@@SDuapveer11 No stop trying to blame people of color for this. That's what DEI immediately conjures up in peoples' minds. It's a company problem, pilots need better training. While not being a proponent of DEI it sounds like you're looking for a scapegoat!
Did Southwest go through with its announced plan to cut required turbine engine flight hours from 1,000 hours to 500 hours for new pilot hires? That was supposed to have happened in February 2023. Larry Fink (BlackRock) is largely responsible for ESG corporate hiring (ESG is basically same thing as DEI). Vanguard Group and BlackRock can be considered one entity as they are so closely intertwined. Vanguard owns 11.29% (#1) of Southwest shares while BlackRock owns 5.99% (#5). The Corporation owns the US government too so there is nothing to stop the continuing collapse of safety regulations across the board.
@@TexasGurlAlwaysAndForever It is the same. A cabal of billionaires working to achieve their dreams of becoming trillionaires... and total world power.
You talk out of the side of your neck. DEI? I doubt you understand what it entails. From the way you infer it is to hire a minority before the whites? Of course that’s the white supremacists argument. Not understanding the context behind initiatives but rather repeating Fox propaganda talking points. Your racist fascism is showing. GSIYH
@@dieselgoinham What's your explanation for the dramatic uptick in aviation incidents of late?? You can't argue with the fact that the "Gen Kids" have been VERY upfront about their lack of interest in their "careers."
@@ladyl3583 ....so thats about 4 in total from southwest....hopefully they don't run out of luck...Aviation is unforgiving and you can only getaway with so much until the big one happens
Doors falling off, windows cracking, fuselage peeling off, cutback on inspections and pilot error just wants to make me run right out and buy a airline ticket.
@@Yashuryabetcha I have flown 140k miles with Delta and a few flight on Southwest, the last two years for work without any major issues, only weather delays and waiting for flight attendants inbound on another weather delayed flight. Sorry you had a bad experience. People get in car accidents every day. Doesn’t mean I’m not going to get in my car and drive where I need to go.
@@YashuryabetchaSure, but statistically it is significantly safer now than any other period of aviation. We have not had a major passenger plane crash since 2001. Since COVID, there have been six fatal accidents and four of these were single fatality incidents-two suicides and two crew not paying attention and getting ingested by the engine. Of the remaining two, one was the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash and the other was a seaplane that crashed. The last crashes to kill more than 10 people were in 2006 and 2009, and like I mentioned earlier, the last major fatal crash of a passenger jet was 2001 when AA587 crashed in Queens. Before that, a probable pilot suicide in 1999, and the crash of TWA800 in 1996. So since 1996, there have been three major incidents where 200+ people died and 8 in which more than 10 people died, all of which occurred prior to 2010. Obviously statistics can change but when you consider the fact that the joint worst crashes we’ve had in the last 15 years in the USA only killed 10 people each, the odds are extremely in your favor of having a safe flight. Maybe a bumpy one, maybe a delayed one, but flying right now is incredibly safe. Far safer than the summer of 1985, that’s for sure where at least 1,000 people died between just five crashes alone, and 2,000+ overall during that year.
I’m a pilot myself. My guess is they’re flying in low visibility setting up the approach and just relying on the autopilot without paying close attention to the instruments. Is really easy to get lulled to sleep with all the tech because it’s right 99% of the time but you have to stay vigilant
Technology is supposed to ENHANCE safety not lull pilots to sleep. It kind of reminds me of how people blame auto-correct for their grammar/spelling mistakes. Auto correct is supposed to make you BETTER, not give you an excuse for being worse.
@@pirate3599well that’s not true…LOL! You could have something as simple as a faulty altimeter setting that would cause the plane to climb or descend to the wrong altitude
I live right there in Pinellas county and it happens all the time I can be in my backyard and literally like throw tennis ball to hit the plane it's been like that for years I'm glad you're looking into it
@NiceDonkey3417 that's considered close to the airport, if you don't know. Glad I could help you figure out something so simple, even tho you're a grown adult! Hope you can appreciate that!
@woottastic ok well then let me put it in other words. The nearest airport is 3 towns and a big ole bay away. The flight patterns, they only changed to flying over our area about 3 years. Quit interjecting into things you don't know about - it doesn't look good on you.
I’m a private pilot. You wanna know how a lot of pilot gain credentials? They cram their training and hours just to hit the flight deck as soon as possible. There’s plenty of incompetent pilots flying, today, right now.
@@IfImCommentingStopMe just giving the most obvious example. Read it again, no political division intended genius boy. But since you brought it up, RFK All the way!
That’s now three close calls with CFIT (Hawaii, Oklahoma and Tampa) then there is the takeoff in Portland, ME from a closed runway with vehicles and personnel on it. So raises the question what’s going on at SWA? Is this a training issue, low time/experience issue, op tempo, cultural, or failed oversight? We will find out shortly.
I live in st pete under one of the main turning spots for both Clearwater and TPA. I watched one go over that was wildly low last week - It couldn't have been 400 ft up.
I think they may be flying lower coming into TPA maybe trying to avoid the additional traffic into the Clearwater-St. Pete airport, and the one that accommodates private jets. More traffic equals crazier traffic patterns.
I seen this plane I was on Bayshore driving towards downtown. I saw them coming over the water low ASF. Then it went over us and we thought it was gonna hit one of the buildings on Bayshore but it went back up. Many people would have been hurt. Including us cause we saw this plane flying too low near tall buildings. Wtf wrong with them.
DEI hires in the aviation complex: "The Federal Aviation Administration is actively recruiting workers who suffer 'severe intellectual' disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website."
You clearly have no idea what the FAA is, stop spreading hate. Most roles are administrative, and cleaning offices, nothing wrong with intellectually disabled toilet cleaners. Or depressed and anxious secretaries. That is all mentally ill means. You probably have had a mental illness or will have one too. Depression and anxiety, super common. The FAA are just the investigation agency, they don't employ pilots or ATC.
All planes have ground proximity warnings that usually consist of a bell or buzzer going off and then a voice saying "pull up!". In the past many planes flew into mountains because of a lack of one or in a few cases pilots turning them off. So what happened here???
Nothing wrong with Boeings. They've been flying literally 100's of thousands of hours without incident. 2 fatal crashes and one door plug is nothing compared to the records of some other aircraft that you fly on routinely. So stop buying the media headlines and realize that Airbuses crash just as often.
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate..
Was there no ILS system (precision approach) on that runway? Especially in adverse weather conditions. Regardless, there should have been one pilot monitoring (and calling out) critical metrics like altitude, airspeed etc. There should even be an automated system calling out audibles like "minimums" and "altitude". The Controller also was a bit late to the party in telling them to go around. How they ended up only 150 feet high and 4 miles out is baffling.
That’s totally unacceptable. Every pilot knows the three to one rule. At four miles they should have been at 1200 ft. If they were flying a non precision approach, they should have been no lower than the MDA. at a 150’ the crew seriously screwed up.
This time of year the storms can keep a plane flying around and around over the Gulf until the fuel darn near runs out. It happened on a flight I was on. We had an amazing pilot who took us into TPA between clouds in a miraculous landing. Not for the faint at heart.
I hate flying into airports like Tampa or Boston where you’re flying over water until you get to the runway. I’m always afraid we’re going to land in the water.
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate.
@@SDuapveer11 I'm just wondering what the thought process is like for people like you? Do you just enjoy repeating things you hear from other people or the news without actually fact checking? Just like a parrot does... When you say the cause of these incidents were due to DEI hiring, did you actually fact check that or do you just repeat what others around you have said. Did you know the pilots who operated the A/C during these recent incidents were all of Caucasian descent? Did you know the majority of pilots in the US are White males? Do you have any idea how the pilot hiring actually works? Did you know it takes years of training and time building and extensive background checks involved, to put pilots behind these multi-million dollar equipment? I work in the airline industry I am very familiar with Southwest operation and I find myself to be more of a republican than a democrat BTW. I don't know you and I'm not tying to be mean, I just encourage you to not be a parrot.
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate.
@jamesjohnson1050 the point is that race, religion or sexual disposition should be the absolute last thing that comes into play while hiring someone. Especially if that someone could possibly effect the lives of others... BUT that being said the government and corporations are putting those things first which is extremely dangerous to everyone..
@sarahann530 , to people like him, if a minority or a woman makes a mistake, they are automatically a DEI hires, but if a White male makes a mistake, then it was just a mistake.
To compound the pilot issues, the Southwest fleet is exclusively comprised of defective Boeing planes. Until the industry corrects these issues and stops placing an emphasis on DEI pilots and maintenance staff I won't be flying anywhere!
Funny: The footage is on RWY 1L and a perfectly good landing on a clear day. Didn't the actual flight divert to FLL (due to weather)? (actually went missed/go-around and flew over the runway at about 2500+ feet vs 1,600' as instructed by atc (ADSB shows 2500 - 2600+ over rwy) )
@@Jeff_Bieren Funny 2: the liveatc footage shows the aircraft inbound to land rwy 10. The video shows it landing rwy 01, so what happened to the liveatc segment or was the video of another SWA flight? Oh, looking at flightaware for this flight, it was trying to land rwy 10 because of the hvy storms in the bay area (I reside east of the bay and can attest to the fierceness of the storm cells Sunday and it indeed diverted to Ft Lauderdale.
Given enough time whatever can go wrong will go wrong. The FAA needs to put something in place so pilots can’t mistake the causeway for the airport again. Maybe that’s not what happened here… time will tell
I always liked Southwest……better get their stuff together…..didn’t mention if it was a rain storm…..my sisters plane got diverted to Orlando years ago because of bad weather in Tampa….
I was just on a SWA flight from Miami to Nashville last week. We originally couldn’t land in Nashville because of the weather so we circled the air for roughly 40 minutes. Then we had 2 failed landing attempts where I could see the runway and then we took off again. Pilots said it was an autopilot issue and we eventually had to divert to Louisville to refuel. It felt very chaotic.
I think everyone knows damn well the overwhelming majority of pilots across most major and regional US airlines are white men. Period. This DEI narrative is bull. That’s a low key way of spewing a racist under tone and narrative. All near misses and crashes; those pilots were not minorities. So how is this a DEI issue if these pilots are not minorities?
No doubt. Didn't know they are on the diversity bandwagon. I won't fly with them anymore. Too many crashes in the past with other air lines due to inexperienced pilots
Supposedly Southwest (ESG corporation like most corporations are) cut required pilot hours in turbine engine planes for new hires from 1,000 hours to 500 hours in February 2023. ESG is another version of DEI and its spread throughout the corporate world is largely the handiwork BlackRock's Larry Fink.
Sounds like from the dialog between the tower that maybe they could see on radar that the approach was too low which is why they reminded the pilot what the altimeter setting is because that is usually not provided during the approach, the pilot would already have that information from ATIS. ATC often will first remind the pilot of the altimeter setting when they see a deviation from the assigned altitude before they ask them why are they not at the assigned altitude - just a guess on my part.
I once applied for one of four (4) positions with the Pinellas County Government in which I was fully qualified. I was not successful. I knew the department head personally and asked him why I was not hired. He told me privately that I was the wrong color.
Yes: The Federal Aviation Administration is actively recruiting workers who suffer “severe intellectual” disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website.
There's likely pressures from the Feds to keep that under the rug. When we start seeing planes fly into mountains again like 20-30 years ago then they might take a second look.
To bad the old school military trained pilots have retired or passed on. The sully sullenbergers. Why not hired the pilots back who refused the jib jab?
Come on! We all know how they got there and it is pilot error! Actually it’s company error and the people they are hiring who are not qualified to be in that flight deck! It’s DEI hiring at its best!
But what happened? The retired pilot says it must've been pilot error. Does he know what happened? Did they forget to adjust their altimeter for Tampa?
Mind boggling. What was the visibility like? If it was poor, what was going on with the glideslope on the ILS ??? And if things don't look right i.e. distance from runway to altitude, aren't they monitoring their instruments in case?? Complacency and putting all your faith in the automation.
Tampa Bay Area "bad weather". It's a common occurrence. Reminds me of the bad weather that occurred the morning of the 1980 Sunshine Skyway Bridge disaster.
@@Dnttrip304 I lived in "Penniless" County for 25 years before finally getting out of Florida, and the Media always referred to that region as the "Bay Area". Oh, "Tampa Bay" is a body of water with a lot of fish and sea life contained therein. I cringe when I hear the sports Media "up north" saying that the Rays or the Buccaneers "are playing in Tampa Bay"..... If they did they might drown. Oh BTW, I always loved Tampa! Cheers!
Other people get their close calls on the news but holy crap it I capture something that's big news it goes unseen , my close call video capture of airliners crossing eachother at 38,000 feet!!!!! But no one cares about what I got on video until it hits the ground then people start caring , SAD VERY SAD!!!!!!!
I have pictures of the underside of a bridge that has cracked and crumbling concrete due to a lack of maintenance (I40 in TN-Harriman exit). I called to report the horrific condition of this bridge to TDOT about a month ago. It has not been touched. Thousands of cars and tractor trailers will full payloads travel across this bridge every day. No one cares until it comes crashing down and lives are lost. They'll claim the bridge has been maintained. We pay plenty of tax in TN, but still there is no excuse for this. People need to do their damn jobs!
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As a retired pilot, this is crazy. SWA better get serious!
@@mattdelany6799
There is an idiot on every corner.
@@fredfloyd2129 really? I retired at 45 with 8 million invested, and no debt. You had to work ‘til 65. Get a hobby.
@mattdelaney….nobody cares…stay in the lane your mom tells you to get in….
@@mattdelany6799The fact that you mentioned that you have eight millions, is evidence that you don’t. Stay in your lane.
Exactly
Pilot training is lacking. No CRM. Very scary. 4 incidents since April.
Pilot competence is also lacking thanks to DEI.
Hiring for McDonald's
@@SDuapveer11 No stop trying to blame people of color for this. That's what DEI immediately conjures up in peoples' minds. It's a company problem, pilots need better training. While not being a proponent of DEI it sounds like you're looking for a scapegoat!
Assumptions again. Every Airline and most Flight Schools implement Crew Resource Management..
@@rut5161 you misspelled Obama
Did Southwest go through with its announced plan to cut required turbine engine flight hours from 1,000 hours to 500 hours for new pilot hires? That was supposed to have happened in February 2023. Larry Fink (BlackRock) is largely responsible for ESG corporate hiring (ESG is basically same thing as DEI). Vanguard Group and BlackRock can be considered one entity as they are so closely intertwined. Vanguard owns 11.29% (#1) of Southwest shares while BlackRock owns 5.99% (#5). The Corporation owns the US government too so there is nothing to stop the continuing collapse of safety regulations across the board.
BlackRock? Would that be the same BlackRock the Trump assassin was in the video for?
@@TexasGurlAlwaysAndForever It is the same. A cabal of billionaires working to achieve their dreams of becoming trillionaires... and total world power.
DEI hire.
@@Nefertum1000more garbage
You talk out of the side of your neck. DEI? I doubt you understand what it entails. From the way you infer it is to hire a minority before the whites? Of course that’s the white supremacists argument. Not understanding the context behind initiatives but rather repeating Fox propaganda talking points. Your racist fascism is showing. GSIYH
These type of close calls and other airline mishaps used to be rare occurrences, now they are very common.
When you hire Gen Y and Z types to maintain planes, who have made it VERY obvious they have no dedication to their occupation, what do you expect??
DEI
@@bfreeman2121This is a 40 I.Q. take.
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@@dieselgoinham What's your explanation for the dramatic uptick in aviation incidents of late?? You can't argue with the fact that the "Gen Kids" have been VERY upfront about their lack of interest in their "careers."
You forgot the incident in Hawaii
@@ladyl3583 ....so thats about 4 in total from southwest....hopefully they don't run out of luck...Aviation is unforgiving and you can only getaway with so much until the big one happens
And sf and Seattle
I was thinking that too
Doors falling off, windows cracking, fuselage peeling off, cutback on inspections and pilot error just wants to make me run right out and buy a airline ticket.
And they are charging more.
Statistically, you'll be fine.
@@Yashuryabetcha I have flown 140k miles with Delta and a few flight on Southwest, the last two years for work without any major issues, only weather delays and waiting for flight attendants inbound on another weather delayed flight. Sorry you had a bad experience. People get in car accidents every day. Doesn’t mean I’m not going to get in my car and drive where I need to go.
@@jtdownes😂 that's reassuring
@@YashuryabetchaSure, but statistically it is significantly safer now than any other period of aviation. We have not had a major passenger plane crash since 2001. Since COVID, there have been six fatal accidents and four of these were single fatality incidents-two suicides and two crew not paying attention and getting ingested by the engine. Of the remaining two, one was the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash and the other was a seaplane that crashed. The last crashes to kill more than 10 people were in 2006 and 2009, and like I mentioned earlier, the last major fatal crash of a passenger jet was 2001 when AA587 crashed in Queens. Before that, a probable pilot suicide in 1999, and the crash of TWA800 in 1996. So since 1996, there have been three major incidents where 200+ people died and 8 in which more than 10 people died, all of which occurred prior to 2010. Obviously statistics can change but when you consider the fact that the joint worst crashes we’ve had in the last 15 years in the USA only killed 10 people each, the odds are extremely in your favor of having a safe flight. Maybe a bumpy one, maybe a delayed one, but flying right now is incredibly safe. Far safer than the summer of 1985, that’s for sure where at least 1,000 people died between just five crashes alone, and 2,000+ overall during that year.
Somebody should look out the window.
😂 right??!
Actually more cues from the instruments
I’m a pilot myself. My guess is they’re flying in low visibility setting up the approach and just relying on the autopilot without paying close attention to the instruments. Is really easy to get lulled to sleep with all the tech because it’s right 99% of the time but you have to stay vigilant
No gpws is interesting
Technology is supposed to ENHANCE safety not lull pilots to sleep. It kind of reminds me of how people blame auto-correct for their grammar/spelling mistakes. Auto correct is supposed to make you BETTER, not give you an excuse for being worse.
I don't even rely wholly upon my auto navigation for Pete's sake! I can already see the hwy patrol car before it tells me there's a speed trap!😅
No tech in world takes you to 150 feet 5 miles from an airport
@@pirate3599well that’s not true…LOL! You could have something as simple as a faulty altimeter setting that would cause the plane to climb or descend to the wrong altitude
I didn’t know that Santa Claus had been a pilot, but that makes sense for flying sleds and reindeer.
🎅✈️
Ha . He is the worlds best pilot.
I say Santa is certainly qualified
Who has more experience landing an aircraft than Santa? He lands on every roof in the world to deliver presents 🎁🎅
@@HRpuffnstuff23and quickest
I live right there in Pinellas county and it happens all the time I can be in my backyard and literally like throw tennis ball to hit the plane it's been like that for years I'm glad you're looking into it
Same. I'm always wondering if they're falling or just too low.
thats called "approach to landing". Dont move near an airport and complain that there's planes outside.
@@woottastic I live 8 miles from the nearest airport. Try again.
@NiceDonkey3417 that's considered close to the airport, if you don't know. Glad I could help you figure out something so simple, even tho you're a grown adult! Hope you can appreciate that!
@woottastic ok well then let me put it in other words. The nearest airport is 3 towns and a big ole bay away. The flight patterns, they only changed to flying over our area about 3 years. Quit interjecting into things you don't know about - it doesn't look good on you.
I’m a private pilot. You wanna know how a lot of pilot gain credentials? They cram their training and hours just to hit the flight deck as soon as possible. There’s plenty of incompetent pilots flying, today, right now.
Very true!
There’s incompetent people in every job. Look at our president for a prime example.
@@herec0mestr0ble no one needs your political divisiveness brought into this dude. There are plenty of examples out there that we can all agree on
@@IfImCommentingStopMe just giving the most obvious example. Read it again, no political division intended genius boy. But since you brought it up, RFK All the way!
@@IfImCommentingStopMeAlways has to be one with the OBLIGATORY POLITICAL STATEMENT
That’s now three close calls with CFIT (Hawaii, Oklahoma and Tampa) then there is the takeoff in Portland, ME from a closed runway with vehicles and personnel on it.
So raises the question what’s going on at SWA?
Is this a training issue, low time/experience issue, op tempo, cultural, or failed oversight?
We will find out shortly.
I think we’ll find out AFTER casualties.
Every since the founder Herb died some a couple years ago things have been not as together as they were.
@@TrangNguyen-vc3ykthat's what I am afraid of
I live in st pete under one of the main turning spots for both Clearwater and TPA. I watched one go over that was wildly low last week - It couldn't have been 400 ft up.
YIKES ❗️😬
What airline was it? Swa again??
I think they may be flying lower coming into TPA maybe trying to avoid the additional traffic into the Clearwater-St. Pete airport, and the one that accommodates private jets. More traffic equals crazier traffic patterns.
I seen this plane I was on Bayshore driving towards downtown. I saw them coming over the water low ASF. Then it went over us and we thought it was gonna hit one of the buildings on Bayshore but it went back up. Many people would have been hurt. Including us cause we saw this plane flying too low near tall buildings. Wtf wrong with them.
Sounds to me like a bunch of Pilots got together and watch Top Gun Maverick..
😂 It's not the plane, it's the pilot
Really excited to get on my SW flight this afternoon!
Good luck
Sign of the Cross for you.🙏😬
Me toooo, mines at 5:30 am tomorrow help
Over Macho Grande?
Did you live? Pls reply ! Lol
DEI hires in the aviation complex: "The Federal Aviation Administration is actively recruiting workers who suffer 'severe intellectual' disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website."
You don’t even know what DEI means you troll.
Exactly!
You clearly have no idea what the FAA is, stop spreading hate. Most roles are administrative, and cleaning offices, nothing wrong with intellectually disabled toilet cleaners. Or depressed and anxious secretaries. That is all mentally ill means. You probably have had a mental illness or will have one too. Depression and anxiety, super common. The FAA are just the investigation agency, they don't employ pilots or ATC.
They only hire intellectually disabled people as toilet cleaners, they need jobs too. Get over it
Source?
All planes have ground proximity warnings that usually consist of a bell or buzzer going off and then a voice saying "pull up!". In the past many planes flew into mountains because of a lack of one or in a few cases pilots turning them off. So what happened here???
Noisy cockpit. Noise doesn't bother them. They're used to it. 😳
A voice cones on. Terrain, Terrain, Pull Up!!!!
Dats just how da cockpit sound
GPWS does not sound a warning in landing configuration. It theorizes you are planning on ground proximity.
Ok avoid Boeing and now avoid Southwest
Nothing wrong with Boeings. They've been flying literally 100's of thousands of hours without incident. 2 fatal crashes and one door plug is nothing compared to the records of some other aircraft that you fly on routinely. So stop buying the media headlines and realize that Airbuses crash just as often.
Yup you should. Lower fares for me 🤑 👍🏻
The people on the ground cain't avoid these incidents .
Southwest Airlines has exclusively operated Boeing 737 aircraft for most of its history, with a very brief exception.
@@1future797lol
Second serious incident regarding pilot error for Southwest Airlines. Off my list of Airlines to fly for now.
Then you won’t get anywhere. Southwest unscathed.
SWA like to fly low and slow. The pilots are looking for booze stores and hookers on the ground.
Gotta love how wonderful DEI is working!
True! A pilot told me they are hiring many very young inexperienced pilots and DEI hires. That is true. The pilot I knew worked for American Airlines.
You’re a bigot.
Give them a pass and a participation trophy. 🤓
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate..
Why hasn't the reporter interviewed the pilots and asked them?
Was there no ILS system (precision approach) on that runway? Especially in adverse weather conditions. Regardless, there should have been one pilot monitoring (and calling out) critical metrics like altitude, airspeed etc.
There should even be an automated system calling out audibles like "minimums" and "altitude". The Controller also was a bit late to the party in telling them to go around.
How they ended up only 150 feet high and 4 miles out is baffling.
Yep. It’s DEI. let’s hire someone that checks every box expect experience.
Except
That’s totally unacceptable. Every pilot knows the three to one rule. At four miles they should have been at 1200 ft. If they were flying a non precision approach, they should have been no lower than the MDA. at a 150’ the crew seriously screwed up.
This time of year the storms can keep a plane flying around and around over the Gulf until the fuel darn near runs out. It happened on a flight I was on. We had an amazing pilot who took us into TPA between clouds in a miraculous landing. Not for the faint at heart.
I hate flying into airports like Tampa or Boston where you’re flying over water until you get to the runway. I’m always afraid we’re going to land in the water.
Me too. I live in Boston . It’s scary landing here.
Or San Diego where you fly right over downtown before landing. 😮
@@tonymurray814 I lived there too for a year when I was in grad school.
lol fly into San Francisco or Oakland
Well, some of us need to swim more. It's a good exercise.
How did these pilots get their license to even fly commercially?....geesh...
DEI
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate.
@@SDuapveer11 I'm just wondering what the thought process is like for people like you? Do you just enjoy repeating things you hear from other people or the news without actually fact checking? Just like a parrot does...
When you say the cause of these incidents were due to DEI hiring, did you actually fact check that or do you just repeat what others around you have said.
Did you know the pilots who operated the A/C during these recent incidents were all of Caucasian descent?
Did you know the majority of pilots in the US are White males?
Do you have any idea how the pilot hiring actually works?
Did you know it takes years of training and time building and extensive background checks involved, to put pilots behind these multi-million dollar equipment?
I work in the airline industry I am very familiar with Southwest operation and I find myself to be more of a republican than a democrat BTW. I don't know you and I'm not tying to be mean, I just encourage you to not be a parrot.
After a 3 question test, in the mail direct from blackrock
@planeshow12 Ok boomer…. How about hire on experience instead of color or who takes it in the butt!
and in June, a SW flight headed into OKC flies very low over Yukon, OK-- what is going on with Southwest
How do you not have video of the flight in question?
1st time news media had volume on the reporting. Thank you.
Hey, those DEI hires are much more important than hiring the best person for the job...
We can't discuss why GE had to stop manufacturing appliances in Mexico or say black in Spanish because everyone has feelings and a failure to communicate.
I hope that you're being sarcastic because they sounded like White guys to me.
@jamesjohnson1050 the point is that race, religion or sexual disposition should be the absolute last thing that comes into play while hiring someone. Especially if that someone could possibly effect the lives of others... BUT that being said the government and corporations are putting those things first which is extremely dangerous to everyone..
@KingFergus Where should blacks ,Hispanics, women ,gays etc be employed ?
@sarahann530 , to people like him, if a minority or a woman makes a mistake, they are automatically a DEI hires, but if a White male makes a mistake, then it was just a mistake.
Altimeter faulty or not set correctly?
To compound the pilot issues, the Southwest fleet is exclusively comprised of defective Boeing planes. Until the industry corrects these issues and stops placing an emphasis on DEI pilots and maintenance staff I won't be flying anywhere!
Could it be hiring people based on diversity, equity, and enclusion? 🤔
Inclusion
It's very rare to have aircraft land on rwy 10 at Tampa. Typically, they land north (RWY 01L or 01R) or south (RWY 19L or 19R).
Funny: The footage is on RWY 1L and a perfectly good landing on a clear day.
Didn't the actual flight divert to FLL (due to weather)? (actually went missed/go-around and flew over the runway at about 2500+ feet vs 1,600' as instructed by atc (ADSB shows 2500 - 2600+ over rwy) )
@@Jeff_Bieren Funny 2: the liveatc footage shows the aircraft inbound to land rwy 10. The video shows it landing rwy 01, so what happened to the liveatc segment or was the video of another SWA flight? Oh, looking at flightaware for this flight, it was trying to land rwy 10 because of the hvy storms in the bay area (I reside east of the bay and can attest to the fierceness of the storm cells Sunday and it indeed diverted to Ft Lauderdale.
I just never want to fly again 😢
Lined up to land on the Bridge
Flying manually in cloudy and rainy weather….
My guess would be a wrong sealevel reading.
Given enough time whatever can go wrong will go wrong. The FAA needs to put something in place so pilots can’t mistake the causeway for the airport again. Maybe that’s not what happened here… time will tell
What is with SOUTHWEST????????.... IM STAYING AWAY.....
Damn straight. I was well. Their pilots are fucked up.
It was hard to pay attention to this story, seeing there was such a beautiful 😍 Moon in front of it.
Those DEI hires are working out accordingly
I hope that you're being sarcastic because they sounded like White guys to me.
@@jamesjohnson1050 how racist to assume they're white just because of their voices.
@woottastic , and how racist of you to assume that they were minorities just because it was pilot error.
Is this the new excuse for white people now? First it was Obama now this. Take responsibility for your own race mess ups.
@jamesjohnson1050 never said I did assume that. Youre the one who plainly stated that they "sound white"
Get it together fast SOUTHWEST!!!!!
WTF?!!!! Where are they getting their pilots from???!!!!
I always liked Southwest……better get their stuff together…..didn’t mention if it was a rain storm…..my sisters plane got diverted to Orlando years ago because of bad weather in Tampa….
I was just on a SWA flight from Miami to Nashville last week. We originally couldn’t land in Nashville because of the weather so we circled the air for roughly 40 minutes. Then we had 2 failed landing attempts where I could see the runway and then we took off again. Pilots said it was an autopilot issue and we eventually had to divert to Louisville to refuel. It felt very chaotic.
So what happened to the pilot on that flight.what was his explanation,for why he was so low at that far away for the landing
Most likely DEI Hires!
I know I will NEVER be flying on any airlines ever again! Too dangerous!
So what will you be flying on?
It is a DEI issue. That was confirmed to me by a pilot that works for American Airlines. Very concerning even for the pilots on other airlines.
EVERYTHING is a DEI issue for you isn’t it. SMH!
@@mrsrichard7835, he probably didn't even watch the whole video. The pilots were White guys.
I think everyone knows damn well the overwhelming majority of pilots across most major and regional US airlines are white men. Period. This DEI narrative is bull. That’s a low key way of spewing a racist under tone and narrative. All near misses and crashes; those pilots were not minorities. So how is this a DEI issue if these pilots are not minorities?
Thank God the ATC knew his job unlike the pilots 😮
I use to work for One Touch Direct near Hoover and Hillsborough Avenue near TIA. Southwest would descend really low.
You forgot to mention the three low altitude errors in Hawaii...
I never fly SWA, even though it serves my local airport.
Same. Love Field is one of the hubs for SWA, and although it’s closer we always just fly American out of DFW.
Cleared for a visual approach and used none of the instrument aids that were available. Mistook the highway for the runway.
I wonder if this was an DEI problem?
No doubt. Didn't know they are on the diversity bandwagon. I won't fly with them anymore. Too many crashes in the past with other air lines due to inexperienced pilots
Supposedly Southwest (ESG corporation like most corporations are) cut required pilot hours in turbine engine planes for new hires from 1,000 hours to 500 hours in February 2023. ESG is another version of DEI and its spread throughout the corporate world is largely the handiwork BlackRock's Larry Fink.
Y'all are so quick to blame DEI. If you listen to the recording, the pilots sound like White guys. So, they must be DEI hires too.
A dark DEI problem
@PS2Sniper , the pilots were White males. I guess that they were DEI hires too.
They get their license out of a cereal box for low budget airlines. Get what you pay for and sometimes less.
actual southwest has a very good flight record and one of the most senior pilot class.
Could this be the result of DEI…? 🤔🤓
Sounds like from the dialog between the tower that maybe they could see on radar that the approach was too low which is why they reminded the pilot what the altimeter setting is because that is usually not provided during the approach, the pilot would already have that information from ATIS. ATC often will first remind the pilot of the altimeter setting when they see a deviation from the assigned altitude before they ask them why are they not at the assigned altitude - just a guess on my part.
DEI hires. Licensing pilots that aren’t passing their training
Who was the pilot!?
Don't panic. The pilot was looking for golf balls to use later.
Let’s here it for DEI hiring
I once applied for one of four (4) positions with the Pinellas County Government in which I was fully qualified. I was not successful. I knew the department head personally and asked him why I was not hired. He told me privately that I was the wrong color.
Omg its scary to fly these days
Could it be DEI at work?
ESG (compliments largely of BlackRock's Larry Fink) - a Stockmarket oriented version of DEI.
Anyone dumb enough to fly these days is taking an unnecessary risk with their lives.
At least they have some balls
One day we all will wake up to breaking news to a major crash. It’s only a matter of time. These close calls are too many.
3 times in a short time there is a problem they better get a handle on it.
They act like this is the first time. This happens a lot. More then reported
This happens every day in San Diego CA. on a normal approach
In San Diego, you basically skirt the edge of the tallest buildings downtown.
@@drewwho4512 And less than 200 ft. above I-5
The truth 😂
Has anyone checked the possibility of D.E.I. hiring playing a role? There has been a pilot shortage in the industry.
Yes: The Federal Aviation Administration is actively recruiting workers who suffer “severe intellectual” disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website.
You don’t even know what DEI means.
There's likely pressures from the Feds to keep that under the rug. When we start seeing planes fly into mountains again like 20-30 years ago then they might take a second look.
Absolutely!
If they got rid of the 1500 hour rule they would have more pilots. That DEI stuff is a frigging joke
Southwest is having a lot of close calls. Could it be the DEI hires?
More garbage of course. Study your aviation history and don’t be stupid
To bad the old school military trained pilots have retired or passed on. The sully sullenbergers. Why not hired the pilots back who refused the jib jab?
Was anybody looking out the window?
You can bet I would have been.
The blinds were down.
Another case of HR checking off the diversity box.
Did you notice these pilots were white males?
00:32 what flights ?
It AINT 🐎 horse shoes it flying. These are trained pilots & SWA has the safest flying record in the UNITED STATES !
Young inexperienced pilots ., all computer training
Pilots at Southwest must be getting their licenses out of the damn Cracker Jack Box.😮
Why was the flight diverted? Why not a go around?
Its alright, the pilot thought he was landing at John Wayne. 😂
Um, hire qualified pilots?
Was it a dark DEI pilot?
The sorority girl is really doing a great job of reporting on near disaster.
We're not going to get the truth.
Who are the pilots and copilots???
Come on! We all know how they got there and it is pilot error! Actually it’s company error and the people they are hiring who are not qualified to be in that flight deck! It’s DEI hiring at its best!
But what happened? The retired pilot says it must've been pilot error. Does he know what happened? Did they forget to adjust their altimeter for Tampa?
Mind boggling. What was the visibility like? If it was poor, what was going on with the glideslope on the ILS ??? And if things don't look right i.e. distance from runway to altitude, aren't they monitoring their instruments in case?? Complacency and putting all your faith in the automation.
Tampa Bay Area "bad weather". It's a common occurrence. Reminds me of the bad weather that occurred the morning of the 1980 Sunshine Skyway Bridge disaster.
Don’t ever call Tampa “Bay Area” ever again.
@@Dnttrip304 I lived in "Penniless" County for 25 years before finally getting out of Florida, and the Media always referred to that region as the "Bay Area". Oh, "Tampa Bay" is a body of water with a lot of fish and sea life contained therein. I cringe when I hear the sports Media "up north" saying that the Rays or the Buccaneers "are playing in Tampa Bay"..... If they did they might drown. Oh BTW, I always loved Tampa! Cheers!
Didn't this happen in Hawaii too a couple months ago? I believe going to Kauai but rerouted to Honolulu.
Firm action emplyee
Not everything is DEI
DEI+737MAX=Lawn dart
Greedy Corporate boing white executives + Boing Max = Lawn dart!!
Other people get their close calls on the news but holy crap it I capture something that's big news it goes unseen , my close call video capture of airliners crossing eachother at 38,000 feet!!!!! But no one cares about what I got on video until it hits the ground then people start caring , SAD VERY SAD!!!!!!!
You do know about RVSM right?
Doesn't sound like it
I have pictures of the underside of a bridge that has cracked and crumbling concrete due to a lack of maintenance (I40 in TN-Harriman exit). I called to report the horrific condition of this bridge to TDOT about a month ago. It has not been touched. Thousands of cars and tractor trailers will full payloads travel across this bridge every day. No one cares until it comes crashing down and lives are lost. They'll claim the bridge has been maintained. We pay plenty of tax in TN, but still there is no excuse for this. People need to do their damn jobs!
D.E.I. Thanks democrats
Did you watch the whole video? The pilots were White guys. Nice try.
Why I only fly Delta haven’t had any issues even when I flew this past week Thursday and Monday morning
People complaining about a plane flying too low close to an airport is silly. How else would it land. And there are always roads and highways nearby
No doubt Pilots and co-pilots are hire on a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion priority basis, with skill and experience a secondary consideration.
I used to stand up on the roof top parking watching planes come in!!
With pilots like this, you may want to discontinue that practice. Unless you want them to hit you as they buzz the garage. LOL
@@davidgagnon2849 BAHAHAHA 🤣
@@davidgagnon2849 I know right? 😂
Is this a southwest problem or should we be worried about other airlines???😮
True, delta has a lot of issues as well.