Big 12 Insiders | From worst to first - ranking Big 12 football's head coaches
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Big 12 Insiders is a streaming show hosted by former Kansas State football player Brien "Big B" Hanley. It covers everything related to and affecting the new 16-school Big 12 Conference. In today's edition, Big B and 247Sports site publisher Tim Fitzgerald rank all 16 of the New 12's head coaches from 16 up to No. 1.
The Big 12 Insiders airs Tuesday through Thursday during the summer at 1 p.m. (Central) on the GoPowercat RUclips channel and the new Big 12 Insiders channel.
Fritz I'd move down a bit. Some recency bias there.
Fritz spent 7 years at Tulane and won 8 or more games only two times.
I'd also move Dykes down a bit(and I played for his Dad!!) but his time at Cal wasn't great then last year was really down.
Agree with that top 4.
So tough to do these rankings with 16 teams and in a conference with so much net change.
Lance is not “just happy to be there”. Absolutely not. He got a standing ovation as he walked into a resturaunt following a close loss to OU in year one. He turned to his wife and said, “We gotta change this. Losing close is not okay.” He said day one that he came to win championships. He knows what that is too because he’s 6 though dismissed because it was D3. In some ways similar to CK.
Something else that i think is overlooked about Coach Leipold is that he took the winless roster he inherited in year one and has beaten the over every year without the massive house cleaning undertaken at other schools. He’s done some portalling, but mostly just coached better.
One of you said it right, any of the coaches could be picked in most any order depending on the preferred criteria, and maybe the results of the most recent season.
It will be interesting to see how the imbalanced schedules play out and the influence on the narratives.
Utah tears come pouring in 😅
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Gus Malzahn inherited a team that was 0-8 in SEC West in 2012, next year Auburn plays in National Championship game. Name one Big 12 coach that could have done that. Gus was 3-4 against Nick Saban. Auburn won National Championship in 2010 with Gus as OC. Big 12 is loaded with great coaches. Has any Big 12 coached accomplished what Gus Malzahn has accomplished?
TCU fans are so delusional. Just like at SMU Dykes does well with his predecessors players then steadily drops off.
It seems that common sense would say that TCU fans should rightfully brag about beating Michigan but never mention the natty.
Malzahn should be above McGuire and Fritz as he has power conference success on his resume. When all three still need to prove it where they are, the resume wins out.
Malzahn is a tough one. He was everyone's coach of the year back in 2013.
His highs are off the chart high.
At the same time, he has had a bigger budget than anyone on the list relative to peers.
And he is only 3-7 in Bowl games.
He felt placed about right to me however if Jefferson is Cam Newton light than he can take UCF to some great places.
BUT only if that defense tackles folks this year.
Malzahn lost a 14-0 lead versus McGuire last year in head-to-head with bowl eligibility on the line and I might give McGuire the edge just due to that and Joey's 2-0 Bowl record.
Whittingham and Gundy are similar in a lot of ways. Hardware isn’t one of them, Whittingham has the advantage there.
Klye winning 2 titles with 8 loses. Is just with a lot of g5 wins
@@robertpearce4316having to transition a G5 team to the top team in a power 5 conference is a position no matter how many times you try and hold it against wittingham.
@nicko5945 I've said the kyle is a good coach and program. My main deal is the pac 12 hasn't been the strongest league since utah has been in. When comparing gundy with kyle, look at top 25 wins last 10 years. Gundy is top 5 national. Kyle has played over 10 less top 25 teams. Reason he has played less is pac 12 have had less top 25 teams.
Gundy is like 10 and 2 against pac12 with his best win against number 4 stanford. There has been a few year oac 12 only had 2 finished ranked.
Gundy had to build osu football. Osu had bad teams. 1988 to 2005 we had 4 bowls. One year we had no wins. Kicked guys off the team from les miles team. Complete rebuild. Osu as a program was under 500.
WVU defense should be much improved if they can stay healthy.
Dykes hasn’t done anymore with his players than Aranda. He was the perfect short term counter punch to GP, but not long term. Bruce a Weberesque
So a National title game isn't more than. Big 12 title?
Malzahn as title game appearance too.
@@kenneaderhiser7768 and was fired
@BigB - Is Gus being fired a mark against Gus or Auburn?
Dykes has to be top two or three😊Only Big 12 coach to win a playoff in the hardest time of only four with a team that was unranked😎Only coach ever to get to natty unranked in first year😎
That whole year was lucky for sonny. Won close games. Picked wrong qb. Practically no injuries. If chandler won have lost a couple of games, no playoff with no big 12 title.
@@robertpearce4316 Rather be lucky than good and never make it like rest of the big 12😎
@@briancapers9955 how long do you live of that 1 lucky year. Like baylor too.
So why should sonny be put higher if he is lucky.
Other big12 coaches have actually won national champonships. Multiple.
Fitz has been on gundy a lot. Chris is 1 and 4 against gundy.
Chris is a nice coach but has never built a program.
Stop using the covid as an excuse. Chris lost his qb, nothing to do with covid just good ole football.
Actually, more people has osu winning the big 12 then ksu. There are more people who have ksu go to the title game. Out side of Manhattan not many have ksu winning title.
Im not sold on utah yet. By schedule and respect i have them at 10 and 2. By vegas they play 4th team and no other in top 6. We heard about their run defense despite baylor ran nice as the worst big 12 run offense. Osu and at least isu or ucf are loses. They could go 10 and 2 but not go to the title game because of the schedule.
He has done more. Poor wording, but main point stands. Is he a Power conference leader? That is as open a question as it is with Aranda.
He doesn’t strike me as that type. As of now he is football version of Bruce Weber, who also took another coach’s players to a national title game.
So Dykes is like 99% of coaches, not fired yet. Maybe he proves me wrong. He just seems like Robin at this level not Batman.
My question for tomorrow:
Utah, K-State, ku, Arizona and Oklahoma St seem to be the consensus Arlington Candidate tier of B12.
What are questions each need to answer positively to get to Arlington? Not that they can’t or won’t answer them, but they are unanswered right now that can deny them a CCG spot?
K-State: Why do they give away games each year. Seems like they needs to lose an expected W to find their resiliency. That was not a good culture that came out against ISU.
Their bye week plans need tweaked and they have two. I have those over new QB and OC but I’m tougher on my team.
ku, losing Liepold’s 11 year OC is a much bigger deal than people think. He hasn’t had to worry about OC for a long time. And defense is still a question that has not been answered completely.
AZ: New HC is obvious.
Ok St: It hasn’t been back to back great seasons like it used to when he would go 9 plus 8 of 10 years. Critics point to getting K-State and OU at home, but he did get the wins. Is Gundy back to stringing together top seasons again?
Utah: Fewest questions. I need to research my question but based on the description of Cam Rising, is he a bring you back from down QB or a very good play with a lead QB. I really don’t know ow enough. But not many other questions there besides having to go week in and week out physical opponents. That is a fair question because mostly, they delivered Big 12 style toughness, but didn’t receive it every week.
found the kstate clown
KUs D has improved every year. Even last year against a tougher schedule. Gotta find a rush-DE, but that’s been the question for the last 3 seasons which has been answered better and better each season. There’s atleast a trio of 4* candidates this season.
Is Fritz that different than say NBrown, except that he hasnt played at this level?
Ness. Much different. You will see. Just give him a few years to clean up the ness.
“Just give him a few years.”
That sounds like you’re saying he hasn’t done it yet, but you think he will.
Is this a projection of what coaches have accomplished or what you think they might accomplish in spite of not having accomplished?
@@johnlee7085 he hasn't had the opportunity at Houston. He has been successful at every stop because he is a great coach.
A lot of you b12 guys just can’t bring yourself to rank Utah number 1 in anything. Whit is clearly number one on this list.
I mean, Gundy and Whittingham have been coaching for the same amount of time and almost have identical records. Gundy is 166-79, Whittingham is 162-79. Can't really act like it's a robbery to have Gundy above Whittingham and this is coming from a WVU fan that's impartial to OSU or Utah.
And Utah can't believe they may not be the absolute best in the league at everything.
Kyle has alot if g5 wins.
Is pac 12 title real that good. 8 loses in 2 title runs is just 1 point.
@@michaelpeck1346 It will be fun to play Utah again as the Frogs had a good rivalry and beat them down several times 😊
Gundy has a better overall record and he wasn't g5