction. It's quite sad and feel for all the people out there like me who have wasted there time and money and there life

    • @renosmasterclassesgmailcom5427
      @renosmasterclassesgmailcom5427 5 лет назад +5

      I know how you feel man, we all have had set backs. I lost everything to gambling my house, cars and family then I met a team of traders who introduced me to trading forex and crypto currencies ever since then I got my house and car back and I am now living comfortably without a job.

    • @schris413
      @schris413 5 лет назад +1

      @@renosmasterclassesgmailcom5427 There are risks with crypto too.

    • @renosmasterclassesgmailcom5427
      @renosmasterclassesgmailcom5427 5 лет назад +1

      @@schris413 yes they are risk with everything but it's the risk we try to minimize that's why we have a portfolio manager to assist with our trades

    • @KelseyD1738
      @KelseyD1738 5 лет назад +1

      Soren Larssen I feel your pain. the “never ending feeling” I call it. 🤦🏼‍♀️ #imnothingbutalowlifethinkingaboutmyoldlifecanthelpmyselffromfalling

    • @eugeniasyro7315
      @eugeniasyro7315 5 лет назад +1

      You are a loser.

  • @vulpes122
    @vulpes122 3 месяца назад +3

    Secret to Aristocrat's success; "building a better mouse trap."

  • @petep2678
    @petep2678 4 года назад +38

    Horrible evil soul crashing addiction , never start gambling

    • @Jim-fz2yr
      @Jim-fz2yr 4 года назад +7

      If I can add... combined with drinking alcohol at time, out goes your control and they know this! Further, long term binge drinking which many 20-30 year olds do, will mean your brain is compromised and less decision making and impulse control so pokies addiction increased and a new generation of problem gamblers created every year. Biggest transfer of wealth from poor to rich. People work their ass off to only have most of it lost playing pokies... their partners are used as scape goats and blamed for their losses, domestic violence and suicide also increases. How is our society allowing this scourge occur? Once people run out of money, they will be dependant on centrelink hand outs. 20 cents should be max bet. Time limits set... entertainment should be defined as 3 hour sessions max. Otherwise, ban it all!

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      The Royal Commissions at VIC AND WA should watch this to understand how Crown exploits the public using these addictive machines

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 2 года назад

      @@Jim-fz2yr well said, sue the govts for.alllowing these bastards to rob the public

    • @stolky19
      @stolky19 2 года назад

      Again, very well said @@Jim-fz2yr ...

  • @user-wr5ed4xj6b
    @user-wr5ed4xj6b 4 года назад +22

    Its good that casinos are closed because of the coronavirus in my country so i havent gambled in 3 months. They closed them at the exact time i was losing big but i still feel the urge to gamble.

    • @carlosrazier433
      @carlosrazier433 2 года назад +3

      With stuff opening up, how are you doing now? Hope you got over it man

    • @abdullahmshsy
      @abdullahmshsy 27 дней назад

      man are you alive?

    • @user-wr5ed4xj6b
      @user-wr5ed4xj6b 27 дней назад

      @@abdullahmshsy Alive and still gambling, in worse situation than ever, got in debt 10000eur and my monthly salary is 500eur. Baisically I will be working for nothing in the next 2 years..

  • @sung025
    @sung025 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome and informative documentary. In Australia, gambling is a part of culture blah blah blah ~~~~. I can not stop blaming those who keep gaining benefits from this disgusting industry.

  • @stugats77
    @stugats77 5 лет назад +30

    who has a gambling hangover atm? did you max out your keycard saturday night? 2k in a machine with only 5 features? free soft drinks free coffee? what ajoke these should be illegal banned in australia all these rsl clubs are building new venues multi levels who funded these new buildings? the pokie players did

    • @Christizm
      @Christizm 4 года назад +2

      I have done this before its a horrible feeling you just cant walk away because you dont want some other bastard coming over and playing and getting your feature I am trying hard to stay away from em

    • @veganandlovingit
      @veganandlovingit 4 года назад +1

      not really free coffees, more like two hundred dollar coffees

  • @androgynghe
    @androgynghe 2 года назад +5

    This is a must-see for everyone as it shows the real power and damage caused by these shameful creations

  • @mikejackson19828
    @mikejackson19828 Год назад +5

    I've not gambled on slot machines or been to any casino for 2 years. I have saved a lot of money!

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  Год назад +1

      Excellent stuff Mike, keep it up, enjoy that money you are saving and the time you also save, no more gambling hangover

    • @gamemode9439
      @gamemode9439 Год назад +1

      Good for you my friend very proud of you. Keep it up

  • @budp6320
    @budp6320 5 лет назад +16

    Len Ainsworth: "how to fool the world in to giving me their money"

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      true but nobody does anything abouy this.deception

  • @stefanosprokopis6974
    @stefanosprokopis6974 4 года назад +7

    Pokies addiction equals pain and misery.

  • @stephenross6944
    @stephenross6944 5 месяцев назад +2

    These developers and manufacturers,how do they sleep at night knowing they are ruining people lives

  • @elprincipe1
    @elprincipe1 5 лет назад +5

    Everyone should watch this docu..

  • @honghua2702
    @honghua2702 2 года назад +3

    In Vietnam, locals are not allowed into any gambling venues at all

  • @Christizm
    @Christizm 4 года назад +10

    This helps me to not want to go and play the pokies after work or during my lunch break or before coming to work thanks to Australia these machines are everywhere. I have had big wins where I won thousands but in the end they always take it all back they are so addictive once you start you cannot walk out of the place you always think just another $20 or $50 and it never ends when your chasing it is even worse you go crazy trying to find ways to get money terrible atmosphere and its very dangerous please stop making these machines or make them less prevalent in society.

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      it is a scam mathmatically designed to rob our money... all our monet

    • @Christizm
      @Christizm 3 года назад

      Correct it will always beat you in the end and you will have less Monet

    • @BloodAndSweatNoTears
      @BloodAndSweatNoTears 2 года назад

      @@Christizm Claude

  • @sausagemahoney7525
    @sausagemahoney7525 3 года назад +3

    It’s been since 2001 for me when I turned 18.
    I’m making sure my daughter knows why she should never touch them.
    I don’t hide it from her, if I fuck up I tell wh why I don’t have money and she watches the confession crush me like a grape.
    I have to stop for her sake if not for my own

  • @theheadoftable-respect4139
    @theheadoftable-respect4139 8 месяцев назад +1

    I use to spend $500-$900 or even more in the pokies as it was just an addiction, I was greedy and when I got greedy and lost I got lonely, it got to a point it was giving me anxiety, so now I’m 4 months sober and each month I make a coin I keep in my wallet to remind of who I am and the future I will have, to anyone reading this, there is more to life and you don’t need to play the pokies

  • @davidhughes6
    @davidhughes6 Год назад +3

    It's a shame those common sense reforms didn't go through. $1 a spin is still plenty. You could still burn through $100 in ten minutes

  • @moniquebode1655
    @moniquebode1655 3 года назад +6

    The Government needs to do something about this in our society. Life use to be so simple. Now every pub have these machines and people are becoming addicted very quickly. I would never have thought I'd become addicted to them. It was a way to kill time, something to do. You could go out on your own and its acceptable whereas as a woman, its difficult to go to a bar on your own. That's how I became addicted

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      Royal commissions are really not enough, they have to be closed altogether

  • @MikeLoweryy
    @MikeLoweryy Год назад +3

    I really don't want to play these evil things anymore. I just turned 24 and my whole adulthood since I turned 18 all the money I have ever earned has gone to these machines, nothing to show for it at all, I see all my family and friends progressing through life and this addiction has been holding me down for so long. Such a waste of my youth

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  Год назад +1

      Mate stay away while you can, stay strong use them family and friends to help keep you accountable and away as best as you can, because the pokies will always just keep taking and taking, one day the computers aren’t going to change their minds they are programmed to fleece us

    • @MikeLoweryy
      @MikeLoweryy Год назад

      ​@@blacckarat9156 thank you for the response, I am so blessed to have my family an my mum and sisters are so worried for me I hate the fact that I do this to them too. I have to take control. 2 days I haven't been it's the longest I can remember in easily 3-4 years that I haven't been unless I was waiting for pay day it's insane when I think of that .

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  Год назад +2

      @@MikeLoweryy it’s better to start today Mike, You have a long fulfilling life ahead of you without involving the machines

    • @jasonmiddleweek1509
      @jasonmiddleweek1509 7 месяцев назад

      Move to WA

  • @spendingtimetogether8428
    @spendingtimetogether8428 3 года назад +8

    This is not rocket science, but yes, one needs to have a very strong mind to avoid the pitfalls of slot addiction/gambling.

    • @raymondphilip6232
      @raymondphilip6232 2 года назад +1

      How do you propose that one has a strong mind if all normal humans possess the same chemicals with the same mechanics? (i.e. dopamine)

    • @Aera223
      @Aera223 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@raymondphilip6232make a plan beforehand, and only take the planned amount rather than have a card or whatever cash is available

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR 4 месяца назад

      The strong mind being one that rejects it entirely and sees it for what it is?
      If you have a basic understanding of probabilities and can operate a calculator, you should by default steer clear of it. It'll still get you, but at least you can reason yourself out of starting.
      But hey, if you have infinite cash flow, go for it. There are better ways to spend your time, but you do you.

  • @dr_vegapunk13
    @dr_vegapunk13 Год назад +2

    I had job offers from the gambling industry that I instantly rejected. Thinking of putting my hours and creativity into something like that makes me physically sick.

  • @nickelston3988
    @nickelston3988 3 года назад +8

    Now I’m going to quit after watching this.

  • @emif841
    @emif841 Год назад +2

    I heard there are more poker machines in NSW than anywhere else in Australia.

  • @spendingtimetogether8428
    @spendingtimetogether8428 3 года назад +1

    5:00 and Leader singer of Midnight Oil!

  • @Mark-lj1dj
    @Mark-lj1dj 6 месяцев назад

    22:45 perfectly explained 👌

  • @Dilligaf666
    @Dilligaf666 2 года назад +3

    More than 200k now with the pandemic happening

  • @kevinjohnson8792
    @kevinjohnson8792 Год назад +1

    Thanks Blacc Karat

  • @monsegonzalez33999
    @monsegonzalez33999 13 дней назад +1

    At that point you might as well invest that money into buying your own slot machines and casino place 😭😭

  • @vetnuu1098
    @vetnuu1098 4 года назад +3

    Pokies design to take your money....

  • @resistance3513
    @resistance3513 4 года назад +2

    Yes thats great video I watch how I make me poorly I m done I hope not back to hell again 26.01.20

  • @WIESNERX0042
    @WIESNERX0042 4 года назад +2

    thanks for posting, not exactly what I was looking for (maybe) but it will do
    im looking for videos that have any evidence to suggest how rigged online slots are...like any programmers speaking out ect

    • @budp6320
      @budp6320 3 года назад +1

      Did you find any yet?

    • @Mark-lj1dj
      @Mark-lj1dj 2 месяца назад

      The guy at 18:00 and 18:50 are pretty much telling us its a scam and how it works

  • @sarah-janereeves7968
    @sarah-janereeves7968 2 года назад +3

    Please DON'T GAMBLE for anything

  • @cojocarasumariusm9243
    @cojocarasumariusm9243 4 года назад +4

    In one year my mother lost over 20000, playng in secret! :( F*cking slot machines!!!

  • @AdzynDadzy
    @AdzynDadzy Год назад

    I WAS HERE

  • @Blazingwheel
    @Blazingwheel Год назад +1

    LOL that woman claiming she got hypnotized by a slot machine is not an excuse

  • @theobnoxiousweed
    @theobnoxiousweed Год назад +1

    These machines and the den they exist in are drug dealing designed and profiting from addiction that has no monetary limit. The poorer the suburb the more pokie machines there are. The emptiness both emotionally and financially is life destroying.

  • @invader777
    @invader777 4 года назад +1

    Just think you got that electrode wire in the brain tapping the pokie looking for the free games like the test rat

  • @athenak631
    @athenak631 Месяц назад +1

    12 billion a year.
    Is everybody having fun trying to recoup losses?

  • @moonsunloved8405
    @moonsunloved8405 5 месяцев назад

    I lived across the road from a pokie place in marrickville. I went in there each morning. Doubled my money, 50 to 100 and walked out and that's how I lived for a year. I guess i'm the dude taking the winnings. Sorry.

  • @hibiscusangel7376
    @hibiscusangel7376 Год назад

    I need to just get up when I profit

  • @michaelbradley5603
    @michaelbradley5603 Год назад

    What if I told you that the whole system is guaranteed to end in deficit. Would that then make you stop if you knew undeniably that the whole racket is in fact fraud by design. The truth is, you don't know for sure whether it's possible or not that the whole system could be a lie. Consider that, that your whole life investment gambling could be a guaranteed loss. People would say I'm crazy right.

  • @deviant4275
    @deviant4275 Год назад

    Hate to be that guy, but I've won so much money on these things. Never won a cent on the weekly lotto

  • @invader777
    @invader777 6 месяцев назад

    They wouldn't buy them if couldn't control them .

  • @petersmith9403
    @petersmith9403 4 года назад +2

    Evil industry

  • @lanpham6964
    @lanpham6964 2 года назад

    Can this lady contact me from Sydney aus please

  • @kaybee9805
    @kaybee9805 4 года назад +3

    I lost 200k aud to gambling pokies I lost everything of many years

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  4 года назад +2

      So did I Kay, hope you are not playing anymore and spending better time doing other and more positive things

    • @kaybee9805
      @kaybee9805 4 года назад

      @@blacckarat9156
      I know man.
      How long you've been playing

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  4 года назад +1

      Kay Bee I don’t play anymore mate have been off them for 18 months since I did counselling and watched this, best decision I made, I have since moved over to betting on sports and horse racing a bit but it’s no where near as bad as when I was playing pokies, so I’m much better now I Played them a good 10 years

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад

      help ourselves first then help others

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR 4 месяца назад

      @@blacckarat9156 Still off them?

  • @alihussain4349
    @alihussain4349 2 года назад +1

    I will call you sir and madam, and I will only charge you $5. Much better deal than the casino.

  • @nadzyea9780
    @nadzyea9780 5 лет назад +4

    this will be taken off youtube very soon, the aussie government don't want us to watch this

    • @kenoplayr
      @kenoplayr 4 года назад

      That already happened and thee publisher preached His full rights to it and thou shall RE-upload to RUclips! He then Pointed His finger at the The Aristocrat Demons, and shouted, " REBEL YOU GREEDY EVIL GOBLINS! YOU SHALL GO BACK INTO THE PYRAMID OF HELL, AND BURN WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE GIVEN TO YOU!!!...REBEL ARISTOCRAT DEMONS!!!!!!"=)

    • @snufflestan6302
      @snufflestan6302 4 года назад

      The Aussie government doesn’t want people to know these fact of pokies..........As it is less money for their coffers. Tragically I know the addictive effect of pokies as I have a ole man who’s hooked to them. Plus some people when they lose too much money they turn into monsters towards the one’s they should be taking care of!!!

    • @ltttt9448
      @ltttt9448 4 года назад

      Australian gov has no authority over private companies such as RUclips or Facebook...twitter etc, even Donald’s trump post removed by Facebook today. So I don’t don’t think scomo has any hope

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 3 года назад +1

      Fed and local Govs should be sued for misleading the public of.these gambling devices

  • @Bozzzzzz007
    @Bozzzzzz007 Год назад

    Can’t think of a more boring thing to have a go at …
    Also can’t understand why they polluted the waters with these boring machines

  • @lja8534
    @lja8534 Год назад

    How's the lie, to the business owners and even the government. If people didn't put their money in the pokies there money would likely still be spent.... Its money its always spent eventually.

  • @granthales127
    @granthales127 3 года назад +1

    say no to pokies

  • @roger1965100
    @roger1965100 4 года назад +8

    I struggled with pokey addiction for years. The only way I was cured was a series of electric shocks to my genitals whenever I won on the pokey. These were administrered by a specially designed pokey. I worked with a psychiatrist to get a pokey installed in my home that had a kind of belt attached to it. I would wear this around my waist while I played. When I won, the belt delivered a mildly painful electric shock. I was encouraged to pplay the machine as much as possible as long as I wore the belt. The net effect was that over the period of a year I lost all interest in playing the pokies. It was 100% successful, but also had the effect that I became ridiculously addicted to naving my genitals electrocuted. Now I cannot leave the house. I am up to 10 blasts of an industrial cattle prodder per day....just to feel normal. Hang on one sec.....BBBZZZZZZZZZ !!!! Ah, that's better.

    • @user-dm4kz7rd9u
      @user-dm4kz7rd9u 3 года назад +1

      😁

    • @binbindu6159
      @binbindu6159 2 года назад +1

      hahahahaha

    • @stolky19
      @stolky19 2 года назад

      Fuck off mate - this shit's fucking serious!!

    • @angusdunn4350
      @angusdunn4350 2 года назад

      @@stolky19 sounds like you need a slap mate

    • @stolky19
      @stolky19 2 года назад

      @@angusdunn4350 good luck with that one chief..

  • @emif841
    @emif841 Год назад +2

    I've seen three young men play about $4000 in one sitting. They do it for entertainment. They were occasionally getting a good result. On the reverse I watched an elderly person lose $50 in about five minutes. I rather have my meal and give this nonsense the flick. When manufacturers can change setting of machine to give a 60% return you should understand you will always lose in the long run. Be a loser for your hard earned monies, keep the industry going.

  • @joeoconnell7916
    @joeoconnell7916 2 года назад +1

    Evil 😈

  • @Foxie635
    @Foxie635 10 месяцев назад

    It's always the first five spins and you will win small or big. This is how they get new players addicted. Me and my friend got addicted because we won putting in $3 and won $500. We went back thinking we were lucky.

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR 4 месяца назад

      It's always the proverbial tea leaf reading that people create for themselves, that justifies some level of addiction.

  • @wh0racle3
    @wh0racle3 Год назад

    i never heard the term "Pokie" , lol australians..

  • @miseelise
    @miseelise 2 года назад +1

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    • @Aera223
      @Aera223 5 месяцев назад

      🎉😮

  • @iamwearingacup
    @iamwearingacup 4 года назад +2

    There's good money to be made on Slots. The horror stories you hear are of addicts. I usually make about 600 a week. It's literally as simple as knowing when to stop. Either play with 10/20 euro and never more than 20 cent a spin.

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  4 года назад +30

      You're a complete fucking idiot and lier

    • @chicagomojo
      @chicagomojo 4 года назад +5

      That's how we all started. Don't trash addicts when you'll be in our shoes soon enough.

    • @iamwearingacup
      @iamwearingacup 4 года назад +1

      @@chicagomojo as if I'd ever be that weak.

    • @iamwearingacup
      @iamwearingacup 4 года назад

      @@blacckarat9156 you're salty

    • @thecattermat
      @thecattermat 4 года назад +2

      you're a piece of shit

  • @anitelufalemei4200
    @anitelufalemei4200 3 года назад +6

    The key to winning is discipline. Leave as soon as you make a profit and spend no more than $20 bucks a week. I’ve been doing this for 3 years and all my winnings I put in a savings account which is now at $3000. Discipline people. Discipline.

    • @trevorphilips4030
      @trevorphilips4030 3 года назад +5

      Shut up. There is no “key” to discipline. It’s a death trap and you’re just one of the lucky ones who haven’t become a full victim of gambling...yet.

    • @bobbin321
      @bobbin321 3 года назад +7

      Why would you bother for only 3k over 3 years. What a waste of time. Better off spending that time increasing your earning potential in your normal day job.

    • @periclesjames
      @periclesjames 2 года назад

      You are a disgusting individual trying to show off as a lucky gambler . Noone wins on poker machines with long term playing . 95% of gamblers are long playing meaning that they always lose . A addict cannot just have one hit meaning that there is never ever any discipline .

    • @dec1slh
      @dec1slh Год назад +1

      If you play 20 bucks a weeks, haven't you only broke even over the course of 3 years

    • @dec1slh
      @dec1slh Год назад

      @@bobbin321 for him the point is not winning it's "not losing"....which is still better than most gamblers

  • @hakansukur1627
    @hakansukur1627 Год назад

    Can anyone please answer my question here if possible, and please Google it if necessary or watch one on RUclips if need be, but does a UK FOBT (fixed odds betting terminal) operate in the same way as these Australian pokies or regular slot machines do ???? Thanx very much if anybody replies 🙏🙏🙏

    • @blacckarat9156
      @blacckarat9156  Год назад +1

      Yes’s they operate in similar/same way.

    • @hakansukur1627
      @hakansukur1627 Год назад

      @@blacckarat9156 ahh ok. I figured as much, so they are basically a legalized scam too ? Thanx so much 🙏🙏🙏