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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • Benjamin Schwarz, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss the liberal meltdown over the Trump-Musk livestream, the global crackdown on ‘fake news’ and the beatification of Kamala Harris.
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Комментарии • 144

  • @Martin-88
    @Martin-88 25 дней назад +47

    Absolute drivel. The guy takes so long to form a sentence that I've forgotten the original subject by the end.

    • @jamesmp1015
      @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад +4

      😂😂😂yep

    • @monsieurlewop
      @monsieurlewop 24 дня назад +1

      That's the mark of a true intellectual!

    • @MB-st7be
      @MB-st7be 23 дня назад +1

      I've never heard so many 'ums' in 39 minutes

  • @mostevil1082
    @mostevil1082 25 дней назад +52

    What a creepy chap you've found.

  • @JacqLovesYou
    @JacqLovesYou 25 дней назад +44

    Not a great guest. An unusually dull episode.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад +1

      They didn’t push back on him once
      They have revealed themselves to be supine nodding dogs
      I almost spat my tea out when he said Kamala was likeable and the both of them just ageeed 😂🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @chadmastermorgan
    @chadmastermorgan 25 дней назад +38

    Guest is on here to give his opinions, immediately asks what hosts think, like he's in some kind of condensing uni lecturer 🙄 Then proceeds to wave his hands around with nonsensical, dull, word salad Trump Derangement Sydrome rhetoric 😣 Give us a break Spiked, you're better than this.

    • @marial8415
      @marial8415 25 дней назад

      @chadmastermorgan. Alarm bells the moment I heard he was from the Atlantic then thought well Spiked wouldn't bother with him and then he opened his mouth and the TDS spilled out. @moron from the Atlantic; maybe Trump & Musk are friendly and wanted to have a conversation on Musk's platform.

    • @Wakkawoo2
      @Wakkawoo2 24 дня назад +1

      100% agree. Very poor quality of guest for a podcast that I hold in high regard. Less hand-wringing soy boys please and more actual reporting on the reality on the ground.

  • @user-eu8oj1cw3b
    @user-eu8oj1cw3b 25 дней назад +18

    It's hard to dislike Harris!? How are people supposed to like her when she explains things to us like kinder children and laughs weirdly when she's in trouble? Doesn't make sense. Disappointed.

  • @stephendavies9029
    @stephendavies9029 25 дней назад +32

    " Orange Man Bad' is strong in this one.
    Not one of Spiked's best.

  • @markstrevett1284
    @markstrevett1284 25 дней назад +29

    I don't know what kind of writer Mr Schwartz is, but his manner of speaking is as annoying as these young people who say "like" every fourth word.

  • @tobyFOTS
    @tobyFOTS 25 дней назад +17

    Harris is far from likeable ...

  • @banedon8087
    @banedon8087 25 дней назад +28

    Over the last few videos from Spike, it seems that they have gone soft and also MSM.

    • @jamesmp1015
      @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад +2

      True

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      London based journalists mate
      They’re much closer to the metropolitan elite professional class than the “unpalatable” working class
      At times of crisis they reveal themselves
      Once it falls down they’ll be back pretending to be populist. They aren’t

  • @smpdevelopments
    @smpdevelopments 25 дней назад +18

    Jesus, never invite that guy on again, what utter drivel.

  • @deethy19
    @deethy19 25 дней назад +25

    It started out well, then he started talking…😂😂😂

  • @nickgood8166
    @nickgood8166 25 дней назад +17

    The American guy is incoherent.

  • @22448824
    @22448824 25 дней назад +15

    Well din Spiked for getting Kamala Harris' speech writer on as a guest.

  • @TwoOnions275
    @TwoOnions275 25 дней назад +22

    Why would Trump want a billion unmediated views of a conservation setting out his election position? It's a real head-scratcher...

    • @brendanariki
      @brendanariki 25 дней назад

      Lol "1 billion views..." You know that Elon just relabelled impressions to views right? Or do you really believe that approx 1/8 people on the planet watched that interview? Or 500 million watched it twice? That the entire population of America somehow watched it 1.5 times each, while only 10% of the USA population has a Shitter account?
      You are being lied to mate. Time to shake off the bullshit and see that the emperor has no clothes.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      @@brendanarikiRUclips counts a view as anything beyond clicking on it, the video starting basically is 1 view
      But I’ve never heard anyone qualify it when they talk about a video having so many views
      Plus, fairly obviously, it’s not one view per person

  • @JamesFitzgerald
    @JamesFitzgerald 25 дней назад +17

    These are two members of the elite class in the process of missing the point.
    The grotesque murder of three innocent young girls and the slashing of their teacher and classmates was the spark that lit the conflagration. The dry tinder consists of the resentment towards immigration from nations with incompatible cultures and the pandering of the elite class towards those groups. The murderer's parents are from one of those alien nations. Even though it was not true the savage killer was not an immigrant it doesn't really matter very much.
    The stupid analysis of the cause of the riots reveals the bias of the elite class.
    The people of the UK, and especially England, can't take it anymore.
    I think the game is over, the winners are just running up the score.
    If this were football, the score would be 20-0 the working class over the clueless self-satisfied elites.

    • @Claudia-es8jv
      @Claudia-es8jv 25 дней назад +7

      Very well said, I completely agree. The fact that it turned out there was ‘misinformation’ regarding the vile person who carried out these attacks does NOT take away any of the causes that people were protesting / rioting about.

    • @jamesmp1015
      @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад +2

      👍

    • @ChimpingBulldog
      @ChimpingBulldog 25 дней назад +1

      'Ello 'ello 'ello..

    • @pads-zr9ln
      @pads-zr9ln 24 дня назад +5

      I just happens it wasn't the usual suspects for terror, doesn't mean we've not had enough of the boat chancers, what was the Moroccan (Hartlepool attacker) fleeing from, it's where people go on holiday

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      Nailed it.
      It’s not about race or ethnicity. It’s a clash of cultures, it just so happens that one particular culture openly doesn’t want to integrate ANYWHERE they go.
      But the principle stands for anyone
      Including the Eastern European white guy who stabbed the woman and child, or the British born murderer of immigrants descending from a undeveloped country involved in a violent civil war; neither of them share our culture, our values or our love for Britain
      Thats the key thing here

  • @eriud9534
    @eriud9534 25 дней назад +42

    Tedious, boring, hot air, vacuous, smug and a bit pathetic - switching off after - 5:33 minutes. Bye

    • @sciencetypeperson2401
      @sciencetypeperson2401 25 дней назад +8

      3:55 for me 😂
      No idea who this guy is, but good lord he's insufferable

  • @MerckZ21
    @MerckZ21 25 дней назад +12

    Weak guest this week. Pity.
    He thinks Kamala Harris is likeable? Has he heard her speak?
    The Democrats' "weird" tag for Vance isn't clever, it's puerile and hypocritical.

    • @michelleb3698
      @michelleb3698 25 дней назад +3

      Yes, but she’s doing her best to avoid speaking. They’re banking on PR/hype to get her through, and it might.
      I think he has a point about the potential for Trump to screw up at debate if he gets personal. It worked with Hilary C because she’d been in the spotlight for years & has a toxic reputation. Harris is ditzy and shallow, but she hasn’t had enough exposure for that be a defining characteristic.

    • @ChimpingBulldog
      @ChimpingBulldog 25 дней назад +4

      Watching them slapping each other on the back for coming up with 'weird' is.. weird.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад +1

      They agreed with him!
      No pushback
      They’ll be calling unlikeable and ditsy again next week
      Fakers

  • @lalaholland5929
    @lalaholland5929 25 дней назад +15

    AS soon as revealed from "The Atlantic" it was very clear what sort of nonsense was coming - not withstanding that those two "events" were cited as causes.

  • @ravenhill-the-hospitaller-1968
    @ravenhill-the-hospitaller-1968 25 дней назад +15

    i really hope Trump gets in in november.

    • @yvy6269
      @yvy6269 25 дней назад +4

      @@ravenhill-the-hospitaller-1968 if he does, the meltdowns will be next level! 🤣🤣

    • @jamesmp1015
      @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад +1

  • @BuffaloSoldier1965.
    @BuffaloSoldier1965. 25 дней назад +8

    THIS was "weird".

  • @rcordiner
    @rcordiner 25 дней назад +6

    I used to actually appreciate the fact that you guys, to some extent sat on the fence scared of getting your ball bags scratched by barbed wire, but this week you've just keeled right over in to a tank of pig slurry and started doing the backstroke!

  • @saffyjanes8875
    @saffyjanes8875 25 дней назад +7

    He is not great. At all.

  • @declancarroll1799
    @declancarroll1799 25 дней назад +32

    Your Trump bashing lost me. Very poor podcast .

    • @Imcm89
      @Imcm89 25 дней назад +7

      100%

    • @JckSwan
      @JckSwan 25 дней назад

      The Atlantic is hugely anti-Trump.

    • @ph8077
      @ph8077 25 дней назад

      Trump is a pretty obnoxious human being...but he's still the best candidate from a very bad bunch!

    • @Woodzta
      @Woodzta 25 дней назад +3

      Though you'll be sitting here cheering them on if it was Harris or Biden. I respect that Spiked haven't sold out to audience capture and continue to criticize what they see fit. I'm sure you'll be back next time in the hopes you get your own opinions repeated back to you.

    • @MrGenedancingmachine
      @MrGenedancingmachine 25 дней назад +2

      @@Woodzta This fake high minded philosophy you're trying to spout here would only make sense, if both candidates with equally good or equally poor but they're not, to the average spiked viewer, who believes in free speech for example, one is obviously good and the other is obviously bad and you can go right down the line and compare policies and there's definitely a distinction, broadly, of who's for the people and who's for MORE govt.
      Also, the commenters here are reacting to that OTHER genre of Trump bashing, as opposed to crazy liberal chicks having screaming meltdowns in their cars and posting them to tiktok, this is the snooty London "Above it all" safely across the pond Trump bashing, which to me, shows that if even though they're (spiked) opposed to most of the left wing journalists (Their counterparts) in the UK, they still crave their respect and wouldn't be caught dead wearing last years trainers (outwardly supporting Trump)

  • @flyingsunbeds909
    @flyingsunbeds909 25 дней назад +31

    Second podcast in a row from Spiked that has left me asking where you guys are going...

    • @whylie74
      @whylie74 25 дней назад +6

      left, always to the left and possibly down the drain.

    • @lalaholland5929
      @lalaholland5929 25 дней назад

      ​@@whylie74very far down the drain.
      No hope on the walls.

    • @jamesmp1015
      @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад

      👍

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      London based journalists it’s not a surprise they hate the working class deep down too
      Look at these three guys ffs, they ARE the professional class

  • @gravitaslost
    @gravitaslost 25 дней назад +6

    Lol. He so wants to believe that Trump stands no chance of winning. Jesus, even Tom is claiming it to be unlikely now, sounded like he was going to say 'unlikely or not' but pulled himself up short on account of his guests sensibilities, extremely weak.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      It was one of the most supine and spineless podcasts I’ve ever watched and that’s saying something considering Spikes last two have been almost as bad

  • @yvy6269
    @yvy6269 25 дней назад +10

    5:33 Funny how suddenly it's "perjorative" to refer to liberal elites, etc., as if Spiked journalists don't do this all the time. Boring asf because they're sucking up to the guest instead of discussing the issues in a frank manner.

    • @ChimpingBulldog
      @ChimpingBulldog 25 дней назад +1

      A bit of 'narrative whiplash'.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      Spineless London journalists secretly favour elites than working classes
      Paint me shocked 😮

  • @noneofyourbiz112
    @noneofyourbiz112 25 дней назад +7

    The gentleman needs to learn to speak complete sentences without "uhm uhm uhm", "uh uh uh" and continuous stuttering that makes nails on a chalkboard sound articulate and pleasant.

    • @ChimpingBulldog
      @ChimpingBulldog 25 дней назад

      He should run as a candidate for the Democrats.

  • @Imcm89
    @Imcm89 25 дней назад +32

    I thought it was extremely likely Trump will get back in the white house

    • @brendanariki
      @brendanariki 25 дней назад

      Lol. No. Trump is going to lose again, and Elon is still a lying POS. They deserve each other really. Two peas in a bullshit pod.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      @@brendanarikisalty Brendan

    • @manofculture584
      @manofculture584 24 дня назад

      Trump is very unpopular, more than you think

    • @jacquelinedesanctis7082
      @jacquelinedesanctis7082 24 дня назад

      ​@@manofculture584So unpopular that they tried to assassinate him cos he just is not simpatico enough and might go vulgar on the Whitehouse furnishings. Gosh come to think of it Kennedy was unpopular too as was John Lennon and Martin Luther King. Of course I would not be as vulgar as Trump ...and infer that those who get assassinated are the greatest ..that would be just too MAGA which of course is insufferable
      Nobody wants the US to be great..the world wants an end to US world dominance bit then I am a mere Italian who plays mandolins.

    • @coolhand1966
      @coolhand1966 23 дня назад

      @@manofculture584 not according to the polls.

  • @BaiHuJ
    @BaiHuJ 24 дня назад +2

    Harris is likeable? Speak for yourself, bruh. Nikki Haley was far better than her in all outward respects and Trump still beat her without resorting to "misogynistic" attacks

  • @MrMeldarionx
    @MrMeldarionx 25 дней назад +6

    Zzzz this guy is boring.

  • @StonefieldJim4
    @StonefieldJim4 25 дней назад +3

    Schwarz's speaking skills are so poor it's difficult to make any sense of the noises falling out of his cakehole. The contrast with Slater is dramatic: Tom is clear, articulate and engaging. I gave up after 10 minutes.

    • @cwgmusicvideos
      @cwgmusicvideos 24 дня назад

      You saved yourself 28 mins of absolute tripe and two guys agreeing with everything they ridicule most weeks

  • @mikehunt.1609
    @mikehunt.1609 24 дня назад +1

    The thing about the misinformation erroneously naming the Southport suspect is that it was such a blatant lie,so whoever was responsible for it didn't really care about being exposed and had no fear of being punished, could one conclude that this was then perpetrated by a foreign agency?

  • @toshiyaar7885
    @toshiyaar7885 24 дня назад +1

    The American guy is completely detached from reality

  • @rcordiner
    @rcordiner 25 дней назад +4

    Is that guy a Robert Crumb sketch?

  • @rickbear7249
    @rickbear7249 25 дней назад +3

    Government can't permit Free Speech - it might lead to Free Thinking - with people not conforming to government's officially-approved Group-Think.

  • @paulyoung3504
    @paulyoung3504 24 дня назад +3

    At 11:47 I decided to switch off because I was losing the will to live. This guest is so tedious. "Eh, urmmm, ah, errr," ...The weirdo can't even form a sentence. SPIKE...RAISE YOUR GAME.

  • @involuntarilychad4048
    @involuntarilychad4048 25 дней назад +3

    This guy is a worse speaker than Fresh Prince CEO.

  • @fmoralesable
    @fmoralesable 25 дней назад +3

    Does this guy knows how to speak??

  • @rrgreen11
    @rrgreen11 25 дней назад +2

    The guest cannot talk properly. Please do not invite again

  • @rcordiner
    @rcordiner 25 дней назад +2

    The Met might wanna check this dudes hard drives before he leaves the UK!

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 25 дней назад +1

    Don't disrespect the towering intellect of Kamala Harris. She has the qualification of not only being a woman but being both Indian and African. What other qualifications do you need to be Vice President or President of the United States?

    • @ChimpingBulldog
      @ChimpingBulldog 25 дней назад +1

      She is unburdened by unnecessary qualifications.

  • @grantbell7504
    @grantbell7504 24 дня назад +2

    I don't know if this guy has a cognitive processing issue and for that reason his sentences really get bogged down while he's trying to find the words or he's just a poor speaker. It seems he may be a much better writer (from what his co-hosts have said) and so maybe should stick to that. I'm afraid it takes a lot of perseverance on the part of the listener to deal with his many filler words.

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas 25 дней назад +1

    No matter who wins in US the supporters of the other will believe the winner is not legitimate. In Harris’ case they will be right. At least Trump has been a POTUS before.
    As to international view, Trump is not disliked at all by 20 countries I know.

  • @davewatkin
    @davewatkin 24 дня назад +2

    Terrible guest… painful to listen to. Eermmm, aaahhhh,,, aaaah… eeerrrmmm - every few seconds. Takes 10 minutes to get a few sentences out! Surely you can find better people than this, Spiked. You guys are great orators, you need guests who are equally as good if you don’t want people switching off… I’ve given up less than half way through.

  • @rymic72
    @rymic72 22 дня назад +1

    Unwatchable this week unfortunately. The guest is in favour of candidates who will continue to trample upon individual rights

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk 23 дня назад +1

    37:18 he says “this is out of ignorance”… wait how can a journalist be so ill informed ?

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk 23 дня назад +2

    33:50 How is Kamala calling Vance Weird not mean. You just said she seems so nice.

  • @freedomsuk
    @freedomsuk 25 дней назад +7

    Ouch! I think you dropped the ball on this one. He is not a good communicator. "Um, errr, aah, like, um, err, like, err, y'know, like." I have to agree with many of the comments here questioning a shift towards the MSM rhetoric. Disappointing 😢

  • @marsspacex6065
    @marsspacex6065 25 дней назад +1

    Elon is the greatest entrepreneur ever just for what he has done in space.

  • @pads-zr9ln
    @pads-zr9ln 25 дней назад +1

    I heard nothing about hartlepool, camt imagine why

  • @carltaylor6452
    @carltaylor6452 24 дня назад +1

    I made it to 16', and I was trying very hard.

  • @jamesmp1015
    @jamesmp1015 25 дней назад +1

    Erm erm erm - this guy is difficult to listen to

  • @eddiej6195
    @eddiej6195 24 дня назад +2

    I made it to twelve minutes.

    • @halley4032
      @halley4032 23 дня назад

      Beat you, I managed 7 minutes !!

  • @Joe_le-
    @Joe_le- 25 дней назад +3

    Tosh

  • @W5nmwh50
    @W5nmwh50 25 дней назад

    We still do not know the motivation for the Southport attacks. How could this be over looked??

  • @coolhand1966
    @coolhand1966 23 дня назад

    Am I watching Times Radio?

  • @scottanderson3967
    @scottanderson3967 25 дней назад +1

    Lilliput comes to mind

  • @youtubehatesus2651
    @youtubehatesus2651 25 дней назад

    you guys are always level-headed. Sane. Thank you.