Interview with Stephen Wolinsky from Science and Nonduality Anthology Vol.2

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @prianthagovender649
    @prianthagovender649 2 года назад +11

    Wolinski, guru to the modern world, perfectly explaining ancient philosophy. I bow down to your ability to explain a very simple yet perplexing concept!

  • @kabasakalis
    @kabasakalis 7 лет назад +66

    Wolinski offers the most advanced and on point explanation of non duality you can find in the youtube jungle of nonsense pseudo spirituality. I like how he references Zen, Madyamika Buddhism and contemporarary science to emphasize his points. The man has done some serious homework obviously. Top notch.

    • @lumasso7638
      @lumasso7638 7 лет назад +8

      He's the founder of Quantum Psychology

    • @ernestweber5207
      @ernestweber5207 5 лет назад +10

      He is very articulate and to the point.
      Are you familiar with Nisargadatta? As Wolinsky said, he is a disciple. He has a very sound basis in from that.
      From my exposure to Nisargadatta's (he who dwells in the natural condition) talks, it is some of the most hard core, to the point expressions of the natural condition via words that I have encountered in regards to self-realization and actuality. It is for those who are ripe enough to take a simple, basic teaching to the core itself. It is just a matter of falling from the tree, then. Of course, one's mileage may vary.
      I don't say that flippantly and the Dzogchen Master Longechenpa was another luminary along those lines in the Dharma tradition on the Buddhist, Tantra, Vajrayana side.

    • @Flywithparker
      @Flywithparker 3 года назад

      My lover

    • @giannibazzoni5591
      @giannibazzoni5591 2 года назад +1

      He's a great one and I couldn't thank him enough for recognizing That which isn't.
      However, never use superlatives! There's another great being dwelling in the Natural State, living in Europe. One I appreciate the most.

    • @nadadenadax4903
      @nadadenadax4903 Год назад

      @@giannibazzoni5591 and who is that?

  • @williamcallahan5218
    @williamcallahan5218 2 года назад +12

    I have been listening to SW for years now and I can't imagine why he isn't as big or bigger than Adyashanti, or Mooji or who ever else. Brilliant.

    • @nadadenadax4903
      @nadadenadax4903 Год назад +5

      Stephen would say, Because people don't want liberation. They wouldn't be there to appreciate it.

    • @deepdive888
      @deepdive888 9 месяцев назад +1

      Of course. People seek comfort, not truth.

    • @terefefeyssa877
      @terefefeyssa877 9 месяцев назад

      ​@deepdive888 : I think, my uncle becomes upset if He reads you comment may ask where you live so that He sees you face to face. My uncle is very dangerous guy.

  • @cofiking23
    @cofiking23 3 года назад +8

    I mean.... I have watched and read dozens, maybe hundreds of spiritual teachers, and I have to say this man is the only one I completely resonate with. He is my true guru and I am thankful for Him. Everything he says is like pure gold.

  • @jazzsnare
    @jazzsnare 2 года назад +9

    Recently discovered Wolinsky. Not sure why comments are always turned off on his videos, but this one is open. Highly respect this man, a true seeker and philosopher. I find that listening/reading Niz's books gives pleasure and perhaps the illusion of getting closer to understanding, but Wolinsky's commentaries take it much, much further than that. My problem with all this is that we really don't want to give up the body-mind; we love it. We like to think we are not the body-mind because we like that in principle. Let me ask, who thinks they will ever, ever have no preference of a massage on the beach to being dragged by one's feet from the back of a jeep, dragged in the road. If one is not the body, then there would be no preference. It is one thing to state stuff, but when the rubber hits the road, if one thinks about the actual reality of the body, pleasure and pain, it is enough to make one realize this will never happen. Who thinks they will ever reach that non-preference? I have studied this for decades and a few weeks ago I could not remove a splinter from my hand with a razor blade because it was too painful. Win a million dollars versus lose a million; who can say they will truly be nonchalant about that? And, if something took the trouble to put us in body-minds, then why would it be the case that we would deny this and identify with pure awareness? I detest the stupid Indian argument that pots are really just clay; they are not, anymore than the Bible is really just ink and paper, or the Mona Lisa is just paint, or Beethoven's 5th is just frequencies. No, that is reductive to the point of idiocy. The human body has a trillion cells, and to say that humans are mostly water and so much of this and that is plain stupid. Isn't that what we are doing with our human form in these teachings?

    • @XX-pe8xh
      @XX-pe8xh Год назад

      Hi. I enjoyed reading your comment. One could say that awareness remains the same if the bodymind is being massaged or being dragged behind a car. That awareness is quite fascinating, how stable it is... how consistent it is in a world constantly changing.

    • @jazzsnare
      @jazzsnare Год назад

      @@XX-pe8xh On an scale 1 - 10, how confident are you that you would be able to lay access to that when in significant pain or abject fear?

    • @XX-pe8xh
      @XX-pe8xh Год назад

      @@jazzsnare 5

    • @jazzsnare
      @jazzsnare Год назад +1

      @@XX-pe8xh Won't ask how you decided that, but I will tell you that when in pain your mind will attach immediately to that. The purported awareness will not be reachable in that state. Try it. Try some very hot water in the bath. See how helpful the awareness is under those circumstances. Armchair advaitins don't cut the mustard.

    • @XX-pe8xh
      @XX-pe8xh Год назад

      @@jazzsnare i have been relentlessly questioning myself for the past 8 months if the bliss I experience via meditation is nothing actual and would crumble in the experience of pain or discomfort. Recently, in the past 6 weeks, ive been experimenting with maintaining a stabilized awareness as best as I possibly can during experiences of pain and discomfort. I was able to retain awareness however it was extremely challenging. I also aclnowledge that the situations of pain amd discomfort were not extreme (e.g. being dragged behind a car) they also were not mild. This was my personal exploration into the nature of my personal experience of existential energy we label reality. I did have one interesting insight in that sometimes when I shifted away from bodily identification, whilst raining present and aware of the bodymind, I noticed that the pain sometimes became an extreme pleasure, and this energy seemed to move between pain and pleasure. I only ever experienced that when I shifted into non-judgemental awareness in full presence and acceptance of what my bodymind was experiencing.
      For the sake of our conversation, I would like to state this was a personal experiment. I dont recommend others do it.

  • @giannibazzoni5591
    @giannibazzoni5591 2 года назад +4

    A true non-teaching teacher. Thanks a lot!

  • @summondadrummin2868
    @summondadrummin2868 8 лет назад +19

    What an amazing intellectual approach to non duality! He and I may not really exist but I do appreciate the efforts of this human!

    • @lumasso7638
      @lumasso7638 7 лет назад +2

      He's the founder of Quantum Psychology

  • @thenewwaydevil
    @thenewwaydevil 3 года назад +5

    this guy is the real deal. his teachings, the truth.

  • @jp-jb1bw
    @jp-jb1bw 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fine explanation of a complex subject. Thank you Mahoday Wolinsky!

  • @patrickbinford590
    @patrickbinford590 2 года назад +4

    Love the way Stephen describes the indescribable. He does a GREAT job, and THAT is not nothing.
    Did that not sound like a book blurb. But actually I meant every word.

    • @Shiva99333
      @Shiva99333 6 месяцев назад

      ... . and THAT is not nothing. AND the beauty is it comes out of nothing.

  • @mlinegar
    @mlinegar 10 лет назад +10

    So wonderfully beautiful, direct and crystal clear. Bloody great stuff. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • @amerewitness4272
    @amerewitness4272 4 года назад +1

    Amazing, that each comment here so fittingly throws abundant light on the commentator, and can be a mirror for all of us! 🙏

  • @themultiverseiscallingbvig4092
    @themultiverseiscallingbvig4092 8 лет назад +5

    one has to be dwelling on a similar band wave to grasp the message.Human existence is a learning process or experience.I am grateful for hearing and understanding the point Mr Wolinsky is explaining.

  • @HigherPlanes
    @HigherPlanes 3 года назад +6

    When words were invented, they quickly replaced reality.

  • @NadjaLind
    @NadjaLind 8 лет назад +7

    thank you Stephen for your books

  • @ngatihine6072
    @ngatihine6072 5 лет назад +2

    I like listening to him especially his experiences with nisargadatta. Thanks for this. I love the way the heart opens in reference to knowing nothing how nisargadatta said that after going to his guru.

  • @nolliemccain6642
    @nolliemccain6642 5 лет назад +6

    Oh my gosh....Stephen has me laughing at myself...every word indescribable ❤️🙏

  • @Neti-Netti
    @Neti-Netti 2 месяца назад

    The ability to tell and craft stories picking up things from exotic or scientific perspectives and all of a sudden finding you where you were already at first

  • @Hope-ic8db
    @Hope-ic8db 5 лет назад +2

    Directly to the point. I liked how he explained life, existence etc, it makes sense. But in the end . I don't know is the best thing to be said. BUT we do want to know, this is the journey toward him, GOD.

    • @marioperasovic7941
      @marioperasovic7941 Год назад

      God is in the Conciousness only. The 'I am' is the only God there is; and yet you are prior to the I Am, so 'who' wants to know 'what'?

  • @katnip198
    @katnip198 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Stephen.

  • @innapashina7077
    @innapashina7077 5 лет назад +3

    I cling to Stephen's explanation cause it's light and simple. Nisargadatta Maharaj is a bit intense but so penetrating... Both of them are very helpful is understanding of nonunderstandable..
    Thank you. Does anyone know why Stephen Wolinsky hasn't been updating his website after 2018?

    • @foolishwatcher
      @foolishwatcher 3 года назад +1

      As he said in the introduction to his final youtube on his channel: "the trajectory ends here as there is no more to say or to point to as words and their meanings dissolve and evaporate."

    • @nadadenadax4903
      @nadadenadax4903 Год назад

      There is a RUclips 2020 the great without

  • @thenewwaydevil
    @thenewwaydevil 4 года назад

    Very slept on discussion. Bravo

  • @ilovewisdom6352
    @ilovewisdom6352 8 лет назад +7

    "You know shit" the kind of advice that I love

  • @kwixotic
    @kwixotic 10 лет назад +4

    He has a first rate understanding of duality/nonduality and related issues which I've also observed in his DVD's(i.e., "Nirvana Means Extinction", "Consciousness and Beyond", etc.). However, he has something of a tendency to over-verbalize and stumble about the issues he investigates/explains and so unless one pays close enough attention, he may lose out on what's being said.

    • @mseansymonds
      @mseansymonds 6 лет назад +1

      ...AND, if you really, really, really pay even more closer attention, you will see clearly what he is truly saying - which is, there is nothing to lose out on.

  • @stephenaustin5525
    @stephenaustin5525 4 года назад +1

    Intellect can not get enlightened. It has to surrender. Good luck.

  • @nickilovesdogs8137
    @nickilovesdogs8137 6 лет назад +2

    The biggest mistake people make is to Want enlightenment. UG Krishnamurti for example Wanted enlightenment so badly that he would risk his life for it. Why is that? Where does that urge for enlightenment come from? If people really dug deeper into that question and into themselves they would eventually find the cause of it. And the cause of that is the Ego, the Me, the I. "I want that rollercoaster ride", "I want that orgasm", "I want this experience", "you have that experience I want it, too". Who is doing all of this? The Ego. Why do people covet and crave? Why do they want to be gurus? Because they have PTSD from childhood of not having been felt and loved? Now they act it out wanting and craving and becoming? I believe that when someone has truly received the mother love as infants then they do not grow up to be craving and wanting. I feel deep compassion for all beings who were not and are not loved the way they should be loved by their mothers. (Myself included). Later on we all act things out differently or in rare occasions don't act it out or don't act it out anymore. But the pain still is there and it's not going anywhere. That pain is intolerable and that is why people take drugs and or do all kinds of things to get rid of the pain. But the pain will never go away no matter what we do. The only way to live is to allow that what is even if it is painful and stays like that indefinitely. That is ground zero and that is humbleness. And then out of humbleness and introspection we can make better choices to prevent others from having to go through this trauma. We can not bring another being into this world. Or we can give that being (animal or human) everything he or she needs to live well that means unconditional, real and whole love with hugging and much (non sexual!) physical gentle touch.

    • @glenemma1
      @glenemma1 5 лет назад

      Beautifully said, Nicki....many insights in your comment. Thanks.

  • @MajorCulturalDivide
    @MajorCulturalDivide 7 лет назад +9

    I always thought nisargadatta was talking about conception when he said that fluids come together.

    • @sendilcoumar4836
      @sendilcoumar4836 4 года назад +2

      I thought so too, during the time of conceive, two fluids meet together

    • @vedremo9240
      @vedremo9240 4 года назад

      Yes i was talking about conception, the context was formless parkriti prior to birth

    • @EZ-bx9pc
      @EZ-bx9pc 3 года назад

      @@ganazby you’re clueless, whether at conception or at birth both require fluids to combine and hence the I appears. Plus he studied directly from nisargadatta. Keep your uninformed opinion to your self.

    • @EZ-bx9pc
      @EZ-bx9pc 3 года назад

      The distinction between the two events is irrelevant.

  • @mobiusdesigns
    @mobiusdesigns 4 года назад +2

    I find it hard to integrate this Into day to day life. In my experience the realizations this man is talking about have never come from understanding “it’s all one” “it’s all nothing “ or whatever. These concepts have gotten in the way like all other concepts. Because of this I think it is important to stress the centrality of lived experience and not knowing already. If we come into experience with preconceiveds, we rob ourselves of the chance of finding out for ourselves and are left with a concept offered by another which is not true knowledge but an obstacle to true knowledge. True knowledge I see as not exclusive but inclusive of what is. Of felt sense, body, mind. Beyond body mind is doffeeent than “not body mind”. Beyond implies inclusivity, “not” implies something that “is not” body mind, and requires the negation of body mind for realization which in itself is a dualistic framework. Thus transcendence must have and element of inclusion or else it form and ontological point in which exclusion creates duality, and duality creates another concept. The way through is feeling, this is what I think. These philosophies can be used for bypassing very easily just as metaphysics in university can be. I think what’s important is -what works and makes peoples lives better? If enlightenment doesn’t do that, maybe we shouldn’t be Persuing it. If there is not value judgement passed in the assertion of the posssinikty of some enlightenment then there is no reason to be taking about it or sharing it. It’s important that we don’t fool ourselves and go into thinking nothing matters because nothing exists. It’s important that each person finds out for themselves, and has the courage to forgo conclusions beliefs and concepts , even concepts of no concepts to actually enquire into their own experience. Otherwise it’s self abandonment and regression into “you know I don’t”. “Please tell me what to do “ on a very subtle and self deceptive level. So what to do? Do non doing. Do feeling. Do being. Or don’t do. Be. Just words, felt inportant to write this after driving while listening to this and feeling very out of body and freaked out. It’s important to prevent unnecessary car accidents

  • @jarodlenold538
    @jarodlenold538 2 месяца назад +1

    He looks like Raiden from Mortal Kombat

  • @K.P.777
    @K.P.777 7 лет назад +2

    Excellent!

  • @jp-jb1bw
    @jp-jb1bw 11 месяцев назад

    Prior to Consciousness, is the Absolute- in congruence with rigveda 10.129

  • @cedarraine7829
    @cedarraine7829 5 лет назад +1

    Gratitude

  • @heartexplained
    @heartexplained 3 года назад +1

    Love this even emptiness needs something to be empty , love the paradox world 🤌🏻🤌🏻

  • @carlavela7106
    @carlavela7106 7 лет назад +2

    Gracias ♡♡♡

  • @cerbere54
    @cerbere54 7 месяцев назад

    Stephen wolinsky has written that the I Am has two levels : non-verbal + verbal. Could someone who has studied Wolinsky please tell me if both the above levels are in time - space / space - time because if so both levels represent, therefore, the mind - body complex? Also, the I - sense and I - thought are two things???? Whatever light or illumination you provide me will be deeply appreciated.

    • @kylecarr939
      @kylecarr939 7 месяцев назад +2

      The verbal I am is in direct reference to body/mind but nonverbal I am is more experiential like the sense of being/presence. But even the beingness/presence/nonverbal I am has to also be seen as an identity that you do not want to nest in. He has referenced Zen: “you do not want to nest in any state”. Putting significance on any state will keep you from realizing the Absolute.
      Any experience at all is in time and space and means there is an I there as an observer, witness, knower, feeler, etc.
      The Absolute is before any recognition of anything. There is nothing that can be said there. Nothing that can be pointed out. It is the nothing prior to the word nothing. Words and thoughts bring one into the game and lead one on a hunt for things that don’t exist other than in the mind.

    • @cerbere54
      @cerbere54 7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much HONESTLY.

    • @nadadenadax4903
      @nadadenadax4903 14 дней назад +1

      The verbal I am is when you say or think "I am..." (example, I am worthless, ugly etc.)
      the non verbal I am is not expressable in words, but it is like an unconscious position, like a diffuse dark spot. When you stay in that spot, it reveals itself as a belief or assumption or emotion you held about yourself and/or the world. You look at it and it dissolves.
      Therefore, stay in the consciousness, until it dissolves. The Consciousness being the conscious and unconscious. So, from a psychological point of view, we could say, that the verbal I am is conscious and the non verbal I am is unconscious. You have to make the unconscious conscious. And the whole space of consciousness really simply dissolves.
      And yes, the consciousness is time bound and it is the body mind. The body interacts with its own states through self consciousness. The believes, emotions and positions in consciousness are in the body. However, they are not personal. So to believe that you feel insecure, because your mommy did xy, is false. There is no psychological cause and effect.

    • @cerbere54
      @cerbere54 14 дней назад +1

      Thank you so much for your reply - sincerely. Best wishes to you and yours for your assistance. 🙏👏👏👏

  • @brawlpups3517
    @brawlpups3517 2 года назад

    The absurd is best teacher.

  • @mutttaguy1496
    @mutttaguy1496 4 года назад

    Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would speak about "Being" or "The Absolute" as: "That place from which speech returns"...... Meaning that there are no opposites by which it is possible to assess, judge or label neither the experience or the experiencer because they are one and the same.
    There is no observer or object to be observed and no language capable of capturing it.
    He called it the Transcendent and the process, Transcendental Meditation.
    Everything up to the point of attaining Transcendental Consciousness is simply, "Being" becoming.
    I Am That - Thou Art That - All This Is That - That Is All There Is

  • @wulfmountainpath3719
    @wulfmountainpath3719 2 года назад

    The dreamer abides in jnana, aware of dreams passing on screen (mental apparatus). Egoless of all things is felt, play is lost in time (which also never existed ;) ) Steven knows, is one e master and slash Self.

  • @pedrogonzales9202
    @pedrogonzales9202 5 лет назад

    How do we meet this day to day?

  • @DaiBei
    @DaiBei 2 года назад +1

    His eyes show he is awake.

    • @jarodlenold538
      @jarodlenold538 2 месяца назад

      Yes, otherwize they would be closed.

  • @vedasupdated5434
    @vedasupdated5434 7 лет назад

    There are Laws of The Creation, and those laws you can not change with Mental Speculation.
    OM

  • @jrjohannes1
    @jrjohannes1 8 лет назад +1

    What is Post-Deconstructionism but a word.
    There couldn't have been any tools, methods or scientists who observed anything to come up with this interpretation, right? And he's not in this video you're not watching. There is no video or you, right!?!

  • @ClarityJustin
    @ClarityJustin 5 лет назад

    What the name of the guru mentioned at? 1:59

  • @rhamacoulter8686
    @rhamacoulter8686 2 года назад

    Lol, I’m just laughing. This is amazing

  • @TomLangley13
    @TomLangley13 8 лет назад +2

    Brilliant!

  • @999NRG
    @999NRG 2 года назад

    Bhagwat geeta is at LEAST 10,000 YEARS OLD

  • @stephenaustin5525
    @stephenaustin5525 4 года назад +1

    The first basic premise we start from is God and I as separates from each other. There is no God and I. Only God exists. This solves the riddle of existence. The Hindus say the world does not exist..........only God exists. That ought to take care of that.

  • @tadhghayden8440
    @tadhghayden8440 3 года назад

    Are you willing...to Surrender yourself!!.....so utterly......Who dares ..... Annihilation!.....to think that this chair...led to here....what kind of chair is this....it's an upright two legged form...tasting formlessness

  • @riverbottomradio3025
    @riverbottomradio3025 6 месяцев назад

    "I don't know shit." Accurate.

  • @robertkennedy2675
    @robertkennedy2675 3 года назад

    Thanks for Nothing ! Yes You Alpear to Be That!

  • @carolpedigree609
    @carolpedigree609 9 лет назад +3

    How is it that Nisargadatta, who was totally dis-identified from his body smoked?

    • @anneholloman8517
      @anneholloman8517 8 лет назад +4

      +Carol Pedigree I don't think it mattered to him

    • @MajorCulturalDivide
      @MajorCulturalDivide 7 лет назад +5

      You answered your own question.

    • @dougerhard2128
      @dougerhard2128 6 лет назад +3

      the answer is in your question:
      "his body smoked"

    • @jameelisaac1265
      @jameelisaac1265 6 лет назад +2

      @@anneholloman8517 exactly cause it wasn't him anyway.

    • @ganazby
      @ganazby 4 года назад

      Who cares?

  • @999NRG
    @999NRG 2 года назад

    🕉🙏

  • @johnblake2483
    @johnblake2483 7 лет назад +2

    I'll take a potato chip and eat it.

  • @jrjohannes1
    @jrjohannes1 8 лет назад +3

    If he believed what he's saying, he wouldn't give talks.

    • @scienceandnonduality
      @scienceandnonduality  8 лет назад +14

      +Jason Johannes :-)
      Stephen actually does NOT give talks... we had to "force him" as friends to have this interview done and to open SAND in 2009 (only talk he did in the past 15 years)... :-)

    • @jrjohannes1
      @jrjohannes1 8 лет назад +2

      +scienceandnonduality The fundamental problem seems to still be the duality of Mind vs Matter, Materialism vs Idealism etc.
      They are both interpretations of this Apparent Existence of Experience.
      People aren't looking for an Absolute meaning or interpretation of Life, they are seeking an Experience.
      When I ponder the Universe, it isn't even a question I have, it's a feeling which cannot be put into words.

    • @jrjohannes1
      @jrjohannes1 8 лет назад +3

      +scienceandnonduality Scientists tend to jump onto the "tennis court of Life" and interrupt the game! They have a tendency to strip away the sense of wonder people have.
      On the opposite end are the New Age Pixie Dust individuals. They refuse a "solid" model...interpreting everything as "misty smoke and mirrors."
      No matter what we do, we cannot get inside of the fabric...inside ourselves! It may be a "groundless-ground"...a "nothing" but what an amazing nothing IT IS! And somehow, we can take a stand upon that fertile emptiness and give meaning, interpret.
      WOW!

    • @jrjohannes1
      @jrjohannes1 8 лет назад +2

      scienceandnonduality I respect his intelligence and mastery of this subject within the context of neuroscience. I appreciate that he shared. :)

    • @lumasso7638
      @lumasso7638 7 лет назад +3

      Jason shut up and know nothing

  • @jingham2387
    @jingham2387 5 лет назад

    OMG what's happened to your face?

    • @jingham2387
      @jingham2387 4 года назад

      So you have been following my work.....

  • @dare-er7sw
    @dare-er7sw 6 лет назад +1

    He looks weird

  • @atgunchev
    @atgunchev 7 лет назад +1

    He said a lot of things for a guy who doesn't know anything.

  • @kp34325
    @kp34325 5 лет назад +1

    While your contemplating the existential. Remember to spend some coin on books, etc. at the website's.