2022 Chevy Silverado 2.7L Turbo 4 VS 5.3L V8 MPG Run! Don't Buy until You Watch First!
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2022
- Check out this comparison of the Chevy Silverado with a 2.7L Turbo 4 cylinder and a 5.3L V8. How bad with the 4 banger beat it by??? || Like || Subscribe || Share ||
Special Thanks to Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Frederick, MD for allowing me to do this test!
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Just recently bought a 2022 Blue Chevy Silverado Custom like in the video more stripped down for under 40,000. I was more interested in a fuel efficient vehicle but price outweighed the importance of gas so I got the 4 cylinder 2.7 L turbo. I'm happy with my purchase I'm glad that I got the 4 cylinder. Thanks for the review I've been looking for a video of the new 2022 Silverado.
MythBusters did a test on pickups with tailgate up, down and with a canopy. The tailgate up got the best MPG. They found the wind hits the tailgate, swirls forward and actually pushed forward helping the fuel economy.
Yeah I remember that episode
Yes sir you are correct 👍This is true. Open bed with tailgate closed gives best fuel economy.
I haven't seen that episode, thank you all for verifying. I would assume, just like many others that it wouldn't have, only because if it does indeed pushes it forward. It would be cancelling itself out after accounting for the negative impact on the tailgate initially..... 🤔 I'm still gonna remove my bedcover 😉
So my truck is essentially part pirate ship you say
The wind didn't hit the back of the tailgate in the show. An Eddie currently formed in the bed of the truck and was trapped by the tailgate. When air traveled over the roof, it was deflected by the Eddie current and went over the tailgate. The coefficient of friction of air on air is smaller than air on metal resulting in better gas mileage.
This video is a wonderful sales pitch for the 2.7. Thank you for the content! Very informative.
I still own a 8 cilinders truck at this moment and I just bought the 2022 Silverado 4 cilinder turbo 2.7L 2wd I live in Los Ángeles I am a truck person always so this time was hard to go for a 4 cilinder but due to the gas prices I finally got it!! big surprise I just hear all my coworkers crying 😭 every week over the gas. If you live on the city and deal with traffic this Chevy 2.7L is a blessed 🥰
Ordered a Silverado with a 5.3 V8 in February. This video just reassures me that I made the right choice. Great video, thanks for sharing.
I’m ready to try that 4cyl turbo in the Colorado and see how it does. I had the 2.8 diesel and loved it that torque was amazing.
Drove from Missouri to Florida and back in my 21 Tahoe 5.3 10 speed and the computer said 22 average all highway at about 75-80.
A four cylinder diesel is not the same a a 4 cylinder gasser especially when it's under the hood of a truck
This is video iv been waiting for but would like power comparison also.
Awesome video keep up good work.
Thanks
Josh
I am trying to get the power side by side, can’t do a all out drag race but will compare acceleration 👍🏾
yo bro thx for this side by side comparison it was much needed
A turbo 4 banger with 430 lb torque. I will be getting the custom trailboss with the 2.7 turbo. I enjoyed the low end torque compared to the 5.3.
I think the thing I would do to make this more accurate would be to go for a long drive in both from a full tank..at least 100 miles or so or if possible, a full tank of each, with the same size fuel tank obviously which I I would assume these have. Then hand calculate once you fill the tanks back up.
Good points! I love my single cab work truck with the 5.3l Plenty of power, sounds terrific (thanks Flowmaster) and should run forever.
Hell yeah
My 1999 Z71 5.3 4x4 extra cab also got `17mpg' lol. Good content keep it up.
I think this would be alot more accurate if you drove them both at least 100 miles, plus the 2.7 is lifted/bigger tires etc.
JB these trucks now a days are super over priced I paid 34k out the door for my 2019 silverado 1500 LT with a 5.3 liter and that black truck is over 57k that's insane
Got my 2020 Silverado 3500 dually crew cab long bed 4x4 LT financed 60k with a 150k miles warranty.
Yea they have really jumped in price with no noticeable gain in features 👍🏾
Agree, my new 2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn, 5.7 with 4x4 (and most options available at that trim level) was $38k. Feels like a steal based on prices these days
I keep saying it…. “Nothing makes sense anymore “!
Got my 2020 z71 5.3 V8 custom for 45K … 5k under sticker price cash and NOBODY wanted to give it to me for cheaper. Now the same truck is close to 56K got me fucked up 🥴
Thank you, very useful video, that answered my question about which engine to pick. Cheers
Thank you for showing the door stickers! I’m always looking for real world numbers for payload and towing out of the factory
No problem I do it in all my videos 👍🏾
Manufacturers have to play to the Government testing for the EPA ratings. Pure and simple - it's all about EPA especially these days with the CAFE standards headed to 40 MPG. Just like Fords Ecoboost, you can have either economy or power but not both at the same time. Personally, I would take a V8 all day long.
I have a 2020 2.7L Silverado and average 25+MPG on the Highway going between 60 and 65mph. MPG drops fast over 65mph, my best was 28MPG on a 200 mile trip. I love this engine
It's a good engine but I feel like it would be a much better fit in a Colorado or Canyon. If it can do that like you state think of what it would be like if was in a truck that's 1,800 lbs lighter.
I also had 2020 GMC with the 2.7 averaged 24mpg daily best was 32 on a trip. Very good engine for a daily driver , I never towed with it. I had a 2017 with the 5.3 multidisplacement engine. Best mpg with it was 21 . It would be nice to see this engine in a Colorado/Canyon.
I have a 2022 2.7 and I've gotten 30mpg regularly
Another great video JB!
I agree with your assessment. Plus, the 8cyl has a pretty good track record. The 4 cyl turbo has yet to make a name for itself as it's only been available for a short while. "Time will tell".
It’s been out since 2019
This was a really good review. I have a 2018 Silverado 1500 5.3 with a six speed. I consistently get 20-21 measured highway with the engine fully broken in. City is right around 15. It was really good to see the comparison.
I have owned 4 5.3 trucks over 20 years and always got 15 city 17/18 highway. Not driving hard but not like a grandma either.
I’ve had my 2015 with the 5.3 with the 6 speed for about 50k miles my avg overall 50k miles is at 16 on my trip gauge
Driven in city about 14 down to 12
Highway 16 to 21 mpg depending on going up or down in elevation.
I ride slightly heavier wheels
275 65 20
That knocked my fuel economy overall about 2 miles a gallon. With
Larger displacement engines don’t you don’t need to squirt as much gas as the smaller displacement ones to keep up. overall they all are about the same all the way to the 6.2 the mileage is about the same.
My dad has the 2020 trailboss 5.3 on the highway it gets around 22-24 mpg. He did add the k&n air filter it did with about 2 mpg extra. Reminder the trailboss has a 10 speed transmission and it's very smooth shifting. I really did enjoy the video and thank you.
You are not getting a 2mpg increase with a air filter lol. I know, I sold them, and installed them on diesels, performance motors. Intakes are minimal without tuning the ECU.
@Caleb Niederhofer sounds like your the mechanic that never made it far! I can honestly say results may vary. I noticed the biggest increase was with gas engines not freaking diesels, diesels like our 7.3 power stroke didn't like and neither did the duramax. Both very sensitive and picky. But you believe what you want and have a wonderful day filling people's heads with bs.
@@cameroncassel994 Instead of being educated, you are going to write a ignorant response. This is undoubtably the way social media is typically. You have no idea what I know, or don’t know lol. I said diesel, performance motors. You will typically see better results out of diesel motors actually, do to most of them being turbo charged, and the larger motors having bigger intakes.
@@cameroncassel994 It is not about believing what I want. I am correct. I have seen the Dyno numbers to back it up. You hardly get any kind of performance, or economy increase out of just a filter by itself.
Tbh the 2.7t is really good, the turbo spools up really nice when you have the window down, tbh I haven’t had a issue with it now
I have the 2022 one and the turbo does spool up but i got roasted by my 15 year old cusin he said it sounds like a rc truck i cant un hear it i need a V8 i cant trade 😭😭😭
Put an catless downpipe on with a straight pipe and cold air intake and i bet it will beat a v8 and get way better mpg when that turbo can flow unrestricted.
I like your advise on quality of fuel Sir that plays a critical role in fuel mileage I am a believer in that .
Great video ! I have 21 5.3 l unfortunately the lifters start chattering and the longevity is not there. This is my second truck from a gm buy back with lifters! I’m go today for the elevation 2.7 ! The lifters in the 5.3 have been a nightmare for gm! I believe 2.7 maybe replacing the 5.3 !
I bought a 22’ 5.3L 1500 RST and I regularly get ~17-20mpg on the highway. Best I’ve gotten is around 24mpg in an ideal scenario. My first truck ever and I love it. Sure gas is expensive, but I knew that getting into the game so I’m not going to cry about it. It seems to me people need to learn to adjust some of their unrealistic expectations. Great video!
Thanks Kyle 👍🏾
I got similar as well with my 21 5.3 TB. I lifted the front an additional 1.75” and put on 295/70/18 that measure 34.25”x12”. Not I get 16.5 to 20 mpg.
I agree 👍
You might want to investigate the affects that dfm (dynamic fuel management or afm active fuel management) has on engine life with failing lifters and bent push rods. Auto start/stop isn't really good for the engine either.
@@keithsurdyke2535 that’s exactly why I bought my 2021 since those features were missing due to the chip shortage at the time. Gm gave me a few $50 dollars credits. Lol.
Interesting and useful comparison. Thanks.
I randomly been doing some research on these trucks and watching a couple videos it was cool to see one that in my home town on the roads i drive daily
*The cold tire pressure wasn’t mentioned. Both vehicles should be checked for manufacturer recommendations before testing. This can make a BIG difference.*
First time towing with the 4cyl turbo Silverado. Towing open single axel trailer with Polaris Ranger. Low fuel light came on. Didn’t make it to the next exit. Ran out of gas on the exit ramp. Mpg towing was 10.3. Decent mpg when not towing. But if you find yourself under boost, watch out!
Sounds like a you problem, you ran out of gas. Fill your tank up. What towing mpg do you get with a v8? I just think a turbo 4 is too gay. 55° is not too "chilly".
Boost is not just free power, it is dumping fuel in too.
I tow my Honda talonx4 and talon 4 with my 2021 2.7 and don’t fall below 15 mpg lol something is wrong with your truck
The worst would be about 20 miles per gallon.
I traded my 2019 Silverado LT for a Titan in March. I just traded that Titan for a new RST Silverado. I couldn’t be happier. I went to Boston from New Jersey and I got an average of 21.7 mpg. Titan gave me 12. So the 5.3 gives you power and good mpg. Haven’t tried that 4 cylinder and I refuse to do so
Some vehicles are definitely more accurate with their mpg monitors than others. My MB ML350 was always spot on. After I compared it 3 times to what I calculated at the pump, I just didn’t bother anymore. It was always dead right. It’s usually towing (from what I’ve seen on channels) that messes it up. Surprisingly, I did a trip today with my new Silverado (Duramax) towing a little over 12K pounds and the gauge was really accurate. I didn’t keep the receipt or exact numbers, but want to say it was like 169.7 miles and It took 20.378 gallons, which is 8.33 mpg and the truck showed 8.4. That’s close enough for me and very accurate. But ya, I’ve seen them test vehicles on TFL and they’re 2 miles a gallon off, sometimes more. Some say 27 and they get 24. I guess Chevy got this right.
Yea I’ve noticed when you do a lot of stop/go and idling it can throw it off too. Back in the day, they were not as accurate but todays computers are a lot better 👍🏾
I love the idea of a small displacement boosted engine, but it sounds a little rough at 6:30
I have had several trucks with the 5.3. Leased a new 2022 Silverado LT model in February. Due to the limited number of trucks, I went with the 2.7 turbo. I will admit that i was not sold on it at first but now after having it 8 months, I am happy with it. Drove it from Michigan to Florida in March and averaged 24.2 MPG with a best of 27.8 MPG. I hauled a 6500lb boat with it over the summer and was very impressed with the performance. It didn't accelerate fast but it did the job just fine. Turned the tow/haul on and set the cruise at 80mph and it didn't downshift on the hills like the 5.3 did. I assuming that was due to the turbo. Overall very happy with it but will admit that I'll probably go with the 3.0 duramax or 6.2 next time due to not knowing what the longevity of the 2.7 will be. FYI I think the road noise is from the lack sound insulation in the custom compared to the LT.
The 2.7 L Turbo 4 has higher torque at lower RPM, than the V8 and that is why it did't downshift as much as the V8.
Question. What if you reset mpg trip meter as your cruising. And see what mpg you get during that actual run. All the stop n go and averaging until you hit cruise speed is inaccurate. If I'm on high way....I reset and my mpg hit 25 mpg plus on flat highway minimum hills.
I have 22 LTD with 5.3 I drive it from Texas- New York the best I got was 22.3 at 75mph mine don’t have the active fuel management. Love the 5.3 good power I had 21 with the 2.7 didn’t care for it
JB, good job on the video. You need to know that when it come to gear ratio, the lower number (3.23) represents a higher gear. I.E., less take off power and better top end and economy. The 3.42 means lower ratio, better take off power and less on the top end and lower fuel economy.
We used to call them "taller" gears
I have the 2020 Sierra 1500 4x4 with the 2.7L and so far have not been disappointed. Towing and payload are plenty for the average guy, the turbo is a bit laggy from a stop, but if your cruising down the road and step on it to pass, it feels darn near a V8. The fuel economy isn't quite as good as advertised but still decent. I traded in my 2016 Ram 5.7 quad cab and am not regretting it, probably saving $100 a month in fuel.
Have you beaten on the 2.7 ?
and does it still work after 5 months
@@jayplatas5412 almost 3 years and counting and no issues yet besides a freak oil filter rupture which I think was just a bad filter. And I guess it depends on your definition of beating on it. I've hauled a bed full of A gravel which was pushing it capacity wise, most I tow is a pair of seadoos so not much there. I've gunned it plenty of times and the turbo hasn't given me any indication of problems. All in all, if your using it for everyday kinda stuff, it's been great. If your a HP guy or need to tow heavy stuff often, probably not the truck you want.
I liked the video. I drive the same way with my turbo rdx(23.9) turbo gauge always up. I do punch it on the freeway on ramps to blow the carbon out....runs real good. My 21 tacoma 3.5 gets 21.5.
Can you tell me the comparison between the 2020 Silverado 2.7L turbo and the 4.3L V6 that I bought
3 years in and it's very hard to find negative reviews of the 2.7L. The biggest complaint is sound, which to me is a non issue. Most of the reviews I have read are positive.
Let’s see it make it to 200k miles doing truck things (towing/hauling periodically ) without any major components failing…then we can give it A stamp of approval.
The 2022 refresh 2.7 is amazing! it pulls hard! I picked it over the 5.3.
I have the 2021 2.7, it's been absolutely perfect. The sound is my biggest complaint. I haven't pulled a trailer with it though, just use the bed to haul stuff. It's been great so far, I'm at 30k miles with zero issues.
@@the_truck_farmer Very few trucks are going to make it to 200,000 miles without having issues. A truck like this will fit a lot of peoples lifestyles. If you are pulling something regularly it isn’t probably the best choice but if it’s once a month or so it’s a great option.
@@toddstarrett3846 A pre- displacement on demand GM roller cam fuel injected 5.7 or 5.3 (87-07) would go well over 200k if maintained.
Good video guy. I’m actually considering purchasing a 1500 with the 4cyl. 2 wheel drive Custom, double cab, Standard bed. My reasons are more cost related than fuel mileage. Besides I still can’t wrap my head around a 4cyl in a half ton truck. But I have driven one and it’s quite impressive. Just retired and not looking to have a huge note. But I enjoyed your video. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing Charles and good luck with your purchase and congrats on retirement 👍🏾
Eighteen wheelers are 6 cylinder and pull 100s of tons..a 4 cylinder 4bt can push 700hp with just a few adjustments...more cylinders does not equal more power.and the 4bt will get 45 to 50mpg in a jeep or car swap. simple delete on that 2.7 would be getting 30 35mpg.
@@mrrod3004 they're also diesels lol and have huge engine blocks and turbos. Not the same bud
@@gabrielgalaxygh who are you even talkin to. there not huger some of those engine only make around 250 to 350hp in big truck some have the same exact engine as a 3500 i work on them for living dude. go try and be relevant somewhere else. the 1500 is a diesel version where talking about. some people are idiots. the 2.7 is a turbo diesel in this video...
@@gabrielgalaxygh exactly total difference versus gas
Nice review! Thanks, wish you would’ve taken the 4 cyl up a few hills and down. I got a 4 banger Colorado and after buying it realized my transmission will fail at some point if I’m on hills too much. Money saved will go to repairs. Anyhow I should’ve gotten a stinger engine and transmission. Regretting it now. That’s why I’m looking at something stronger and figure what I spend in fuel I’ll save on repairs
Didn't they prove on Mythbuster's that the bed cover did not make a difference on fuel economy? That the tailgate helped create a pocket of air that the incoming air flow would flow right over the top of it. That is why you can have trash in the back of your truck at highway speeds and the trash blows right up next to the cab instead of blowing out.
The fuel economy test at Altmont Speedway, was performed at 45mph. That is the critical speed for things like windows up or down, and bed covers, to make a difference.
So the Mythbusters test was not necessarily how people drive. Too bad they didn't get track time at the test track for Honda or Hyndai. Which are located in the California City area. Those tracks allow full speed cruising.
I have the 2.7 and I love it!
When the yellow light is on for the auto start/stop that means it is bypassed so it will not shut off at stops. At least as for as i have seen. Cool video thanks for sharing.
Is there much turbo lag with the 2.7?
My experience with 4cyl with turbo is with a VW, and the turbo lag was very noticeable.
Once it got going it had plenty of power, but the lag was so annoying I would never own one.
The 5.3 to me is one of the best all around engines on the market. Has plenty of power for 99% of the people good torque for towing and awesome fuel economy. I had a 2015 crew 4x4 fully loaded with a 5.3 I averaged 19 with 85% in town driving and up to 23.8 on trips.
I get approx 17/21 city/hwy in my 2014 if I stay around 65-68mpg. If I jump on 130 for example ( fast road in TX and Nation that's posted ) my hwy mileage drops.
@@kfelix2934 I'm in fl but driving on interstates cruising between 75-80 I would get around 22 and chang and with 33.5 inch tall toyos it was about 18.3
until you lose the lifters and chew up your cam. I would take the 5.3 of course and do an AFM delete but if I had to stay stock I would consider the 2.7
@@joshuahedrick iv had the first yrs displacement on demand and a 2015 put well over 142,000 miles on my 2010 and 107,000 miles on my 2015 never had any issues. As long as you service the vehicle correctly and change oils at 35% oil life and not 0 they really don't have issues. I personally have done repairs to other 5.3s with lifter failures and as soon as you pull the valve covers you can see oil staining on lifters and heads from improper services.
@@fl_atv_riders4455 I appreciate your real world experience. I have put 3 4.8L smallblocks thru 400,000 miles each. The 4.8 never had AFM. My dealer is replacing lifters on the new trucks under warranty on the 2019+ trucks. They are litterally failing under warranty. Maybe the earlier ones were better but the new AFM sucks.
My wife drives a 2016 F150 with the 5.0, and I drive a 2022 F350 with the 7.3 gas. I have talked with tons of people that have the Eco Boost F150 and swear by it - those HP and torque numbers are impressive indeed. A lot of those Eco Boost folks that I know also are at around 20(ish) mpg when not towing, too. Not gonna lie, that sort of makes me jealous as my 7.3 isn't exactly great on gas (but that's not why I bought it, of course).
I personally stand by the NA V8, though, regardless of size. Aside from the folks I know that have loved their Eco Boosts, I do know folks who have had turbo intercooler issues around that 100k mile mark (not a ton, but especially folks who frequently tow in hot climates). For longevity purposes, I just simply trust the NA engine over the Turbo. Also, my rationale would be that they (being Ford in this case) put the big 7.3 V in the Super Duty... not a smaller engine that has a turbo... GM and Dodge also put the 6+L V8s in their Heavy Duty lines vs. the smaller engine + turbo route.
To each their own, of course, but I wouldn't touch the smaller engine + turbo for truck-stuff purposes. Maybe put something like that in a sports car, sure, but not a truck for me.
Nice vid. Between you and Big Truck Big RV, I have learned a ton about this stuff since getting into Camper culture with my family. It isn't exactly the cheapest hobby in the world, but it's better than drugs, right? Take care.
Great show!
Anyone know what the invoice price would be on a 5.3L LT? Company I work for gets them at invoice price, trying to see if I could afford it or if it's as much as a house even at invoice pricing.
Something people don't consider when choosing engine options is the amount of work an engine is doing. The 4 cylinder has half the cylinders so common sense is it should use half the gas, however that 4 cyl is working alot harder to move that 5,000lb truck compared to it's V8 counterpart. The fuel advantages of the 4cyl won't be evident unless except on long road trips where you are just maintaining your speed AND the cylinder deactivation has been disabled on the V8 (not as uncommon as you'd think). Outside of those parameters you won't see a noticeable difference in fuel economy. Especially with GM trucks, remember the pushrod V8 has been GMs bread and butter their entire existence from the small block Chevy, to the Gen III and IV LS engines to today. While other manufacturers switched to DOHC, GM continued developing and refining their Pushrod engines to the point where 6.2L V8 can match or exceed fuel economy of smaller displacement engines such as Ford's 4.6, and 5.0L engines. And despite using "old" technology still produce more power and torque
Look at how many farm tractors have have 4 cylinder turbo and work hard for 5 and 10000 hours with no problems
It's also performing twice the work as a 5.3, at half the RPM
Turbo... The turbo matters...it does produce hp....
@@thewireman134 GMs pushrod engines barely rev past 5k, 4cyl engines will easily rev past that running a load, every 4cy I've driven would shift right around 3-4k while in v8s I've driven you'd shift just under 2k. It will take more revs of a 4cyl, even a turbo one, to match an engine with twice the cylinders
Really? That's the thing people forget the most? Seems like it's the very first thing literally everyone thinks about.
I have the 2022 Silverado 4x4 with the four cyl. Turbo. I bought it December of ‘21, it has consistently given me 22 + mpg. I’ve checked (at fill up) the trip gauge many times and it is very accurate. As long as I don’t gun the engine and don’t exceed 72 mph the gas mileage is great. It is better around town or on country roads than on the interstate.
I tow a 3500 pound boat and it gets around 19 mpg and you don’t notice the boat behind the truck.
THe ‘22 Silverado has 310 horsepower, 430 f/p of torque, 9,000 pound towing capacity. I don’t know if it makes any difference than you test vehicle.
I have the '21 2.7, and my average is 20-21mpg. No regrets at all.
Worst case scenario, down the road if the 2.7 craps out, just buy a 5.3 from any other scrapped GM and run it. I know there will be some things that would be needed but it ain’t like it’s be rocket science to transplant that into a Silverado if you loved the truck but later hated the motor.
I've seen lies before but never have I seen a lie like this.
@@TheIronCalves Please explain…
Just bought the 5.3 RST 4wheel drive. My mileage is right in line with your test truck!!!
Jus bought the 2022 Chevy 1500 custom 2wd 2.7 L wondering if it’s normal for my trans gauge to stay at 195 and I’m not towing anything
I have a 2021 2.7 Silverado and I’m definitely loving it now with these high fuel cost!
I’m in Newengland and just got back from dropping off my 5,800 LB travel trailer camper ( truck towing capacity is 9,100 lbs) 65 miles from my home. While towing I averaged 13 mpg while driving 60-65 mph highway but on the way home I got an average of 29 mpg doing the same speed without towing the camper.
❤️ing the power when I need to tow but saving fuel when I’m not towing. 90% of my driving is commuting to and from work and about 10% of the time I’m either towing my boat, camper or utility trailer.
It suits my needs perfectly!
Sounds awesome; I'm towing a Travel Trailer 6,040Lbs includes trailer & payload/ passengers. I'm capturing 10.5-11.0 MPGs @ 63-65 MPH. I actually captured better MPG's through the Tennessee & Georgia Hills 11.8-12.5 MPGs; The low-end Torque is clever and helps with MPGs. I thought the new 2022 2.7L is now 425LBs Ft of torque but still has 310 HPs. I feel JB not driving the trucks long enough to truly capture real MPG's. Attached you find my own video on my truck From Key Largo, FL to Big Pine Key, FL my MPH were 45 to 55 and look at my MPG's . Not it was dead calm and conditions were perfect. I'm avg 32-34 MPH ruclips.net/video/bz7XAfx-CJI/видео.html
wow 29mpg? my wife has a ford escape titanium 2.0 turbo and she averages 26 mpg. Smaller engine, lighter vehicle. how is that possible?
Why not just by the Ford maverick?
@@michaeldiamond76 it’s not!
29? Total BS. Unless you only drive downhill
How many miles do you think the four-cylinder will last before you need any major repairs? I’m thinking about buying one but I don’t know about longevity. I’ve never owned a Chevy or a truck
I drove a 2009 Silverado 1500 5.3L V8 and it lasted me 270k miles.
I hope we can get to 150k to 200k with the 2.7L H/O
Turned in my Silverado with the 5.3 and got a new one with the 2.7. I tow a 19 foot bass boat around Michigan. I don't see any difference in performance with the 2.7. I get around 17 mpg towing the boat. We drove it to Florida last winter and got 21-23 mpg. I keep trying to get a buddy with a 5.3 to drag race me. Got a feeling the 2.7 would win. Keep the videos coming.
On the 2019 on the trip gauge it will show V4 or V8 in fuel management mode. You will hear it when the engine change cylinders being used.
We own a '21 Silverado with the 5.3. First, the L84 Ecotec engine in the current generation truck has nothing in common with the 1999-2006 5.3 LS engine that everyone loves, other than the displacement and cylinder count, which I feel misleads a lot of truck shoppers with prior GM experience into thinking they are getting a variant of that same reliable engine. It's a completely different engine and it's not reliable in the long run. Second, our particular truck fell in the manufacturing date range for the manufacturing defect in the DFM lifters and sure enough, they failed at 585 miles. Four check engine lights, four dealer visits, three rental cars, and 51 days later, they finally figured it out and replaced four of the 16 lifters. The idler pulley and serpentine belt also had to be replaced at 6300 miles because they started prematurely failing. Non-mechanically, the bed was misaligned and the front seats had to be removed to fix a non-functional rear HVAC duct. The transmission also slams into 2nd gear if you don't hold it in neutral for a few seconds between reverse and drive and it idles really rough when cold. I drive the truck exclusively in L7 (8-speed transmission) to disable DFM as it greatly improves drivability, and may help delay the inevitable second round of lifter failure. If I had to do it over again, and it had to be a GM product, I would either get the new high output version of the 2.7 I-4 turbo with 430 lbs./ft. of torque or more likely a 3/4 ton with the 6.6 gas V8. It has truly been a terrible ownership experience and I can't wait to get rid of it.
sorry to hear that, I had bad luck with my last two and went and bought a Ford in 2018 and couldn't be happier. I hope you get your situation situated.
Can’t go wrong with the 6.6 and 6 speed combo. Probably the most reliable GM combos right now.
Why would you buy another GM? Use your head not your heart
Look at range technology to disable it.
200.00 range technologies plug into obd. Shuts off AFM. Engine and trans should go 200 k with nothing but maintenance
Something you didn't seem to mention is that the 4 cylinder truck is lifted. This has a significant effect on fuel mileage. I lost about 1.5-2Mpg lifting my truck 2" and that truck is at least leveled.
It is a trail boss it comes from the factory lifted. It does not matter if its a 4 cylinder or the V-8.
@@tomfriend9530 while what your saying is obvious, it does matter in this comparison because it’s not apples to apples. A lift noticeably affects fuel mileage.
@@tomfriend9530 it matters. Have you ever looked at the charts those numbers differ from the different packages like trailboss and Ltz
@@tomfriend9530it’s not even a trail boss
Soo sounds like the “problem” was solved with the 5.3 what then was the reason for the 2.7?
Looking for a truck that will tow my boat with no problems any thoughts or opinions?
How much would it cost to replace turbos? From my experience they have never been cheap
My '06 Silverado w/ 5.3L (no AFM/DFM) gets 16.9 mpg with mixed driving and 21 mpg on trips all day long. Not much has progressed in all these years since then. That little 4 banger will never last as long as my 5.3 in the long run.
My 2008 VMAX 6.0 gets around 14mgs avg between city / hwy. It currently has 385,000 miles on it. I replaced the transmission at around 280,000 miles, but other than that the only thing I've had to replace on the truck is the brakes/ tires/ oil. Now, I cannot speak for any other Chevy truck owners, but for my initial investment of $10,000 for this 08 VMAX leather, nav, sunroof, rear cam, tow pkg, 20" premium wheels, ect... I've completely converted from a Japan (Honda/Toyota) car enthusiast to an American Patriot!!!
Also... I purchased the truck at 85k miles in 2013.
Isn't a V-Max a Yamaha?
are 22 2.7 crew cab chevy 4x4 does really good on fuel got 27mpg going around the lake and average 22mpg over all. It does really good on fuel economy, very happy with the 2.7
Have a 14 WT2 reg cab long bed 2WD with 149 000, 5.3. Started life as a tire service truck with Tommy lift. Bought it used 2 yrs ago. Put a Superchips tuner on it.
Using econo tune. And turned off the AFM. In town I get maybe 11-12 mpg. On highway I get 18 consistently. I've seen 21 twice when conditions were perfect. Even in econo mode it still merges great onto interstate speeds.
The auto stop start and DFM might not be on these 2022 trucks due to the chip shortage.
No loss there with the engine issues if the AFM experiences low oil and damages itself, burning oil from there on out.
Good point Matthew 👍🏾
@@vhateverlie agree 100% on the active fuel management. The dynamic fuel management seems to be less problematic? Either way, long term just let all 8 cylinders fire.
Super interesting. Do you notice GM transmissions holding revs for a second or so before upshifting in normal driving? If it wasn't my imagination I noticed it during a recent test drive of a Silverado HD 6.6 gas 6-speed.
I wonder if it was in tow/haul mode when it did that?
@@JB_WhoWork Hmm. Great point. I was focused on my overall impression and didn’t think about it during the test drive. It sold but I’ll definitely check tow/haul mode the next time I get the opportunity. Thanks
I had a 2014 Silverado with the 6 speed. It had a slipping between 2-3 gear that drove me crazy. GM’s fix was to update the TCM to hold each gear longer. Roughly about 200 rpm’s higher for each gear before upshifting. Drove me crazy. Before, it didn’t do that. Just that slipping feel between 2-3 that I’d have taken instead of the annoying gear holding.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Actually I think it was the 2 to 3 shift. That’s really interesting. You would think that with an older tried transmission the bugs would have been worked out of it. Maybe it was changed some to handle the larger more powerful 6.6?
You’re not crazy. It does have much more lag in normal mode and a higher lag time between response. If you switch to sport mode, it changes the throttle response significantly. You’ll get far less lag on the throttle in sport mode than in standard. I’ve driven a 2022 Sierra 1500 2.7L turbo across the country twice and vertically three times now. The whole responsiveness and shift band ranges change when in sport mode versus normal.
I can get the same mpg with my 06 Silverado LT-NO AFM! $11000,super comfortable,really clean,and NO problems like these new trucks have. Oh did I mention no payments on something that depreciates like a ROCK. No thanks-I’ll keep my old truck!
Good video dude too many people falling for the lie and the hype aren't they, I've got a 2018 GMC Savana 6.0 6-speed with 342 gears I made a camper out of it so there's a little bit of weight added to it highway speeds up to 80 mph getting 16.9 to 19.6 MPG have actually seen 21 one time through Texas and remember it's a van and it's a 3/4 ton
AFM active fuel management can usually be shown using the menu options that change the display in the center console. They are usually controlled with a button on the turn signal lever. Where yours shows trip 1 can be changed to show if the vehicle is running in 4 or 8 cylinder mode. You can feel the engine normally when it drops to 4 cylinder mode kind of like a Jake brake on a diesel.
Important to note that it depends on the type of transmission you have. The 5.3 6 speeds do not have this option.
Didnt GM get rid of AFM for 2023?
@@jimmace6148 I heard that too.
I think GM took that option of showing the number of cylinders firing away.
GM doesn't use AFM anymore, they use DFM. Look it up, it dynamically controls which cylinders fire, not just switching between 4 and 8.
I have the 2.7 turbo and I regularly get 23 - 24 mpg on the high way and my best was actually up to 26.9 mpg at one point so this video didn't give the turbo enough distance to get its best milage
What fuel do you use ??
Great Video...I noticed the Oil Temp gauge on the 2.7 was WAY Low, I'd Hate to see it that low if I owned this Truck.
If I choose to trade my 5.3 for the 2.7 do I have to hang a set of those rubber balls from my tow hitch like I see on some trucks? I mean, doing away with the 8 cylinder engine is kinda like castrating the truck..
I bought the first sport side 5.3 in 1999. Kept it until 2021. Never did a tune up until I was selling it last year and when I took the spark plugs out they looked like they had no ware on them. No oil deposits. Really hated to let to that body style go. Bought a 2013 LTZ crew cab 5.3 and loving it.
Yeah those early 5.3s were nearly indestructible. The cylinder deactivation/lifter failures on newer ones are a major bummer though.
sportside reg cabs were very cool
Tonneau covers don't really help with fuel economy. If it does, it's very negligible. Now since this vid showed that both engines are about the same fuel economy, I personally would take a naturally aspirated engine over a turbo engine any day.
I have a 2019 Silverado with the 4.3 V6. Very satisfied.
To me, I base my calculations on city. EPA is way off, since I've never gotten more than city MPG for my average drive! But, that v8 sound is just so good.
3.42 and 3.23 Gears? 4x4? I hope the Transmission and Transfer Case have some decent gearing otherwise off road these trucks won't do real well in any sort of moderate off road conditions. I'm also concerned about the 2.7 with the Turbo. Turbos have a tendency to be REALLY HARD on small motors and you start towing with that motor, your foot is going to be into the Turbo A LOT. It wouldn't surprise me if you were looking at Head Gaskets early on with the Turbo. I'd also suggest trying to sandwich the largest Transmission and Engine Oil Coolers into these things as space will allow. Turbos run HOT and the 8 speed Trans if it grenades is major money to replace. A suggestion would be to buy the LONGEST EXTENDED WARRANTY you can due anything that goes wrong with these vehicles is going to cost an arm and a leg to fix.
The chevy's come with a lifetime unlimited mileage powertrain warranty. So, as long as you do your services as recommended by chevy, it will be covered under that warranty.
the new 4cyl turbo makes a lot more tq than the one you tested. apparently makes a huge improvement and is faster than the 5.3
Until you melt those turbos. After three or four years it will cost you a fortune in repairs. Small turbo displacement engines in a big heavy truck equals long term disaster.
@@70DMac true. Especially with the direct injection engines- too much soot builds up around the intake valves and in the oil itself. Pre- oiling and cool- down oil pumps really would help the longevity of turbo bearings . Using low viscosity( 5-10 ) engine oils and 7-10 K oil change intervals doesn't help , either.
The turbo is better at high altitude, but when you use the power, you loose the MPGs..
The 5.3 is great if you get one without bad lifters..simpler usually beats complex in the long run..
Real world power number on the 4cyl turbo turd engine are actually less than the 5.3. Turbos don't belong on a gas engine
Where are you going to get low humidity in the northwest or the Midwest
I've got the 2.7 turbo a 2022 model and I don't regret it at all I love it when I stomp down on it the truck squats down and takes off it will turn the tires over also not use to that in a full size truck I also towe a 21ft trailer with farm implements on it no problem yes love it.
Nice review. I said in your post they would be the same and they basically were. You could even argue with the more stops you had with the 5.3 it would have been better.
A few observations about the two trucks. The Custom has the GM accessories 2” “Trail Boss” lift installed from that dealer. In factory Trail Boss trim trucks they get a slightly worse EPA fuel rating as compared to the non Trail Boss trucks. I’m not sure that it would truly matter much in the real world though.
Also that RST 5.3 was a non Z71 truck so that means it had a single speed transfer case. It also explains the more highway oriented tires. However the Custom truck would also just have a single speed transfer case so that’s kind of apples to apples.
My opinion as a Chevy guy is I wouldn’t buy either of those two trucks. I’m not interested in any small displacement turbo engine and after my experience with the DFM (dynamic fuel management) 5.3 in my 2021 1500 I’m done with those engines. Hopefully GM fixes the lifter issues they had that was pretty widespread for 2021 model trucks (three trucks were at my local dealer at the same time when mine had a lifter failure last September). If not for that issue though I’d take the 5.3 all day or really spend the extra $2000ish for a 6.2. But again I’m not touching one until I stop reading about lifter failures on Facebook specific groups for these trucks and also quit hearing my salesman tell me about another 5.3 coming back with failed lifters that he sold.
Great post, I never thought about the transfer case example. The 2.7L probably would have done better in stock form but my guess is it still would have been within .5 MPG and although I didn’t say it, I hyper miles the 4CYL just to prevent bias lol.
The trucks DFM did feel like it came on at some point in the video but I could be mistaken. Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork yeah I think it’s basically a wash. The 3.0 Duramax is the mileage king for sure.
I forgot to mention to that the DFM engines don’t tell you when the cylinder deactivations are happening. So there’s noway to know how many cylinders it’s running on. I reckon it can vary from 2-8.
Now the older AFM (active fuel management) 5.3 and 6.2 tells you when it’s in V4 or V8. They are much more reliable than the DFM in my opinion although the potential is still there.
Starting with the 2022 refresh though the AFM 5.3 is discontinued. However for the 2022 LTD it’s still available in the WT, Custom and Custom Trail Boss trucks. It’s also paired with a 6 speed auto. It would be the 1500 Silverado I’d buy if I had to buy one today (probably a Trail Boss although I do like the Custom look).
GM prolly has the worst gas engines on the market right now with a couple exceptions, the 5.3 engine and transmission are always losing lifters or breaking completely with 15k miles or less in my observation in a gm service department. I figure if all manufacturers gas trucks are junk you might as well buy a ram since it's the least expensive in my area by a good margin and tend to be more reliable, which I know it sounds crazy to say ram is more reliable on these newer year model trucks than gm but it is what it is now a days.
@@itisfinished4U the DFM 5.3 and 6.2 are terrible. Especially the 2021 model years. They claim they had a bad run of lifters that affected trucks built from 09/20-03/21 which was one month worth of 2020s and then 5 months worth of 2021s. But from what I’ve seen the 2019s have failures too but it doesn’t seem all that common with them. Can’t say that about the 2021s though. Like I said when mine went down on September 25, 2021 with 9400 miles my very small dealership in southwest Virginia had two other 2021 trucks with a lifter failure. Mine made three and they were all there at the dealer at the same time.
I got a 6.6 gas 2500 now. Based off its build specs it should be reliable. It’s built strong (forged crank, cast block, 6 bolt mains) and no cylinder deactivation of any kind. I guess we will see but so far I’ve not heard of any kind of widespread problems with them. There’s some that say they have an oil consumption problem but I think GMs TSB on it basically said it was normal. Not sure I’d agree with that statement but aside from that no major failures that’s been widespread.
@@matthewanderson9912 they are definitely horrible, the 6.6 gas seems to be pretty decent so far with the exception of plugs fouling for some reason that no one seems to know exactly why because there just aren't a lot of them out there
You need the lower gear ratio in order to have the low end power without kicking the turbo in every time you take off. As for the issues with things not working electronically that is a normal thing for so many of these new vehicles. Plus that 5.3 will still be running when the 2.7 is on the scrap heap.
I agree that 2.7 has nice to work and would be okay if you're just using it for a couple years and trading it off but if you plan on keeping it I'm definitely buying the V8 5.3 or 6.2 both are super reliable and about 2-3 MPG different
Great video folks ❤️ 👍
I had a 2017 4x4 Silverado and for the most part I loved it. It had a 4.3 V6 and for a general non pulling vehicle it was fantastic. I could average 22-25 MPG going down the highway at 70-75 MPH, 18 around the city. It was a dream to drive compared to my F150, but everyone I knew had lost at least one transmission in their Silverado. I think the 4.3 may not have had enough power to take the tranny out. I sold it at 171,000 miles and immediately missed it. Beyond the transmission failures on a majority of these trucks, one might not want to turn the ignition off while it's in 4WD. I did after pulling it up on the ramps to change the oil and $125 later the dealer said thank you after unlocking it from the permanent 4WD it was now in. If Chevy still sold these with the extended cab and a 4.3V6 I'd buy one over an F150 any day, but I'm not a fan of turbos and a 2.7 is pretty small. As long as the 5.3 doesn't have the cylinder management I think it's a good engine, otherwise it'll be more of a nightmare than owning the 2.7 turbo. Just my thoughts.
I kinda like that 4 banger , for fuel economy wise. However , i question the longevity and durability of this tiny engine . That 4 banger is always stressed due to turbos and heavy weight . I probably stay with v8 without cylinder deactivation.
But the deterioration of the motor from weight would be bettered by the 8 speed?
You gotta test out the new 2.7 4 banger... that thing pulls. I was so surprised by it I decided to go with it over the 5.3.
Fords being doing it for over a decade already with some success. I think they’ll be ok
I think the technology is absolutely proven... turbos last the life of the truck. I have a GM 4 cyl turbo car from 2006, GM already perfected the technology back then... runs perfectly... remember the Syclone? It was 30 years ago man! I doubt the 2.7 has issues.
@@fullsendornosend9910 gearing goes a long way to manage load. If you drive unloaded a lot, this engine will probably be hard to beat. If you tow heavy regularly, its probably not the best option. Just depends what you're doing with it. If all you pull is a open trailer with a couple lawn mowers or a small u-haul its probably fine.
My 2019 with the 6.2, 10 speed got 21.5 mpg's on a 250 mile trip running 70-75 mpg. It's all about that right foot.
6.2 in my opinion is only way to go.
That’s some great mileage there. It’s painful filling my truck up now, but sometimes I can go several weeks, if not a month, so it usually works out well. My Mercedes suv was 4-6 weeks since I wasn’t driving much and had a 24.5 gallon tank. Ya, it sucked putting in premium, but that tank sure would last me.
@@sokodad 6.2 or 3.0 duramax
Yeh, agree. I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L). The 6.2L is the only way to go with these 1/2 ton pickup trucks. The bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard to "make it go". However, as soon as you fuel it with 93-octane and plant your right foot to the floor and hear the tires vaporize...fuel mileage be dammed! The giddy-up with the 6.2L is unmatchable. I did NOT buy a 1/2 ton truck for fuel mileage...but, it is nice to get some when I am not acting like Dale Earnhardt Jr or Bo Duke (which is most of the time). 😆
How about running a 300 miles MPG test? Hand calculations at the pump?
Thanks for doing it at the speed limit.
Most RUclipsrs do this test at 80.
My buddy and I both had 2000 Pontiac Grand Am's. His was a 2.4 4 cyl and mine was a 3.4 V6. I always got better mileage than did he. I had a 30 mile one-way trip to work and he had a 20 mile trip. Now I'm not an engineer, but sometimes I play one on Facebook, haha, anyway I think that there comes a point that displacement matters to mileage and that a larger displacement for a X size/weight vehicle is the better option. I would go with the 5.3 anyway. It is a strong engine and the mileage difference is insignificant in my opinion. Great review JB!
Lol, I play engineer too 🤣🤣🤣! It’s interesting how it works but I think if you stay out of the turbo, you could get closer to the MPG on the sticker. Thanks Randy 👍🏾
The 2.7 is a surprisingly good engine we just got several 2022s in our work fleet no one knew about the 4 cylinder. Everyone who drove them was shocked by the power compared to the 4.3. They didn't believe me when I told them it was a 4 cylinder.
The 4.3 gets much better Hwy MPG’s tho
@@Mr.Beastforpresident impossible.
I love my 21 3.0L Turbo, best I have had is 34.4MPG, I was really feathering it. For average drives I never get less than 28/29MPG, and in town never less than 21/22. I have had either the 5.3 or 6.2 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab starting back in 2016 , and I will never go back to a gasser again.
That's cause you a bitch. These 4 bangers run good now cause they're new engines fresh out the lot.
Give a while and see what those engines can do.
My 01 Silverado 5.3 would tear these 4 bangers in durability, reliability and longevity. Fact!
These new trucks are shit.
Yes, I assume you're talking about the in-line 6 Duramax. I have the 2020. Can't believe it blows the 4 cylinder, in MPG's, out of the water. Even though diesel is weirdly costing more, 30mpg on highway is beautiful. I wouldn't try towing anything over 4000lbs, up to the mountains, in that 4 cylinder or any gasser. That engine probably would run 6000RPM's towing up steeper grades.
If the 4 cylinder spins twice as much with that turbo that makes it run like a V8. Cool video.
Great vid!
The bigger vehicle with a 4 cylinder just means you put more stress on the engine but when you have the v8 it powers the truck properly
Best option for fuel economy and towing in the 1500 would be the 3.0 Duramax. That 4 cylinder noise is the biggest turn off for me on this one.
I would tend to agree… In my case I have an LS swapped squarebody for when I want to haul ass and have that V8 sound . The 2.7t is perfect for all other situations. The 4 cylinder sound isn’t sexy but the turbo whistles are pretty cool
But diesel costs over $1 more per gallon than 87 octane. Kinda offsets the better fuel economy.
@@mowcowbell in most states, yeah. If I was in Cali I’d get the diesel
@@mowcowbell gas is $3.49 here where I live in NY diesel is $5.89
thank you great video
My best fuel economy has been 25.4 mpg in the 2.7L. This was around town in a suburb, with traffic being at minimum.
But both vehicles I can make the fuel economy to be poor. The turbo 4 as I like the noise it makes when you get on the gas pedal when the turbo spools up. As for the 8 cylinder, I like the growl it does when you accelerate. Accelerating aggressively on either will destroy fuel economy, but which is worse if you put the pedal to the floor