How To Make & Distill Rice Wine

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
  • I have wanted to distill rice wine (baiju or soju) for a long time. But the traditional methods always seemed like just a little too much work.
    Thankfully I came across angel yeasts yellow label product. It promises to allow you to ferment starch WITHOUT mashing OR boiling! How crazy is that?!?
    I decided to put it to the test to make my own distilled rice wine. Its similar to a traditional baiju or soju, more importantly its EASY to make.
    After the testing in the video this is the recipe I would make again. You can split it into multiple fermenters like I did, or ferment in one larger fermenter
    You will need:
    6- 12 kg (13 - 26 lb) of rice (I used 6kg of medium grain)
    Water
    36 g (1.3 oz) Angel Label Yeast (Yellow label version!)
    Method:
    Mill the rice. Ideally to small course pieces
    Add almost boiling water (around 3x the volume of rice)
    Agitate well (A paint mixer is great)
    Let it sit for 1 hr
    Top up with cold or warm water as needed to reach a total volume of 55 l (14 gal) and reach a temp of 30c (86 f)
    Hydrate the yeast in 35c water ( 95 f)
    Add the hydrated yeast to the rice wash and agitate again
    Ferment at 30c (86 f)
    Wait another 3 days after fermentation has stopped then rack to your still
    Run 3x stripping runs
    Slowly distill the low wines in one spirit run
    Make good cuts based on flavour
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    00:00 Intro
    00:20 Yellow Label
    02:25 The Test Idea
    02:55 Milling Rice
    03:57 Cooked Rice Wash
    05:26 Hot Water Rice Wash
    05:52 Cold Water Rice Test
    06:14 Hydrating The Yellow Label & Pitching
    07:53 Fermentation recap
    08:45 Stripping Runs
    10:05 Test Results
    11:46 Recommended Recipe
    12:50 Spirit Run
    14:59 Tasting & Thoughts
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  • @goawaytours
    @goawaytours 3 года назад +242

    I visited a rice wine distillery near Ho Chi Min City in Vietnam where they fed the rice residue to a big pig in the corner. They then collected the pig poo and collected the methane into a big bladder/bag which was stored in the rafters of the shed with a hose running down to a stove which they used to heat and cook the rice for future batches. Any poo left over went into the fields to grow more rice. 100% recycling.

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K Год назад +16

      HAHAHAH that's some insane efficiency HAHAHAH
      that's like hyper optimization for efficiency

    • @Harry_PP030
      @Harry_PP030 Год назад +14

      Somewhere in northern Vietnam we drove through where we saw distillery stills in almost every front garden, with bicycle inner tubes as hoses. Didn't try their drinks 🤣

    • @AB-C1
      @AB-C1 Год назад +6

      Amazing ingenuity!
      As the old saying goes "necessity is the mother of all invention" (this as is war! Historically Unfortunately)
      Ps. And GREED is the PREVENTION of the Implementation of nearly ALL that INVENTION AND PROGRESS! 🤬👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

    • @trashpanda5947
      @trashpanda5947 Год назад

      @@AB-C1 Literally the opposite of the truth. Greed promotes efficiency since higher efficiency means higher profits. Reusing waste products whenever possible is standard procedure in the west and it has since the beginning of time. I remember a chart of what all parts of a cow is used for from the 1800s IIRC. It used bones, fat, organs, etc... And turned it all into various products. Turning trash/waste into a product or as an input to a product is something any capitalist with any sense will do.

    • @pacman10182
      @pacman10182 Год назад +2

      @@AB-C1 "GREED is the PREVENTION" no, it's not
      greed is the driving force for all men to rise above subsistence

  • @yeastwholesale2536
    @yeastwholesale2536 3 года назад +279

    Hello everyone, I am the guy who provided Jesse with the Yellow Label Version Angel Yeast. I am sorry that our label is not very clear. I have to admit that it is rather confusing. Thank you Jesse for this great video! Mike

    • @mysterytechknowledge3664
      @mysterytechknowledge3664 3 года назад +20

      Since you provided it...WHERE CAN WE BUY IT?!?

    • @lorenjemahli8879
      @lorenjemahli8879 3 года назад +4

      what is the alcohol tolerance of this yeast?

    • @draganfiscag4182
      @draganfiscag4182 3 года назад +1

      And who doesn't have this yeast, which others can use?

    • @ARCSTREAMS
      @ARCSTREAMS 3 года назад +1

      what makes you stuff able to convert starch to sugar at room temprature or without having to mash in at 150deg F??

    • @chrisbammer8679
      @chrisbammer8679 3 года назад +8

      I believe it. This one dude bred a strain of genetically modified yeast to convert sugar into spidersilk, so getting one to eat slightly different food sounds easy by comparison

  • @joshuabaru2908
    @joshuabaru2908 3 года назад +209

    Amazing vid. Just want to add, sticky rice produce higher alcohol content than normal rice.
    If you have a rice cooker, use it to cook the rice, let it cool down. Spread on a clean surface and sprinkle yeast of choice. At this point no water is added.
    Let the rice and yeast mixture ferment in a container (preferably see through) and leave to ferment. After a few days (depending on temperature), alcohol will be produced in the form of liquid. Then add water, distilled will be best, cooked and let cool tap water is also sufficient. If you are like me, who don't mind to spend a little on bottled water, because it's easier, that's good too.😂
    How much water too add? That depends on how much rice was used. I don't really measure my ingredients, rather estimate it with ratios instead. I'm Asian, so yeahh. 🤘😁🤘 A good beginning ration will be 1 part rice to 2 parts water.
    Then leave it to ferment as long as you can wait. For those who can't wait, give it atleast 2 weeks. But I know of some who likes it fresh. And for those who wants more punch in their alcohol, distill is the way to go.
    I have no say about distillation, for I only use more traditional style and I have not tried to build my own hack distillation rack.
    Hope this helps.

    • @prestonspears6078
      @prestonspears6078 3 года назад +6

      I was thinking sticky rice would produce higher alcohol proof I mean they cook sweet foods with it here in Philippines.

    • @joshuabaru2908
      @joshuabaru2908 3 года назад +5

      @@prestonspears6078 that's correct. More sugar for the yeast to convert into alcohol. Sticky rice cakes has so many recipes and all the variants are yummy in it's own right.

    • @schultzpatressepd478
      @schultzpatressepd478 3 года назад +1

      lihing

    • @dataperson7067
      @dataperson7067 2 года назад

      sounds similar to process to make sato (almost)

    • @alvynvynav
      @alvynvynav 2 года назад

      Tuak hahaah

  • @soranuttwilawann8752
    @soranuttwilawann8752 3 года назад +36

    As a SEA boi, I'm quite glad to see you making this one. I personally think rice spirits are quite underated outside East and South East Asia. As you say in the video, rice spirits can be very pleasent to drink with an incredibly rich and sweet flavors. Sadly in Thailand the government bans small distilleries from going full commercial, so all we can get legally here are spirits from a few big factories which literally, and I can't stress this enough, literally taste like garbage, while the 'real' stuffs are brew illegally and locally in the countryside and impossible to get them in the city.
    So, dear you guys moonshiners out there, please do it lol, it really tastes good.

  • @clanpsi
    @clanpsi 3 года назад +26

    Distilleries in Japan have started aging their soju (shochu) in oak barrels and it tastes amazing. You should see if you can get ahold of an old sherry cask or something and test out aging your soju for a few years.

    • @hdstyle1014
      @hdstyle1014 3 года назад +5

      Actually soju is Korean liquor. Japanese makes sake.

    • @azraelizdog
      @azraelizdog 2 года назад +4

      @@hdstyle1014 and also Shochu. I travel there regularly (pre Covid) and have quite a collection.

    • @PankajDoharey
      @PankajDoharey 4 месяца назад

      Japanese alcohol is completely different the ferment starter and digestor and completely different species of fungus compared to this one in the video.

  • @MaaadRiddle
    @MaaadRiddle 3 года назад +26

    For rice spirit, in China normally the rice are first soaked overnight and then steamed, then spread and mix the koji or yeast with the warm rice, and then packed in containers to ferment. Different koji or yeasts (quite like sourdough starter in bread making), such as barley-made koji (which is the famous shaoxing rice wine in China is fermented with) or rice-made koji, together with the bio-environment where the wine is fermented will produce enormously different flavour and aromatic compounds, which makes different regional rice wines.

    • @muhammadwaseem3505
      @muhammadwaseem3505 Год назад +1

      How many days required for formintantio plz tell me

    • @richardnellson5257
      @richardnellson5257 Год назад +1

      @@muhammadwaseem3505 about 7 days to make the milky rice wine.

  • @TheSquirreless
    @TheSquirreless 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Jessie. I appreciate your vids.

  • @angelyeast7744
    @angelyeast7744 3 года назад +3

    amazing test! thank you!

  • @angoliamja
    @angoliamja 3 года назад +2

    love the time stamps! keep up the good work Jesse!

  • @elijahvargas6232
    @elijahvargas6232 3 года назад +26

    Your video quality has improved so much you’ve always been knowledgeable and stuff you don’t know your learn on camera for us to see and learn from, your just doing an overall phenomenal job keep it up mate

    • @StillIt
      @StillIt  3 года назад +2

      Cheers my man

  • @LatigoRanch
    @LatigoRanch 3 года назад +2

    Always love the videos!

  • @HopsANDgnarly
    @HopsANDgnarly 3 года назад

    B roll on point! Love it!

  • @rcbran
    @rcbran 3 года назад

    Thanks for trying this for everyone!

  • @darkwolf5319
    @darkwolf5319 2 года назад

    Love your videos because you love what you do! Please never stop making videos boss!

  • @thomjonssonpersson5784
    @thomjonssonpersson5784 Год назад

    I really liked the compilation part of the distillation. Keep it going!

  • @jimkunkle2669
    @jimkunkle2669 Год назад +1

    Lots of people say thank you to their patrion supporters. But yours is the most heartfelt.

  • @mabbeman
    @mabbeman 3 года назад +14

    I'm new here but if I understood everything correctly we're here because of the absolutely lovely way he says: "feermint" no?

  • @paulsapper
    @paulsapper 3 года назад +1

    That’s a cool video Jesse.
    Ive been thinking of doing this type of run.
    Cheers mate

  • @manatoa1
    @manatoa1 3 года назад +9

    I was completely shocked that the cold water version worked. Normally rice wine is made with soaked and steamed short grain glutinous rice. The advantage to not completely cooking the rice is that separating the liquid is easy. Normally you'd press the lees to get all the liquid out. It'd be interesting to see what kind of yield you'd have gotten with the cooked rice if you squeezed it in a brew bag.

  • @Tyresio12
    @Tyresio12 3 года назад +7

    Great video on interesting topic. I've used 9g of these yeasts per kg of grain/flour/groats and 3-4 times water. For my tests it was about 10-15% difference in terms of ethanol efficiency between hot water treated grain and cold water treated. Also, you can just add these yeasts straight to the wash, they'll be fine. No hydration step needed.

  • @nerfhringnun2098
    @nerfhringnun2098 3 года назад +26

    Our traditional style is we fermented the rice with yeast about 3 month and the alcohol got taste like sweet

  • @matthewmcmahon8568
    @matthewmcmahon8568 2 года назад +1

    I have in the past used Rice Wine Balls, you can get them at your local Asian Grocery store, normally use sticky rice in a rice maker, you want the finished rice to be a little on the wet side , whack it in a large jar or bucket & sprinkle the crushed balls on top once it has cooled below 28c. Leave it for 2-3 weeks depending on how sweet or dry you want it, drain of the liquid & let it settle if you want a clear finish. I have also run it through my air still & let it sit on oak for 6 months, you end up with a real earthy flavoured whisky.

  • @stevenjennings8347
    @stevenjennings8347 3 года назад +1

    Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙏

  • @joelpeterelliott9339
    @joelpeterelliott9339 3 года назад +42

    Long time professional brewer just getting into distilling. Wish you had distilled each batch separately. It was an interesting and valuable experiment quantitatively but with such wildly different variables on your grain it would have been fantastic to know if those variables lead to any qualitative distinction in the finished product. Perhaps the yeast in the batch that went low and slow produced fantastic esters? In my experience the best fermented beverages come from yeast that are required to work a little. Good on you for going real-time on your cuts. Thanks for the vid.

    • @StillIt
      @StillIt  3 года назад +23

      Yeah it's a really good point. I actually had a 2min section in the vid about this. But it was getting long so I cut it haha.
      I wanted to. But didn't want to move up to 3x 6kg tests. Thinking on it I could have just spirited run stilled in the mini pot.....

  • @HeartPumper
    @HeartPumper 3 года назад +3

    Holy smokes, well above 💯 k subs!! *CONGRATS* well deserved recognition! Happy to see channel growing so good !!

  • @kennethcounts5905
    @kennethcounts5905 3 года назад +2

    How cool. I have been wanting to do this but had no idea how to approach it.
    By the way I have a first gen ujssm in the fermenter, smells heavenly.

  • @lurid_phaesporia
    @lurid_phaesporia 3 года назад +5

    That's unreal that the cold water version worked so well! I like your drill-powered mill, gonna have to figure out getting one of those.

    • @hajosmulders
      @hajosmulders 3 года назад +2

      Just get a paint mixer drill attachment...

    • @tonyk2796
      @tonyk2796 3 года назад +2

      @@hajosmulders he used a roller mill to mill the rice and a paint mixer to stir.. I'm pretty sure Lurid was refering to the mill.

  • @kevindunstall5396
    @kevindunstall5396 3 года назад +2

    Great vid , very informative. And BEST laugh ever bro

  • @centarisky2185
    @centarisky2185 2 года назад

    I subscribed so I could have more of his laugh in my life. The education is now just the bonus.

  • @tchib8848
    @tchib8848 3 года назад +26

    I was JUST researching this ten minutes before you uploaded. Amazing! Please make Calvados!

  • @Demymaker
    @Demymaker 3 года назад +5

    I have used this yeast (it's actually a mix of yeast enzymes and good molds) not on rice but on wheat, I can say that full gelatinization before adding the yeast is the best way. The indications on the label try to make things simple for the user but cooking is preferable. An addition: I have used this product by harnessing its enzymes in a mash with good results, there is my post on the HD forum.

  • @nivzar740
    @nivzar740 2 года назад

    Subscribed, Liked and watched both the ads... he earned it...

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    @th3element 3 года назад

    Subscribed... this is cool and he's personable. 👍

  • @colahandyman67
    @colahandyman67 3 года назад +3

    Another great video, love the videos showing the process. Been thinking about this for a while, found on ebay AU $28.50. Might see how it works on Maize meal.

  • @jasonmiddleton1337
    @jasonmiddleton1337 3 года назад +36

    I am actually at the end of a run making sake where I grew the spores and made kome-koji then regular champagne yeast for fermentation. Was a lot more work involved but really turning out nice

    • @vladbusiness6903
      @vladbusiness6903 3 года назад +10

      you mean turning out rice

    • @bfgoalie99
      @bfgoalie99 2 года назад

      I'm currently about to start this myself but I'm curious if lactic acid is the only acid I can use or if I can use citric to help lower the pH in the first fermentation stage

    • @mattnorwood6546
      @mattnorwood6546 Год назад +1

      @@bfgoalie99 you can use either. But I’ve found making a Moto (starter) where you’ll add your Latic acid has produced better sake. That said you can just hops/citric acid to you kome-koji, rice, water and yeast as a oner.
      The biggest thing is when making sake is getting kome-koji right.
      Best of luck

  • @MirrimBlackfox
    @MirrimBlackfox 2 года назад

    Kay, when my Korean neighbor made rice wine (when I was a kid) he would use *Cooked* rice as the starting point let it cool add a little bit of extra water to moisten it, then add crushed yeast balls (you can buy them at Asian markets) while they only say "yeast" on the ingredients they clearly also have the enzimes (or maybe another culture organism) that turns the starch into sugar for the yeast to turn to alcohol. I have a batch working right now, which is why I decided to watch this video. I used half 'sweet' glutinous rice (a very high starch rice) and half Jasmin rice (because I love the way it tastes). I have made it before with just one or the other and both work.

  • @jong2359
    @jong2359 3 года назад +1

    To me, this is a god send episode. I have been using Chinese Rice Balls, which are dubious at best. There is little to no consistency in those types of products, which I never had any issues with until recently. The last batch of yeast balls was defunct and produced only sugar water, but no alcohol conversion... so this yellow label yeast seems like a gift from a consistency standpoint. I wish you had tasted the wash @ 20% ABV to give taste notes... as that is how I drink my rice wine.

  • @smilesmile6918
    @smilesmile6918 Год назад +2

    Korea and China generally make alcohol using starter made from grains mixed with mold and yeast, including glycolytic enzymes.
    In contrast, Japan grows only fungi containing glycolytic enzymes to saccharify grains, and then adds yeast to make alcohol.
    The starter you used is similar to the starter I use.

  • @tomguitaronline
    @tomguitaronline 11 месяцев назад

    I love your enthusiasm when teaching and learning about distilling and fermentation. Your crazy laugh reminds me of the lunatic song from pink floyd. Keep up the good work! tom

  • @lorenjemahli8879
    @lorenjemahli8879 3 года назад +16

    This inspired me big time! Ive used this yeast to ferment "glutinous" rice flour, arborio rice, white flour, weetbix, tapioca starch, potato starch, rolled oats... All with no heating or mashing.... Barley next. The rolled oats is so slick and smooth, i highly recommend it and the rice is lovely too, especially after second distillation. This yeast is amazing stuff!!

    • @sangrialovingairwaydoc
      @sangrialovingairwaydoc Год назад +1

      How to add green apple or any fruit taste? Alcohol content?

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  • @silver-hy6mi
    @silver-hy6mi 3 года назад

    Interesting outcome! In a funny way!

  • @antonihathaway6235
    @antonihathaway6235 3 года назад

    Very fun. I have made Sake four times from scratch. Staring with making the koji. It is about a 3 month process and then another 3-6 months of aging before it is really enjoyable. The process is of Sake is much more time consuming as there are multiple "fermiation" steps where you add more koji, rice and water.
    Instead of coking the rice, I would have recommended steaming, but in the case of this rice wine it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.

  • @adammitchell3462
    @adammitchell3462 2 года назад

    Got me a bag of yellow angel on it's way, cant wait

  • @chicoalarantianah75
    @chicoalarantianah75 3 года назад +1

    Love the UNCLE Roger shout out.. lol

  • @old-fashionedcoughypot
    @old-fashionedcoughypot 3 года назад +4

    Great video! I wonder if this type of yeast could be used to brew with "pearl" or "pot" barley using the techniques you demonstrated with rice? Would the resulting liquor be considered a 'whiskey' since it was made with barley?

  • @mikef5189
    @mikef5189 3 года назад +2

    Wine maker here, I’ve got the regular Angel Rice Leaven packets and have two rice wines going with it and a banana as well (I figured since they were starchy as well...). I haven’t made the jump to distilling yet, but thanks for the great content!

  • @BeardedBored
    @BeardedBored 3 года назад +24

    Dude, this was dope. That stuff works soooo fast! Gotta get some for myself:-) Really glad you tried it three ways to see how well it works, and I'm kinda freaking out about the potential for future cold water mashes!

    • @enric.7814
      @enric.7814 3 года назад +2

      You could try to do a Koji Whisky on your channel ;). There is no reason why the Aspergillus Flavus mold should not work with barley. That should result a wort without mashing. The Aspergillus mold produces a lot of acidic compounds and acid+ethanol=esther 😁.

    • @BeardedBored
      @BeardedBored 3 года назад +1

      @@enric.7814 Aaaand that's going on the list. Thanks!

    • @Rubberduck-tx2bh
      @Rubberduck-tx2bh 3 года назад +2

      Hey Bearded, I have a 2x25L/6 gal fermenter of rolled oats, barley, & honey done with this stuff that I will be "converting" (from Mexico of course) next week!!!

    • @BeardedBored
      @BeardedBored 3 года назад

      @@Rubberduck-tx2bh Awesome!

    • @DanRegueira
      @DanRegueira 3 года назад +1

      @@enric.7814 there's barley specific Koji strains too that have been bred in Asia to grow in barley for centuries 👀
      @Bearded & Bored if you did a video on that I would one million percent watch!

  • @findingfreeblade
    @findingfreeblade 3 года назад +1

    I really liked the video.... But I loved the description, that makes it so much easier to try and do yourself. Now that you've done it would you suggest trying with more rice than you originally used?

  • @bartweres
    @bartweres 3 года назад

    Hi Jessie thanks for another cool video. I have a question not related to this video. When I distill my all grain whiskey, its came out very sweet. I am using a pot still with Cooper mesh in the column. Wash FG is usually 1.000. I am not using corn only barley and rye malt

  • @timmcconnell1227
    @timmcconnell1227 3 года назад

    Made It!
    10# rice - milled in barley crusher
    23 gm yeast
    230 gm water for yeast hydration
    filled up 7.5 gallon tub with RO water
    waited for almost three weeks and distilled
    The batch made almost 5 pints with average ABV 135 total. The hearts were about 2 pints at 12 ABV.
    I did notice that when diluting it, that some parts of the run became slightly hazy. IMHO this is a very efficient yeast with enzyme included and makes more yield than I get from an all grain mash.
    I think that I will try the yeast with some whiskey mash and see what changes.

  • @WolfOfGehenna
    @WolfOfGehenna Год назад

    I love that you mentioned Nigel Ng xD made me chuckle

  • @sdo5517
    @sdo5517 2 года назад +1

    I just ran my first batch of Shochu in a 3 gallon pot still with a thumper. What I did was use 5# of short grain sushi rice that was cracked in a blender (no grain mill) and mixed with 2.5 gallons of water. Stirred constantly during the boil until completely gelitinized. Cooled down until around 155F. Added 2 pounds of malted 6 row barley and allowed a saccharification rest for 60 minutes. Added a pack of amylase b to help break down the sugar chains.
    Lined a 5 gallon bucket with a brew in a bag and topped off with water. Added a bit of sugar to get the potental alcohol to 15% or so. I ground up 6 chinese yeast balls from a local asian market and pitched. I then checked the fermentation and allowed to go for about 3 weeks. Pulled the bag with the rice solids and squeezed it like it owed me money. I then racked into a clean carboy and let the other solids settle out for a few days. Two stripping runs that yielded just under 2 gallons so did another 3 gallon ferment.
    Ran a spirit run and ended up with just under a quart of 78% after the cuts. first 120ml jar came out at 82% followed by 4 120ml jars at 85% followed by 4 120ml jars of 80%. i cut the tails at 78% as the mouth feel was extremely astringent and was not pleasant.
    I troughly enjoy everything that you do and you have started me in chasing the craft.

  • @inkukchoi3972
    @inkukchoi3972 3 года назад

    Jesse, I really enjoyed your video with curiosity about the result of your experiment. I think the yeast is mixed with enzyme I hope to use it someday. I’m from Korea and I’m distilling Soju unlike what you did. 😅. But you did a good job.

  • @cha0tykharm0nye
    @cha0tykharm0nye 3 года назад +12

    Came out of curiosity and got an Uncle Roger reference. Fuiyoh 😌

  • @Ansis99
    @Ansis99 3 года назад

    Yes! We agree about +/- 50% ABV to collect! Yes! I do it all the time! 😇

  • @Woffie70
    @Woffie70 8 месяцев назад

    Jesse- Love the bits of wisdom you have given over the years. I've been a brewer for a while and just moved where I can do a little home distilling without worry. I have watched quite a few other vids and some say that both sugar wash and rice wine have so little impurities taking 2 shots is enough for the heads. Is this true or BS? Both my wife and I LOVE Soju - even to the point I came home from work with her starting a brew batch of Makgeolli. SHE don't brew... I was so proud! ;)
    First try (and fighting all my urges to let it totally ferment out) still let it go a tad too long so we got a touch sour in the mix. Next batch will be 5-7 days max. Distilling now and it was nasty rocket fuel for about 4 shots worth. I'm into the hearts now Still got about an hour to go....wish me luck! :) Any advice would be welcomed O' Master Distiller.

  • @lekcom62
    @lekcom62 Год назад

    wicked thankyou MATE

  • @timothyjones9430
    @timothyjones9430 2 года назад

    good video...

  • @antonihathaway6235
    @antonihathaway6235 3 года назад

    With regards to the Boiled Rice. It absorbs a lot more water and swells. When I've make SAKE I have to press the rice to get the fluids out of the "porridge". In my case it is a mesh bad in a fruit press, but you could use the hang and drip method (twisting the bag to help speed it up some). Again, in the case of sake you then have multiple rakings trying to leave the settled solids at the bottom.
    Transferring this to rice wine, I would put it in a bag (hang and twist), let it settle for a day and siphon off. I think you would up the output this way.

  • @eemoogee160
    @eemoogee160 3 года назад

    I gotta try this to make makkeolli!

  • @johnmeister8429
    @johnmeister8429 2 года назад +1

    What I have found that works really well to cook your rice and prevent scorching is to get a really large pot, fill it just over half full with water, bring the water to a rolling boil, turn off the heat, add your rice, cover with a lid and let it set for 35-45 minutes. I stir it about Avery 10 minutes or so. I cooked 15 lbs of rice like this with no scorch.
    Love the channel! Keep on keeping on!

    • @xergi123
      @xergi123 Год назад

      Absorbsion method also saves on fuel costs, and gives a better taste to the rice, i.m.o.

  • @danielobrien9536
    @danielobrien9536 2 года назад

    Cool video and awesome concept. Was just wondering if this could be done with any other kind of yeast as im not sure where to find this product?

  • @onlybirdlad2
    @onlybirdlad2 3 года назад

    I have had my turbo 500 sitting here for 9 months just waiting to use, your videos are giving me a lot of hope. But more to the point of this particular video, what about trying with sweet rice instead? I have just made a tuak (Malaysian rice wine) and swapped out the white sugar with corn sugar, its pretty good. Looking forward to more vids my man. Also if you can link me one of your videos of 'distiling for idiots' that would be grand.

  • @mebesaturday
    @mebesaturday 3 года назад

    Hello, living in Vietnam during the Covid and decided to try and make this. I will be using Vietnamese rice balls (VN version of koji, I think). They are about $1.50usd for enough to do 10kg of rice. Wish me luck!

  • @justinfraser204
    @justinfraser204 3 года назад

    So far this is working great. Two days into fermentation and I have about 50 gallons of it going strong.

    • @justinfraser204
      @justinfraser204 3 года назад

      As a follow up here. My gravity ended at an astonishing 0.990. Nice and dry. Pleasant, but interesting aroma. It was definitely a bugger to get all the solids out and squeeze it through a bag, but seems to be totally worth the effort. I ran a stripping run of it and if I had to guess, I'd say I got just a little tiny bit less than I'd expect from an all-grain mash strip run- I get pretty good efficiency on those right around 80%, so I'd say this rice mash was a winner.

    • @justinfraser204
      @justinfraser204 Год назад

      Thought I'd post another follow up. I ended up barreling 30 gallons of this at 62.5% about one year ago. I took out a sample, proofed it down and it's quite fantastic. Everyone who I gave tastes to thought it was great. It'll be going in the tasting room at 30-40 a bottle for sure. Thanks again!

  • @JimmyReidJr1
    @JimmyReidJr1 3 года назад +7

    I know nothing about stills, I don't even drink, but I think this is my favorite channel on RUclips just for the beard and the voice.

  • @seamus6387
    @seamus6387 3 года назад

    I can't distill where I am but, I have used the "yeast balls" you can find in chinese, and I'm sure any asian grocers, to make rice beer/wine. It can come out pretty bland and sweet when very young, meaning the first clear liquid poured off as you see separation. Aged it gets floral and has like a slight sour, tropical fruit tang. Was made using steamed rice, fully cooked but not mushy. Easily finished in under a month but can set on the lee's a while with no problem. I've found that this is one of the cleanest tasting hot weather ferments I've seen. All in all good stuff. And yes, the rice you use changes the brew slightly.

  • @ghiman206
    @ghiman206 3 года назад +1

    You should try washing the rice so that it runs relatively clear before proceeding with your brewing process. This gets rid of alot of the rough starches, and should leave you wtih a cleaner, florally and touch lighter on the mouthfeel spirit. Amazing vid

  • @jonathanleonardo2271
    @jonathanleonardo2271 3 года назад +2

    As someone with only experience making rice wine through traditional Thai methods (crushed yeast balls mixed into cooked rice), this was a bit different to me. One question I have is the type of rice you are using. It seems to be a standard short to medium grain rice. I’ve never made rice wine with anything but sticky/glutinous rice. These have a much much higher starch(and therefore sugar) content and lend wonderfully to making spirits.

  • @defnotmee5085
    @defnotmee5085 3 года назад

    If you work with koji, which might be a component of that yellow angel (haven't researched it), you could bust out sake in a little over two weeks, though ideally longer if you want it smooth. Anyhow, fermentation alone will get it around 20 percent. Distilling from there... Is beyond me. Thx for the video!

  • @R355UR3C7
    @R355UR3C7 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video. Your videos have inspired me to try this as my new hobby.
    I'm thinking to add a few extra steps.
    1. I've heard short rice can give a better flavour
    2. Washing the rice, until the water is clear, before cooking is best
    3. Dehydrating the rice after cooking, removing excess water.
    Not sure if these are all true or good, but will give it a go.
    Cheers

    • @danielwade6987
      @danielwade6987 2 года назад +1

      I know from experience that short grain is best for flavor but if you are looking for more ALC long grain seems to have more starch there for more sugar. The taste is not that much different.

  • @solocaretaker2034
    @solocaretaker2034 2 года назад

    Thanks Jesse. I really liked the three test runs. Never thought about doing that super cool. I’m personally thinking cooking is not worth the energy Oh. What about left over rice from your favorite Asian place! I’m
    Getting take out tonight lol

  • @davagain
    @davagain 3 года назад +1

    On the subject of the boiled rice wash not settling out well - if you have 3 liters of trub/residue left, that is a reasonable volume for cold crashing. That may help salvage some of the residual wash.

  • @edwardbrown7571
    @edwardbrown7571 Год назад

    Thank you~!!

  • @wongchris9036
    @wongchris9036 3 года назад

    It is cool with this Yellow Label Angel Yeast

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS 3 года назад

    wow sounds like it was kinda successful, on your second run did you just add the spirit as is in the still or do you proof it down to 20%abv with water or left over sour backwash ?

  • @ryanblystone5153
    @ryanblystone5153 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @Soul_Younes
    @Soul_Younes 3 года назад +1

    Did you factor in the additional time/energy/resources wasted for the cooked and uncooked hot versions when comparing their efficiency to the cold one?

  • @luisledesma586
    @luisledesma586 3 года назад +5

    I don't bother with squeezing the most of my still, I give the heads to my lawn mower gas tank; she is very happy doing her job.

  • @nickhope9563
    @nickhope9563 2 года назад

    Hi Jessie
    Following this video and gave started 3 batches. Using 960 kg of sushi rice and yellow label and various temp start the resulsts.are.similar alrwas ady ro your video
    As instir grain, noticed majority still mediun sizestill even though achieving 10%abv. Going to hit mah again with koji rice and ared wine yeast to give sone fruit conplexcity. 1 week in to experiment

  • @TodmordenFred
    @TodmordenFred 3 года назад

    Finaly you’ve got round to doing it. Fantastic, been waiting ages....
    Glad it turned out well and you liked the product.
    No mention of any off smells during fermentation that gets mentioned a lot.
    Are you going to do a barley run too using it? I mean you have heaps of the Angel to play around with now 😉

    • @TodmordenFred
      @TodmordenFred 3 года назад

      Would also like to see a more traditional style. Wash rice (short grain sweet, pudding or risotto) or soak for 24hrs.
      Drain. Then cook or steam.
      Tip out and spread to cool.(no liquid) once cook spread over angel. And mix up.
      If distilling on grain then put into bucket and wait 20 days to a month and then potstill. Or put in wide container and make a well in middle of rice. Once done ladle out liquid in well and potstill. Would love to see your take on that and tasting notes.
      ruclips.net/video/Xl2C_f4zW2A/видео.html

    • @Tyresio12
      @Tyresio12 3 года назад

      Tested it with barley groats and barley flour, works fine with both. Flour provides 10% better yield.

  • @user-we5gv7zd1c
    @user-we5gv7zd1c 3 месяца назад

    I'll be in Auckland in March, it would be cool to meet you in person

  • @DavidSprogis
    @DavidSprogis 3 года назад

    Jesse, love your show!
    Followed your hot water version with three varieties of short grain sushi rice. 24 hours later all three had the smell of rotten eggs.
    Google revealed a solution on a wine blog - wish I could credit it but I cannot find it now.
    I added yeast nutrient to my 4+ gallon brews (3 tsp rather than 4) then agitated aggressively until the rotten egg smell was gone.
    Added another 6g yellow label on the basis that the first 12g did not multiply properly then agitated aggressively, introducing as much air as possible.
    Lowered the fermenting temp to 72F (22C).
    I now have the lovely smell of sweet ferment ... hoping it will last through the remaining 2 weeks.
    Also, I noticed that the instructions of the yellow label bag indicate that you should try to use it all once you open the bag. Yikes! It's expensive and I would hate to lose it all so I dropped in in a ziplock bag with a couple of silica gel packets and hope it will last.
    Have a kick-ass week and I will try to follow-up with the results of my rescued ferment!

    • @DavidSprogis
      @DavidSprogis 3 года назад

      Another 24 hours has past for a total of 56 hours since the yeast was pitched. The lovely fragrance that was coming off yesterday is starting to fade and I am picking up a little funny smell - maybe I am over-sensitive about these batches. I am thinking about aerating them again as I contemplate the anaerobic phase.

  • @daughtersofzion-ly4hn
    @daughtersofzion-ly4hn 11 месяцев назад

    Yep just did this

  • @AdamSymonds
    @AdamSymonds 2 года назад +23

    I would love to see you perform a similar 'yellow label' angel yeat experiment using corn and malt to make a 'bourbon' style spirit. Cheers :)

  • @jhouston251
    @jhouston251 3 года назад +3

    I'm starting a wash this weekend using the yeast balls. My local brew store got some in.. funny enough it's the same local brew store as bearded and bored.

    • @peterscully4961
      @peterscully4961 3 года назад +1

      I have yeast balls from a local Chinese grocer - like Jesse's yeast they contain the bacteria that breaks down starches and possibly proteins. Glutinous rice is not only a little sweeter, it isn't polished like regular rice so can be used without cracking, but cracking it is better.

  • @southcack8245
    @southcack8245 3 года назад +3

    Good one Jesse! I've had a bag in the fridge for a few months. Looking forward to making a rice/wheat vodka using my CCVM. Wish there was some place other than China that made it. Takes forever to ship.

    • @StillIt
      @StillIt  3 года назад

      Nice man. You may find a local supplier. There is one in NZ now :)

    • @commentingisawasteoftime7195
      @commentingisawasteoftime7195 3 года назад

      See if you can't find chinese yeast balls like shanghai yeast balls

  • @lorenjemahli8879
    @lorenjemahli8879 3 года назад

    A question for you Jesse... Im fermenting some raw barley with this yellow label angel yeast which is going along nicely, do you think the flavour of malted barley is important for making whiskey? I guess I'll find out soon enough

  • @richardorris7298
    @richardorris7298 2 года назад +1

    Howdy Jesse ! I'm RickO from PA USA .. I'm new .. and I'm hooked ... on your great "gateway" videos. I just run 'n cut my 1st ever batch, a Sugar Wash (Strip then Spirit Reflux) and now I'm heading to the Rice bin with a batcha Yellow Label yeast... following your lead n keeping George nearby. Luv you 2 guys! 'n THANKS bunches fer my batches ! I'magonna try fruits next, as they ripen locally, and my bee hive's honey's on the horizon. (fingers crossed) ... Anyway, I've heard you say WHO makes your outta this world spirits shirts, but I just can't fish it out of all the vids so ... Plzplzplz parley the Printer if possible (again) that I might score a spectacular spacey shirt from them. ..'n yep ... I got a new Hobby Habit ... "Chasin' the Craft" .. thanks again!

    • @StillIt
      @StillIt  2 года назад +1

      Hows it going mate welcome to the craft!~
      Oh its into the AM my dude. They are a regular sponsor now. You can use this link to get to their website and get 10% off :)
      intotheam.com/CTC-TEE

  • @DigiMannen
    @DigiMannen 3 года назад

    I just got the yeast today, milled 3 kg of rice and poured over 5 l boiling spring water and stirred, added another 20 liter spring water and 20 gram hydrated yeast.
    Planning on making soju.
    Going to use column still to get 92-94 % alcohol, throw away the first 25 cl, then distill until temp drop, proof it to 42%, then age for 2 months with French oak tempered at 180c for 2 hours.
    Looking to get that Hwayo Soju taste.

  • @roytetwart
    @roytetwart 3 года назад

    I've been using an "Air Still" (Very small time distilling), and I'm very much into small-time stuff. However, I find your videos
    so interesting that I want to go on to the next level. I just love your enthusiasm, it's very infectious! My trouble is, I don't
    fully understand some of your phrases. For example "Stripping". Would you be able to make a video explaining in layman's
    terms some of your phrases? There must be many out there like me who would be grateful for basic help.

    • @jasonjerabek9052
      @jasonjerabek9052 Год назад

      Get on the home distiller forums. Endless amounts of information.

  • @DGalante
    @DGalante 3 месяца назад

    Thanks so much for making this. It answered a lot of my questions! I am curious what the starting gravity was for your 3 mashes? Seems to me with 2kg of rice in 18L H2O you would be around 1.030 at best?

  • @greybeard27
    @greybeard27 3 года назад +7

    It would have been interesting to see what you thought of the taste of each before you distilled it, being that rice wine of this type is made all over Vietnam and neighbouring countries (which ranges from very drinkable to something you'd only use to wash your paint brushes in).

  • @christiansk1523
    @christiansk1523 Год назад

    I'm going to make this stuff. rice wine is insane, I'm using Japanese rice, and trying your method, I know when you tasted it, rice makes people go insane

  • @SeeYouInBluffington
    @SeeYouInBluffington Год назад

    The clarity of this video is wild 😂

  • @spikelove9533
    @spikelove9533 3 года назад +11

    I've been making Rice whiskey for years. I do mash it. Rice whiskey is amazing! I've used both milled and flaked Rice. I usually save a gallon of wash as Saki its really yummy. Thanks for the fun video. I've always use plane old DADY yeast. Thanks for the neat video.

    • @samfarahani7772
      @samfarahani7772 3 года назад

      I have read and seen japanese use a mold to convert starch in rice to a fermentable sugar through a laborious process then fermenting the rice with yeasts. How did you achieve fermentation. In this video there is no explanation as what are the ingridients of the yeast package nor how starch became fermentable. If you have any explanations...it is appreciated. Sam from Iran 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @spikelove9533
      @spikelove9533 3 года назад +4

      @@samfarahani7772 I Sam from Iran I hope your doing well. I just do a mash with rice just like a mash with corn. I either gelatinize it or use flaked rice. Then I use 6 row barely or powdered enzimes to convert the starches. I also add some unrefiend sugar to get the ABV to about 10%. I hope this helps if you need more explanation ill keep an eye out for any questions.
      I've seen vids of people uesing mold as well but I've never tried it my slef .

    • @yakovbok4982
      @yakovbok4982 3 года назад +6

      @@samfarahani7772 The Angel contains Rhizopus, yeast, amylase and protease.
      The Rhizopus is able to attack the starch and hydrolyse it without gelatinisation. This is "dry hydrolysis". The Rhizopus also excretes amylase to help saccarify the starch. Once the starch is converted to sugar the yeast converts it to ethanol.
      It does all the usual steps in mashing and fermenting but at the same time.

    • @johnivy2008
      @johnivy2008 3 года назад

      Hi, is there an alternative for yeast?

    • @spikelove9533
      @spikelove9533 3 года назад +2

      @@johnivy2008 I dont think so you can use chines yeast balls they have a different fungus than just yeast in them. JiuQu it usually comes in balls you have to smash up. Look on ebay then brows threw some RUclips videos on making traditional saki

  • @wrusst
    @wrusst 3 года назад +1

    This was way easier than making sake however the yeast and koji used makes a lot of flavours . The Japanese use a doubling method to ferment also to get the yeast used to high abv (15%) . Also they can ferment at cold temperatures to make interesting flavors

    • @danielwade6987
      @danielwade6987 2 года назад +1

      The yeast balls also produce a high alcohol of about 18% and the flavor is very much like SAKI. I've taken it to samplings, and most don't know the difference.

  • @matt-jv8gh
    @matt-jv8gh 3 года назад

    i've saeen you distill some weird stuff, i'd love to see you distill acorns and cattail root, both have a good amount of starch and the acorns would definitely be interesting to find out what kinds of flavors carry over

  • @mrskelington
    @mrskelington 2 года назад

    Hey mate, great channel. Can you advise where to get this yellow label yeast in NZ? And do you have details on the equipment setup for beginners? I'm shopping Aliexpress for some gear to have a dabble in this craft. I'm especially keen in this rice distilling!

  • @jasonkuetemann2406
    @jasonkuetemann2406 3 года назад +4

    I haven't been able to source the Angel 'Starter of Liquor Making' yellow label product from anywhere other than an order right from China, but I am curious to try it. I have done a rice whiskey with cooked rice and converted with alpha and beta amylase enzymes and EC-1118 yeast. I found similarly to you that the tails are relatively non-offensive, heads are minimal and the cut that makes the blend is rather wide. Creamy mouthfeel, mild alcohol heat and a sweetness along with hints of the rice on both the nose and palate make it a very pleasant product. It is great white or lightly oaked with toasted wood, no char. That pumps up the character quite a bit. Also an excellent mixer. Keep up the good work!

    • @commentingisawasteoftime7195
      @commentingisawasteoftime7195 3 года назад

      Shanghai yeast balls are also an option

    • @jasonkuetemann2406
      @jasonkuetemann2406 3 года назад

      I have looked for yeast balls as well without success. I just don't have a really good Asian market that I'm aware of within an hour or so drive. I will eventually just order them online and wait.

    • @Tyresio12
      @Tyresio12 3 года назад

      Check the Spiritferm if they ship to your country, they have "Koji yeasts" in their offer.

    • @commentingisawasteoftime7195
      @commentingisawasteoftime7195 3 года назад

      @@Tyresio12 their website got hacked. I got a million redirects when I clicked the link from google

    • @yeastwholesale2536
      @yeastwholesale2536 3 года назад

      Check the video description, it is available on this NZ website
      www.yeast.nz/product/yellow-label-version-distillers-yeast/
      Use this CTC as coupon code.