Reamping Shootout - Fryette Power Station vs Suhr Reactive Load vs Power Scaling
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- An audio comparison of different volume management methods:
-Suhr Reactive Load IR, re-amped by Duncan Powerstage 170
-Fryette Power Station (Deep and Brite setting)
-Morgan MVP23 onboard power scaling
-Morgan MVP23 onboard master volume
Morgan MVP23
Fender Telecaster
Morgan 1x12 cabinet with Scumback SC75
I have an MVP23 combo and I'll never part with it. Super simple and versatile.
Agreed, it's a great amp and does so many different sounds with such a simple layout.
@@fiveightandten Indeed. I've seen you on TGP. We are fans of the MVP.
Helpful comparison! I'm considering an MVP23 for my next amp and wondered whether you think there's any reason to go head/cab or combo. I'm thinking head/cab might make it easier to connect to a Captor X for recording and may make the tubes last longer?
The MVP23 comes in the 20" combo enclosure. It sounds good and is easy to gig with. You may want to go with the head if you want to use it with a larger cab. The Morgan 1x12 cab is 24" and sounds a bit more stout than the 20" combo. Though head + cab is definitely more expensive than the combo.
You can put a 1/4" to 1/4" junction box in the back of the combo for putting the Captor X in line, though using a head does indeed make that easier. Tube life should be the same between them, as it's more linked to impact during transport and how hard the amp is run.
The Captor X sounds good with the MVP23, but IMO the attenuator knocks it down to volumes that are only good for home use. And the power scaling on the MVP23 sounds better than the Captor's attenuation. Though it's great for recording or sending a signal to FOH live.
@@fiveightandten Thanks for the reply! I didn't know that about the cabinets. I think I lean toward the combo for portability since it doesn't have an effects loop anyway and tube rattle doesn't seem to be an issue. Do you know whether Morgan wires the speaker to the amp in combos or of it just plugs into a jack on the underside?
@@armadachamp They use the same chassis in the heads and combos. So the speaker is plugged into the speaker out jack with a 1/4" plug that's wired to the speaker. I've seen them with the speaker end soldered, and seen them with the speaker end having spade connectors. I'm not sure what the current practice is. But the combo chassis does have 1/4" speaker outs on it, same as the head.
The lead is not long enough to reach the Captor X, but I use a little junction box in there to make the connections and it works well. Amp speaker out jack > Captor X > junction box > speaker lead > speaker.
@@fiveightandten Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks!
What did you use for cab sims with the power station since it has no ir’s?
There's no IR applied to anything. It's all going into the speaker cabinet. The Suhr was being used with the "unfiltered" output, re-amped by that Duncan PS170 power amp into the cabinet.
I prefer the Power Station and power scailing in this video, Is the Suhr Reactive Load sound better if reamp with power amp of the Power Station? I think the Power Stage might not best for this application due to the class d and high damping.
The Suhr yields a warm full sound, with a thick low end, and the high end is smooth and somewhat subdued. IMO, the EQ difference is larger than the difference in response/feel between the 2 types of power amps. Though the Class D amp in the PS170 does have a different feel than a tube power amp like the Freyette has.
I like the load in the Suhr and the power amp in the Fryette. That's the best combination for my ears. But it's not a cheap or practical one! Thanks for the comment.
I'm currently using the SS power amp with the Suhr Reactive Load too, not quite satified with it, still thinking to go with the tube power amp.
Your information help me confident to try a tube power amp, I'll look into the Power Station now.
Thank you very much.