Viking Samurai and Kung Fu Genius discuss Bruce Lee and Vic Moore / Live with Audience Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023
- Viking Samurai and Kung Fu Genius discuss Vic Moore and Bruce Lee / Live with Audience Q&A.
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Greatest crossover since De Niro Meets Pacino on Heat
Such an amazing scene, love that movie!
@Viking Samurai That kungfu genius is anything but a genius. What an absolute idiot. I have better knowledge of Bruce Lee and Vic Moore than he does. Bruce Lee throwing fresh air punches at Moore is not real techniques anyway. The guy was a whole foot and a half away. The guy couldn't even get the year right when the speed drill took place, quoting a high school boxing match which fell well below amateur level is not proof that Bruce Lee could actually fight, if I said 5 years ago that Bruce Lee was a drug addict and that there were letters to support the claim by Lee's own hand I am sure I would get vilified, but guess what it turned out to be true. What Vic Moore says could be true: Is Moore trying to live off Lee's name? I doubt it, Bruce Lee was a smart guy, which was why he never even tried to be a fighter as he knew there was more money in movies than tournaments. Bruce Lee's demonstrations have gone wrong in the past such as when his punches were blocked in 64 by Kenneth Wong at the sun sing theatre, and Lee got angry and hit the guy. That event was the catalyst to the wong jak man fight and not any rascism bull crap that can be proven as lies with pictures from that time period of white people learning kungfu such as Al novak. I should add that there were many martial artists around in Bruce Lee's day that were superior to him and the notion that Bruce Lee didn't learn from other people like chuck norris is just comical, the guy trained with norris for a couple of years and wong ing sik noted Korean traits in Bruce Lee's kicking which clearly points to norris teaching him as he was a taekwondo and tang soo do expert. Jhoon rhee did teach Bruce Lee the side kick but did he really teach him extensively? I doubt it as Bruce Lee never identified him as his teacher, in fact he didn't recognise anyone as his teacher other than ip man and wong shung leung which is stupid as the guy had to learn.
@Viking Samurai Nice one, kungfu genuis showing his 5 and 10 year old children violent martial arts movies, is that a responsible parent? 🙄 What an absolute loser and irresponsible guy.
Like... Legit!
@@silverfoxsilverfox6932 dumb comment
Bruce the truth and was ahead of his time none of these guys was talking stuff when bruce was living.
@@theone-jm3gl you don't know who I know that knew bruce while he was living he train and taught the arts in Seattle he was know push over
Nobody in the fight community back then thought Bruce was a fighter.
@@cuzz63 depends on who you consider to be part of the fight community. Are Karate champions and Judo masters part of it? Gene Lebell, for one, said Bruce was a world class martial artist and that he needed to grapple him quick or else Bruce could have potentially beat KO'd him with hits so he certainly respected his striking, and this is from a guy who won one of the first MMA fights ever against a pro boxer
@@antonioridah172 lmao at your counter argument. Well you dont know who he knows either
@@cuzz63 Yeah, that's why best karatekas in the 60s wanted to train under Lee, right? LOL
Alex articulates himself so well, explains the time period dynamic perfectly. Always baffles me how people cant understand this.
He knows a lot of history regarding Kung Fu and just martial arts in general, and also about Hong Kong films and just the whole Chinese martial arts culture
This man is extremely logical and assertive. Outstanding interview!
I love how all these so called great fighters ,come out and talk down about Bruce Lee,long after Bruce has gone. Why didn't Vic ( the prick) Moore, publicly say all this when Bruce was alive. Well done Viking,and KFG. Another terrific podcast. All the best from Bonnie Scotland.
How do you know he didn't? No internet 60s 70s 80s and not much in 90s. Bruce Lee fanboys are so brainwashed and ignorant
Vic Moore being in the kumite with Prank Ducks is everything you need to know of how legit his stories are...
Take a hike troll
Haters gotta hate this troll is jealous
Hanshi Frank Dux
Jim Kelly said it the best🙌🙌
I took TKD and kickboxing when I was 16, I reached 2nd degree, I mimicked JCVD a lot. I still love his movies especially his early movies.
Another martial artist I love but doesn't get talked abo I t much is Philip Rhee, as also his brother Simon Rhee. They are masters in traditional TKD and Hapkido, they influenced me as well. Before my accident I was learning Kenpo.
I am a lifetime lover of martial arts
Legitimately my two favorite channels have finally come together!!! I absolutely loved this brothers!!! Viking... keep up the amazing work! You inspire!
Thank you for this my two favorite martial arts channels doing a live together! This needs to be a once a month segment!
Vic Moore is the poor mans version of Michael Jai White
Great interview between my two favourite martial arts channels.Hope you guys do another episode soon 👍
Probably my all-time favorite RUclips video ever. Thank you both!!! Love it!!! 💜💜💜
I would absolutely love to see you interview Chuck Norris. He’s the primary reason I studied Tang Soo Do, the style that began my lifelong martial arts journey. I was 14 when I earned a black belt in that style.
Alex Richter is awesome, as is his podcast. Makes total, logical sense. He had a couple of great conversations with John Little about Bruce that are a “must listen”. Thanks for this interview!
Had a tough day at work with my patients. Just finished weight lifting and kata. Listening to this show completes my evening.
Thanks VS 🙏
At 28:23 , a random fun fact about Cus D'Amato's Boxing Style... he studied Karate fighters and blended some of those principles into his Peek A Boo method. Both he and Mike have referenced this on numerous interviews back in the day.
I would like to see some proof for this.
@@mikeabbot4616 Type in the searchbox "Why Mike Tyson is a Karate Master", its a clip by Jesse Endkamp.
Never heard that. And there is nothing karate related in the peekaboo style. Just watch Floyd Patterson and tyson fight
@@oldironsides4107 There is some Karate principles in peek a boo. Just because you personally never heard that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Mike has talked in long form interviews about how Cus used to watch hours and hours of footage of Karate fighters, the way they sprinted in and out to "close the gap" and how they threw full body intent on each strike. You can still find a few of these video interviews floating around.
In regards to Floyd Patterson, he trained under Cus D'amato, so obviously Mike is gonna have similarities to Patterson.
I wouldnt underestimate any top martial ARTIST but wen youv seen bruce lee in action and other martial artists ENOUGH SAID PERIOD
Y'all are two of the best on you tube, great honesty. I'm in the old guy category at 71 yrs old . I learned what I could from a few martial arts . Met Chuck Norris once and trained with Leo Fong once at a seminar. Jeet Kune do is number one for defence , Chuck Norris,s style is very good, I like kenpo and the Chinese arts,wing Chun has it's merits, love any kind of judo. Great podcast. Much respect. Bruce Lee is the best IV ever seen in my opinion.
Literally two of my favorite martial art podcasts ever…I am looking forward to this. So glad u got KFG on this Viking Samurai…he definitely knows his Sh!t
Man!! I enjoyed this video .Could not wait for you two to do this again!!
Thank you both! Specially welcomed after Moore's interview. I enjoyed how you are respectful to your interviewees but try to balance the subject by getting a counter argument. Also, thanks KFG for his commentary on historical contex. We are as good an accomplished as we can within our own era.
I really didn't believe Vic's claims not just for lack of proof but the fact that his claims didn't ad up to what we could see in the only available recording.
Regarding Bruce Lee and A.I., they already did it with James Dean on a film so its just a matter of time.
There’s a great story about Jacky Chan and Bruce Lee. Jack Chan was a stunt man and Bruce Lee accidentally hit him in a take. Jacky Chan said that Bruce Lee was do professional that he kept up till “cut” was called and profusely apologized to Jack Chan. Jacky Chan was so star struck that he played up the injury so he can get Bruce Lee’s attention.
This video with The Viking Samurai and The Kung Fu Genius was way overdue! You both are RUclips gems and I believe I speak for the vast majority of followers when I say you both gotta do this more often. 🙏🔝
Its sad when bruce lee isn't alive to defend himself
I'm one of those fans that demolish naysayers with simple logic
I like how these so call sifus think they are at the same level as bruce lee. They spend all day doing youtube vids when do they actually train? Lol
This is great! Good to see you 2 had this discussion.
I'm not a Bruce Lee fanboy, but I admire what he was able to accomplish during his life in both the martial arts and in film. I see all of the attacks of Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter or I could have beaten him as jealousy. In terms of his ability, I look at the people who came to him for training and the backgrounds they had before training with him. The early students of Bruce Lee included Jesse Glover an excellent Judoka and James Demille a boxer. Later students included Joe Lewis Karateka, Dan Inosanto Kenpo and FMA, Richardo Bustillo Kajukenbo and boxing, Larry Hartsell Kenpo and Judo to name a few. Would these experienced martial artists have trained with him if he didn't have something to offer?
While Bruce Lee was human, he was a pioneer.
That's logical and obvious but people hardly bother to look things up to know the facts. Respect.
What a lot of Bruce Lee Cultists also seem to forget is that these fighters were also his friends and that as much as they trained under him, they also trained with him and exchanged ideas with him hence how he was able to formulate Jeet Kun Do in the first place.... Folks forget that Bruce was a Wing Chun guy, that was his martial arts style, Wing Chun doesn't have high kicks and does not have hook punches, jabs and uppercuts nor does it have many grapples either.... So where did Bruce learn all these other things if none of it is taught in Wing Chun? Surely while he was training with Chuck Norris, probably teaching him some Wing Chun stuff, Chuck Norris must have taught him how to do high kicks, surely when Bruce was training Gene Lebelle, Gene Lebelle taught Bruce some judo take downs and boxing since those were his background...again they were also his friends, why would they or Bruce want to fight and beat each other up, if they were friends? That just means that Bruce was a really terrible person to be friends with if he'd just end wanting to fight you and beat you up for clout... The cult of BL really tarnish his legacy by making him out to be such an assh*le
@@cyborgchicken3502 True, he loved to exchanged ideas with othe martial artisis especially if he could learn something in exchange. Although Lee actually trained high kicks way before he met Norris. There are b&w photos of him in Hong Kong during his trips in 63 and 65 when he kicked high. He also learned some nothern mantins and hung gar in HK before he went to States.
@@eduardoescoban7790 I can believe this because in the video footage of his first audition for Green Hornet, he performs a few animal forms too... So he clearly did know multiple Kung Fu forms besides Wing Chun
As for the learning and exchanging of ideas, he even wrote in the Tao of Jeet Kun Do that one must always be open to learning new things and take what they find useful and discard what is useless....if Bruce was just this know it all master who could beat anyone, then why would he have written that? I swear both the Bruce Lee cultists and the people that trash Bruce Lee don't use logic sometimes
@@cyborgchicken3502 well said. He even stated himself he was a student master, in a state of constant learning process.
This was a remarkable live stream! Great job Viking Samurai and Kung Fu Genius 💪👍👍✌️
Again, you are "THE MAN WHO CAN" when it comes to long form interviews. I follow Kung Fu genius as well. This was a really great interview choice.
Great, great livestream. It is rare an hour sneaks by me in a livestream like that! Can't wait for the next one! Peace to the Kung Fu Genius and Kudos to you Viking Samurai!
Thanks man, it was a lot of fun!
@@VikingSamurai Sure was! Thank YOU!
@@VikingSamurai You need to talk to Vic Moore and ask him what happened in the sparing match, I'd go through it in detail. You literally didn't ask many questions, when you start asking someone details the veracity of what their claiming either gets stronger or weaker.
Good set down with you two guys and I been watch KFG about two years and I'm very glad I came across this channel recently. I right down my lane with topics and content.
Keep Rock Viking Samurai 👊
This was so much fun!
Great to see you two guys together! Follow both of your channels and its always great to watch! In the beginning a fell from my chair because of laughing when Viking said a friend of his confused KFG with Beerdy Bruce Lee Central. 🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆
Very cool episode! Thank you for having my Si-Gung on your channel.
That was a really great video - hope there will be more Live videos with the Kung Fu Genius
Hope to see more of you together. It was just a pleasure ❤
Awesome video! I'm glad you got him on the show. Great stuff buddy. Great stuff. Let's talk soon
Vic was so fast he humiliated Bruce Lee and no one saw him do it. That's fast.
Great video!!! KFG is on point! Really enjoyed this conversation.👍👍👍
I honestly love these hypothetical questions between martial arts buddies... I'll chime in if I may. I trained with quite a few champions and good martial artists throughout my years of training but if I could train with one martial artist.. I would love to pick the brains of someone like GSP a true all rounder of the Martial arts.
Oss
Need more lives my dude 💯⚔ Great collab. You guys should do a weekly one off where you guys talk about old vs new martial arts movies and then fan questions at the end.
Moore has to prove that Chuck Norris wrote him a letter admitting he defeated Chuck.
I once asked Vic to show the letter, he claims he lost it ... True Story
@@universaltalentbookings1389 Just as his mind along with the letter.
@@eduardoescoban7790 FACTS ... This dude is even more delusional Than Frank Ducks .. No No. Its Dux , like put up your Dux . I drank the Dux Koolaid for well over twelve years. Until I found out through conversation with him , dude was making up stories with things I would tell him , and saying he did this and that , based off what I told him I did ... Frank Dux and Victor Moore are the Two Biggest con men in the History of Martial arts... Its funny all the Vic Moore fight footage , shows him getting his ass handed to him , on fights he claims he won . LOL>
@@universaltalentbookings1389 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So great, to see my favourite 2 Martial Arts channel guys together. Hope
Finally we have a guy that makes so much sense. Vic Moore would do anything for money. Dementia is real and he is definitely suffering from that.
@@veganhigler6541 I'm pointing out a fact, I'm not here to sugar coat it. Vic Moore is a liar.
@Vegan Higler I think you're crying. Don't be upset, you'll be ok.
@Vegan Higler I couldn't but that's only because you're lifting it. See that's your job at the end of the day. 🤣🤣
@Vegan Higler haha triggered, you're the one trying to be abusive and I'm supposed to be triggered. Dry your tears and do some research, I'm not your dad.
Dementia is indeed, a real thing.
Great segment Viking!
This Kung Fu Genius dude is hilarious!!!
I can't stop laughing at the way he's trouncing these clowns! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When i started Kickboxing in 92 with a 4th dan black belt heavy weight, first thing he said was, "I'm not going to teach you katas, I'm going to teach you how to fight"
Wow love the collab!
Great video as usual, love both u guys! Btw, VS.. Thanks for the tip on cordyceps, now im thinking im gonna turn into a zombie 😳🧟♂️🤣❤️💯‼️
This was brilliant 👍
Respect VS loved the podcast. Love the kung fu genius, please have him on again. 💞
Great Podcast. Excellent brother
Great live stream, nice to see you both able to get along and discuss this topic peacefully.
Excellent video ,
15:50 Bruce Lee was smarter than everyone else in the martial arts. The dude was like a real martial arts savant.😊
18:41 i’m almost certain I heard Linda Lee say that the person Bruce Lee portrayed on film was the way he was and the way he acted in real life
Wonderful!!!!!!!
Well you know back in the 60’s -70’s if there was a street fight someone always had an 8mm recorder on hand like they do today with cellphones. 🤣📽
Nice you two guys together!
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Great show guys, both cool blokes.
Beautifully put by Kung Fu Genius. Flexibility is discouraged but rigid is dogma.
I love listening to Bey Logan commentaries! Great stories! This was a lot of fun!
Make sure to check out my Bey Logan playlist, had some cool interview segments with him.
@@VikingSamurai I actually rewatch your Bey Logan videos often. I hope you get him back on in the future too. A bother wealth of knowledge!
Bruce Lee will forever be THE GODFOTHER of martial arts. That's why his name and memory will forever be remembered and spoken for many years to come.
Kung Fu Genius brought me here but Viking's attitude will keep me here. (new subscriber)
Awesome, thanks for being part of the brotherhood over here!
Exactly ....fighters are usually born.....not the skill , but the difference in mindset(best I can explain). That doesn't mean people can't get better, or defend themselves, but a actual fighter is just different. I've seen people that were very very skilled, but once the hits start landing ....they change into something else. I can't explain it, but it's not in everyone, and that is totally cool. This was a great video. 👍😁👍
I think Chuck Norris was actually one of the rare exceptions, to endure after film, with Walker Texas Ranger and even his health/fitness programming.
Great! Thank you guys!
Charles Bronsen 1:08:43 theres some forearms always wondered how much of an influrence fellow stars had an influence on Bruce Lee he must have been taken with some others like Clint Estwood as Way of the Dragon has so many influences from those early Spaghettie Westerns. Great interview you 2 need to do more of these.
Above the Law is a real classic and very well done with excellent subject matter for a martial art film , it's was a real spark to the Aikido Community as well as other martial arts. ⚖️⚔️⚖️
Thanks Viking that is pretty cool.
Great video .I had a wing Chun instructor named Duncan leung .he said Bruce had started taking wing Chun .but Bruce had trained just a little while and he said Bruce beat him they were teenagers so he started taking wing Chun
Thanks!
Thanks for the extra support!
Just 1!!!!
Bruce Lee Was Person who Start and Show Martial Arts to ALL Races not Only Chinese!!!!
Already posted twice here, again my praise for you two, was great to listen! I like to clean up some false claims which i saw in many comments here:
1) Chuck Norris teached Bruce Lee high kicks.
Thats definately not true! There exist footage of Lee in Longbeach 1964 when he performed one or two high kicks. The Green Hornet was filmed June 1966 to February 1967, and he did many high kicks as Kato in that show.
Lee and Norris met for the the first time after Green Hornet during the summer or fall of 1967. Lee mentioned Norris in his diary in January 1968 "Chuck Norris, Chi Sao".
The man who really teached Lee some high kicks first was still in Hong Kong, a Hung Gar stylist named Siu, Honsang(Hon-sang). That's cantonese chinese. In mandarin chinese his name is spelled Shao, Hansheng(Han-sheng).
And he later leared high kicks from Jhoon/Jhoongoo(Jhoon-goo) Rhee in the US, a Taekwondo master.
2) Gene LeBell introduced Bruce Lee to Judo.
No he didnt. The two met for the first time in the fall of 1966. Lee's first student in the USA was Jesse Raymond Glover, who was a Judo competitor, holding a brown or black belt during that time, and had won 1-2 tournaments. He teached him Judo. And around 1964 or so he met Hayward Nishioka, a Pan Am gold medalist in Judo. He teached Lee in Judo too.
And Lee learned Jiu Jitsu from Wally Jay also in the early 1960s before he met Gene LeBell.
I couldn’t agree with kung fu genius anymore. Bruce Lee did so many things then : angles, range, mixing, diet, that in the 60s were really unheard of. He was so ahead of his time. He’s adapt to todays mma if he was alive - no doubt, generations ahead of his time.
Joe Lewis was one of the forefathers of AMerican 🇺🇸 Kickboxing…and listen to what he says about Bruce and also what Benny the jet says
When people retroactive abilities boggles my mind. Time period is different. Like say willie mays can’t hit todays fastball…
I like Bolo as the magnolia warrior where he took on all challenges for money
in the early part of the movie
Five Fingers of Death aka King Boxer. 👊
Can you imagine Beerdy and Segall getting together on a pod cast. If anything they said was actually true there would be an uproar.
It was in 1967 at the Long Beach International Karate championship
Alex what’s up brother! Great interview! Really enjoying it! Great job guys!
Jim Kelly interview is great the man has no ego and he said it didn't matter to bruce whether you were lightweight middle weight or heavyweight no one could stand with bruce . I think alot of people bring up size because it's a big ego thing that a smaller man can't win but in some cases it's wrong.
And yet Jim makes several unverified claims about Bruce that dont fit any timelines.
@@cuzz63 But they aren’t absurd claims either. So they very easily could be true.
@@cuzz63 what claims? U have no proof
@@bertt1055 exactly
@@Garrett316 actually they were absurd.
Vic says that Bruce couldn’t touch him and he would tag Bruce at will. Then what happened during the demonstration that was filmed.
Total bullshido. They said vic.walked around scared and respectful of Lee as did all the Champs. Joe.lewis felt Lee's tap at not even full power and said no one.is beating this.dude and came to.learn from.him. and.dude was a.pt and.full.contact world champ..that.speaks volumes
Bravo!
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This was a great interview, and I like Kung Fu Genius. KFG made some good points, but unfortunately, there are not enough people who were alive at that time who could either supportor or refute Vic's claim, so even though KFG sounded like a convincing lawyer making "the burden of proof" argument and pointing out inconsistencies in Vics statements, none of us were actually there, so its hard to entirely refute Vic's claim. BTW, Steve "Mohammad" Saunders is one person who has been on soscial media and has also claimed to have witnessed this event and has substantiated Vics claim. I hope you can interview Steve Saunders while he is still alive and I hope you ask him about this.
Great interview and my Sifu mirrored what Sifu Alex said about Bruce Lee. When Lee went on to train with WSL, they apparently attended the Wing Chun get togethers to test their skills, which would still count as street fight imo. I believe also Bruce was for getting in to fights growing up, so all these detractors saying he has no fight record, simply do not understand the Kung Fu world in China and Hong Kong. At least that’s way I see it. It was a great interview and I am sad I missed the live stream. It was very refreshing to hear a Sifu on here Viking 👍 I think the Lee Foundation is all about commercialism with Bruce’s legacy to the martial arts and to me is still the GOAT, but venerate him as a martial artist, not a god like those Facebookers who have likely been to a couple of classes because it looks cool on a Facebook group. Keep up the excellent work and looking forward to the next one 😊
I’m a hybrid. 😂”I can dispatch any man in less than one second.” 🐉SON TSI 😂LMAO 😉💯💥
In those days,know one bloked Bruce lee,know one had Bruce's hand speed
Love your channel I respect that u keep Bruce Lee name alive in a positive light. Alot of these cats don't know the true essence of Martial arts they say Bruce Lee can't fight could fight etc John Jones one of the best said it best even when u prove yourself it's never enough. An he rt even if Bruce Lee did compete and won 20 straight fights they would say well he didn't fight such and such or so and so would beat him just like they do John Jones who never been defeated they still say he would lose to this person or that person me I focus on what Bruce Lee did for Martial arts period. Alot of people including myself became martial artist because of Bruce Lee not hundreds or thousands but millions have including Anderson Silver and many more top ufc fighters. Folks focus on who can beat who me I focus on martial arts as a way of life and that's what Bruce Lee wanted people to find the best version of themselves through Martial arts as a whole which is far more than just fighting sport combat is lovely but it's not everything. Learning how to protect yourself in a street situation is awesome and a must but Learning how to live life healthy is everything mind,body and soul 💯✊🏿💪🏾✌🏽
Bruce Lee's reputation will defend him and his fans will always defend him but Bruce Lee needs no defense nor is he asking for any. RIP Bruce 😔🙏
Why Bruce Lee is still so popular: "because we never saw him get old" D Inosanto - daaaang, there's a truth there
Without doubt Vic Moore had an interesting life and basically let’s himself down with all the fabrications, why can’t he just be proud he was a karate master and has a history with people like Mike stone, joe Lewis, Jim Kelly & Chuck Norris, it’s sad he’s got insecure issues….
Bruce Lee, was so fast that I could see him dominating in a point fighting tournament.
Mike Stone did say Bruce would have been tòo fast for the judges to score
Hi there viking samurai really well done for this special interview....don't forget that the grandmaster ip man refused to continue to train bruce..... Why do you think he refused to continue to train him..!? I tkink that this is very simple to understand why...!! Keep up the good work samu... 👏👍
I love Bruce Lee I am a super fan of Bruce Lee I believe he is a true martial artist but Benny the jet Ortiz is a true full contact fighter you truly can't say but I think Benny would win but I also believe it would be one heck of a fight
He said he exchanged, not beat. We really only know what the footage shows and the narrative we have been fed. I can't say it's true or false. Dude is not famous, so he doesn't have the influence to manipulate the narrative. He's also an older guy, and he taught so of course he may not be able to remember every details. I can't call it Viking, and it's great to see that the journalist in you keeps it that way. Respect Bruh.😌🙏😌😊
How can I get touch with you because i have few questions as a martial artist
Great interview once again. Hard to believe vic moore beat Bruce Lee. As you said no witnesses. And now vic Moore saying he didn't fight Frank duxs, and there proof from vic Moore saying he did fight him 10 years ago. Hard to believe. RIP BRUCE LEE. But I still respect vic Moore and Frank dux.
A martial arts film starring Viking Samurai and Kung Fu Genius? I will pay to watch that film.
Bruce lee will be remembered no matter what so all these coming out of the woodwork just to make cheap doller walk on an thankyou kfg for talking common sence as always. 😎
I find it funny that people dismiss someone, Bruce lee in this case, who dedicated most of his life to martial arts and fitness as someone who could be easily defeated or was overrated.
He had an aura of invincibility in his day it's not clear who had a realistic chance to beat him. That's not saying he was unbeatable but at the same time you have to be transparent and honest and clear and not beat around bush