Howard Cosell's "The Bronx is Burning" Comments During 1977 World Series
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Howard Cosell and Keith Jackson comment on a building fire seen nearby Yankee Stadium during Game 2 of the World Series, October 12, 1977.
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People often thought that Cosell said "ladies and Gentleman, the Bronx is burning." He never said anything like that at all.
Bronx was on fire so frequently the commentators aren’t really that alarmed about seeing the fire.
it amazed me how short term some peoples memories are. if you were from nyc and of a certain age. the bronx, and nyc as a whole was WAY more fucked up than nyc now. only new big problem is the cali style gangs that have been popping up all over the city.
That was true for the whole country. For the most part, the Great Crime Decline that began in the 1990s is still with us. Vivid reporting makes things look worse than they actually are.
@@scottcharney1091not true, crime declined every year nationally throughout that era until 2014, when it began rising again. I never thought America’s cities and particularly NYC would go back to the “Gotham” days, but despite the fact that the city isn’t bankrupt like in the 70s, crime is nonetheless back as they threw out all the tough-on-crime policies that revitalized the city, seemingly for purely ideological reasons.
@@TheLocalLt That's not true. There was another substantial decline from 2015-2019. Most of the country has seen a crime rise (disproportionately homicide) during/after the pandemic, no matter who's in charge. However, Eric Adams is (and has already been) introducing tougher measures that *allegedly* will bring the situation well in hand. Criminologists often dispute that, but never mind. Comments with links tend to disappear, so just look up an article called "The Bad Old Days."
@@scottcharney1091 true I have seen Adams reversing some of De Blasio’s initiatives on policing and crime, but the point remains incidents like the whole Subway “vigilante justice” thing earlier this summer were inconceivable 15 years ago
That actually was not an apartment building, but an abandoned NYC public elementary school about a mile East of Yankee Stadium.
P.S. 3
For those who do not live in New York City (consider yourselves blessed right now), P.S. stands for "Public School". All elementary schools have the P.S. labeling, while some Junior High Schools are I.S. or "Intermediate School" or J.H.S. (Junior High School)
Maybe it was a Mandela effect and he never said “ladies and gentlemen, the Bronx is burning”. Or maybe people remember the CBS special “The Bronx is Burning” from ‘77 and confuse the two. Who knows…
The phrase originates from the book Report From Engine Co. 82
I could have sworn it was a newspaper headline too
I think a little bit of both, and some journalists over the years "interpreting" Howard and Keith's comments that way
Nobody could say "apahtment" like Howard Cosell.
With those Steve Yeager aviator sunglasses and long side burns you know it was 1977.
Mr. Burns wouldn't have let him on the team.
So, it would seem, it is urban legend that Howard Cosell said, "Ladies and gentlemen, the Bronx is burning," even though Keith Jackson and he reported the fire. I warmly recommend the Jonathan Mahler book "Ladies and Gentleman, the Bronx Is Burning: 1977, Baseball, Politics, and the Battle for the Soul of a City" as well as the E.S.P.N. miniseries "The Bronx Is Burning" starring Oliver Platt and John Turturro, that the book inspired.
You know until I was like in high school, I thought the bronx is burning was just a metaphore, I didn't think the bronx were actually on fire
1977 was the summer of "son of Sam" and the blackout.
Both events, especially the Son of Sam killings, are covered alongside the 1977 Yankees in the excellent ESPN mini-series “The Bronx is Burning.”
@@leczorn also in a 1998 spike Lee movie called Summer of Sam starting John Leguizamo, Jennifer Esposito and Adrian Brody.
Wow, how many ignorant people in the comments…would’ve bugged out if you lived in many areas of NYC during the 70s and 80s
The phrase " The Bronx is burning " comes from the book Report From Engine Company 82. In the edition I have , it appears on page 151: ..." Southern Boulevard and Fox Street. Again. Southern Boulevard and Fox Street. The Bronx is Burning"...
wow great flashback...different times...thanks
Back in the days, people would burn their houses for insurance money, nowadays they run in front of a car.
I never sleep, ‘cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind
Dam u slip in a line from the genius NAS , that whole album every single song is a masterpiece !!! These kids now are getting lots of garbage Rap, and lots of other things
i miss howard cosell
Had to see it myself.
Shows how disparal it is between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots". A tale as old as time.
They should have used Cosell to beat out the flames.
Lol 😂
Does anyone have any information on this fire, it was supposedly at an abandoned school Public School 3 in the block of Melrose and Courtlandt ave and 157th and 158th street? Was this at Bronx Elementary School 29 or another school no longer around?
What does it matter now?
Its part of a very dark history in America ! Things like this should never be forgotten
Good question. I want to know as well. It couldn't be that part of the Bronx Elementary School 29, though. That's too far south according to the above video. In the above aerial shot, the fire is almost plumb in line with the old stadium's South wall.
Never heard the words, must be a myth
It is. The phrase " The Bronx is burning" comes from the book Report from Engine Company 82.
TARIQ WASNT LYING = 2.5 HOURS LATER......
Great man ! Great story!
Game 2, one of the two games where the Los Angeles beat up on Yankees Pitcher Catfish Hunter during The 1977 World Series. Unfortunately for the Dodgers, those would be The Only Two Victories the Dodgers would have in that World Series losing to the New York Yankees 4 Games to 2.
Jilted in 2007 the 78 series was when the Yanks came back from being down two games to none.
Oh yes, after Reggie Jackson cheated in Game 4 by sticking his Hip out on purpose to deflect a Ball intended for Steve Garvey's Glove for an Inning Ending Double Play allowing Thurman Munson to score a Run? That incident was The Turning Point of that World Series.
And he never says the famous line...
"and there it is ladies and gentlemen, THE BRONX IS BURNING"
the so called Mandela Effect... everybody believe in something that never actually happened
What the false phrase does the most is speak to the mindset of those who believed and repeated it. "Ladies and gentleman, the Bronx is burning." ---this is a phrase which is filled with schadenfreude, wrapped in an aura of superiority, and sprinkled with a sense of disinterested disgust. It's the complete opposite of the tone found in Cosell & Jackson's actual remarks, which found them expressing not only appreciation at the quick work done by firefighters, but also relief that no one had been hurt.
compazine excellent post.
+Phil Anderson
Learn to listen Phil. Learn to listen...
fuck off gordan
So, who said "the Bronx is burning" first? Was it Mahler's Opus?
I find this quite interesting. Must have been quite a time to live in back then. And this was loooooong before Twitter, Facebook and Instagram delivered the news the minute it happened. You had to be watching a live broadcast on TV to see something like this. I wonder if my dad remembers because he was a Freshman in college at the time, plus he's a big Yankees fan and then he became a volunteer firefighter a few years later. Not in the Bronx, but Western NY lol.
I lived in the Bronx at that time. It WAS quite a time; the city and state had fiscal problems (Shades of the 2008 banking crisis)"white flight", the birth of Hip Hop and a lot of problems that would come to a head when Reagan is elected 3 years later.
Do baseball fans out in Western NY typically root for the Yankees? I figured it was probably Blue Jays territory but I'm just curious
i was there it was a school
I lived in the North Bronx for years! Nice area.
not many blacks?
Now it is. In the 70s and 80s, it had some major issues.
@@juanshaftpatel7488 You are a dumb racists! I lived in the North Bronx on Gun Hill Road (Williamsbridge) , there are a lot of black people up there!
@@amazing50000 then it cnt be nice if blks are there... lemme guess youre a poor
@@juanshaftpatel7488 I grew up in the North Bronx in Co op City. It was integrated, so was Wakefield area.
Lon Simmons, the narrator of Sports Talk Baseball, sounded a loooot like him
Prompt action they let it burn
tariq brought me here
Same
About to start the Bronx is Burning
Planned shrinkage...
Shoutouts to Tariq
That's what brought me here too lol
What is y’all talking about? Y’all talking about Power?
@@cfnretro6448 We're talking about Black power 🙌🏽✊🏽
That was PS 3.
Tariq wasn't lying
Tariq Nasheed brought me here. ✊🏿🧠
The legendary voice here is Keith Jackson . Not the pompous winbag Cosell.
Trevor Gomes the legendary voice WAS Howard Cosell, the greatest of all time.
What exactly is a "surmisal," Howard? Is it anything like a "surmise," the word that's actually in the English dictionary?
It's a word...
Surmisal is a word, my friend
surmisal - a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence. Synonyms: guess, speculation, supposition, surmise, conjecture, hypothesis.
Rent control kids! This is what happens when you pass rent control legislation :)
Kyle Amidon clearly rent control doesn’t work but how can you make housing affordable while keeping property values up?
@@TheLocalLt densification, housing cycle, and gentrification. Remove property tax caps, as well.
It was far more complex than that and there are plenty of books and documentaries you can watch that give you a more nuanced picture of what happened in the Bronx. Rent control has to be handled sensitively, but there are numerous examples, around the world, of it working.
Hmm I wonder if the blacks set it
man shut the fuck up
Statistically and demographically probable they did.
@@wilhelmbeaston8003 oh I thought it was mainly Puerto Ricans who lived there. At any rate it was called "planned shrinkage" and this was a policy from the top. They withdrew fire services from many areas.
@@wilhelmbeaston8003 Really? You mean inside jobs for insurance money never happened?
@@wilhelmbeaston8003 No, more like the landlords who no longer wanted the building and still had tax liabilities without incoming rent revenues wanted out. So they would pay "arsonists" to set the building on fire. The city in the midst of a fiscal crunch, had laid off fire marshals who would be overworked would then put down "unknown" as a cause. The landlords would cash in the insurance and bounce leaving the city holding the bag.
why even make this video...could care less about the fire and you short stroke the game...; way to go
????????
It's history, you idiot
@@sabrina63 tell him!!!!
By the end of the 70’s 40% of the south Bronx burnt down. In 72 20% of residents didn’t have running water. Any record of that is truly history, more then the outcome of the game
@@ministerpopilyo I just came from “gods socialist” as well