Unsolved Led Zeppelin Robbery: The Main Suspects

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @caramanico1
    @caramanico1 24 дня назад +31

    I distinctly remember reading in one of the monthly rock mags of the time (Circus, Hit Parader, Rolling Stone...) Plant stating that "if we make a big deal about this pleople will complain that we're spoiled and only care about money, and if we don't complain it's because we're so rich it doesn't bother us. We can't win either way."

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 21 день назад

      Yes, I remember the band saying that too. I believe I read that in Ritchie Yorke's Led Zeppelin Biography. Best just to Rock on!

    • @theesperanzacompromisebyja9044
      @theesperanzacompromisebyja9044 4 дня назад

      Yep. They couldn't win with the press. Plant was getting most of the criticism but Bonham seemed to take it the worst.

  • @jeffprenoveau4841
    @jeffprenoveau4841 22 дня назад +13

    Peter Grant, decided to make a tax free sweep and asked Cole to some dirty work. Life goes on !

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 21 день назад

      All these years, I've always thought the same thing!

  • @NKellyMullen
    @NKellyMullen 22 дня назад +12

    For the record, I was nowhere near The Drake Hotel on July 29, 1973.

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 21 день назад +1

      Me neither. Although it would have been more than worth the interrogation just to see them on stage that night!

  • @jmcb8440
    @jmcb8440 24 дня назад +15

    A PR stunt that neted them tax free $$$. Sounds legit!

  • @papamike9866
    @papamike9866 22 дня назад +6

    I don't think the money was ever in the safety deposit box.

  • @CutiePie-hh3gg
    @CutiePie-hh3gg 24 дня назад +16

    My suspect Peter Grant with the help of his faithful henchman Richard Cole

    • @robertungerbuehler9076
      @robertungerbuehler9076 12 дней назад +1

      I've thought the same all along! Grant was supposed to be all about his client, BUT he was trusted and also greedy. 2+2=4

  • @caseyeisenman
    @caseyeisenman 24 дня назад +21

    This robbery was just a publicity stunt, imo a robbery never took place.

    • @roywatson8133
      @roywatson8133 23 дня назад +1

      the arrogance of led zeppelin

    • @awolwakefieldyorkshire
      @awolwakefieldyorkshire 23 дня назад +3

      Yes publicity for the film

    • @ImYourOverlord
      @ImYourOverlord 23 дня назад +1

      I always thought Page might have taken it.

    • @Nicholas-dreamlove
      @Nicholas-dreamlove 22 дня назад +2

      @@ImYourOverlord : Why, he didn't need the money.

    • @douglasalexander4348
      @douglasalexander4348 22 дня назад +2

      @@Nicholas-dreamlove Some very famous people, JK Rowland etc signed their books at Waterstones London. Jimmy page stamped his. That should tell you all you need to know about how tight he is.

  • @MickeyWattsDeadHead
    @MickeyWattsDeadHead 18 дней назад +1

    One of 2 options:
    1) Totally fake publicity stunt for the film
    2) Peter Grant stole it

  • @timcoakley5498
    @timcoakley5498 23 дня назад +8

    Don’t forget the Mafia ruled supreme in New York at that time.

    • @FirstorDirt
      @FirstorDirt 22 дня назад

      If that were the case we would have ten washed up nobody's from that world taking credit for it.

    • @timcoakley5498
      @timcoakley5498 22 дня назад

      😂😂😂 yes your right, I didn’t think of that.

    • @Stonecutter334
      @Stonecutter334 21 день назад

      Still do.

  • @frankkeller3772
    @frankkeller3772 19 дней назад +1

    Seems like the hotel would be at least partially responsible for the missing funds.

  • @scottmackey4182
    @scottmackey4182 21 день назад +1

    Corruption in NYC is still rampant and crimes like this are an everyday occurrence.

  • @marciashiraishi5891
    @marciashiraishi5891 21 день назад +1

    There were rumors that no one stole the money, that this story was made up to cheat the IRS… whatever the truth, it added to the band’s legendary aura, that aura that made people’s imaginations boil. To quote a famous line from an old movie, “When the legend becomes bigger than the truth, publish the legend.”

  • @cynthiamarston2208
    @cynthiamarston2208 23 дня назад +6

    Cole looks guilty in that one pic. Lol

  • @youtube-jb
    @youtube-jb 20 дней назад

    very thank.s

  • @Sweet--Richard.4981
    @Sweet--Richard.4981 19 дней назад +1

    Why didn't they require payments by check?

  • @gypsydavy708
    @gypsydavy708 23 дня назад +20

    Maybe all the old blues men conspired to get their money back.

    • @ronbo11
      @ronbo11 22 дня назад

      I love LZ, but that would be some bad karma they earned.

    • @davidveloske279
      @davidveloske279 22 дня назад

      Bat tat

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 21 день назад +1

      IMHO, the "old blues men" got the royalties they earned from the music they published when they published it. Hardly anyone bought it. Supply and demand.

    • @gypsydavy708
      @gypsydavy708 21 день назад

      @@raysearch-iu3fr No one bought it at the time but a lot of those people had a second career after the British Invasion. My tongue in cheek remark refers to not given credit when credit was due. I guess some of it was eventually made good through lawsuits or settled out of court. Cheers.

    • @nurknanker6105
      @nurknanker6105 15 дней назад

      😅😂

  • @larrocovarry9027
    @larrocovarry9027 18 дней назад +2

    They accidentally issued the wrong key & box to us and when we opened it , we decided to take the money and run -- Steve Miller ...

    • @jamesmack3314
      @jamesmack3314 16 дней назад

      @@larrocovarry9027 and all they did with the money was sit around the house get high and watch the tube

  • @michaelpjeffries1521
    @michaelpjeffries1521 22 дня назад +5

    Was Rudy a hotel employee before becoming mayor.

    • @tomcarl8021
      @tomcarl8021 21 день назад

      No, Rudy was a DA at the time, and then he became the greatest mayor NYC ever had.

    • @tomlangley6236
      @tomlangley6236 21 день назад

      @@tomcarl8021 OUCH! Somebody got Butthurt!

  • @charleslanphier8094
    @charleslanphier8094 22 дня назад +4

    $6.50 to see the biggest band in the world.

    • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
      @JoeBlow-fp5ng 22 дня назад

      Quite a bargain.

    • @JamesThompson-zk1ht
      @JamesThompson-zk1ht 20 дней назад +1

      If that $200 grand is $1.4 million today, as stated in the video, that $6.50 is $45 now. Still not bad considering the insanity of today's concert prices.

    • @jamesmack3314
      @jamesmack3314 16 дней назад

      @@JamesThompson-zk1ht in 77 when I went it was 10 bucks…we thought it was expensive!!

  • @theesperanzacompromisebyja9044
    @theesperanzacompromisebyja9044 4 дня назад

    I've always thought it was Cole. On the band's first American tour he was making more money than Plant or Bonham. That changed real quick when they went from playing clubs to stadiums. He's shown a willingness to say whatever he has to in order to get a payday. His bio of the band is highly suspect.

  • @Jjj53214
    @Jjj53214 24 дня назад +13

    It was a publicity stunt for the film.

  • @MrSunDevil23
    @MrSunDevil23 17 дней назад

    The band wasn't told about the theft until after the last show on the night it happened.

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 23 дня назад +5

    Wouldn't The Drake be liable for anything in their strong box?

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 22 дня назад +1

      You would think so.

    • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
      @JoeBlow-fp5ng 22 дня назад +1

      I doubt it. How would the hotel management know exactly what was put in that safe deposit box without a full formal, witnessed accounting of the contents and a receipt given? For all the hotel staff knows, nothing was put inside that deposit box but an empty container.

    • @stevenedwards4470
      @stevenedwards4470 21 день назад

      @JoeBlow-fp5ng Yeah. That's a good point. How do banks guarantee the safety of their private boxes? I don't know how that works. But if there's a 2 key system, and someone on staff around the clock, one would think there might be some recourse. Today an upper class hotel would probably prefer to settle to avoid negative publicity. Back then this story probably enhanced the groove of the place. Just don't leave any stuff there.

    • @Mark-hn5bm
      @Mark-hn5bm 20 дней назад

      There’s no guaranteed safety inside a bank “safety deposit box “. I’d store my monopoly currency there

  • @davidmasi4682
    @davidmasi4682 20 дней назад +1

    Well if the box wasn't tampered with tells you that who ever it was had a second set of key's( exact copy's) and wore glove's was inside job had helpers as look outs.

  • @danielcruz8347
    @danielcruz8347 22 дня назад +2

    Kind of ridiculous amount of cash to hold in any hotels safety deposit box even today..Money should of been taken to proper bank!!
    🌬🔑🔑💵💵💵👈

  • @metatron007
    @metatron007 22 дня назад +2

    It was possible one of the five families..

  • @FirstorDirt
    @FirstorDirt 22 дня назад +5

    Exactly when did Robert plant transform into the cowardly lion from OZ

    • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
      @JoeBlow-fp5ng 22 дня назад +2

      Time is cruel. Even rock gods start to look like Ethel Merman after a while.

    • @Mark-hn5bm
      @Mark-hn5bm 20 дней назад +1

      Years of smoking and hard core partying doesn’t discriminate

  • @nurknanker6105
    @nurknanker6105 15 дней назад

    I was there. All I got was a free bar of soap.

  • @ultraviolet9863
    @ultraviolet9863 23 дня назад +1

    wonder if anyone's lifestyle suddenly changed after the 'incident'... still feel like it was an inside job, whether that be hotel staff or band management/no real thieves... really like the idea it was a publicity stunt for the movie.

  • @UNoBugMe1
    @UNoBugMe1 21 день назад

    I took the money, with the janitor. We actually used it to pay for hotdog stands in NYC and are now millionaires.

    • @JamesDickson-vs5of
      @JamesDickson-vs5of 20 дней назад

      No it was me with colonel custard, in the kitchen with the spanner

  • @64north20west
    @64north20west 23 дня назад

    How secure could that really be? Did they change locks for each patron? Would there be someone who had access to a duplicate key? Were valuables not insured? A lot of questions here.

  • @Jonhobbs64
    @Jonhobbs64 22 дня назад +2

    Too bad the "live" segments were filmed on a soundstage in a studio.

    • @MickeyWattsDeadHead
      @MickeyWattsDeadHead 18 дней назад

      I only learned that recently. So disappointed.

    • @Jonhobbs64
      @Jonhobbs64 18 дней назад

      @MickeyWattsDeadHead it kind of ruined it for me but the soundtrack is still awesome! You know they are planning to blow your sox off when they transition from rock and roll to celebration day!

  • @ericbgordon1575
    @ericbgordon1575 24 дня назад

    Incredible to imagine how the song does remain the same, even after you've had $180,000 of your money ripped off from you.

  • @johnhuber1974
    @johnhuber1974 24 дня назад +3

    How would they be able to put that much money in that small space? I'm not sure but what was the denomination of the money, was it 200 one thousand dollars bills? I'm not sure we are given the truth about all this. You should have a list of the money on each bill.
    You just can't say that it is 203 thousand dollars. That's all.

    • @RJSIdiomas
      @RJSIdiomas 24 дня назад

      Excellent point. At the time they said 180 thousand, but even so, that's a lot of five and ten dollar bills. All in one small briefcase?

    • @DAGDRUM53
      @DAGDRUM53 24 дня назад +1

      @@RJSIdiomas $180,000 in hundred dollar bills would fill a shoe box. The same amount in twenty dollar bills would be 9000 individual bills. Divided by 50 bills per banded stack would make 180 stacks. That many stacks would not fit in a briefcase, but would make for one very heavy suitcase. When Frank Sinatra was questioned at the Kefauver hearings if he had once been handed a briefcase with $2,000,000 in it he said, "I'd like like to see the briefcase that could hold two million bucks."

    • @shipsahoy1793
      @shipsahoy1793 23 дня назад

      @@johnhuber1974 One thousand $20 bills ($20,000, or about 1/10 of the money in question) would have a height of about 2.15 inches and a weight of about 2.2 pounds.

    • @ronbo11
      @ronbo11 22 дня назад

      The US Treasury stopped printing denominations > $100 in 1969, but there were still larger ones in circulation. I remember once as a kid my father got a $500 bill before we went on a vacation and we all marveled at it! If the cash in the briefcase was as collected, it would have been mainly $10 or $20 bills, but if they exchanged their box office for easier handling then it would probably have been $500 bills.

  • @oneofmany1087
    @oneofmany1087 22 дня назад +1

    Some say it was Karma for charging 8.50 when the going rate was 4.50 a concert

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 21 день назад

      Well, that said, prices reflecting supply and demand in a free market is the best system ever created.

  • @fredtruby492
    @fredtruby492 12 дней назад

    In the clip where they were playing "The Ocean," The drummer does NOT look like it's Bonzo.........Oh Man, I think I might have just solved this caper. You're Welcome!

  • @someguy7993
    @someguy7993 24 дня назад +4

    The hotel manager had a key to the safe. Unless he kept that key on his body at all times, then some other hotel employee had the ability to take the money and get away with it.

  • @JamesThompson-zk1ht
    @JamesThompson-zk1ht 20 дней назад

    A lot of you are pointing the finger at Cole. But think about this. He would never ever have been able to spend it. The band and Grant knew exactly what Cole earned, cuz they're the ones paying his salary. So they'd also have known what he could afford to spend and to buy. To me this says even more than the lie detector test.

  • @davidpaterson3443
    @davidpaterson3443 24 дня назад +5

    The Mob ???

  • @danielmiller210
    @danielmiller210 21 день назад

    I remember back in the 80s Ted Nugent said the mob robbed in the stadium money it was probably more common then what people think in the 90s my band was playing in Ybor City Tampa and our manager said he was robbed in the play Ali behind the bar it was only $500 but that was what we lived on these days put on the other hand he lived the shady life just like most managers🤨

  • @andersonslade3226
    @andersonslade3226 19 дней назад

    They stole their own money to pay for the drugs, case closed.

    • @lewisaveryfiler7087
      @lewisaveryfiler7087 17 дней назад

      I think they stole it themselves to beat the "tax man" out of his share.

  • @jamesmack3314
    @jamesmack3314 22 дня назад +1

    I think there’s a connection to the Jimmy Hoffa disappearance

  • @1sttvbn
    @1sttvbn 23 дня назад +4

    Stunt

  • @kabiam
    @kabiam 18 дней назад

    There were no witnesses, probably no money. it's all hearsay. When cash was king.

  • @gregsworkshop2
    @gregsworkshop2 22 дня назад

    $ 1,421,139.64 worth in today's money

    • @Mark-hn5bm
      @Mark-hn5bm 20 дней назад

      It’s only that much if you go by the fraudulent mainstream inflation numbers. If you calculate by real inflation numbers it’s substantially more

  • @timray7066
    @timray7066 22 дня назад

    I remember this, I suspect they have a good idea who did this.

  • @alanwann9318
    @alanwann9318 23 дня назад +1

    Money earned abroad is tax free, isnt it

    • @danmadgett1513
      @danmadgett1513 23 дня назад +1

      Absolutely Not !
      That’s why American ExPats Denounce American Citizenship
      They make a living Overseas & pay taxes Overseas
      IRS wants their share of money being made by Americans anywhere
      As long as you’re a American citizen. Trump wants your money (Taxes).

    • @jamesschwartz3837
      @jamesschwartz3837 22 дня назад

      @@danmadgett1513 true indeed.

    • @lewisaveryfiler7087
      @lewisaveryfiler7087 17 дней назад

      Depends which country you are from. If you are a UK citizen monies earned out of the UK is not taxable by UK HM Revenue and Customs That is why so many UK bands lived outside of the UK as tax exiles back in the day. However, a UK band that earned money on U.S. soil had a tax obligation to the IRS.
      On the other hand, U.S. citizens are taxed on worldwide income. One of a very few countries with such a policy.

    • @jamesschwartz3837
      @jamesschwartz3837 17 дней назад

      @ yeah - Uncle Sam has to get his! 😝

  • @GeorgeFloyd2023
    @GeorgeFloyd2023 21 день назад

    I bet that he wanted to take a M2 Browning to them like Bronson?

  • @SuperCreeper666
    @SuperCreeper666 17 дней назад

    I think it was a couple of hoods connected to the Ronzoni crime family.

  • @redwine65
    @redwine65 20 дней назад

    probably the goodfella guys

  • @timlies3627
    @timlies3627 21 день назад

    Zep good

  • @andyevans2336
    @andyevans2336 22 дня назад +1

    The question of could that much money fit in the saftey deposit box? Well, in 1969, my grandfather asked me if I wanted to count $10,000. I was amazed when he handed me 10 1,000$ bills. Seemed a bit anticlimatic to a 13 year old at the time. Yeah, that much would fit if they were big bills.

    • @lewisaveryfiler7087
      @lewisaveryfiler7087 17 дней назад

      Back in the day there also use to be $10,000 bills in circulation. The highest U.S. denomination issued to the public.

  • @jamesmack3314
    @jamesmack3314 22 дня назад +1

    The movie was terrible

    • @lewisaveryfiler7087
      @lewisaveryfiler7087 17 дней назад +1

      Agree, but the soundtrack was great.

    • @jamesmack3314
      @jamesmack3314 16 дней назад

      @@lewisaveryfiler7087 I will say the version of stairway they do is really excellent….

  • @sicotshit7068
    @sicotshit7068 22 дня назад

    Yes it would take two keys to open, one help by the bank/hotel, & one by the box holder. You have to wonder too, did the hotel also have a master key, & if so where was it kept? Likely it was Cole who took it, & never actually put it in the box, just made it seem as though he did.

  • @davidprice7162
    @davidprice7162 19 дней назад

    It’s still less than the money they stole from the people that actually wrote the songs everyone considers a “led zeppelin” song today. From Stairway to heaven, to immigrant song to black mountain side, they stole them all and claimed them as their own. World’s most successful cover band.