CPF presents: No Budget Filmmaking 101-Making "Me and My Shadow"
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- You want to make your own movie, but the cat won't get off your pile of money! What can you do? Learn how not to need money, that's what!
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One of my favourite RUclipsrs giving quite likely well needed advice. Love the content you make sir!
I appreciate this video, I learned a lot, look forward to the next update
Banger video as usual
I still remember watching the ozone commandos bts tacked onto one of the CPF tapes. You're still an interesting and engaging explainer~
I agree. CPF behind the scenes documentaries are always just as entertaining as the actual features.
I know you consider me annoying or a troll but to me you are a god of filmmaking and im not kidding.
I'm barely a filmmaker at all. This will be the first thing I've done that really qualifies. It's one thing to respect someone, but I'm firmly against reverence for ANYBODY, especially me.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks well we'll have to disagree. Your writing and narration are legendary as are your delivery and so forth. its not just the filmmaking but the performing. anyway, i dont have a shrine up it's just respect for good content x)
@@patrickhamos2987 "Legendary?" Who exactly is telling these legends?
Also, my voice sucks as a narrator. Never have liked it. Stephen Fry...Morgan Freeman...now THOSE are narrators.
Maybe Patrick is an atheist? I love your voice, has just the right amount of edge and humor and the guy that may have been in same 7th grade class as you, but you knew he knew much more, and delivered just enough with a nod and a wink. I bet you could make a vid on grilled cheese sandwich making that would be enthralling
If he's an atheist, why would he be referring to anyone or anything as a god? I'M an atheist, and I really don't get the notion of worship. Respect, sure, if it's earned, but revering something makes no sense to me.
Thank you
Your perspective & videos are bastions of clarity in an ever increasingly inane world. Thank you. Keep 'em coming man. Also, as a side note, there is the cool synchronicity that as you filmed this and as I watched it, we are both wearing the same shirt...
California Uber Alles! (Actually, I think I'd be okay with that about now, minus the wildfires.)
I need to watch Men in Black
I assume you mean the real movie...no one probably needs to see ours. It was never finished and isn't online, anyway.
Helpful advice, and entertaining delivery. Thanks!
You guys still exist? Awesome. Thanks for making so much Harlock info available.
Well, we definitely still exist, though I'm really the only one still making videos.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I had just somehow assumed the modern age of media would have made you so jaded as to cease all video releases.
I do what I do for my own entertainment. What anyone else does or thinks has always been irrelevant.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks You fight for your own flag? Maybe it has a skull on it?
There is a less obvious and more nefarious reason why so many of these multimillion-dollar blockbusters invariably jump directly to "do it on the computer" as their preferred solution rather than something far more pragmatic: unlike all of those people tasked with handling props, wardrobe, hair, lighting etc. the individuals employed for VFX have no union or guild representation whatsoever. They're one of the only key components of the Hollywood movie industry to not have such representation, and so the megacorps calling the shots would much rather approve the expenditure of far more money to utilize disposable labor in post-production than approve a budget calling for more union labor and principal shooting time devoted to set or makeup preparation. On the bright side, none of this would ever be a concern for no budget filmmaking anyway.
That may be the case, though it doesn't explain cases such as the 2011 prequel to The Thing, where they created practical effects (which looked amazingly good) in the fashion of the original, and then the studio swept in and decided they needed to be replaced in post by CG effects. They effectively paid for the same effects twice, and the end result was that the audience for the film roundly derided the effects work, which was as predictable as the sunrise for anyone who had even a passing familiarity with horror fans.
There's plenty of arguments, some good and some bad, for unionization in industries such as the film industry, but too often it also contributes to having to hire more people than are actually needed to make the film for purely regulatory reasons, which drives up the cost. At one time a director couldn't edit or operate the camera on his own film...thankfully, that's changing more and more.
Another great video man. Came here for the Twin Peaks videos, have stuck around for anything else, and given my passion for filmmaking and particularly DIY filmmaking, this was super interesting. I think people tend to get caught up in how valid independent/amateur filmmaking is based on budget/exposure. Like, I saw your comment here saying "I'm barely a filmmaker at all" and I completely get where you're coming from there. But like a pretty good filmmaker once said "go make a film, call yourself a director in the credits, now you're a director." Regardless of what happens to a film after you've made it, the majority of films are hard to make, creating something from nothing is a wonderful thing, and every one is an achievement/learning experience in some way. Good luck with your film!
Regarding that comment, I'd just say to look at the context. I've never been the type to have heroes, but if I did, they wouldn't be amateurs. I study the works of real directors, good directors, not people on RUclips.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Gotcha. I misread that as the crippling self doubt that affects most creative types haha. Fair enough.
Self-doubt doesn't have to be a bad thing, either. The first thing we ever made was an overdub parody of Star Blazers which gathered a fair amount of popularity amongst its fans at the time. We got too self-confident and the next thing we made was really terrible, as we'd been conditioned to think that apparently any fool thing that dribbled out of our mouths must be hilarious. There's nothing quite like a public screening of your work, allegedly a comedy, to a dead silent audience. We came away from that thinking, "Hmm...maybe we should work a bit harder next time."
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks yeah, there's gotta be a balance, and you're never done learning.
I saw a relatively recent interview with Brian De Palma about how he still loves to go to festivals to see new films, saying "I never stop being a student."
Darn! I was going to start shooting my debut feature next week and it’s full of snow and moustaches.
Please tell me it's called Snowstache! (With the exclamation mark as part of the title, naturally.)
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Snowstache! Sounds like a movie about a guy with a white moustache who secretly stashes stuff in snow. But what does Snowstache stash? Who is he hiding it from?
This premise has potential.
Actually maybe it would be best to keep the fact that Snowstache stashes stuff in snow secret until the sequel just so you can use the title Snowstache 2: Snowstash!
Better yet, just don't make the first movie skip straight to Snowstache 2: Snowstash.
...or maybe Snowstache is just a raging coke addict...
I know Men in Black was never finished, but I always hold out hope that someday it'll appear online, if for no other reason than it's the only work in the CPF oeuvre (besides the X-23 films) that I have yet to see, and, what can I say, it looks pretty cool.
It was a great learning experience, but I can't say it was really great as a film. It started off as a conspiracy thriller and by the last iteration, it had evolved into a deconstructionist critique of conspiracy theorists, as I increasingly realized I hated those people and didn't want to give even symbolic support to a bunch of raging apopheniacs who think they're the smart ones.
You deserve all the subs on youtube.
Nice use of bits from Holst's "The Planets" in a couple of spots. Nice reference to "this is not a Twin Peaks vid" and then tossing a few tidbits to keep the savages at bay. I come away from all your vids with a smile and thankful you make these gems with wit, barbs, unvarnished viewpoints, insight galore and great special effects ;)
The mustache does sort of slide around on my face a bit, but then, I only spent about half an hour on it.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I have a full real beard, and as I've headed into geezerdom, it slides around too.
this was a great video, and thank you as always for sharing your insight. out of curiosity, could i show this to my students? i’m teaching a college-level basic video course and this is a great illustration of how far creativity and effort can go when budget is a concern. thank you for making this, and best of luck with the film!
Go right ahead...I dare say that being seen is why a video exists, or at least why it's made public.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Well said, and much appreciated :) Thank you!
It was basically a giant troll to show loyalty to Snyder. WB couldn’t make him since this extensive reshoot wasn’t in his contract. Since his mustache was contractually mandated to mission impossible, he could just ask them to enforce the clause and WB couldn’t do anything. Love your movies and looking forward to the new one
That may well be, but the point was that the MI team instantly thought "CGI mustache" instead of "cheap-ass appliance."
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Thats what I’m saying, they didn’t. I firmly believe Cavil wanted to sabotage the reshoots, so he got them to tell WB he wasn’t allowed to shave. When they claimed that modern cameras show the lace that’s when they gave up the game. They knew that sounded good to the laymen, when anyone making movies knows it’s way easier to paint out some lace than a mustache, and had they been negotiating in good faith would have just demanded the cost of the appliance and the VFX, plus something for their trouble. You and I know it’s BS, you just didn’t take into account the politics as a factor.
Given I can't prove it, I wouldn't take it into account. I really only care about facts...there's been crazy amounts of speculation on that film as it is, including utter nonsense such as claiming either WB or Joss Whedon or both deliberately wanted the film to tank, which is absurd and benefits no one. The underlying idea, that Hollywood overspends on everything, is basically borne out across the industry as a whole. I recently heard that Hans Zimmer gets paid $50,000 a minute for music. There's not a person alive who's so damned talented that they actually deserve that.
Video copilot is good too.
Never give up on making films.
Well, it would be silly to give up now, with about 95% of the shooting completed.
Don't mess around with that golden orb dude! It needs to go into 1945 and wait around for a few decades and then save the world... or end it. Unsure yet
The 'Stache that ruined the Justice League
Well, it contributed to the problems. It certainly wasn't the only one.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Did you see the Snyder Cut?
Three times. I own it now.
Have you checked out Dynamo Dream yet? It was all made by one guy with Blender
I've not, though I applaud anyone who can make sense of that bloody program. It doesn't appear to have been designed with humans in mind.
I love your work, if you ever need sfx help just ask. No charge, I like your stuff.
At this point, the effects work is very nearly done, so I may as well press on and retain the cache of being able to say that I did all the post-production work myself. Besides, when you have no recourse but to figure it out on your own, you learn more.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks That's cool. In the future if you need any help feel free to ask.
I have no use for this advice but i enjoyed the video regardless.
LIES! The last MIB footage was when you had me meet you at AWA and my slacks did not fit!
Technically true, but that was the last of my many attempts to try and save the film after the shoot shown herein killed the film we had initially written. I continued to tinker with it a lot afterwards, but the film we had intended to make collapsed that day.
cpf is my dad
But I don't have any kids.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks He said the *channel* is his dad. So he's some sort of Videodrome creature, I guess.
meanwhile an ENG camera alone costs like 30 grand
Why do you care so much? If paying those actors gets more butts in seats, then we, the viewers, are the problem. Like it or hate it, it makes a lot of sense. But again, why are you are so emotional about how those movies are made? Don’t stress yourself. You don’t have to watch those movies. They can exist along side cheap indie movies. It’s not a binary choice (p.s. inland empire was the worst looking Lynch film IMO, same applies to soderbergh’s iPhone movies)
I'm not emotional at all about how they're made. I just think it's silly to pay anybody such ludicrous amounts for playing make-believe. I'm giving advice on how a movie can be made for cheap, when all we hear is about how difficult and expensive they are. I'm not saying people shouldn't watch big movies. I watch tons of them myself. I think you've fundamentally misread my entire point.
I think the opening remarks are more aimed at identifying that there are costs in film making that don't often have a 1:1 relationship with work put into the making of the film, and that is the setup to then explain people shouldn't get bogged down in thinking they need such things to make movies themselves.
Thank you. That's exactly correct.